/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for propane and propane accessories.

Any sed/grep/awk wizards here?
I need a way to get all the modules from a file and load them.
The file contains output of `lsmod`, it looks like this:

acpi_call              16384  0
ip_tables              24576  1 iptable_filter
x_tables               28672  14 xt_comment,xt_LOG,ipt_REJECT,ip_tables,iptable_filter,xt_tcpudp,xt_limit,ip6t_REJECT,ip6table_filter,xt_addrtype,ip6t_rt,xt_conntrack,ip6_tables,xt_hl
ext4                  528384  2
crc16                  16384  2 bluetooth,ext4
jbd2                   90112  1 ext4
fscrypto               24576  1 ext4
mbcache                16384  1 ext4
sr_mod                 24576  0
sd_mod                 49152  3
cdrom                  53248  1 sr_mod
serio_raw              16384  0
atkbd                  24576  0
libps2                 16384  2 atkbd,psmouse
ahci                   36864  2
libahci                28672  1 ahci
libata                212992  2 ahci,libahci
xhci_pci               16384  0
sdhci_pci              28672  0
sdhci                  40960  1 sdhci_pci
scsi_mod              159744  3 sd_mod,libata,sr_mod
ehci_pci               16384  0
firewire_ohci          40960  0
xhci_hcd              172032  1 xhci_pci
led_class              16384  4 sdhci,input_leds,thinkpad_acpi,iwldvm
ehci_hcd               73728  1 ehci_pci
firewire_core          57344  1 firewire_ohci
mmc_core              122880  2 sdhci,sdhci_pci
crc_itu_t              16384  1 firewire_core
usbcore               208896  6 uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,xhci_pci,btusb,xhci_hcd,ehci_pci
usb_common             16384  1 usbcore
i8042                  24576  0
serio                  20480  6 serio_raw,atkbd,psmouse,i8042

I just need the fisrst word in each line to pass to `modprobe`.

I've been using xfce on my laptop for awhile now, but the only applications I use are chromium and terminal applications inside tmux. Most of the stock xfce programs have been replaced with lighter alternatives (ranger, vim, sxiv, mpv, mupdf, etc.).
There's no point in running xfce anymore, what's a good replacement? I don't wanna go tiling cause I already use tmux, which I'm quite happy with.

>>59848410
Most people I know in the situation like you use Openbox.

>>59848410
Using a tiling wm doesn't automatically mean you need to use the tiling features. Most of them have floating modes.

>>59848352
cut -f 1 -d ' ' mymods.txt | tail -n +2

Installed elementary. Pretty comfy 2bh.

>>59848211
Richard Stallman Explains Everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUibaPTXSHk

>>59848410
just keep xfce unless you really want maximum rice, but then your fonts fuck up and you have to fix them, your gtk themes fuck up and you have to fix them, your dpi fucks up and you have to fix it, you plug in another monitor and it fucks up, etc.

I asked a question in the last thread about KoToR 2 on Debian and Ubuntu. To answer my interlocutor, there was no WINE involved. A company named Aspyr took the game and added native iOS and Linux support; Steam now hosts this patched version of the game, so now everyone can enjoy KoToR, regardless of platform. Officially they only support Ubuntu 14.04 for any of their patched games. So, no WINE. Just Steam, and KoToR.
Obviously there are large differences between Ubuntu and Debian, but presumably both use libavcodec, which added Bink support many years ago.
So, where to start, Anon?

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>>59848352
I know you got this already answered on the last thread, but just so you learn something:
awk:

# prints the 4th colum, delimited by space (default)
awk '{ print $4 }'

# prints the 4th colum, delimited by space, but only on lines that contain "something"
awk '/something/ { print $4 }'

# prints the last colum (NF), delimited by comma (-F = field separator)
awk -F, '{ print $NF }'

# hello world: awk works like this: awk 'BEGIN {initialize} condition1 {stmts} condition2 {stmts}... END {finish}'
awk 'BEGIN { print "Hello, world!"; }'

# play some random music
awk 'BEGIN {srand(); while(1) {wl=1000*(0.87055^(int(rand()*10)+1));d=(rand()*8000+80)/wl;for (i=0;i<d;i++) {for (j=0;j<wl;j++){printf("a")};for (j=0;j<wl;j++){printf("z")}; };};};' | aplay -c 2 -r 48k

Essencial oneliners: http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Happy hacking.

>>59848648
Thanks, anon.

>>59848648
>dem 8bit beeps
saved

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59848701
You should also save this one. It will come handy some day: http://www.pement.org/awk/sed1line.txt

Been using Ubuntu Unity LTS 16.04 for a week now and decided to try out other distributions today.

Fedora looked amazing but felt weird and slow, Debian's repositories were too outdated for my needs and Kubuntu was bugging out with my display setup.

Ended up installing Mint xfce and hot damn it's fast, way faster than Unity. Sure it looks and feels like Windows XP, which I'm not very fond of, but it's so fast I don't care. I had tried Cinnamon before and did not like it so this really took me by a surprise.

