/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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Kinda sorta want a 60% maybe kind of.

Is Poker 3 the only way for a memer to go or do I have to go full HHKB?

>>59831776
>1776 get
Also what is 60% plus F keys called?

there's some faggot t in my class who brings his cherry blue keyboard to lab all the time and gets everyone to look whenever he types. mech keyboards are like high heels for nerds

>>59831776
go full meme

>>59831812
75%? or TKL?

>>59831932
ew. that's like browsing 4chan in front of your coworkers.

looking for opinions on the Dell AT101W. They seem to be cheap on fleabay. Are they decent, or should I save my shekels for the IBM M?

>>59831932
smack him with your full size model f, if you dont have one youre the faggot.

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>>59831776
>Poker 3
worst waste of money i've bought

get something that you can actually program properly

>>59832283
1. yes
2. internet

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>>59831776
I'm loving my ikbc poker 2 for like 97 on amazon, comes with stock obtain keycaps

>>59832308
are those varmilo "miami"?

>>59832308
Pbt* how tf did my phone autocorrect it to obtain

so i have cherry green equivalents but i need something way stiffer. i essentially want my fingers to explode on each keypress, what do i buy yall?

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>>59832325
They are npkc Miami, but I got them cause they looked like cotton candy

>>59832239
i kind of liking how it takes out the gap between the alphabets and the numpad and fits the arrow keys in nicely. what keyboard is that?

>>59832352
Alright, much better than the thai hoe ones.

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>>59832364
red scarf iii

>>59832374
Cheaper too, they are on amazon for like 27 bucks

>>59831776
I'll sell you my HHKB2 with black blanks and a custom red and black Pexon cable for 200 incl. shipping to anywhere. Red WASD caps also included.

Used less than 5 times.

/pham/

>>59832525
200 what?

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I've been using the SSK for some time now and I'm not really missing the number pad. The higher profile keycaps threw me off at first, but it only took me a day to get used to. I was worried at first about using a heavier switch in normal use and it really hasn't impacted my typing performance. Overall buckling springs are great to type and the smaller size compared to the massive model M is great if you don't have a lot of desk space like me.

>>59832571
gold doubloons

>>59832333
get 150g springs and swap them out, or get cherry mx super blacks

hi guys, i want to get a very quiet keyboard with rainbow lighting. the only one i know is Corsair STRAFE RGB

any suggestions?

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Orihalcon just posted a model f 107 on ebay for a reasonable price pre-usb converted check it out
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-IBM-Model-F107-4704-Xwhatsit-USB-Controller-Installed-NKRO-Metal-Case-/302278667760?hash=item4661366df0:g:9bMAAOSwls5Y6vbx

>tfw keycaps still in customs
>5 days and counting

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>>59831977
Mmmm not quite, but I guess if I'm omitting page/home/end/numpad, I can omit F keys too. Was thinking of something like a 104 but without anything to the right of backspace. I want something loud and tactile.

>>59832239
>>59832308
You guys have differing opinions, can you like deathmatch for a solid conclusion?

>>59832525
I appreciate the offer but I don't touch type and I need to see the legends sometimes. 120 wpm whateverfingerisclosest method tbhwy

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>>59831776
get the HHKB for supreme memeposting

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>>59833228
>I want something loud and tactile
Then get a 60% model F or a TKL model F if you need the extra keys. If you don't like it you can always resell it on deskthority for more then what you bought for.

>>59832571
usd

>>59833278
Getting any Model F is not easy. Especially the 60 and 75% variants

There are only three known Model F 77's
and only a handful of F62's

The 'new' model f reproductions are still being built and wont be delivered until late this year for early bird low serials only

The best Model F you can buy right now is an F107

>>59833241
HHKB but specifically topre in general have one extreme flaw - rubber dome.

These domes do in fact stiffen over time and will eventually become about as much use as a foam and foil board.

Looking to get cheap mechanical keyboard on Craigslist.
Find this jewel instead
https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/sys/6077090665.html

>>59833228
Poker 3 is like 40 bucks more than poker 2. I don't mess with programming the keyboard but it is possible, he might just not be smart enough to do it :D

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>>59831776
I'd say get an HHKB

>>59834620
>>59833373

>>59832428
Do you know a keyboard with that layout without the top, fn row?

