Ryzen 5 gonna be released today, which model has best price/performance

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>>59833525

Probably the R5 1600.

>>59833525
1600

>>59833525
1600 goat CPU
good luck getting a motherboard though

can't see it listed anywhere for preorder, guarentee its sold out for weeks

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Seriously though, the 1400

The only two acceptable choices from the ryzen line up are 1600 and 1700.

>>59833538
A socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear.

>>59833686
>4 corelet

Nah
The 6 core is only $50 more and can OC the same.

>>59833686
stupid tripshill

>>59833686
>98% CPU usage
I'll get the 6 core, no thanks.

>>59833866
on a high end video card

>>59833922
480 is highend? Maybe the Fermi one in 2010.

>>59833866
Holy fuck this, I'm not closing my browser, IM/email client, IRC or some video just so I can run a shitty game.

>>59833825
hmmmm, good point

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add moar corez durrr

1600 will have THREE TIMES more threads than an i5

let that sink in

>>59834004
FINE, I take back what I said. The 1600 is a better purchase.

>>59834012
*huffs paint while saying that*

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>>59834004
When will people realize this?
At least someone is finally doing game benches outside of sterile setups, some game performance literally tanks because background shit is running.

>>59834013
and they are all slow as molasses

>>59834021
better than the jenkem you poos huff

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>>59834012
It's okay when Intel does it?

>>59834033
ryzen architecture has a very formidable single core performance

>>59833525
>which model has best price/performance ratio
None of them. Get a 7600k instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWLX4x1QdY

>>59834050
For that mad 10% gainz in 720p low settings gayming? I'd rather choose +50% multicore performance thank you very much.

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>>59834035
yes intel does chip design well. not some weird server workstation game chip hybrid POS

>>59834041
about as formidable as Tonya Harding's kneecap

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>>59834035
>Over 200 jiggawatts

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>>59834041
>ryzen architecture has a very formidable single core performance

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>>59833686
nice sauce, tripfag

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>>59834077
>+50% multicore performance
Except that's already been proven to matter little in most applications.

>>59834078
>intel does chip design well.
8 core at platform idle that uses more power than a loaded competitor 8 core?

Great design, perfect for pork shoulders.

>>59834127
well gee, maybe because we didn't have affordable cpu with >8 threads before ryzen so developers didn't optimize for it? who would've thought???

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>>59833525
Whatever it is, hope the benchmarks aren't running older EFIs

>>59833525
1600.

When you factor in the cost of the entire build, which you should, the 1700 is the most efficient.

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>>59834163
dlete this good sire pls delete

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>>59834035
>dem TDPs

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>>59834159
>Just wait™

Non X chips if you're planning on overclocking, the X chips if you're not.
Do note that you can OC just fine on a $90 board, some even have 8 phases at that price.
So unless you're allergic to overclocking, I don't see why you shouldn't, even at stock voltages you can some 200MHz out of it.

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>>59834194
what wait?

>>59834208
Didn't you hear that 720p doesn't matter now?

>>59833525
Umm... It's actually still 4/10. You're a day early.

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>>59834227
True

>>59834208
>no clock and ram speeds
>720p
Here's your (you).

>>59834242
It's 4 hours 22 minutes past midnight you fat bastard.

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>>59834208
Get fucked.

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>>59834246
oh sorry, here

>>59834127
>Day one benchmarks

Try harder, shill.

>>59834246
Stock CPU, and this particular test wasn't a CPU comparison, but a GPU one to see if AMD gets higher performance from its own GPU

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>>59834249
Check again sweety.

>>59834246

you know why is 720p bench used right?

>>59834163
Shilltel literally on suicide watch, an EFI update literally brought more for AMD's IPC than 3 gens of Intel GPUs.

A 25% decrease in a DRAM latency is insane, that's not even mentioning the much lower cache latencies and higher cache bandwidth.

>>59834267
>pajeet MindBlank Tech
>muh memory speeds
Already disproved by HardwareUnboxed. Even with faster ram Ryzen still severely lags behind Intel's high-end offerings.

>>59834265
another massive disappointment

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>buying poozen

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>>59833525
>Ryzen 5
You have to be utterly fucking retarded to even consider buying one.

>buying shitell

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Well beside playing gaymen for manchildren the R5 1600 is still gonna be amazing for things like HEVC video encoding. Like ~22 FPS for 1080p encoding which is still nice

>inb4 someone tells me dogshit hw encoding should be done instead

>>59834243
4k causes the GPU to become the bottleneck instead of the CPU.

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>>59834320
Whoah there goes nvidia again with that power saving thing. Trying to save the planet and all. :^)

>>59834348
Realistically, you're always GPU bottlenecked unless we're all 360noscope "professional" CSGO players.
I mean maybe there are retards out there that run $400-1000 CPUs on a 1080p monitor

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>>59834338
Same I'd rather have half the fps of a 7700k on Warhammer so long as I compile gentoo faster.

>>59834384
>6800k near a 2700k

Is this the ENTERPRISE way to code?

>>59834163
Is this for real? DAMN.