I wish Linux worked on my laptop. I've tried everything but I don't think its wireless and audio hardware is supported.

>>59848791

alias ls='echo we all must suffer | cowsay -fsodomized | lolcat'

is a pretty good one

>>59848812
Neat.

>>59848817
You can make XFCE look much different through things like the window manager settings, themes, icons, and standalone dock programs.

>>59848817
>wireless
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration

>>59848817
Let me guess, Broadcom wireless.

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>>59848791

espeak "we, are, the ro,bots"

>>59848858
I've tried pretty much everything but Linux never finds any hardware.

>>59848865
I think so. It's a Lenovo Miix 2 "10, got it as a gift and it's awful.

>>59848832

Packages (14) libyaml-0.1.7-1  ruby-2.4.0-1  ruby-diff-lcs-1.3-1
              ruby-paint-2.0.0-3  ruby-rainbow-2.2.1-2  ruby-rspec-3.5.0-2
              ruby-rspec-core-3.5.4-2  ruby-rspec-expectations-3.5.0-2
              ruby-rspec-mocks-3.5.0-2  ruby-rspec-support-3.5.0-2
              ruby-term-ansicolor-1.4.0-2  ruby-tins-1.13.0-2
              ruby-trollop-2.1.2-4  lolcat-42.24.0-2

is it worth it

>>59848890
Well, maybe try booting into a live Ubuntu image and click on the proprietary hardware and driver option in the installation menu (if my memory serves me correctly). If it detects it after that then there's hope. I managed to get a laptop with Broadcom WL working through that.

>>59848791
fc -l ---------list recent items in bash history.

fc -l 2 5 ------list history indexed 2 through 5.

fc ----------open last command in your default text editor.

fc -s ---------execute last command without editing it.
You can add a specific index number or string.

fc -e kate----open last command in specific text editor.

fc -e kate du---open last command beginning with du in kate. Index number works too.
When kate edit is saved and closed the command executes.

>>59848832
>>59848898
suckless lolcat, only dependency: python
https://0x0.st/wkm.py

>>59848546
Are these issues associated with openbox? Currently I'm considering that with tint2.

>>59848942
Already done that. Nada. The console commands find no wifi hardware whatsoever.

>>59848952
I'm actually using the alias as suggested in the help.

$ type r
r is aliased to `fc -s'

comfy

>>59848957
thank you based anon of dependency-free performant software

Is there any review of ryzen 5 on linux ?
I just don't give a fuck about windows.

>>59848832
cowsay cowseption | cowsay -n | cowthink -n | cowthink -n | cowthink -n | cowthink -n | cowthink -n | cowthink -n

>>59849119
beautiful

>>59849038
why tf are you looking for ryzen 5 where there is ryzen 7 1700X that works fine in Linux

>Unity is kill by GNOME
>Wayland beginning to ship
>Vulkan also happening slowly

How much market share could GNU/Linux actually gain if the above makes it easier for normies and gaymers?

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>>59849119
How can windows even compete

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Old memes aside is there any way to flag Firefox/Chromium to just open Kdialog without installing the entire Plasma 5 desktop?

>>59848817
funny but did you check clicking Fn key plus what F key it is to enable/disable wireless? have been hit with that before.
also been hit by it being disabled in bios

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>>59849180

>>59849238
lol that kdialog is not only better than gtkfilechooser, it's actually a more functional filemanager than nautilus

>>59849180
You don't need KDE, there's a patch for GTK2 that allows thumbnails in the file dialog (check if your distro has a package for it). For Firefox you'd need to compile it with the GTK2 flags, for Chromium I believe it already uses GTK2 by default.

But doing >>59849238 is better, it just takes a while to get used to.

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>>59849176
We need to go deeper.

>>59849286
Chromium is moving to GTK3 (finally)

>>59849160
because there's 170€ difference between those two CPU. And R7 seems a bit too much for my needs

>>59849330
https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600-linux-benchmarks-and-review-we-like-this-one/

>>59849166
Stop thinking that market share is important.

Is there a way to configure the font in CDE? Using ubuntu here and the defaults has serif, which is not only ugly as fuck, it is also not the default.

>>59849297
Chromium is botnet.

>>59849297
RIP
I dont like the Gtk3 file dialog. It feels sluggish and does weird things like hiding folders while searching (what other gui toolkit does that? it's unintuitive).

So I installed Linux 16.04.2 LTS but some programs don't work like they should. I've downloaded speccy like usual but when I double-click on the .exe I just get an unkown file format error, wtf. I thought Linux is ready to use by now? Did I fall for a meme?!

Friends. Is there any way to get thubnails in the GTK filepicker? I would go compiling if there's a patch and some kind anon would hold my hand, or, is the only solution KDE? I actually like GTK, at least as backend for my i3 config and I don't wanna switch just because of a filepicker problem. Also why is this still a thing? Years back when I was on Windows I already knew about the "filepicker meme", seems that this bug is now 14 years old and still no fix? What are they thinking? Why don't we go to the GNOME irc and tell them to do some work?
Thanks.