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>>59835332
you mean a 40% keyboard?

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>>59835368
No, more like a 60% + arrows + numpad but not a tkl. Also ANSI if possible.

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>>59835444
I forgot what it was called, but there was a korean custom that was exactly what you are looking for. Google search only returns this.

>>59831643
>Budget
Want to keep it on the cheaper end, but I could stretch up to maybe $125 or $150 if it's a really damn good keyboard that'll last a long time.
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Cherry Red or Brown, I guess. I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been on a laptop keyboard forever so I'm used to the little keyboard chiclet things.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Most likely 100%
>Backlight
Yes please
>Previous/current keyboards
A laptop?

I've been eyeing the Asus Claymore as a possibility.

One of the things that I like about my laptop is that it types relatively quiet. I like the idea and weightiness of a mechanical keyboard but I've used some friends and it's CLICK CLACK CLACK CLICK which is fine if I lived by myself but I have a wife who is a light sleeper.

Is it possible to get a mechanical keyboard that's pretty quiet or is it hopeless and i should just invest in a good pair of earplugs?

>>59835755
Forgot to mention: Can you damage the keyboard if you typing turns out to bed "heavy" but you end up using Reds/Browns/Blues?

>>59835755
All Mech keyboards are gonna be loud, but what I would recommend is a topre board

>>59835755
There are quiet cherry switches if you want, but they are mostly found on gaymer boards, with the exception of Leopold and Filco. You can get those here:
mechanicalkeyboards.com

>>59835444
There was a Redscarf 2 variant like this

Also I think some britfag on leddit was designing one called the UK78 or something

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>>59835619
While pic is pretty close to what I'm looking for I can't seem to find anything on it. Yours might be the best bet but it seems to be from MD.

>>59836175
That's the Duck Blackbird, they go for like up to $1000 because they're pretty old and only 30 or so were made

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I bought a Model M, and while it sounds nice, I'd rather be typing on Alps or Topre.

i tried the logitech g910 keys at best buy today and they feel really good but i can't afford it

is there anything i can get that's close to that but cheaper?

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What am I in for?

does there exist a 60% keyboard that includes the F keys?

>>59837134
Yes, you can buy the pcb from keyboarddiy.taobao.com

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I got a thicc Grifiti wristpad for my full-sized mechanical keyboard. It's pretty comfy, and I like it; but how do I go about cleaning it?

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This is comfy. [spoiler]But I wish I had gotten blanks now[/spoiler]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2064
this is making me cum my pants, should I?

>>59837815
You should change your pants first, that's gross.

where can i find a 75% cherry blue? it's like no one even makes these

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Just bought this Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja with cherryMX black switches.

I've been thorough when it comes to deciding switches and i somehow always seem to like the sound they make and actuation point these keys require the most.

Did I do good? It's my first ever mech keyboard, so i decided to go with something simple and sturdy (i hope)

>>59838261
Build it yourself

WKL sell the B.mini or KBDfans has the KBD75 still available on their website

>>59838318
build it myself? what am i a nerd?
i want to BUY one

>>59836983
good

My sister wants one of those dumb Razer RGB keyboards. Any way I could convince her otherwise?

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>>59832703
>pre-usb converted
Aren't these PS/2?

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>>59831643
How goes the endgame search /mkg/?

>>59838262
Yes. Black switches are great

>>59838334
Good thing there's plenty of other lazy wankers like you, so they both offer assembly services (but you might have to pay KBDfans even more for it since they don't use Cherry switches normally)

>>59838385
Slow, considering I'm building customs from here on, instead of buying. Kinda getting used to reds, but still miss the bump.

>>59838372
give her an rgb keyboard with cherry mx that's cheaper and has better switches than that Chinese crap

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I did it by accident but its kinda nice

>>59838488
>cherry mx
Aren't Gaterons actually better nowadays though? And what keyboard would you recommend? It should be available with Nordic keycaps, not sure she wants to learn EurKey.

>>59838506
Gaterons are hit and miss with my experience
it's KBTs that are a good cherry replacement right now.