>>59834408
It's literally spaghetti, on top of that it's DX12 on a Nvidia card, the game which nobody even plays but benchmarks everywhere (like AoTS) got a patch too for whatever reason.

I mean do people even play the games anymore or just run the built in benches?

>>59834429
Steam puts Warhammer at 10k players at peak times, so no, nobody plays it.

>>59834163
When was this bios update released?

>>59834242
>4/10
Puting month before day, fucken amerlards

>>59834381
I have a 1090t and RX470.

I am definitely CPU bottlenecked at 1080p in lots of games that don't thread well. CSGO included.

>>59834473
Gigabyte dev released it on forum, the official one on the site should be out in 2 days.

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=18374.0

>>59834518
>I'm CPU bottlenecked
>7 year old CPU

No, really?

>>59834542
Obviously, but the point is that claiming that CPU bottlenecks don't exist is an obvious fallacy.

>>59833686
>i5 7400

why?

>>59833686

No reason to buy Intel housefire failures.

>>59834163
Fake news

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>>59834163
DELET DIS, GOY

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>>59834650
f-fake n-news

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>>59834163
>AMD's IMC is not competitive

But that won't matter because launch day benchmarks are all that matter

>muh day one benchmarks

gee Intel really is worried should I be worried I do own a 6700k after all.

:(

>>59834163
>confusing a software update from AIDA with a BIOS update

literally kys retard

>>59834726
The software revision is in the fucking test output you smelly nitrogen sniffing kike cancerbag.

>>59834726
>>59834749
Intelfags are the most retarded people in the entire universe.

>>59834764
That's harsh.

>>59834637
>intel releases one processor that's hot yet easily fixed
>AMD processors for the past 5 years overheating excluding Ryzen
>FUCKING INTEL HOUSEFIRE M I RIGHT XD

>>59834764
Why do you care so much what processor people buy
grow up

>>59834793
Difference is AMD hasn't released a CPU new architecture since 2012.
While Intel will continue their housefire trend until 2021, as indicated in their own roadmaps.

>>59834793
Living in the past, surrounded by day 1 benchmarks on BSODing ASUS boards?

Ah, the good old days, when AMD wasn't cleaning Intel's clock in literally every measurable engineering feat.

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>>59834821
>skylake wasn't even close to being a housefire
>kabylake was though
>so this means all intel releases for the next 4 years will be

>>59833538
that algorithm must be trash

Look how it barely manages to catch it

>>59834856
its just a meme who gives a fuck
get over it

the housefire joke with gpu's seem to alternate every year with nvidia and amd
who cares

>>59834856
If their architecture stays the same(Intel's own roadmap) how will they increase performance outside of clockspeed, which naturally means a quadratically increase in voltage, ergo housefires. You're smart, think about this for a minute.

>>59834295
shills still at it
Even going 2933mhz to 3200mhz gets 7.5% increase in frames on ashes rofl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G80uG3acg44
Fuck off to /v/ retard

>>59834877
What if Intel comes out with something amazing in a year?

>>59835042
Something amazing being the canceled Cannonlake-EX? Skylake refresh followed by a Skylake dieshrink?
What if you stop dreaming?


Intel has started hiring people 2 months ago for a new x86 arch they say won't be ready until 2021 at best, Zen took 4-5 years from whiteboard to shops, and Intel doesn't even have people ready yet.

>>59835040
>Paul's Hardware

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>>59834292
>EFI update literally brought more for AMD's IPC than 3 gens of Intel GPUs

W-WAIT FOR 7740K

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>>59835111
>>59835111
b-b-b-but 1400 performs worse

>>59834793
Kill yourself.

>>59835111
I got my fire extinguisher ready, I hope I don't have to delid this one too..

>>59835124
It'll come with industrial solder but you'll have to pay $50* more :)


*Motherboard costs not included

>>59835111
Doesn't the 7740K require a new socket?

>>59835214
Yes
>LGA 2066

>>59835229
Jesus fucking Christ.

>>59835240
not only that, it's quad channel CPU, so this is probably enthusiast CPU that will cost a pretty penny.

>>59835229
I honestly thought it was just a joke. Dam.

does it come out at mightnight?

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>>59834856
>6900k's power consumption at idle is closer to the 1700's load power consumption than its load one

Enjoy your space heater.

>>59835298
Holy fuck those idle numbers are insane, even less than the 4C/4T corelets.

I can't wait for Raven Ridge.

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>>59834384

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i'm sick of waiting for ryzen

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>>59835298

>>59834163
F5 BIOS hasn't even released yet, at least officially and Gigabyte is already readying a F6 one.

What a time to be alive, imagine pulling out another magic trick like 25% DRAM latency reduction? Heck, even 1/4 of that would be amazing.

>>59835413
No Ryzen comparisons? We already know a OCd delidlake can be used a thermonuclear device.

>>59835122
Incredible comeback

ryzen 3 when

>>59833525
All you have to do is wait 1 more day for all the regurtitating "tech" youtube label readers who think doing the same benchmark as someone else means they know what they are talking about.

>>59834024

Is there more of this? And what about comparing varied number of cores?

