To be honest, $6.99 is a phenomenal price for 1 TB. It's

>>59846907
a month

>>59846907
Fuck off microdick shill

>>59846907
kill yourself

>>59846907
>$84 a year for giving your data, unencrypted, to microshit of all people

yeah no

and i'm pretty sure there are actual competent companies with good uptime who can beat that price

>>59846907
After a few months of that payment plan you could have simply purchased a 1TB drive with a one time payment, shill.

>>59846907
>paying for the privilege of giving some NSA front company control of your data

>>59846907
Anything over a year is 6.99 for electricity when you could of bought the drive.

>>59846979
>>59847004

Literally not a factor unless you're a pedo uploading illegal material

>>59846907
>$6.99 a month + 10% sales tax since I live in Microsoft's back yard (WA)
>$7.70 a month x 12 months per year
>$92.40 a year with no control over how my data is stored, what hardware it runs on, etc etc etc
I'd rather build a cheap NAS/VPN setup for $50 more and run it forever with full control over my data.

Also,
>onedrive software only copies the data
>the data that you're supposedly storing in the cloud is still taking up 1TB of drive space

>>59846907
>renting storage
Nah.

>>59846979
>and i'm pretty sure there are actual competent companies with good uptime who can beat that price
Yeah there are. Example, Backblaze will do unlimited backups for $50 a year.

>>59847099
You can literally buy a 1TB external hard drive for cheaper than a year of cloud botnet

>>59847003
>>59847026
Not him and I'd never recommend or use Onedrive, but you're comparing local storage with remote/online storage, it's not the same.

>>59847127
local storage can be "remote/online storage"?

>>59847127
Why would you want online storage
Buy a flash drive with a key ring for a fraction of the yearly cost

>>59847099
no
there was some cloud backup service, i think it was microsoft's, which (without user's knowledge or consent, iirc) made backed up documents publicly accessible to anyone who used the search bar at the front page of the website. so ssn's, cc's, logins/passwords, corporate trade secrets were easily publicly discoverable with simple searches. too lazy to find an article about it because the only reason you typed out your post was to get replies anyway and you aren't actually interested in this.

>>59847138
Not really. It can't be local and remote at the same time.

>>59847166
>Why would you want online storage
Remote backups in case your house burns down, for example.

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>>59847166
>flash drive with a key ring

I can't plug a 1TB USB drive into my phone.

>>59847127
My local storage is remote online storage whenever I'm not home.

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>>59847166
>Why would you want online storage

Because it's instantly available across all of my devices.

>>59847208
of course it can. it depends on what device you use to access it.

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>>59847166
>Why would you want online storage

Easy to share files with friends, family and colleagues all around the world.

>>59847223
>>I can't plug a 1TB USB drive into my phone.

Yes you can

Unless you're an applecuck

>>59847182
Yes, it was MS and their Office online or something like that, about a week ago.

Also a couple of years ago MS admitted that they look at people's files, at what content they're uploading.
Of course all providers can look at unencrypted files, but only MS could be so clumsy to admit it and don't even feel a bit of shame or the need to apologize.

>>59847278
you have neither

>>59847323
>assuming every 4chan user is an /r9k/ NEET hikkimori

That's where you're wrong.

>>59846907
>$6.99/month
>$84/year
>For unencrypted storage you don't own

Why in the world would you not just get a 1 TB hdd? You can get them for cheaper than 1 year of that cloud storage, and then you and only you have access to it, you can encrypt it, and you have access even with no internet.

>>59847286
i just assume all cloud providers at least scan all files uploaded to their servers against known cp and malware. i mean, it IS their servers, and they DO have that right to know what people are uploading to it, and they are potentially liable for bad shit. they shouldn't apologize for that.

now, idk what kinds of research they are developing based on this or other bullshit. but if all these "file backup solutions" or whatever you tech ninnies call them were so open about what they do with your files, people might be more interested in shying away from them or with utilizing encryption.

>>59847384
>i just assume all cloud providers at least scan all files uploaded to their servers against known cp and malware.
All that is done automatically anyway. Only edge cases are handled by humans.
But in this case, it wasn't about any illegal or malicious content. It was just about some users uploading more data than the usual. And MS had to take a peek and tell the world. They have the right to do it, but it's still stupid and clumsy.

And you should always encrypt the data wherever you're uploading. This isn't my main problem with MS vs other providers. They're just a bad company and their products suck, even more than they used to. W10 sucks, their online services suck. It's all so half assed and buggy.

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>>59847166
>>59847378
Can't put a 1TB hard drive on your iPhone for when you leave the house.

Can't share that exported PDF with your colleague who lives in another country within the same hour it was created with a 1TB hard drive.

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>>59846907
>literally handing ms your files

>>59847560
>when the words don't match the mouth movements

>>59847558
I can do both of those with a 1TB HDD

>>59847578
Without the internet?