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I have been using the Realforce RGB for about a month or two. This is my first Topre board. I am very impressed with how good it feels. Swapping on some PBT caps really helped it sound better, but I want some high profile caps. The only ones I can find are those nice dark brown ones that Filco put out. Either way, if I could only own one keyboard right now, it'd be this one. I will buy another Realforce to take to work someday.

>>59838492
What is this ? I'm interested.

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Got my RAMA M10-A tracking number.

Awwwwwww yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

>>59838887
A tenkeyless with Tai-hao Lavender

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\o/

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Is JT Keycaps good?

>>59839264
Inferior to GMK, but the price is really good if you want quality ABS doubleshots.

My Ducky Shine 3 died of water damage, so i'm looking for a new keyboard. This time with cherry reds and no LEDs.

>Anything under 250 euro is fine
>The Netherlands
>Cherry MX red
>87 key ANSI
>TKL, 80%
>none

>>59838960
what is this and what will you use it for

>>59839492
Get a Ducky One for €80
https://www.alternate.nl/html/search.html?query=Ducky&channel=nl

>>59838377
Standard 4704's use a proprietary connector. They need to be internally modified with a new controller in order to output to USB.

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>>59833373
I don't think that's a problem with something that you can't use in the first place. See, back in early 2016 this keyboard was shilled relentlessly by me and this italian guy. Little did people then know that the keyboard is not actually a functional keyboard. It does not send any information to the computer, all the usb connection does is power an internal microphone and some capacitative sensor that detect when a key is touched. Notice that I said touched, as you can't press the keys down, they are completely static. Upon a key being touched, an internal microphone plays a high quality flac file of a female voice saying "thock" with a strong french accent. Not making a "thock" sound, just literally saying "thock". Everyone who praises this keyboard is simply acting as if it were an actual keyboard out of buyers remorse. Thus it is the greatest meme of all, and grants the owners the maximal number of attainable meme points.

>>59839983
The solenoid in my beamspring does a similar thing actually.

Do you guys think the keyboard cases with the see through LED diffuser is ever going to catch on for mass produced boards? I think it's a really nice LED implementation but I definitely cannot afford a custom board.

>>59839820
>proprietary connector
Isn't it something compatible with PS/2 though, like with AT?

>>59840152
Its also a proprietary interface which needs to be converted. Just like those old XT keyboards a simple adapter wont work.

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>>59840152
this is the connector it uses, not PS/2 or AT compatible at all.

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>>59839710
Fully programmable macro pad with a milled aluminum case. Will be using it to bind drawing program shortcuts to so I can just plug it into whatever computer I'm working with.

restoring an SSK I found at work, gonna start shitposting it once its done, that okay?

>>59840824
Sure go ahead. Now that you have gotten my permision you can post it.

Trying to salvage a rosewill rk9000 a friend gave me after he split soda all over it, but I'm not used to doing keyboard repairs and shit.
Most if not all the keys are sticky as fuck but the board seems fine otherwise, does soaking this crap in distilled water really work?

>>59841547
Since its plate mount you cant take the switch apart without desoldering, so instead get an eyedropper and inject alcohol into the switch directly, then press it a several times until it doesn't feel sticky. Finally rinse it with distilled water and let it dry completely.

>>59840879
Thanks daddy, pics tomoro when all is dry and dandy

>>59838887
>>59839087
yes
with white LEDs and a matte red plate

http://www.gigabyte.us/Keyboard/FORCE-K83
Is this a good keyboard?
Simplistic looking without any gaymer shit all over it and i can snag it for around 70 bucks with MX blue keys.

Honestly it looks a little to good to be true for the price

>>59842180
It still looks to gaymery for me. I'd go with rosewill instead since it looks better while only being 5-10 bucks more
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-RK-9000V2/dp/B00S5E4KH2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491924458&sr=8-1&keywords=rosewill+rk9000

>>59836983
Bump

>>59832308
I like your yard.

>>59831643
I've tried asking this before, but got no response so I'll try again. Has anybody here tried backlighting keys by running an individual fiber optic strand to each key? If so, how did you "feed" the light from an LED into the fiber optic strands to begin with? I'm basically just looking for a part name or phrase that I can google without getting a list of expensive, high-end fiber optic interconnects.