1500x should be 200€ not 230€.

everyone will buy 1600, it's just that good for value

>>59837923
don't know, 219+cooler vs 249 no cooler
seriously though, the heck was AMD thinking?
I'd pay extra just to have cooler in box, AM4 coolers are hard to find now

>>59838314
both 1500x and 1600 have coolers included

it's 1600x which doesn't have a cooler

>>59833525
Are any of the Ryzen5 gonna be as good as lets say a 7700k?

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>>59838324
I'm starting to reconsider the 1700 because of the no cooler thing.

a full build including a mobo, ram, cooler and CPU would cost me 550 for the 1700 and 530 for the 1600x.

Does thermal paste even come with either of these cpu's?

The R5 1600 is €60 more expensive than the R5 1400 and they have the same perfomance in 95% of applications because more than 4 cores are pointless. So the best value is clearly the R5 1400.

https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-5-1400-yd1400bbaebox-a1604876.html
https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-5-1600-yd1600bbaebox-a1604879.html

>>59838396
More cores = more multtasking son.

>>59838393
>Does thermal paste even come with either of these cpu's?
other than pre-applied thermalpaste on r7 1700 cooler, no

When are people going to release reviews ? Are the current ones legit ?

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Is the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK a good Mobo choice?

I'm not very informed on the latest motherboards.

>>59838439
When the NDA lifts.

>not available in my country for at least a month, likely more
Being a small, but rich country isn't always great.

>>59838452
>NDA
did they gave an hour ?

>>59838480
Thats under the NDA. Will probably be in a few hours.

>>59835399
Same, I might go with an i7 after all.

Where the hell is this thing. I've been waiting all day. It said 11th April worldwide

More like the 12th of April, "after we've had lunch and when we feel like getting to that"

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>>59838621

Moar liek fallyn

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>>59838645
Ayy

>>59838621
right, 1:23am here, stayed up all night for juicy benchmarks and got fucking crickets.

11h30 here, and I heard it's coming at 15h, so 3h30

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20170411T09&p0=179&msg=%28Probably%29+R5+NDA+lift&font=sanserif&csz=1

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>>59833525
I'm more concerned about the motherboard selection. Only a good handful of them worth using and there's also no mITX board out yet. Pic related was getting shown around a lot when Ryzen was first revealed but it's still MIA after all this time.

>>59838396

I open a lot of stuff in the background during my gaming session.
If you don't do anything beside gaming then 1400 is perfect for you.
But still even a browser sometime is a bitch if you got a lot of tabs open.

>intel shits out yet another fucking chipset
>amd makes some kind of unholy workstation/consumer CPU that heavily relies on RAM speeds
I swear, I'm going to fucking die with my dual xeon setup and never going to upgrade

http://www.christianpost.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-news-details-ryzen-5-1600-outperforms-intel-core-i7-7700k-but-not-in-gaming-179858/

spoiler : with dx11

>>59838840
>But not in gaming.

Gaming is the cancer upon which computing will die.

>>59838860
Game programming used to be great back in the days. Now it's just shitty ports. Oh well. Times change.

>>59838840
>http://www.christianpost.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-news-details-ryzen-5-1600-outperforms-intel-core-i7-7700k-but-not-in-gaming-179858/

>christianpost

Gods chosen processor.

should I upgrade my i5-4460 to poozen 1600
for gaymen mostly

>>59838875
No. Also fuck off to /v/.

>>59838840
>shitty site
>claims with no facts


Ok, it seems that all AMDtards are mentally deranged people.

>>59838860
probably just /g/

>>59833525

What is the best b350 mobo right now? Don't recommend me tiny mATX shit because I'm not a homossexual.

>>59838882
no since this isn't /v/

>>59838871
I'm just speaking from a consumers perspective. The older i get, the less i game.

I predicted that CPU's and GPU's would skyrocket in price due to lazy coders, and i was right. So, a stable 60fps on high settings for most games is all i require. And that's like, minimum 600 bucks CPU/GPU combination here in Australia.

I've held off from building a new PC for the Ryzens for this reason alone.

Fucking autism, all of it.

>>59838872
God bless canada

>>59838883
How does one post -verified facts- on the internet?

>>59838871
>shitty ports

>consoles that uses AMD hardware with many cores

>somehow the port sucks for AMD CPUs with many cores on the PC

Really rustles your neurons

>>59838393
wth how can u make such a cheap build for 1700

>>59838980
By being a reputable hardwaresite.

Fuck off, you AMD retards are most probably dumber than the average MLP guy.

>Mother Outraged After Daughter's Injected With Birth Control Implant on School Trip
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/mom-angry-daughters-injected-birth-control-implant-school-sex-ed-trip-clinic-179597/#z86CuiPQxBtMs5JK.99

Yes, thank you christianpost, now I have become a firm believer.

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Where were you when Intel was kill?

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4 more hours until you AMD drones get your anus raped once again.

I can already predict the excuses being made.

>it's new, and not optimized yet!
>it's Intel's fault!
>but muh multithread Cinebench!
>it's not using 3600Mhz DDR4 ram!
>j-just wait!

>>59838916
>I predicted that CPU's and GPU's would skyrocket in price due to lazy coders, and i was right
That reminds me that a few years ago groups of mod creators would start disassembling games in order to make them run multi-cored and even run efficiently on dual CPUs.
Hell, I still have their modification for Tera and holy shit is it fucking amazing.