>>59849503
Don't go to the IRC, spam the shit out of the bugzilla thread

>>59849503
some anon made a picker patch for gtk2 but everyone is using gtk3 now, so no patch, install kde

>>59849503
I actually can't blame you.
I mean, what are the chances that the answer is literally 10 posts above yours?

>>59849538
thats a cripple workaround and you know it

>>59849564
>I would go compiling if there's a patch
He doesn't seem to mind.

>>59849503
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7

Although last time I tried it, it didn't work very well and crashed with webms.

>>59849601
>>59849572
>>> >>59849526

>>59849601
How to apply this?

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>>59849623
>kde

>>59849180
F for Hakon

>>59849180
does hakon know that he's an inofficial internet hall of famer?

>>59849180
Microsoft Windows does not have this problem.

How can I make "setxkbmap" persist through reboots?

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>>59849705

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>>59849705
When I released GNU Emacs and people started using it, they started sending me improvements in the mail. So I would get a message with a bug fix, and a message with a new feature, and another bug fix, and another new feature, and another... and another... until they were pouring in on me so fast that just taking advantage of all of the help people were giving me was a big job. Microsoft doesn't have this problem.

is there a way to run two desktop sessions and switch between them?
I'd like to run one with my usual gnome desktop and one with i3 for learning

>>59849840
xnest

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Well, I'm having a bit of trouble trying to understand how can I play a facebook audio message in mpv.

>>59849903
stop being used by facebook

>>59849903
>hqdefault.jpg
pls go

>>59849840
switch to a tty and run

xinit i3 -- :1 vt8

then go to tty8

>>59849919
I need to talk to coworkers. Also I'm already having trouble because I refuse to use office instead of libreoffice and gnumeric.

>>59850015
dude, just use google docs, it's compatible with everything and easy to share/collaborate

>>59850015
This imageboard breaths high quality memes and posts. Why do you think that googling some youtube thumbnail in order to put some attention to your tech support question will lead to anything other than being called a faggot, faggot?

>>59849840
Yes, but you may have trouble with things like audio. See the other replies for starting X on other tty's

>>59849883
>>59849992
thanks honeys

>>59849753
is emacs any good? I heard many good things about "org mode", but I've never tried emacs myself
how to get started?

>>59848211
>rtorrent keeps crashing when left alone on my RPi
>years worth of abandoned networking projects on the thing
>rtorrent logging is shit
what do
I don't want to set up an internet ssh share again

>>59850123
http://emacs.sexy/#learn

This is the worst fucking general on here, every time I ask a question it's ignored! Well fuck you!

>>59850130
rtorrent crashed for me too (actually it simply froze) after some hours when there was lots of traffic
i switched to transmission, theres also cli stuff for it

>>59850130
I forgot to mention, I set up the systemd daemon that's supposed to restore it when it crashes

>>59850148
>first post in this thread
kys

Is the archlinux.org page down or something?

>>59850148
> Anonymous (23) 04/12/17(Wed)
>(23)
You didn't ask any question

So tomorrow my hdd should be arriving, and I'm going to be installing a distro onto it. Would mint or ubuntu be a better distro for a beginner? I think mint looks really slick on cinnamon, especially the newest version of it, but I read that mint was compromised not long ago and could still be breached. However, ubuntu has tons of support and help threads online, and that could be very useful to me if I mess something up. Again, would you recommend ubuntu or mint?

>>59850163
The fuck are you talking about?

>>59850167
yes

>>59850167
nope
try www.

>>59850176
your homosexuality

>>59850170
if it's just cinnamon you're after you can install it on ubuntu and I think there's even a cinnamon buntu flavor

>>59850168
I am talking about in previous threads. I have asked questions multiple times and no one has given a shit.
Friendly Linux General my fucking ass.
This is one of the reasons why people don't want to switch, autistic community.

>>59850193
Fuck off.

>>59850193
There is literally nothing wrong with liking dick. FRIENDLY thread.

>>59850181
Still not working. For some reason the wiki and AUR still work though

>>59850200
What question do you have? Let's see if I can help.

>>59850216
stop namefagging

>>59850216
I appreciate the offer but I have no questions at the moment.

>>59850170
Mint isn't compromised. Someone hacked their site and posted a bad ISO for like one day before it got taken down. There isn't anything wrong with the distro itself.

Mint is basically ubuntu under the hood, but it's based on the LTS so it isn't as bleeding edge. That could be a good or bad thing depending on your preferences. It is possible to install Cinnamon on Ubuntu as well.

Personally I use Mint.

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>>59850265
A hacker is someone who enjoys playful cleverness - not necessarily with computers. The programmers in the old MIT free software community of the 60s and 70s referred to themselves as hackers. Around 1980, journalists who discovered the hacker community mistakenly took the term to mean "security breaker." Please don't spread this mistake. People who break security are "crackers."

>>59850151
>[thing] doesn't work what do
>switch to [other thing] It solved all my problems
>[other thing] has a completely different set of problems
everytime

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>>59850265
>There isn't anything wrong with the distro itself.
I'd just like to interject.