Second, I already have a teensy 3.2 from an unrelated project, but it seems like the 2.0++ would be the device of choice for most DIY builds that include LED controls. Is there any *physical* reason the 3.2 wouldn't work? The 3.2 has 33 pins already, so the pin count should be sufficient. I don't care about existing firmware, because I can probably write my own if I have to. I'm just wondering if there are any reasons to not use a teensy 3.2 that I'm unaware of.

>>59832703
>Abandons F10-12 just so the rows can be even
Man fuck this one

>>59843422
Fiber optics suck for lighting. If you've ever played with toys that use fiber optics then you should know they degrade pretty quickly and end up looking like shit. Plus the lighting isn't very consistent. If you ever go to tech fairs they always give away fiber optic necklaces/wrist bands for free and those especially suck. I guess as long as the LED points into the wire then you should be fine. Using your old teensy is fine since TMK is compatible with it.

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>>59843561
The 4704 was used as a keyboard for banking terminals, as a result it didn't really come with F keys. You could lay the keyboard out however you want though if you absolutely need all 12 F keys

How is the Vortex Core? Considering picking one up

>Budget
no limit, but i want to know all my options
>Location
usa
>Preferred switch type
45g and quiet. i would consider topre, matias, cherry silents, or other options
>Layout
usa
>Form factor
tenkeyless, but i would consider programmable 60%. programmable is a huge perk
>Backlight
no
>Previous/current keyboards
dogshit, but i've played around with a realforce topre 55g and prefer something lighter

>>59843659
HHKB with QMK controller

Are blue switches to loud to use while playing gayms with my friends? i don't want to drive everyone crazy

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>>59843805
depends

>>59843805
Also is brown really not good as said in the pastebin?

Does anyone have a vortex CORE?

>>59843860
why would some one buy that piece of shit. If you're going to make a 40% keyboard it better be fully programmable.

Hello guys
Can you plz give quick rundown on those switches:

Kalih
Cherry
Greetech
Gateron
ALPS
KBT
Matias

I would like to go for Blue ones (click sound)

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>budget
$110 USD or $150 CAD
>Location
Canada
>switch type
Blue or brown
>Layout
ANSI
>form factor
100%
>Backlight
Yes
>current keyboard
Pic related so literally anything would be an upgrade
You lads have any suggestions?

hello i'm european poorfag recommend budget mkb pls

>>59844161
You can get a Ducky One from ncix for that price

>>59844428
You can get cherry keyboards from surplus stores for like 10-20 euro poor bucks over there

>>59844462
it's sad but i can't :(

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I just got my first mech keyboard last week. One thing I have about is the feel of the keys. Too many "sharp" corners on it that hurt my fingers when I make a mistake and don't hit the key perfectly in the center.

Are there any keycaps you'd recommend? Are there any keycaps that are more forgiving?

Thanks.

>>59844869
>have
hate

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>>59844869
g20

>>59844950
That looks nice. Where do I buy them? What's the cheapest/best way?

>>59844972
pimpmykeyboard.com

>>59844987
One more questions for you or someone else who knows... I've seen keycap heights as R1 through R5. Are all keyboards compatible with all these key heights? What key height should I go with? Any pros/cons of lower height ones?

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>>59845059
That just refers to the height of the keycap. If you take a look at cherry profile you'll see that row 1 is lower in height then row 5. In other sets like DSA they are all the same height. What this means is that if rearrange your keycaps your keyboard will look weird since R3 is next to R5. The height of the keycap has nothing to do with compatibility.

>>59845128
Ahh, OK!

Another question... are there any places that you'd recommend for buying a variety of "novelty" keycaps that I can play with? One thing that bothers me are MS Win keys. Would like to replace those with something else ASAP.

I remember seeing small "baggies" of various keycaps for cheap.

>>59845194
everyone sells novelty keycaps. If you want get some from chyna for cheap

>>59844437
Thanks i'll check it out

>budget
No more than $130, preferably around $100.
>location
US
>switch
MX Reds preferably, I'm sure I could get used to blacks though.
>layout
ANSI
>form factor
Tkl
>backlight
Preferably
>previous keyboards
Laptops, membranes, current is a Corsair K70, but I want a tkl, save the space on my desk considering I don't even use the numpad.