What's the point of the Ryzen 5 CPUs if I could just buy a used i7-3820 for less than half the price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-3820-3-6GHZ-10M-Quad-Core-Socket-2011-CPU-Processor-SR0LD-/282406873017

>>59839077
>non-k
Gee I wonder, probably because R5 is faster by default?

>>59834631
>i5 7400
>why?
Because it's the most similarly priced ???

>i5-7400
$189
>R5 1400
>$152

>>59839092
>R5 1400
>$152
You wish. The cheapest is €195.88 (+€5.90 shipping)
https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-5-1400-yd1400bbaebox-a1604876.html

Why doesn't Newegg have any of the R5s?

WHERE IS MY R5? WHY DOESNT IT SHOW UP ON AMAZON?

YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE R5 AMD WHERE IS IT REEEEE

>>59839125
I'm sorry your country isn't free.
You can get them for $150-$152 in America.

>>59839135
cuz it's 6:38AM EST.

>https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/test_procesora_amd_ryzen_5_1400_konkurent_intel_core_i5_7400

Kek, AMDrones on suicide watch.

>>59839221
>I'm sorry your country isn't free.

Says the country which beats up their customer who paid for his ticket.

Dumb nut

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>>59833525
Looks to me like the 1600 is a good choice, the price difference between that and the next 65W CPU (Ryzen 7 1700) is pretty big.

For really budget builds 1400 or some Intel CPU is probably a good choice. Compared to the 1500X the 1600 isn't that much more expensive.

I personally don't even look at 95W CPUs though since I really like having the CPU fanless (trick is to use a heatsink rated at 140W TDP or more).

Overall, though, I'm kind of disappointed that AMD isn't really being very aggressive with their prices. They seem to be priced the same as Intel's I5's so the difference is two extra cores and lower IPC and clock speed.

>>59833674
>good luck getting a motherboard though
Plenty of motherboards available for AM4 everywhere so that's not an issue.

>>59834013
>1600 will have THREE TIMES more threads than an i5
Let's just be honest, the amount of threads mean absolutely nothing. What it does have is 2 more cores.

>>59839251
>I'm kind of disappointed that AMD isn't really being very aggressive with their prices.

Who would have thought that?
AMD is a profit orientated company, W-O-W, surprise.

AMD is only cheaper for specific tasks, in this case if you run stuff that really requires more than 4 cores.

The 8 cores for the average user is totally useless.

>>59839251
Ryzen is 700 340$ here and 600 240$

Would 600 still handle stream,music,browser and game at once?

>>59839251

>Plenty of motherboards available for AM4 everywhere

How about a good one?

>>59839295
MSI B350 PC MATE for 88$ looks really good

>>59839295
The mainboard manufactures won't release new boards until AMD has fixed their shit.

It would only cause more trouble and more work if they release new motherboards now.

>>59839273
>intel user actually thinks the average user would spend over $300 on a cpu
What have they done to you anon?

>>59839318

>4 sata slots
>really good

lol

>>59839273
AMD doesn't change the socket every couple years so in both the short term and long term AMD is cheaper.

Should I get a ryzen (5 1600 or 7 1700x) or an i7 7700k if I'm going to be using my computer primarily for software? Adobe products are apparently lightly threaded, so the 7700k would be better I think

>>59839237
>i5-6400
>faster than a i7-3770k
>in fucking battlefield 1
lmao okay poland

>>59835378
What the flying f**k kind of metric are they measuring there?

I mean.. compile time for the Linux kernel is a nice thing to measure..

..but compiles per hour? "Gee, look at me, I compiled the kernel 7 times this hour! Am I cool or what?". It would make more sense to compare something that takes a bit longer like gcc if they want more data.

>>59838396
>more than 4 cores are pointless
No, it's not pointless, everything that is CPU intensive will (ab)use all available cores. If I encode a video with ffmpeg then all cores light up at 100% until it's done. The same with compiling and everything else that's demanding.

>>59838402
>More cores = more multtasking son.
Faster single-tasking too. Encoding a video is just 1 task that does tax all cores at 100% until it's done.

>>59838439
>When are people going to release reviews ? Are the current ones legit ?
There are already reviews out there and they are absolutely legit.

There are those who are sent "review kits" from AMD. These people are shills under NDAs who can't give you their biased opinion until the NDA lifts. There are other people who have simply walked into stores that already have Ryzen and bought them. These people are free to do what they want with their CPUs and these are the people who have given us the honest Ryzen 5 reviews that's been out for a week or so.

>>59839251
>Plenty of motherboards available for AM4 everywhere so that's not an issue.
Right now..
I bet by tonight more will be out of stock.

>>59839415
It's not all adobe products. Just pretty much Lightroom and Photoshop.

And though the 7700k single threaded is better, I don't think you'll notice it compared to the improved multitasking.

>>59839418
We should have nuked Poland instead of Japan imo

>>59833674
they must be holding back production for muh bios update.

>>59839077
> i7-3820
> 130 W TDP
That TDP is a big drawback. That being said.. that is a pretty powerful CPU for the price.

