If /g/ could design their own DE, how would it be? Would you

>>59877247
botnets are for bakas

>>59877261
good thing macOS doesn't have that problem

>>59877230
Full featured modular, so you can go minimalist if you want.
More importantly, fucking sane defaults.

>>59877247
I'll confess I like MacOS design, but I would like it more if it were more customizable and didn't limit the user too much.

>>59877247
That was kinda vague, what's the perfect DE? Do you have any pictures?

>>59877275
macOS is the botnet u baka

>>59877297
pic related baka
>>59877298
baka baka baka

>>59877309
baka

>>59877309
But that's MacOS?

>>59877327
i know your trying to make a joke but your still dumb

>>59877327
No, that's pedOS.

>>59877346
is there a way to change the OS name in about this mac on Sierra?

>>59877343
The only joke is the picture you posted, stop shilling your gay operating system and stop sharing screenshots of your desktop, no one cares about you, stop embarrassing yourself pedophile.

>>59877230
>lightweight, full featured
What makes you think these can't co-exist? There was nothing that was lacking in the features of Workbench, especially if you threw MUI on top of it.

>Minimalist look or shiny eye candy?
Minimalist by design, but can have layers on top of it. Also, genuine minimalism, not the bullshit minimalism where it uses 3GB of RAM to render nothing.

>>59877247
>thread derailed by a pedophile macshitter in the first post
We need to redirect mac posters to /fa/.
They don't seem to do anything in /g/ other than posting their desktops, starting flame wars and derailing everything.
I have yet to see any actual technology discussion involving MacOS.

>>59877230
if i was designing my own DE i would make it so everything that I would want would be in the right place for me and me only. theres no reason to take into account the opinions of others. if it works for me, that's all i give a damn about.

>>59877409
They can co-exist, of course. But can also be exclusive.

if ur a baka then don't reply to me

>>59877286
So GNOME 3 with sane configs by default then?

I would change the menus on GNOME 3 to make it more desktop oriented instead of touch friendly. ( like the unnecessarily big fucking buttons on the main application menu ) And would make it so the best plugins come installed by default and are more acessible from the menu.
Would also remove the GTK features that are exclusive to GNOME, for compatibility sake.

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>>59877230
It would look like this basically, but maybe with a bit larger icons, like 32x32, dual state like on Amiga, and the options and whatnot would be like in SGI's 4DWM.

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>tfw not autistic enough to rice up comfy pseudo-dot matrix themes for android and desktom

>>59877411
she's not a pedo?

>>59877540
GNOME 3 is far too fat and heavy for what it does.

>>59877589
Having a distinctly pixel-based (for lack of a better word) rather than image-based (you know what I mean) would aid in scaling as well.

Also, one of the design decisions I like about nearly all UIs until mid-00s is that all fonts as part of the menus and the interface are the same bitmap system font.

Not quite present in your image, but my eyes appreciate the uniformity.

vista and ios 6 mashup of thick textured logos, icons and bold fonts.

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>>59877230
>Would you follow a lightweight, full featured or a modular approach?
lightweight from the floor up with killer modular features
>Newbie friendly and limiting or hard to master but powerful?
fuck noobs power users only
>Minimalist look or shiny eye candy?
retro-minimalist
How customizable would it be?
to the maxtor

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>>59877659
You should have a look at this too, by the same artist. I have a load of other stuff to show you too.

>>59877589
You know what would be a good design decision, at least for UI developers for software? An intended render size. So that a person on a 1024x600 netbook and someone on a 4K screen has the same "size" UI.

Obviously the user can break this, if their display allows it, but it would help with making sure all programs behave a certain way.

I wonder if a DE where the workspace is bigger than the screen would work. So, moving your mouse to the right moves the whole workspace to the left, etc. You just need to adjust your muscle memory and/or DPI so you can still point at things.

Aside from that, Openbox already does everything I could want.

>>59877230
>designed around weyland
>lightweight and minimalist
>easily customizable themes and a lightweight clickable ( click on the desktop bg ) menu, like openbox
>window tiling and keyboard shortcuts like i3
>lightweight and customizable panel like tint2 but with more options features
>focus on responsiveness and stability

>>59877796
I honestly think computer monitors should have stayed with 4:3 as a standard, and never have exceeded around 1600x1200 or so. I hate 4K monitors since it spooks me when I can't see the pixels.

>>59877823
literally just openbox and tint2

>>59877811
Just set your resolution bigger than your monitor

>>59877853
Go to bed dad

>>59877878
I'm likely younger than you though.

>>59877898
Go to bed son

>>59877898
your likely dumber to

>>59877867
No wayland support.
Openbox has no window tiling.
Tint2 is kinda outdated and lacks a lot of features.
Openbox is also outdated and lacking in features.
Other than that, yes.

>>59877926
>lacking features
Which?