Been looking at the Ducky One and the Logitech G Pro. Before anyone asks I am indeed autistic, the rgb is part of the reason I looked at the g pro. I plan to set the lights to a slight blue and purple glow, I have stress issues and it relaxes me.

Was also hoping to find something with a metal backplate, but it's not a deal breaker.

>>59845489
The Ducky One RGB has a steel back plate, but its 10 bucks over your budget. There is a version with PBT keycaps, but that's only available fro pre-order

>>59845489
Get a chink keyboard like keycool or e-element

>>59838385
The Plum 84 I got is pretty nice. It's my first sub-TKL board that I got and I like the form factor. Switches are nice too. I'm going to save up for a Type-S JP and get a hasu controller so I can program the Jap keys.

>>59845545
I would consider the Ducky One RGB despite the price because I'm aware of it's quality. I was more looking for something with an external metal backplate though, but like I originally said it really doesn't matter, I just like the look of metal over plastic.

I was also looking at the MK Disco, but I'm not able to find much reliable info on KBT switches. I've read they are comparable to vortex and gateron, but I've got no experience with those 2 either.
>>59845577
I'd like a quality product, I'm sure I'll get some shit for saying it considering I'm looking at RGB, and my previous best keyboard is a Corsair, but oh well.

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>>59832239
>>59832308
>>59833548
How is the Poker 2 different from the Poker 3 in programmability? Are there other options for 60% with Filco-type build quality?

HHKB is too meme for me, my inner heeb won't let me pay so much for domes and missing modifier keys.

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both are now bolt modded

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Rate my office memes

>>59846004
>>59845942
REAL keyboards

>>59846004
u gon get for that nazi frog, u nazi.
jokes aside, whats that ball(?) with ibm on it?

I'm going to fall for the mech meme, and I'm looking for a 60%. I'm struggling a little bit with the standard/ layout choice. I want a french azerty layout, so an ISO standardized keyboard. I'm interested with the WASD VP3 since I can customize it a lot, but they are two models, the 61 and 62 keys. Looking at the layout I think 62 keys suits me more, amirite ? Plus, are WASD VP3 any good ?

>>59832239
I make 80k a year programming on a poker 3

fuck you

>>59843805
I've played plenty of games where some dumbass' clicky keyboard was constantly activating his mic. It wouldn't overpower you speaking, but if you use just push a button to talk if you don't want everyone to mute you.

>>59847029
>if you use just push a button
*if you use clicky switches

>>59846004
Nice keyboard, no true /mkg/ reader would ever complain about buckling springs.

Also,
>bash the fash, all trump supporters belong in concentration camps, etc.

ibm fags, bolt or screw mod? and why?
currenlty leaning to screw mod, looks neater.

>>59846726
he meant programming the keyboard, not typing the programs using the keyboard

>>59847538
Anyway, I'm making 80k a year programming my keyboard so fuck you.

Novatouch TKL w/ Topre for $75. Should I go for it?

>>59847997
Yeah, worst case you can easily flip it for a profit

>>59846004
Where do I get the Kek pin?

>>59848016
Got it. One guy is selling it on Cragislist in my are. Only 10 min away. Sounds like a great deal unless it's all fucked up. Gonna go see..

QUICK

TADA68 IN STOCK

Gateron Brown?
Gateron Blue?

>>59848246
mx browns have always felt like rubber domes that you can press in beyond their activation point to me
don't think gaterons are very different but idk

>tfw no greens

>>59847658
>80k
wow mr wallstreet over here, why dont you go bail out some banks will you?

>>59846004
>likes old-timey retro shit
>headphones not a portapro

...

Looking for my first mechanical keyboard.
IKBC C87 or RK-9000V2?
What do you think?

>>59848293
I'd heard that the gateron browns had a more noticable bump, if that was the case I think I could survive with them, blues are great but will probably be too loud

>>59848608
idk man i got gateron blues because if i buy a mech that feels like shit what's the point

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>>59844125
somebody post the updated version

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Hi

>>59843561
I have them keys on a second layer if I need them. The board is fully programmable.