>>59839221
>You can get them for $150-$152 in America.
Don't care, I'm in the fascist union so only EUR prices matter.

>>59839292
>Would 600 still handle stream,music,browser and game at once?
It would probably struggle. Music, browser and

gaming at once is something any CPU can do. It's when you want to stream that you really run into problems if you want a _high_ quality stream. Video encoding is very CPU-intensive so your average last generation CPU will struggle with just this task.

One obvious alternative to a high quality stream is to simply use the GPU and send a medium quality stream out and then it doesn't matter that much what CPU you get since the GPU has dedicated ASIC parts for h264. If you compare a CPU and a GPU encoded h264 stream side by side then you'll be able to tell the difference but it's not like the GPU-encoded stream is really bad or anything, it's just not the very high quality CPU-encoding can give you.

>>59834050
>shit songs playing on his slide show

>>59834078
>gpu die size is larger than cpu
huehuehue

>>59834050
>Battlefield 1: -13%
>FarCry Primal: -9%
>Ghost Recon: -5%
>Mafia III: +10%
Not bad. Looks like an overclocked 1600 would be pretty good at gaming.

>>59839318
>MSI B350 PC MATE
1) doesn't even have SPDIF.
2) Just 4 SATA connectors
3) ALC892 audio chip

You obviously don't want this motherboard. Or perhaps you do at $88.

The audio chip you do want for this generation is ALC1220 not ALC892 like it's 2010. My current FM2+ system has ACl1150 and the motherboard wasn't that expensive. It's obvious that MSI cut all the corners on that board you're looking at.

>>59839409
>AMD doesn't change the socket every couple years so in both the short term and long term AMD is cheaper.
This is a totally bullshit argument and you know it. You'll buy the motherboard and the CPU and put that together and 99.9% of users will keep that until it's time to replace everything anyway.

Are you trying to tell me that I can put a new Ryzen CPU on my AM3 motherboard? Or my FM2+ motherboard? Can I do that? No, I can't do that because those platforms are outdated DDR3 systems.

Face it, there is no point in spewing out the fact that they keep outdated garbage around for a long time as a good thing.

AM3+ doesn't even have USB3. Nobody with a AM3+ motherboard is sitting there thinking "gee, should I replace my CPU with a new AM3+ CPU?".

>>59838860
Gaming is why we have the whole Deep Learning thing you know.

>>59839648
The average user wants to spend as little money as possible. AMD plans to keep AM4 around until 2020. After that we will probably see AM4+ on which AM4 cpus will still work. Just because kikes have conditioned you to upgrade everything each time does not mean everyone will want to.

>>59834265
i am so fucking disappointed, the difference from the 6900 is literally 7 FPS. SEVEN FUCKING FPS, THAT MAKES THE GAME LITERALLY A SLIDE SHOW.
#AMDbankrupt
#AMDronesrekt
#ImWithIntel

>>59839010
$320 CPU (125W cooler included)
$90 mobo
$140 RAM (3200mhz I think)

>>59839648
>>59839390
>just 4 SATA connectors
what are you looking to make here, a fucking raid server?

>>59839708
Digital hoarder syndrome + turboautismo

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>>59834295
intelfags are worse than flatearthers at this point. no amount of evidence will convince them that their housefire-new-socket-ever-year shitshow of a CPU is inferior to AMD at this point.

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>>59839677
You obviously don't get it, I suspect that you can't.

>kikes have conditioned you to upgrade everything each time

I had the Athlon XP. It used DDR RAM. The Phenom II and AM3 was hot when it was time to upgrade so I bought a new CPU, new motherboard and new RAM.

You may or may not be aware of this but DDR ram does not work on a DDR3 motherboard. A AM3 CPU simply does not work on a AM1 motherboard.

The Ryzen CPU series will not work on an AM3 motherboard, nor will DDR3.

DDR4 and the AM4 socket will be outdated by the time it's worth upgrading from a current Ryzen CPU to the next generation.

Now I've explained it in a simple way a 5 year old can understand in two posts. If you still don't get it then you are a complete moron who's brain isn't functioning properly.

>>59834355
DELET

>>59839720
lmao'ing at "delid this", never noticed that part of the meme

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>>59839722
Outdated does not mean bad shill.

>>59839409
Great

But there aren't many mainboards to choose from, especially for µATX and MiniITX.
You have to buy a shit board so you can switch to a decent one later on.

>>59839720
Funny how you AMDdrumpfs get butthurt over every major reviewer saying Ryzen is worse than Intel in games so you have some literally whos make some alternative facts benchmarks to shill for AMD and accuse others of being flat earthers.

>>59839722
How fucking stupid are you?
That's like complaining you can't use a fucking PCI-E GPU on a PCI or a fucking 200W PSU when your new build requires more than 200W.
The difference between the AM changes and the Intel changes is that there's AM to AM4, while there's fucking 1 bazillion different chipsets for specific groups of Intel CPUs.

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>>59839762
>every major reviewer
you mean those that were paid by Intel to promote their products?

>>59839720
Nah, the 7700k still stands superior.

I think it is rather amusing how some AMDrones make claims that even AMD haven't done and even denied.