And you said minimalist, anyway

>>59877853
I agree. I have vision problems and I prefer crisp pixelated text over smooth high-res blurred garbage

>>59877853
The issue with high-resolution computer screens is that you then have to spend time worrying about making sure that things render and scale, which is yet another hassle on top of an already massive pile.

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>>59877230
make it cute
nothing else matters

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>>59877972
>shitty widescreen resolution with flat design
>cute

>>59878005
dumb fake nostalgia poster

>>59878005
A pixel DE would cost quite a hefty sum. For one thing you need a competent pixel artist. Those are a dying breed in the west.

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>>59878005
Also, we gotta have custom icons for individual files, like AmigaOS and at least earlier versions of Windows had. Windows solved this by having a config file in every directory containing this type of files, Amiga had an .info-file for every customizes file or whatnot.
>>59878015
It's comfy.

>>59878047
it's ugly

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>>59878042
I guess this is why there are no extensive pixelart icon sets for modern DEs. Well, that and the fact that modern DEs typically can't render them properly since you can't always set all icons to be a particular size, it assumes they're vector-based and scales them.

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>>59878005
>>59878047

Would you follow a lightweight, full featured or a modular approach?
>modular, but lightweight out of the box

Newbie friendly and limiting or hard to master but powerful?
>both

Minimalist look or shiny eye candy?
>minimalist

How customizable would it be?
>very


i will call it XFCE

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2 docks/panels like in nextstep/WindowMaker, just more modern in appearance

>>59878085
>mismatched osxclone icons
>low contrast
>fucked up window boarders
what are you doing?

>>59877940
It doesn't have to be THAT minimalistic, though.
Other than the ones I mentioned:
The other features I would add to openbox are almost all cosmetic ( I like making themes and there are a few features i like to have in openbox, among them are: transparency, blurring, different border styles and improvements to how gradients work ).
Tint2 needs a better smart hiding feature and window stacking ( plugin support would be really nice ) and other than that, cosmetic options like: blurring, gradients, textures, etc. would be nice.

The trick, though, would be to develop all those programs to be parts of the same DE, making it easier to make interaction between them and other stuff.

>>59878209

>what is a sketch/mockup?

>>59878068
>it assumes they're vector-based and scales them.
Well fuck. Then it's time to make a DE that doesn't do that shit and is purely based on the pixel art movement.
But freetards being freetards wouldn't even be able to afford hiring any of the cheaper asians that do pixel art.

>>59878079
XFCE is not hard to master and its not minimalistic.
XFCE its far from perfect, too.

>>59878259
The problem with modern UIs isn't just down to the art (which is bad, both in style and actual quality), so you'll go from skeuomorphic to metaphorical. A good example is that the icon for the web browser is a globe, and the icon for the e-mail client is an envelope. If we assume mail = mail, does globe = globe? Nope.

>>59878269
XFCE isn't even lightweight anymore. It's about as heavy as the GNOME 2 derivative (ironic really), and not much lighter than an adjusted GNOME 3 or KDE 5.

>>59878391
Yes, XFCE have only customizability and modularity as its strong points nowadays.

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>>59877914
>>>59877898
>your likely dumber to
50%... 4 words.. Dios mio man
Lolilol

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This is what I'd do

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>>59878634
Nahhh.

>>59878634
Numlock is used all the time, you're thinking of scroll lock

>>59878634
We're talking about GUIs here anon, not the kind of shit we used to yell at our parents for installing.

>>59877230
Windows 95/98 had the best GUI

fight me

>>59878672
My OS wants the bonzibuddy audience

it's gonna be popular as fuack

>>59877230
>If /g/ could design their own DE, how would it be?

Have it so someone can go from doing nothing to doing something. Then do nothing else.

No. No widgets.

No. No extensions.

No. No animations.

>>59878707
What if I want animations and my computer to play lewd_anime_girl_moans.wav every time I click something?

>>59878674
You never used anything older than XP or else you wouldn't be saying retarded shit like that.
I'd rather kill myself with a spoon than go back to using anything older than XP.

>>59878735
We're talking about UI not system stability

>>59878788
I'm not talking about stability either, my dude.
The UI on windows advanced by leaps on every major version.
Windows 95/98 had fucking horrible UIs by today's standard.

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>>59878832
win9x:
>click start
>all my favorite programs are in a tidy list

win10:
>click gay winlogo
>fuckhueg advertising tiles

>>59877286
mate that's kde

Minimal, simplistic, snappy and well-designed by Material guidelines.

>>59877230
Design wise: Tbh something between BeOS and OS 8 or 9. Alternatively Okay with windows 2K\XP Classic aesthetics. Graphics are beautifully crisp and look great at any resolution. The biggest issue that'd suck is High-DPI but really nobody seems to have figured that out yet.

but not just DE the whole OS should adhere to this standard, then you get shit like linux which looks like dog shit and has programs that never look the same.