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>CNC Aluminum Case + Novatouch Bundle
>$389.00

>>59850010
Fucking god damn I wanted that wrinkle coat case why did it have to end up being a custom colour option

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Thanks to this anon's >>59848016 opinion that I should go for it, I picked up Novatouch with Topre keys. It has Cherry MX compatible stems so adding keys is dead simple.

Fucking amazing for $75. Only the cable's nylon webbing has a bit of fraying on it but they keyboard itself is absolutely spotless without a single scratch on it. Even the every single key is spotless and there's no dust on it either. Sorry for my webcam shot... need to replace that too.

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>>59850154
Now add some dampening rings to silence the upstroke and some nice doubleshot ABS or PBT keycaps!
My novatouch is on the top left though I paid a lot more than you did you lucky bastard

>>59850154
The NT is a nice board, speaking as someone typing on one right now. If it wasn't obvious, the cable is just microusb so you can replace it with whatever if you so desire. As >>59850189 suggests, get some nice caps soon, then silence it when you feel up for a mod.

>>59850189
Thanks! Will order some rings off ebay. Tell me, what keycaps are the ones you have on them? I kinda like blue.... even though this black and "gold" is growing on me.

>My novatouch is on the top left though I paid a lot more than you did you lucky bastard
Kek. Dude... this is like the first good deal I ever made. Dude I got it off was some rich guy with a new Porsche 911 in front of his house. Don't think he mind giving me a deal.


>>59850210
Yep, I have a 10ft microUSB cable that I'll be using with it. I like long cables on keyboards.

Got a recommendation on which caps would go well with it?

Thanks guys! I'm happy now.

>>59850329
The caps on my board are Tai Hao 'Rain Drop' Doubleshot ABS

>>59850329
>Got a recommendation on which caps would go well with it?
Anything thick. Personally I've used and would recommend Ducky PBT, Gateron PBT, and Signature Plastics SA ABS.

>>59850356
>>59850387
Thanks anons! Do any of you use palmrests with your Novatouch? Which one would you recommend?

>>59850839
I use my chair's armrests.

>>59850839
I don't I use the armrest on my chair, but if I did I'd make my own out of wood.

>>59850850
>>59850856
OK! I think I'm gonna seek out a nice gel palmrest which should be good for summer.

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Guys... keycap puller... are those plastic ones (pic related) better than those wire loop ones? Need to buy one but don't know if wire ones are worth extra cost...

>>59850967
Plastic ones snap easily and they can scratch keys plus they wont fit all keycaps. Go for the wire puller.

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>>59850975
Thanks anon! Is pic related any good?

>>59851014
the wire pullers are pretty much all the same

>>59851039
Got it. Gonna order it asap.

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>>59850850
>>59850856
Well, I couldn't find a good & cheap TKL gel wrist rest (they were all for large keyboards) but I found a really nice memory foam & fake/protein leather one for 87-keys for $7 shipped. Pic related. Will report quality when it arrives.

>>59851715
Definitely post pictures, I'll be interested to see the size compared to a novatouch. May end up getting one myself.

I had my SSK plugged into my computer, while also having another keyboard plugged in. When I toggled num lock on my other keyboard it also toggled num lock on my SSK. Didn't know it does that. This is nice since the SSK doesn't have LEDs on it so if I press caps lock on my SSK the LED lights up on my other keyboard.

>>59851757
It goes by name:

>37cmx8cmx2cm PC PU Leather 87-Keys Hand Palm Support Pad Keyboard Wrist Rest

on ebay and others sites (there's literally dozens of sellers of the exact same thing) and 37cm is 14.5" which is exactly the width of Novatouch. 2cm is roughly 3/4" which is exactly the height of Novatouch. Looks like a perfect match. I'm guessing all other 87key keyboards have more or less same dimensions.

>>59846188
It's an IBM fortune telling ball. Like the 8-ball one

Got it from our IBM rep, we're a reseller of that stuff.

>>59847176
*helicopter idling in the distance*

>>59848042
I got it on Amazon

>>59851715
Well, just be sure not to rest your wrists.

>>59836983
Another bump....

>>59835444
when it's already that big why would you omit the insert/delete area and function row? it's already taking up the whole fucking desk, why omit the f keys?