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why can't pcmanfm look at windows SMB shares even though it can connect just fine to ones run on linux?

pls redpill me on systemd
I feel like it's too complex because it's over 300k lines of code, compared to just a few thousand for runit which does the same stuff. I don't really know anything about it though.

>>59850321
the connection timed out one pops up immediately, there's no waiting for it to time out at all

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>>59850321
Pardon me for one moment. What you are calling Linux, is in actuality, GNU/Linux, or as I have nicknamed it, GNU plus Linux. Linux isn't an operating system by itself, but it is just another part of the GNU system, which has been extended in functionality via various GNU components (including GNU's shell utilities and corelibs) which only then fit the definition of a complete operating system as outlined by POSIX.

There are many people today who are running the GNU operating system without even being aware of it. Through a strange turn of events, a misnomer has emerged where people refer to a widely used version of the GNU system as "Linux", unaware that the proper name for the system they run is the GNU operating system.

Now while they are in fact using Linux, it is only one component of the system that they run. Linux is used as the kernel: the part of an operating system which distributes a machine's resources to other programs which request them. While this functionality is essential for the successful functioning of a system, it cannot function on its own, it needs an operating system within which it can carry out its functions. Linux is commonly paired with the GNU operating system: the entirety of the system is GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every single "Linux Distribution" is actually a distribution of GNU/Linux.

>>59850196
>>59850265
Thank you anons! I think I'll go with ubuntu and try to install the cinnamon de

>>59850170

I'd actually recommend Ubuntu for a beginner....but wait, I meant Ubuntu Gnome if you really don't need the root user

>fuck unity

>>59850332
Systemd is okay and not many people care about the init system

>>59850321
http://askubuntu.com/questions/109507/smbclient-getting-nt-status-logon-failure-connecting-to-windows-box
This one might apply if you have the same problem with other things that aren't pcmanfm.

>>59850401
my 2cents on systemd: I don't fall for the botnet memes and I don't care about unix philosophy and whatever, but I'd say that systemd making dependencies on so many programs is actually a problem - it doesn't affect the experience of a random users, but surely it will have some vital impact on the complete ecosystem after a while, a least when people who basically shouldnt care, dont care

guys I got the linux source code the dumb motherfuckers left their github to public: https://github.com/torvalds/linux
steal it quickly

>>59850459
So we repost reddit posts now?

r.i.p. fglt

>>59850342
>Fun with copy and paste

>>59850440
>write program
>people like it
>people adopt it in their distros
>more people adopt it in their distros
>it's too mainstream, programs start to depending on it
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

you anti-systemd fags have no brain
did you know that most programs depend on linux
does it make linux any bad?

thread is lost, abadon all hope

How is Solus as a desktop OS these days? I've been seeing the name pope up more and more over the past several months but is it ready to replace Ubuntu or Arch?

$ smbclient -L spaceheater -U simcye -W WORKGROUP
Enter simcye's password: 
protocol negotiation failed: ERRDOS:ERRnomem

>>59850542
Didn't see anyone actually really using Solus. AFAIK Solus is a meme distro made by some /g/ fag "kevin" who has botnetted the kernel.

>>59850560
>>59850428

>>59850542
I was tempted to install Solus, but installed Elementary instead. I like point releases.

>>59850397
Why would I not be able to use the root user if I use the gnome de?

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>>59850599
This.

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>>59850599

>>59850539
You must be new here.

>>59850471
you're admitting that you're also a redditor. You have to go back.

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>>59850599
inane

>>59850599
....

>>59850599
60000000 soon, make it a GNU/get

>>59850683
>60 Million shitposts in /g/

>>59850697
how many of these are intejections?

>>59850599
10/10

>>59850599
how

>>59850710
curl archive api and let us know

>>59850321
>>59850428
well it seems to only be happening on 1 computer
all the other things listed on the network I can connect to just fine

>>59850729
There's a setting on Windows that some guides recommend changing but I can't remember which one it is. Maybe that's why.

>>59850729

$ cat /etc/samba/smb.conf
[global]
   workgroup = WORKGROUP
   server string = Samba Server
   printcap name = /etc/printcap
   load printers = yes
   log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log
   max log size = 50
   security = user
   dns proxy = no 
[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   browseable = no
   writable = yes
[printers]
   comment = All Printers
   path = /var/spool/samba
   browseable = no
   guest ok = no
   writable = no
   printable = yes

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>>59850599

>>59850729
>>59850756
I found it. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149 Problem 5 but if you've ever updated your Windows installation it shouldn't apply

>there are people in this thread who still run windows

>>59850804
It takes a while, give them some time, don't bully.

>>59850816
you're right, excuse the my autistic moment

>>59850804
>friendly GNU/Linux thread
>FRIENDLY
Also some people need it for work or games. MikuMikuDance is pretty much impossible to use with Wine and some people live off of it. And in some cases, like the samba share, you can't really tell your entire company to swap over to Linux just because Windows doesn't correctly follow its own network protocol.