Feature wise: Widgets like BeOS Replicators are cool. Also the snap feature, needs to happen, maybe something like snap and padding for muh autistic screenfetch generals (also i kinda unironically enjoy that look, but configuring it blows on the ones that support it).

Also everything can be customized from Control Panels, I'd prefer it to be close to Windows XP where the Control Panel was normie friendly but you could go to classic mode when you realized it sucks.

Would also have pretty much most of the windowing functions from BeOS: Windows snapping to each other, tabbed windows, that thing where you have an icon of a folder on the window and you can drop that to where ever to copy it...

desu i effectively want a more mac-ish BeOS\Haiku with pixel art (although i can see why Haiku went with vector)
>tfw HaikuOS isn't even remotely close to being noticed by anyone

>>59877753
>>59877589
love this artist's work
if i ever could make an OS happen (sadly not common in the days of muh big 3 *really muh big 2 and this old guys nerdy grandson that like 3 people wanna hang with*) i'd love for it to match their concepts desu cause they have a lot of what i enjoyed in computers...

although maybe an ARM Based OS for SBC's like the rPi could find use of this?

>>59878912
p. much... although they at least have the search from win 7 so...

I literally stopped searching from a list cause it became impossible and just would press start + <half name of program> enter

it's literally regressive, i'm just in a lazier form of DOS\Linux

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>>59878912
Ok, ill give you that one.

>no way to minimize all windows
>no way to easily divide the screen between two windows
>windows don't respect other windows borders
These few simple features alone already make using old windows UIs a huge pain in the ass.

>had to make a bootable DOS disk to start the windows installation from the command line
>the talking clip and many other retarded features and programs that no one ever used
>screen tearing and slowness all the fucking time
>no way to type the name of the program you want to use in the start menu to save you the time of searching it
>start menu didn't learn you most used programs and listed them first for the sake of practicality
>shitty system settings UI with redundant ways of configuring the same things and fucking horrible configuration wizards, but that is still basically the same in recent windows versions
>no custom keyboard shortcuts

The list goes on.
Pic related. The UI of Office applications and media players were the ones that by far improved the most.

>>59879237
>The Matrix came out in 1999

Oh god, I'm getting old...

>>59879141
I think an OS for the SBCs would have to be honest up front and limit itself appropriately. Something like this is perfectly within their ability (RISC OS works very well with them), but people need to stop expecting so much of them.

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>>59878047
Is that a hybrid of vacuum cleaner and sneak?

>>59879344
It's a cylinder vacuum cleaner.

>>59879360
But vacuum cleaners don't have eyes

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>falling for the color meme

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>>59879237
>no way to minimize all windows
>no way to easily divide the screen between two windows
--------
>screen tearing and slowness all the fucking time
Isn't that a hardware problem?

>>59877247
Oh look. It's the pedophile again.

>>59877230
My ideal DE would be the Windows 2000 look: professional, aesthetic and easy to master to the average person while useful and relatively easy for the power user to use

>>59877247
GTFO disgusting ricer pedophile

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>>59879617
>It's the pedophile again
Welcome to pedo website

>>59879522
>>falling for the color meme
Color takes 3 times as long to do anything because pixels.

>>59879237
>no way to minimize all windows
winkey+D
>no way to easily divide the screen between two windows
>windows don't respect other windows borders
pretty much >>59879546 's pic related
>had to make a bootable DOS disk to start the windows installation from the command line
not ui
>the talking clip and many other retarded features and programs that no one ever used
that's msoffice not windows
>screen tearing and slowness all the fucking time
hardware, and again not ui
>no way to type the name of the program you want to use in the start menu to save you the time of searching it
ok you got me there
>start menu didn't learn you most used programs and listed them first for the sake of practicality
that was gay and I turned it off when I went to XP

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>>59879522
>falling for the raster meme

>>59879837
Pixels/characters were a mistake.

>>59879522
>have f.lux on
>that actually looks really comfy

>>59879868
> not using redshift

32 colors drawn on-demand. Instead of worrying about screen resolution i'd upscale from 640x480. No window switching because anything more than suspending to the background is for scatterbrained pussies who prefer to hold all their marbles in one hand while trying to shoot w/ said hand. Most notably i'd focus on implementing a software suite to download videos from major websites (like youtube-dl does) and getting them to play w/out bothering the user to deal with the clusterfuck of online video playback. Of course we'd add more colors for displaying multimedia.

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>>59878077
>>>/v/

>>59879787
>winkey+D
Are you flirting with me?

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gnome + windows 10 taskbar

>>59877230
A Lisp REPL

>>59877230
Windows 95

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>>59880212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdbV8xZKOTE

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>>59880238
Both the video and audio gave me stage 9000 cancer.