>>59838960
this is good and right and salutary

>>59850967
they are actual cancer. they drag down the side of the key and can damage them over time, or wear out because the plastic flange at the end cracks. wire ones are better in all ways.

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>>59852750
But its not that big, I'd be on column bigger than a TKL and if you don't use the keys, then you don't need em.

>>59852925
It would be one column bigger.

How are Gateron browns? Might be getting a magicforce soon and I'm trying to decide between reds or browns. I didn't really care for Cherry Browns but I hear the Gaterons are a lot better.

Hey y'all. What was the name of that korean electro-capacitive keyboard that came in white/silver with floating island keys or black with regular keys? It was around $120 USD. It was TKL if I'm not mistaken.

I have a Leopold FC900 with brown Cherry MX switches. While I'm totally fine with these, I've heard you can do much better. I otherwise really like how the keyboard looks and all, is it that difficult to resolder some Gaterons or whatever on there?

Is there any keyboard similar to the Corsair K95 RGB (either red or brown) but cheaper?

It has everything I want (except the usb-through but whatever) but from what I understand you are paying more for the name.

Looking for my first mechanical keyboard.
IKBC C87 or RK-9000V2?
What do you think?

I'm still trying to decide between gateron blue and brown. I've got a switch tester for cherry mx and the brown is gritty like others say but only when I make very small movements. The blue is beautiful but it will probably be too loud for me and I think i'll have trouble with double tapping using it for games.

So far I have the gateron brown set to buy but some last advice would be appreciated

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Ordered a pok3r rgb with blue switches that's supposed to be arriving on Friday.
Did I do good /mkg/?

What are the absolute cheapest mechs? So far I've found the Magicforce 68 for 58 AUD from ebay. Is there anything cheaper?

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寿司ゲット

>>59846726
>80k a year

>>59856544
>EnjoyPBT
good

Just ordered my TADA68 with Gateron brown switches (I was spamming for help a bit, sorry), should be here in 3-5 days I hope. So do I join everyone else on the EnjoyPBT keycaps or wait around for something coming up?

>>59836983
you're in for having 85 dollars less

>>59857544
Dont bother. The EnjoyPBT keycaps on the TADA68 are some of the best you can buy.

>>59849911
Makes me want to eat it. Shame for the floating key design.

>>59832239
This with plum keycaps will be near endgame for me. Can't stand anything that isn't fully programmable.

>>59845897
3 has more layers, that's basically it

>>59856544
keyboard?

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>>59858217
it's a winkeyless b.face x2

>>59858320
where can i get jap caps?

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>>59858377
I got them from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Enjoypbt-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-hot-117-keycaps/32694867686.html but I'd contact the seller and ask him if he really has the kit 1 in stock because he used to have around 10 sets of kit 2 in stock and kit 1 was out of stock and the next day he had 10 1s and 0 2s.

>>59858447
Neat! Thanks anon!

Topre realforce but
>English layout ?
>Japanese layout ?

I'd take the JIS but I'd rather it having a full sized spacebar.

>>59858700
JIS sucks. Get ANSI instead.

>>59857571
No shit...

>>59858320
>>59858447
Hey anon I ordered mines a few days ago, can't wait to get it.

>have corsair strafe as backup keyboard while my new keyboard is being shipped
>let younger brother play vidya while I'm at work
>come home from work and get on pc
>everything working fine, but the esc and 2-8 keys are lit in a different color
>assume he just fucked with the backlight
>change the backlight
>nothing happens

what happened to my keyboard

>>59848246
>>59857544
>>59857573

To program it, you have to use a crappy adobe Flash applet on a hosted website (that might not be up in the future)?!

Into the trash it goes.

>>59844428
MagicForce 68

Hi all, my Microsoft Reclusa is starting to give up on me. So:

>Budget
On the cheaper side of things
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Babies first mechanical keyboard. So I guess Brown?
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
Full 100% keys please
>Backlight
Would be preferred
>Previous/current keyboards
Microsoft Reclusa. Has handy volume control on the keyboard, which is useful.

>>59860662
Full size magicforce since those have volume controls and a backlight. Those are like £60 on amazon.