>>59850776
>literally just restart windows
>works now
why the fuck is windows so bad at everything

>>59850858
>I need this bad thing, because
That's what drug addicts say.

>>59850804
I do because it's what I'm used to, I've got vidya on it, and a few other programs that I need (i.e. solidworks) are best on windows

>>59850858
GNU/Linux*

>>59850879
jesus christ

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>>59850919
Free software means software that respects the user's freedom.

There are four essential freedoms that the user of software should always have:

Freedom 0 is the freedom to run the program however you wish.
Freedom 1 is the freedom to study the source code of the program and change it to make the program do as you wish.
Freedom 2 is the freedom to distribute copies of the program to others when you wish. This includes republication of the program.
Freedom 3 is the freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others when you wish. This includes republication.

If you have all four of these essential freedoms, then the program is free software, which means that the social system of the distribution of the program is an ethical system that respects the freedom and community of the users.

If one of these freedoms is missing, then the program is proprietary software, meaning that it keeps the users divided and helpless, and gives the developer power over the users. This is an injustice. Proprietary software should not exist and should not be used.

If you want to have freedom, the only way you can have it while using computers is by rejecting proprietary software.

>>59850940
kek

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>Use Command line
>Move around with cd and dir easy shit
>Need to change permissions of file (logical mount)
>Name is fuckhuge
>Dont want to copy-paste

Can i sort the file,folders in a directory as numbers and use those numbers instead of the name?

>>59850895
NAS boxes don't always use GNU over Linux

>>59850878
Yeah sure, I'll just get another job, then search for another once I find out that one is still retarded, then another, then another.

>>59850956
Did you try hitting partoffile[TAB]

>>59850956
you'll probably need a script for that, or you can use tab completion

>>59850956
>FUCKING_LARGEFILE_JPG_BUT_COMPRESSED_HOLYSHIT_WHODOESNTLOVEFINGERWEAR.JPG
>FUCKING_LAR[tab]

>>59850959
what's your job?

>>59851004
Doesn't apply in my case, I fully use Linux and don't even get near Windows. But if you work at an IT company or something you WILL have to face Windows servers at some point.

>>59851019
GNU/Linux*

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>>59850968
>>59851003

My Gratitude

>>59851025
Busybox is a thing. Cry harder.

>>59851102
Not an argument against GNU/Linux combinations.

>>59851102
I heard that busybox' cat is pretty feature-rich, is that true?

>>59851082
Protip: if there's more than one file that starts like that, some shells will ask you to tab more than once.

>>59851116
Of course it's not an argument against GNU/Linux, but correcting every "Linux" to "GNU/Linux" is stupid. Android, the most used Linux distribution, isn't GNU/Linux.

>>59851194
What OS are you running right now?

>>59851131
not sure if sarcasm, but well, busybox utilities are pretty much stripped down to the minimum

$ busybox cat --help
Usage: cat [FILE]...

Concatenate FILEs and print them to stdout

>>59851252
lolwut

>>59851194
Android is Android. Linux is a kernel, used in the Android OS.

Give me Three (3) good reasons not to use Fedora.

>>59851264
and according to your logic you should be correcting everyone who says android to android/linux. most android users don't give a shit about linux and most linux users don't give a shit about gnu

tl:dr
you're annoying

>>59851287
N, S, A

>>59851296
But I love them, they gave me SHA when no one else would.

>>59848970
You could try a usb dongle.

>>59851294
People who call the GNU/Linux system "Linux" are annoying and toxic to the community, acutally.

>>59851305
They don't know it better. Surf the web, Linux everywhwere, no words about GNU.

>>59851305
sure pal, if you value gnu so much then shouldn't you learn to program if you don't already know and contribute to hurd?

>>59851294
>most linux users don't give a shit about gnu
that's actually pretty sad tbqh

>>59851335
>>59851335
maybe so, but gnu advocates are the Jehovahs' witnesses of the computer world

>>59851305
In a company environment where everything would have to switch over to Linux, more than a couple of appliances/servers/computers/whatever would end up using Linux without GNU. For example, a server that's just for SMB wouldn't need GNU since BusyBox can do it. Kiosks could run with Android without an issue.

>>59851252
Busybox tends to not mention options in the usage message. mount doesn't even mention how to specify filesystem type.

>>59849380
Meh this thing is pretty much window maker with a dock at the bottom.

>>59851287
1. SELinux is NSA botnet garbage
2. systemd is bloated and overcomplicated
3. GNOME is shit
4. You're beta testing software for RHEL that is often broken, even more than arch. ie pulseaudio, systemd, wayland

>>59851424
>2. systemd is bloated and overcomplicated
How's LFS with BusyBox and BSD's initd going for you?

>>59851388

$ busybox cat -n file
cat: invalid option -- 'n'
Usage: cat [FILE]...

Concatenate FILEs and print them to stdout
$ busybox cat -v file
cat: invalid option -- 'v'

Usage: cat [FILE]...