>>59839775
>Mainstream reviews are fake news
t. AMDdrumpf

>>59839775
>let's rather believe in some shills on YT

Low IQ

>>59839755
Why do people act like DDR5 is going to change everything when in all likelihood it be yet another unnoticeable improvement over it's predecessor?

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>>59839023
Wait for 7740K

>>59839077
>pootel

Into the trash.

>>59839787

t. (((Shintel)))

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>>59839787
>>59839791

>>59839010
I've got a lot of parts already in my existing PC. i'm not starting from scratch.

>>59839775
>A SOCKET CHANGE A YEAR KEEPS THE GOYIM IN FEAR
my sides

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>>59835111
>7740K
>4c/8t
>112W TDP

>7640K
>4c/4t
>112W TDP

>>59839237
>being a clinically retarded 3rd world Intelfag shitter

>>59839237
>.pl
don't you have some English toilets to clean? Oh wait, you can't do that anymore because Brexit. How much does Intel pay you to shill for them?

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The amount of damage control and disinfo I've seen about the latest AMD products has told me all I need to know about what they really mean for the market.

Intel and Nvidia are sweating, scared of the competition, and their fanboys are in an absolute meltdown as their emotional investment in a corporation is starting to see it's foundations shaken.

Thank you based 4chan, I'll be buying stock in AMD for the foreseeable future.

>>59839846
>>59839859

>typical AMDrone being buttblasted throwing tantrums trying to distract from results

>>59839880
What results? You mean those that were there on day 1 before the BIOS update?

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>>59839830
>Intel marketing putting their products in a good light like every other company in the world means mainstream benchmarks are faked

>>59839863
>Nvidia
>being scared of AMD

I really want to have those drugs AMDrones are taking.
They seem to be very powerful.

>>59839902
>>59839904
here is 3 shekels for your efforts

>>59839904
The year old Radeon Pro Duo is still equal to the new $1200 Titan Xp even in an Nvidia Gameworks game like GR Wildlands.

All Nvidia has going for it is marketing.

>>59839722
AM2 CPUs would works on AM2/AM3 mobos though. The only reason there is no AM3/AM4 mobo is because ryzen does not support ddr3. Do you even have any idea what you are talking about?

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>>59839720
Intelfags are the most braindead dirt in the entire universe, news at 11.

http://imgur.com/a/j0Uq6

>>59839929
So funny. I love how AMDrones accuse others of not wanting to face reality but at the same time sit in their own bubble of bullshit where any information that doesn't say AMD is the best ever at everything is disregarded as shilling because obviously you know better than everyone else.

>>59839934

Link the site

>>59839880
Whatever you say, Pooland.

Any recommendations on mobos suitable for high ram speeds?

>>59839951
ok

>>59839958
>currytech

>>59833525
is there anything from amd i should consider over pentium g4560? Building a tight budget pc for one old faggot

>>59839787
t. Feminist Frequency

when does the embargo lift?

>>59840072
wait for r5 1400.

>>59840072
If it's for an older relative, a G4560 will do fine.
Fuck, even an FM2 Athlon will be plenty. And they're not bad little chips either.

>>59840072
>consinder
R5 1400 4c/8t should be cheap enough, dont let him buy a fucking 2c/4t CPU in [current year]

polaris refresh will bring a low budget card ( rx550/560), watch reviews and compare to other low budget cards like 1050/1050ti/rx 470 4gb

dont get bothered by Intelaviv vs AyyyyMD fanboism and buy best bang for buck.

>>59835399
go buy it now.

>>59839974
Taichi?

>>59840100
I heard in 30 minutes, maybe it will be later. AMD are fucking retarded for not providing any information about it.

>>59840072
athlon 860k

Will ryzen 5 will work with old bios?

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>>59840175
thank god, have been holding on to my money for a new build for forever

>tfw X2 555 and GTX 460

Should I get a ryzen 1600 or a 1700 if I use my computer mostly to porn and 4chan?

>>59840228

VR porn?

>>59840072
>tight budget pc for one old faggot

Just slap the Pentium in, keep the igpu and be done with it. Recently I built a living room pc for my parents, just for some facebook and watch the sports channel. All I did was a Celeron G1840 with its puny igpu, but slapped some spare 8gb of ram and a 120gb ssd I had laying around. The thing flies for these tasks.

>>59840228
literally get an ipad or samshit tab 10.1 or teclast x98.

>>59839813
because heavy load applications are already ram limited, games are the most prominent example of this where faster ram can be better then overclocking in a number of games.

you got a few bottlenecks right now

1) compression, this makes nvme almost useless as sata functionally preforms the same as nvme because you have to decompress the data and that speed is overall limited to 300-500mb read, otherwise you would see nvme drives out perform sata by factors of almost 10, and you don't.

2) ram speed itself feeding the cpu. not to mention ddr5 should also be higher density too so once in production 32gb would cost the same as 16gb.

3) the processor itself, especially at lower resolutions, this is the next bottleneck, whether it be io, or just not having the brute force to go faster,

4) with games the gpu at higher resolutions, at lower ones we force cpu bottlenecks currently.