>>59847533
all i can say is, if i opened up an ftp port on my hardware and told the world they could upload anything they liked, i sure as hell have a right to peek at what is getting put there. however, its up to them whether they upload sensitive information or random noise. but either way its my god damned hardware and i do have a right to look.

>>59847591
How would you use OneDrive without Internet, dumbass?

>We're now at the point where /g/ promotes no off-site backup because of rampant paranoid schizophrenia

This board needs to be deleted

>>59847578
How?

>>59847623
With a home server

>>59847594
As said before, its a stupid thing to do and an even stupider thing to admit, but they do have the right to do so. But your not microsoft, your not even a company for that matter, you dont have an 'ethical obligation' to keep peoples data private. Companies kind of do, especially if your paying for it.

>>59847651
Doesn't the cost to run and maintain a dedicated home server exceed the cost of cloud storage?

>>59847116
Microsoft sell theirs on being 'integrated'. So the idea being you dont need to go to a certain site to upload your files, you just click a button and it does it for you.
Of course its not always that simple, nor are a couple of seconds worth that much more money, but you'd be surprised how many people are tricked by it.

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>>59847728
i do NOT think its a stupid thing for them to do

its a nasty unpleasant thing. kind of like human excrement, but it's necessary for them to do it in order to maintain and keep their services up and operational.

actually, cock.li's "How Can I Trust You" statement comes to mind here

but you are right, it is very stupid for them to talk about it. people don't want to know or think about the fact that their data is getting rifled through, whether its by robot's crawling and making hashes, or if its done by human eyes. talking about this would turn people away from their service. even if they do instead go to a service that does the exact same thing only they don't talk about it.

>>59847740
I'd be using it either way, so no. Even if I was just using it as a cloud storage substitute, the only reason it costs more to leave running is my choice in hardware. If I had built one with the power bill in mind it'd certainly be cheaper per month than 1TB on OneDrive.

>>59847809
I was referring to just humans looking at it. Pretty much every service that uses any kind of file transfer does a scan, and most people are fine with that.
But yeh, my wording wasnt great. Its stupid to admit, but not necessarily stupid to do. Maybe bad or wrong is a better word in terms of them doing it in the first place, unless theres a genuine reason.

Good statement though, fair point

>>59847889
there are certainly cases where human snooping is necessary

but to be fair there is likely a lot of unnecessary, unethical human snooping on the part of ms who are keeping tabs on what kinds of documents people are creating and uploading and what kind of content is in them. there is probably a building full of pajeets who get paid to read through a random selection of people's documents all day long and have to rate and categorize them

then again they are probably doing it the google way and training computers to do this job

kind of like the captcha i just filled out

>>59847979
Theres a lot of cases where it is necessary yeh. If thats the case, or its ai looking through it, I dont have a problem with it.
I think pretty much every company that has a fairly large user base are using ai to sift through everything thats uploaded, people take more time and cost more money.

>>59846907
the standard "50 gigs for 2 bucks a month" plan is a lot more suited for my needs.

>>why don't you buy an external HDD, you dumb anon?
I mostly use it to auto-upload the crapton of photos and videos I take with my phone.

>>muh google photos!!!
well, at least that datamine is free, and at least they don't deny using all my pics for their machine learning projects, so that's an option as well.

>>iCloud all the way, all hail Apple!
Same as Microsoft, really. It even runs on Azure ffs.

>>59846979
Why would you upload your data for storage unencrypted?

>>59846907
>buy 2 x 1TB drives every year
>or have 1TB vapor storage

Thats a tough call

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>Buy WD mycloud 8tb
>8TB of data that I can access over the internet
>I own the drive its own and it's stored in my house
>One time payment of $300

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>files manager is adware
DROPPED

Obviously they don't allocate 1 TB per user. If everyone filled that shit up completely, the service will stop working.

>>59849923
That's not even what drives me nuts the most about that image. It's the "toolbar". What a random unorganized piece of shit. Manage? What the fuck does that even mean, let alone do? So much bullshit. Win10 seriously makes linux cli look way fucking easier than hunting down a shit ton of different menus to change settings that aren't even persistant. From Win2K (my personal favorite) to this...

>>59847621
>This board needs to be deleted

The first step is to delete yourself. Think about it.

>Ads in your os

>>59847621
the only people here who aren't NEET are smelly old "IT guys" who thought they found the gravy train with muh physical media and muh basement servers

now they're mad that progress happened, and they're busy screeching autistically about the cloud is a scam, and pajeet took er JERRBS

>Paying to store your data on an NSA server

C'mon dude

>>59850036
>That's not even what drives me nuts the most about that image. It's the "toolbar".

I know what you mean mang. The ridiculousness of it is that they greatly simplify their UI aesthetic by going flat, but then make the whole thing so fucking god awful by making it cluttered to all hell. As much as I hate GNOME, at least it looks presentable and good in photos.