Concatenate FILEs and print them to stdout
$ busybox cat -s file
cat: invalid option -- 's'

Usage: cat [FILE]...

Concatenate FILEs and print them to stdout

well

>>59851424
>1. SELinux is NSA botnet garbage
Nice proof.
>2. systemd is bloated and overcomplicated
Systemd is just fine
>3. GNOME is shit
Fedora has other spins if you don't like GNOME
>4. You're beta testing software for RHEL that is often broken, even more than arch. ie pulseaudio, systemd, wayland
I need all of them

>>59851252
>>59851102
Botnetbox
FTFY

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>>59851474

>>59851444
I'm actually still using the bloated and shitty GNU coreutils, but i've escaped glibc and systemd
everything is pretty great tbqh, could do with a few more musl packages though

>>59851495
What are you trying to say?

>>59851517
>NSA and Red Hat

>>59851536
Go on...

>>59851495
>NSA and Red Hat together
>Red Hat controls the Linux world
wew lads, time to jump ship to openbsd.

I don't know much about security but doesn't this make Arch seem incredibly insecure?
https://security.archlinux.org/

>Red Hat and NSA
>Canonical and Microsoft
>Linux Foundation and Microsoft (Gold Member)
when went everything so wrong

>>59851570
May be if OpenBSD was nearly usable in hardware in this century people would use it

>>59851555
hi kde shill i hope ur alright

>>59851597
runs on my x220

>>59851555
>rothschilds bow to Poettering
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control userland with an iron fist
>own distros all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient german blood line
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be systemd babies.
>both poettering and kay sievers said to have 200+ IQ

>>59851597
werks on my machine (TM).

>>59851614
I'm great, how are you doing?
>>59851625
Yeah, I know. Seems like you are the only one who claims to run it in some decade old shitty poorfagpad in /g/
Why don't you go open a BSD thread and circlejerk there?
>>59851627
Stop samefagging

the panic about Red Hat contributing to linux is completely retarded
they do half the work on the kernel at this point
they maintain networkmanager, systemd and udev (are there any distros without udev at this point?). They basically control GNOME and influence Wayland.

>>59851654
>Yeah, I know. Seems like you are the only one who claims to run it in some decade old shitty poorfagpad in /g/
>Why don't you go open a BSD thread and circlejerk there?
why are you mad?

>>59851654
X220 is from 2011.
Also, how is it poorfag tier?

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>>59851667
No one really cares. It's a couple of macfags trying to stir up a shitstorm ITT
>>59851679
I'm not. BSD has no drivers, that's all.

>>59851692
>2011
Yeah if you don't realize that you are literally using a 2011 laptop and claim "werks in my machine" you are blind

>>59851570
bsd sucks, especially the community
>be bsd
>be proprietary bullcrap
>rms comes along, annoying like he is
>doesnt stop being annoying until bsd opens source code and starts sharing code with gnu
>everyone is like "yayyyy gnu <3 bsd"
>[centuries pass]
>bsdfags hate on gnu and rms
>call themselves "more free"
>eat apples clang dick cheese

horrible

>>59851712
>strawpoll
Reminder that this is /g/. Some computer literate people are posting sometimes too.

>>59851654
stop stealing my name

>>59851720
BSD got cucked hard by Apple, and it ended up helping Linux (if Apple had made CUPS proprietary, Linux printing would be terrible)

>>59851712
Did you even try to install it or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?
>BSD has no drivers
This honestly sounds like bait.
Most Linux drivers can be ported and patched to run on BSD without too much effort.
The hardware support is almost as good as on Linux.

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>>59851770
>The hardware support is almost as good as on Linux.

such great heights

>>59851770
Can I install Steam and game on BSD? I have intel kaby lake graphics and an nvidia 970.

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>>59851744
Meh, you can try using a *BSD distro, I'm afraid it:
1. Cannot run in most of your hardware
2. Hence cannot be run exclusively
3. If you ask around and report the lack of drivers you will be told to write the driver yourself

No one really uses *BSD (especially openbsd, it's just for macfags that try to blend in)

>>59851770
A few times, yes. GNOME was so laggy I puked. Cinnamon would crash. Went back to linux and things worked like a charm. I don't blame you people though.
1. BSD has no userbase to test software
2. Lack of contributors, almost dead projects, especially in desktops

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>>59851803
GNU/Linux

>>59851787
kek what a baller

>>59851787
I'd say that we have the luxury to choose our hardware according to our software needs, not the other way around.
>>59851791
I'm not gonna do a google search for you.

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What is the best frontend for mpv?

>>59851881
SMPlayer imo

>>59851803
>using gnome
aren't you a kde guy tho?
>Cinnamon would crash
it does that on linux too
DE's are shit even on linux, you can't expect anything better on bsd
don't be a pleb and use a wm
>1. BSD has no userbase to test software
it has a small, but very active community
>2. Lack of contributors, almost dead projects, especially in desktops
source?

>>59851881
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Applications-using-mpv

>>59851881
why would you use a "frontend" for mpv??

>>59851970
I like to change settings alot when watching movies. It's my personal autism.