>>59840228
take a cheap CPU with a graphic chip, install a lightweight linux distribution with xfce and save money

>>59835256
thats the funny thing, its not
its on a quad channel motherboard, but is only dual channel so 4 of those ram slots are useless.

>>59834086
You are worse than a tripfag.

Please, you need to go back.

>>59839648
>SPDIF instead of HDMI
>Using mobo DACs

I just discarded your post.

>>59840110
>>59840129
>>59840136
>>59840190
>>59840241

thanks, /g/uys
did not expect for helpful answers actually
feels good

I gave him g1820 for now, which I had laying around, and only 4gb ram to go along with it (and an ssd) he's semi-satisfied

turns out he still plays some vidya (flatout and first Driver, imagine that) and uses some weird 2d media creation software for his job. Says that that software slugs a little. I think he's full of shit, because 2.7ghz is enough even for photoshop/inkscape.

>>59833525
There's so many day one benchmarks, random cherrypicked screenshots and statistics in this thread. Intel is shaking in their boots. Their shills are deseprately spamming threads. You can't stop the inevitable.

>>59839778
It's superior in single threaded applications by 25%. That is literally all they have left. They lose at everything else.

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/amd-ryzen-5-test/

Why are the Germans superior to the Polish?

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>>59840787
Linux confirmed best girl

>>59840805
7740k will destroy Ryzen!!!

>>59840666
inevitable = intel coming up with something that kills amd?
you do realize intel has 6x money, 6x market share, 6x employee count, etc?
their production facilities are much more advanced. They can make anything that amd makes and better

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housefires are back lads.

>>59841208
You think big companies just always existed?

There's always tiny little companies, who then come up with huge leaps in technology.
Often they can't quite keep themselves afloat though, so they get bought up by bigger companies.

>>59841208
>you do realize intel has 6x money, 6x market share, 6x employee count, etc?
And six times more pajeets instead of quality engineers.

>>59841216
>overclocked with stock cooler
oi vey!

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>50% more cores
twice
as
fast

>>59839077
>Hey this 2nd hand thing is cheaper than this new thing...

Your point?

>>59841216
Those 1500x temps are crazy good.

>>59839077
>socket 2011
might as well go dual xeons in that case

>>59840228
Buy a $200 chromebook?

>>59833525
I have a i5 3570k, what performance gains can I see from upgrading to Ryzen 5? I play games only occasionally but that would be the main reason for upgrade

>>59834265
>7fps difference
Oh no, whatever will I do? I'm sure on suicide watch now that I can't have 142fps on a 120HZ monitor.

>>59841216
remember, All "X" branded Ryzen products have a +20*C Temperature monitor offset as to provide finer control for XFR boosting.

>>59841564
They removed that with the latest version of AMD Ryzen master software

>>59841564
That's not the case anymore. It's just 1600@4ghz is hitting it's voltage wall thus getting HOT.

>>59841564
All Ryzens with 95W TDP have this offset, not all "X" branded (1500X doesn't).

>>59841216
woah that's very impressive, not really sure why you think this is bad
load on 4GHz OC 1500x on wraith spire = 58°c, wraith max 49°c
you won't reach those temps with intel cpu & cooler for sure

>>59841490
A 1600X would be well over twice as fast in some cases. But only slightly better in others.

If just gaming, eh, you may as well just get a 3770k and overclock it.

>>59841216
>64C overclocked on a $60 cooler
>housefire
what? No one buys your garbage.

>>59841243
and where is that huge leap in technology by amd?
slapping more cores? eveyone can do it, even smartphone manufacturer
did they come up with ddr5? or some groundbreaking optimisations? maybe something like intel sse4? no? anything?

>>59841289
yeah, company lead by pajeets would have quality engineers instead of more pajeets

Are any of these faggots besides anandtech going to do benchmarks with AMD GPUs?

It's known that Nvidia ones cause issues, and tons of people are going to get RX480s with these. Wtf.

>>59841824
>chink CEO
>murrican R&D department
The only pajeet there is Raja and the dude's making GPUs for so long you it doesn't count.

jesus, they're expensive

thinking ill be going to a dual xeon before I go to ryzen

>>59834603
Whenever people say 'cpu bottle necks don't exist' they mean on any relevant CPU.

>>59841581
>>59841583
It's still not removed.
Ryzen Master software is just made aware of the offset and shows the true value. Offset is still there to make sure OEMs don't have to make any fan curve adjustments and normies who don't touch the settings get the required cooling for their chips.

>>59841910
They exist when some other shit uses up CPU and locks up a thread that your gayme wanted to use.

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>>59841216
>housefire
>When your 4c/4t generates more heat than a 8c/16t
wew lad

>>59839023
>getting 1700x
>not getting 1700

I'm seeing a trend that's very concerning. It seems to correlate with the end result being 'retard'.

>>59841975
or the same, whatever.

A
MINOR
DISSAPOINTMENT

I notice a lot of shill reviewers are testing the i5-7400 on a Z270 board with 3200mhz memory which no one fucking actually builds.
They pair those with the B250 and are locked to 2400mhz memory.