>>59846907
>what is internet and bandwidth fees

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>>59846907
To be honest, I'm surprised how many people have moved to Windows 10. It's pure shit.

>>59851948
It's free and still supported.

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>>59851980
>free
Agree to sign over all your data to me and I would give you a free OS too. Not to mention it's no longer free anyway.

>>59846907
per month for storage on someone elses hardware

Jesus fucking christ the shills on this website...

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>>59846907
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>>59846907
Buy a physical drive, expected price is $1.25/month
This is spinning rust with expected life of 4 years, $60
Spinning rust is still faster uploading and downloading from the "cloud" off of a wifi or even ethernet connection

A 1 TB external hard drive costs between $50 and $75. Assuming we pay on the higher end of the spectrum, buying an external over using the cloud would pay for itself after just 11 months. If we consider the value of your time for not having to wait for your files to be transferred over the network (USB 3.0 isn't that great, but it's a hell of a lot faster than sending a file from across the fucking country), it might pay for itself a bit before that.

And if you want to share files with people, there are plenty of temporary file storage websites that are free. You don't need to keep something on someone else's computer all the damn time. Local is good.

>>59846907

(((pajeet))) please go

fucking microsoft shill.

>>59846907
> Literally paying a company to sell your data when they're already doing it for free

>>59847099
You're the type who prefers people watching you when you eat, sleep, watch movies, having a date, driving, and maybe shitting and fucking.

Is this how the term exhibitionist comes from ?

>>59847621
>>59850891
Yes sir very good post my sir

Microsoft very good very good trial period for free keep data secure.

I help you sir only very cheap. Barely no money sir. Microsoft very good sir. You no beat Microsoft very good sir.

A 1TB drive is like 40 smackaroonies.

I mean, how many pdfs and mp3s are you going to put "in the cloud", really. Plus you are also paying half your anus in data plans to retrieve your fucking remote content in your shitty smartphone.

>>59846907
>$6.99 is a phenomenal price for 1 TB
No it isn't. Free is all I'm prepared to pay for any internets beyond ISP.

Amazon cloud drive is unlimited and cheaper

>>59847796
Google did it first

>>59849527
why would you pay for 50gb when you can get that for free with mega and others?

>>59852826
Why isn't there more mention of this I the thread?

It's probably the cheapest option here that ensures privacy.

>>59847223

>2017
>his phone can't plug 1TB hard drive
>using cuck phone
KYS

The best deal is the family plan. 5TB for €90 a year.

>>59846937
with full office 365

>>59846907
84$/year when you could just use pirated office and chink cloud with 10TB free

>>59849805
expensive, use regular+ onecloud

>>59847558
>what is email?

>>59846907
Or you could get a 1 TB hard drive for $50 and break even after 7 months.

>>59846907

>I'm pleased because the NSA subsidise some of the cost of my hosting my shit with them

>>59847728
You certainly have professional and legal obligations to.

>>59847728
you're*

And also no one has any obligations to keep shit private, including companies.

There exists a law in the US that if 4 people are in a car, and one leaves to rob a store, all 4 people are culpable of the crime that one person committed. It's guilty by association.

Hence, Microsoft has the right to at least check for CP and Malware, lest they become complicit in the CP/malware trading.

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who /groove/ here lmao

1 TB is A LOT of storage especially for the cloud. I had Dropbox Pro or whatever but canceled because there was too much storage.

1 TB... I suppose that's easy to fill with video games but this is cloud. Maybe if you're a designer? No clue.

Everything I own isn't even 1 TB. Years of pictures is only 100 GB for me.

>>59846907
Why would you pay to have them sell your data and statistics?
They should be paying you instead. I'm serious, I'm surprised there aren't companies doing it already.

>>59847099
I invite you to store all your data on my personal server. The same terms and conditions apply.

I didn't think so.

>>59846937

/thread

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>>59847106
>mfw they now can legally auction your data if you miss your payment like in storage wars

>>59856589
Adds zero value.

>>59846907
it's 70 USD per year with 365, so that's a better value than your "deal"
honestly though, if you're storing 1TB for remote access, get a home server

for $84 you can buy how many 1TB HDDs? 3? 4?

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>>59846907
>monthly fee for using someone else's storage over the internet

>>59846907

wait wait wait, it comes with fucking word, excel, and powerpoint?

that's actually a good deal.

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>>59846907
>renting out some guy's hard drive for $7 a month is cheap

>>59846907

Assuming you get a 1TB HDD for $50, it pays itself off in just over half a year.

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>>59847116
>Backblaze
enjoy your 50kbps back rate

>>59846907
for 60$/y you can get unlimited

>>59846907
My 2Tb USB drive costed less than a year price of this. This is retarded.

>>59846979
>unencrypted

What did he mean by this?

>>59863171
meaning files sent as is and are readable by microshill on their servers.