>>59851938
1. KDE 5 hasn't been ported to GNOME.
2. Nope. I experienced 0 Cinnamon crashes in the last 3 years or so in Linux
>3. DEs are shit
They are not. Probably it's just BSD
>4. source?
You said yourself, BSD has a small community. Which results in a very small number of contributors. You really don't believe people are interested in developing their desktop apps for 4 flavours of BSDs, do you?

>>59851977
is your keyboard broken or something?
there's a keybind for almost anything you would neet and you can make your own for keybinds for more obscure things

best Linux distro for data recovery?

someone help me, where do I get the qt5 stuff for compiling stuff that needs qt5? do I really need to install that fucking gigabyte huge package?

apparently the proprietary libspotif has been deprecated. It still works, but I'm worried it will eventually get shut down (I use mopidy-spotify and ncmpcpp to integrate my local music with spotify). Has anyone used Librespot (apparently it plays spotify without libspotify. It's on the aur but i don't have a pc on arch right now)?

>>59851997
Kali GNU/Linux

>>59851997
morpheusarch linux

>>59852009
>spotify
nonfree pig disgusting

>>59851988
I said that the BSD community is more active, although smaller, a larger percent of it gives meaningful contributions

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>>59852009

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>>59851881
>frontend for mpv

>>59851988
>ported to GNOME
I meant OpenBSD

>>59852064
What's wrong?

>>59852024
>>59852062
where am I supposed to get my music then faggot? Use an autistic private tracker to steal it, like you?

>>59852088
How did people listen to music before spotify?

>>59852103
They didn't

>>59852088
>steal
wtf

>>59851977
please just take a look at the man page
the keybinds are at the very beginning
you don't need a frontend

>>59851555
Are you still running openSUSE? I remember you moved over to ubuntu because of the dependency issues in openSUSE

>>59852138
Gibbe increase/decrease shapening and noise keybinds pls.

>>59852148
I use OpenSUSE, Manjaro and Elementary OS in 3 machines. Thinking of getting a Ryzen build on which I will use Elementary.

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I've been using Ubuntu for a while now and I feel pretty save. What is my next step? Should I install Debian or Arch? The AUR looks interesting.

what's all this controversy around BSD?
can anyone explain what's going on?

>>59852221
it's the jews..

>>59852221
BSDfags trying to shill BSD (which is fine) while shitting on GNU and Linux (which is not)

>>59852236
communism

>>59852243
no ones's shitting on GNU but Linuxfags

>>59852243
while you're a namefagging faggot, good post

>>59852210
It's a toy you're going to be bored with in 1% of the time it takes you to set up the distro.

Go learn something completely different. Linux is just one of many tools.

>>59852205
Does the history of SUSE being passed around by bigger corporations (Novell, Attachmate, Microfocus) not concern you in regard to the future/longevity or direction of openSUSE?

I only ask this because I know that openSUSE gets a lot of work from the actual SUSE developers.

>>59852243
Point me to the exact posts where "BSD shills" are shitting on GNU and Linux.

>>59852269
>>59851570

>>59852281
>can't recognize blatant sarcasm

found the autist

>>59852281
>feeling threatened by one shitpost
kek

I'm trying to use wicd to get my WiFi working. It was working fine. I enabled the systemd service, and connected fine, but when I reboot it prints "throttling autoreconnect" and "starting automatic reconnect process" six million times. It works as soon as I press C in wicd-curses, how do I make it connect automatically in reboot? I would just use networkmanager but I can't get it to work at all. It probably isn't a driver problem. Its an Intel card and iwlwifi loads fine.

>>59852210
Stick to Ubuntu. Open the terminal and start typing. When you feels save here, then you're ready for switching and you'll automatically know what distro is best for you.

>>59852210
Arch is superior.
Using Arch makes *you* superior.

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>>59852308
>linux
>wifi that actually works

pick one

>>59852267
Nope. In fact I think OpenSUSE team is devoted/paid to maintain their point releases which means a higher level of stability overall. It means updating libreoffice won't really damage the system (See Arch). It's very unlikely that SUSE will cut ties with OpenSUSE.

If OpenSUSE were to die (theoratically) I'd move to Fedora or Korora. Or Ubuntu.

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>>59852327
delet

>>59852333
what the fuck is the difference between ferora and korora?

Does RHEL have a demo version? I want to try before I buy.

>>59852327
This is the biggest meme ever. For me, WiFi actually works better on Linux than windows (ath10k. The windows driver is cancer and constantly drops connection. While it is proprietary, the kernel firmware just werks with network manager.)

>>59852360
The same difference between Debian and Ubuntu. Or Parabola and Arch.

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>>59852327
It just werk.

>>59852367
CentOS is literally exactly the same, but without the red hat support. I'd honestly recommend just using centos for free unless you need red hat's support.

>>59852382
so none

>>59852375
For me it's the exact opposite. Atheros and Intel drivers run at less than half the speed they do on windows and it doesn't matter what card I use.

>>59852397
what's the difference between centos and fedora?