Hardware Unboxed actually tested right, even though the new BIOS update meant only 2933mhz for Ryzen.
Hopefully in a week or 2 we'll see a significant improvement again since board manufacturers had to start over on some things with the microcode update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCHhn0xEmo

But Mafia III performance as dropped like 25% which is odd as fuck.

>>59843015
What would be the ultimate shill comparison?
A i7-7700+Z270 with DDR4-4000 versus a stock-clock R5-1400 with single-channel, single-sided DDR4-2133 and an $8 cooler?

>>59838916
>I predicted that CPU's and GPU's would skyrocket in price due to lazy coders, and i was right.
Graphical features that were new 9 years ago in games, that looked good and performed decently then(great today) are all absent today
Hardware is getting better, but instead of graphics getting better, or running smoother, the coders get to be more and more lazy in proportion.

>>59843015
>>59843097
The fact that they're using mobos that cost more than the CPUs they're benchmarking shows they're really desperate to shill for Intel. And with B350 boards half the price of a Z270 you STILL can OC any Ryzen CPU and use OC'd RAM.

>>59843616
Yeah.
What I REALLY wanted to see what similarly priced system benchmarks.

Put a 1600 OC'd to 3.9ghz with an RX480 against a 7500 with a 1060 and the AMD system will poop on it in DX12/Vulkan and just on average.
Not to mention the 1600 B350 system will support 3200mhz RAM vs 2400 for the intel one for around the same cost since the 1060 costs more.

>>59843616
>The fact that they're using mobos that cost more than the CPUs they're benchmarking
What? There are plenty of Z270 motherboards that cost under $200. Not only that, but you need to pay out the ass for a X370 motherboard that can support higher-than-DDR4-2666 RAM, so you're actually paying more for the AMD system just for the motherboard itself.
And no, B350 doesn't work reliably with higher than 2800MHz RAM. Suck a dick, shill.

>>59843616
They even say shit like "the 7600k is more value at $10 cheaper".
Ignoring that it's 25% hotter, requires a 50% more expensive motherboard to get decent overclocks out of, etc.
Deluded shills.

>>59843791
>requires a 50% more expensive motherboard
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MR31OZ8/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WGS4FJL/?tag=pcpapi-20
It's the other way around, AyyMDrone

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>>59843785
Nice try, kike

>>59843837
See >>59843831
B T F O
T
F
O

>>59843867
What am I seeing? An expensive snakeoil motherboard? Intel doesn't have those?

There are $95 B350 motherboards with better power delivery than $160 Z270 motherboards, it's pathetic.

>>59843889
>$95 B350 motherboards with better power delivery
intothetrash.tiff
Those chokes they use for AM4 motherboards are not as high quality as the ones they use for ZX70 motherboards.
Also
>B350
>supporting higher than DDR4-2666MHz
top kek
eat shit moron

>>59843831
Nice job linking to boards with 4 phase VRMs that are only recommended for stock clocks, you dumb shill.

Just give up. You're not good at this technology thing. You're just making a fool of yourself.

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>>59843922

>>59843934
Pair an i5-7500 with that MSI motherboard and DDR4-3600 RAM ($350 at most) to beat a $700 R5 1600X + motherboard + DDR4-2666MHz RAM + a watercooling loop because of housefires

>>59839863
Next financials for AMD is may 1st and it's going to be a doozy.

They just bought up another company. AMD's got money again and the financials are going to look good. It's just a matter of how good at this point.

You're guaranteed to make money buying some AMD stock now and selling either just prior to may 1st or just after (depending on how you like to gamble)

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>>59833525

>>59843971
>Pair an i5-7500 with that MSI motherboard and DDR4-3600 RAM
I was with you up until that point.
Yes, I think it's reasonable to pair a cheap Z270 motherboard with a locked CPU purely because you can get 10% higher FPS with the better memory for cheaper than overclocks cost.
> R5 1600X + motherboard + DDR4-2666MHz RAM + a watercooling loop because of housefires
Then you lost me.
Ryzen has been well proven to be higher performance/watt than Delidlake.
And virtually every board can run at least 2933mhz. Often 3200. It's been that way for more than a week.

You're just an ignorant shill.

>>59844053
>And virtually every board can run at least 2933mhz. Often 3200
Quit lying. With all four memory slot occupied, you're still locked to the default 2666MHz frequency. With two, you're very fucking lucky if your motherboard and CPU support anything higher than 2800MHz, even after the updates.

>>59843972
>Next financials for AMD is may 1st and it's going to be a doozy.
Q2 financial will be more interesting, Ryzen launched near the end of Q1 and Ryzen 5 is only now.

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>>59844076
>With all four memory slot occupied
Aww, look. It's retarded.

>>59844028
kek

>>59841208
Just Wait(tm), amirite? Apparently you'll be just waiting for a long while because their new arch doesn't come out until 2019. And that's if it doesn't get delayed.

>>59846082
>Icelake
>new arch

It's still the bolted P6 core + uOP cache, their actual first new architecture (like Itanium was) is in 2021

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>>59846097
I'm confident my i7-7700K will still be relevant by then, right guys?

>>59846118
It's already pushing 100% utilization in games, so I have doubts for the next 2 years, much less 4-5.