>>59852412
One of them is for tippers.

>>59852398
?

What's the difference between Arch and Mandriva?
Protip: None

What's the difference between Linux?

>>59852433
one of them is on my computer and the other is on my youtube

>>59852433
You can install Linux on Linux.

>>59852412
Centos is based on red hat enterprise source code, so it's very stable with out of date libraries and packages (it doesn't really matter) and old kernels. Fedora is independent, and has much newer packages, and tends to get new features that eventually go to red hat. Fedora is bad for servers. IMO centos and Debian stable are the best distros for servers, red hat if you want professional support.

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>>59852433
>>59852460

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https://kororaproject.org/
>purposely includes proprietary software, even more fedora
>uses the term open source
>uses the term free the wrong way

>>59852488
REEEEEE

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>>59852488

give me some interesting stallman talks

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What is Debian Desktop Environment? Is that their own DE? Don't know if I should bother installing that alongside Xfce or not.

>>59852479
damn, it's been years when I've seem a trollface

>>59852531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eginMQBWII4

>>59852488
>it's literally just fedora with a different paintjob
>free as in beer, not freedom
jesus christ

>>59852535
The Debian Desktop Environment is just a picture of Debbie fucking her big black bull while Ian wanks his tiny cock in the background

>>59852535
You should install both Debian DE (collection of packages to go with DE( and the DE you want. Don't pick Debian DE if you want a headless server or something.

>>59852535
DO NOT DO THAT, IT'S GNOME, YOU'LL NEVER WANT TO USE GNU/LINUX AGAIN
choose literally anything but GNOME, it doesn't have a taskbar, it wastes vertical space, it's unintuitive to the new user and it's meant to be used for tablets

>>59852563
Ian is dead

>>59852535
Just install Xfce.

>>59852570
Jesus christ how terrifying. Last time I used Linux desktop was Ubuntu with GNOME maybe 10-12 years back

>>59852548
thanks

>>59852535
Xfce, KDE and LXDE are all excellent choices
uncheck "Debian desktop environment" and choose one and only one of those

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I literally cannot fathom how anyone could use this piece of shit.

>>59852580
Jeez, I hadn't heard about that
They must have updated the picture to Debbie bent over his grave while getting pounded by a black cock

I think I'm going to go balls deep soon and use openSUSE Tumbleweed or Arch. Help me decide.

>>59852663
Arch is superior.

>>59852661
you must be 18+ to post on 4chan

>>59852657
>GNOME from 2 years ago

>>59852626
>>59852570
So it's, what, Debians flavor of GNOME, or I can choose vanilla GNOME? Trying to figure out why it and GNOME are both listed.
>>59852663
My full blown /g/ retard friend dropped Arch because he said it was literally just Linux for the sake of maintaining Linux. I don't remember what he's on now, but he liked openSUSE at some point.

>>59852698
>So it's, what, Debians flavor of GNOME, or I can choose vanilla GNOME?
It's just GNOME
>Trying to figure out why it and GNOME are both listed.
who knows
"Debian desktop" and "GNOME" are literally one and the same

>>59852698
GNU+Linux

>>59852698
they're both the same, vanilla gnome

will 2018 be the year of the Debian Desktop?

>>59852720
stop confusing people, just say GNU

>>59852696
what's the difference now?

>>59852738
Debian jumped up into the top 3 of distrowatch. Chances are good.

>>59852670
Please don't troll the newbies anon.

i made a new thread if it matters: >>59852838

>>59852752
>holds up linux as of 2002
>eugh... who would ever use this shit?
>that's linux from a while ago, things have changed
>oh yeah, list them all
kys immediately friendo

>>59852848
Thanks bby.

>>59852861
all versions of gnome 3 look literally the same
they're all tablet oriented
they all waste vertical space
none of them have taskbars (I mean real taskbars, not that applel dock bullshit, and yes, I know that there's an extension for that, but that puts the taskbar on the bottom, vasting even more valuable vertical space)

>>59852375
Same with intel 8260, in windows 5GHz ac only about 200-400 kB/s while linux can achieve >10-15MB/s

>>59852972
GNU/Linux*

>>59853086
It's called Linux, became you can have a Linux system without GNU, and still run all the same programs, but they won't run without the Linux kernel. Linus calls it Linux, and he's the final decision maker on these matters. GNU/Linux is an unwieldy name, and basically everyone, from normies to Red Hat and the kernel maintainers calls it Linux. Not to mention, calling it Linux makes it clear that the kernel is the important part worth recognising, but GNU/Linux disregards other important parts, such as Xorg and systemd.

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>>59853309
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>59853744
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

>>59849038

Every review I have seen of the ryzen linup in linux have been fantastic, especially if you're going to be doing alot of compiling. I would guess that the r5 lineup is more of the same. Ram speed seems to be the bottleneck in ryzen systems, so just get high speed memory and you should be fine.

>>59849390
Ungoogled chromium isn't though.

>>59853802
Jokes on you, I'm not really Richard Stallman

>>59854985
top kek & rekt