>>59860761
They look ANSI, not ISO

>>59860817
>ISO
Yuck

hi guys i currently have a board with cherry browns and they feel like mushy crap. what switches don't feel like poopy browns?

>>59860852
Non American here. So yeah, ISO please

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Last week I tried Realforce keyboard for the first time. My cousin has one and likes it a lot. I've been playing piano for 5 years and the feel of the keys reminded me of nice piano keys. One thing I didn't like was the price. Is there a way to get similar feeling keys for much less?

>>59861488
BTC 5100C or any dome w/ slider board are very similar.

Been looking for about a week and can't decide on anything.

>Budge
About ~$100
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX blue
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80% or something in the 70s. It can also be full size I don't really care
>Backlight
Yes, was looking for rgb but everything I find is out of stock. Some sort of backlight is a necessity
>Previous/current keyboards
None mechanical

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anyone got the Anne Pro?
thinking of getting one

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Hope3 it's3 ok 3to3 ask 3here.

I3 spilled 3water 3on3 my3 laptop3 now3 I keep 3getting /a3 bunch 3of 33s 3every3 time3 I hit 3the3 space 3bar.
.
.Also/ 3my 3backspace3 registers 3a / 3/almost 3every3 time3 I 3backspace3 and 3my3 enter3 key3 inserts3 periods /and 3forward 3slashes.
.
.What's 3the 3easiest 3way3 to 3disable 3the 3built-in3 keyboard3 and 3make3 a3 /USB 3one 3my3 default 3keyboard?

Also 3since 3I guess 3I'm 3in 3the 3market3 for3 my3 first3 mechanical 3keyboard:

>$50-100
>US
>Blue 3or 3black 3maybe? 3Kinda 3heavy 3typer 3maybe, peak 33140 3WPM 3if3 that 3helps 3in 3any 3way.
>No 3clue3 on3 layout
>Full3 size, /or3 whatever 3something 3like3 this 3is: >>59832239
>B/acklight 3not3 necessary, 3but 3I wouldn't3 mind3 /it
>Just3 used 3the3 /built3/-in3 /keybaord/ 3to3 this3 HP dv7-6143cl. 3Also 3used3 to 3use 3an 3ergonomic 3Microsoft3 board 3that3 was3 too 3soft 3to 3my 3liking/, 3but 3comfy 3after3 a 3while.

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>>59839983
>>59833373
>>59834620
lets all not pretend we didnt buy this keyboard solely for the memes

>>59852090
ah cool, mind posting some pics of that ball?

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>>59862604
>No 3clue3 on3 layout
Something like this should do you well

>>59863098
too 3kek

th-thanks

Looking for a new keyboard for gaming and essay writing
>budget
£100, willing to go slightly over for something better
>location
UK
>layout
UK standard
>switch type
brown or equivalent
>size
full size or at least with a number pad
>backlit
preferably although not fussed about RGB
>Previous
some shitty membrane teknet keyboard, although I do like the volume control it has

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>>59862604
Don't bother with these mechanical keyboard memes. Just get a microsoft chiclet keyboard. Its also available in ANSI if you don't want an ISO enter

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>>59863378
You can easily get a Ducky One with that budget. Personally I'd skip the backlight and get the one with PBT keycaps, but the double shot ABS on the backlit one are great as well.

>>59863391
Best fuckin choice mate

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>>59831643
I got this AT101W for $1.00 at a Salvation Army (it was tagged at $2.00, but I got it for 50% off). It was extremely dirty (hair, dust, and coffee stains) but I cleaned it pretty well.

>>59863391
>>59863473
/Would3 I 3be 3able 3to 3use 3a 3Bluetooth 3keybioard 3at3 boot-up 3/though?

>>59862909
It's genuinely nice to type on, but I do use my Varmilo TKL most of the time.

>>59863547
You mean to get into the BIOS, then yes. Maybe if its an old computer from 2006 then there could be a problem.

>>59863547
as long as your computer has a usb 2.0 port then there should be no issues what so ever

>>59863695
>>59863716
/Ah 3ok 3awesome.

I'll 3keep3 the3 chiclet3 in3 mind, 3but 3I do 3think 3I'd3 prefer 3a3 mechanical3 at 3this 3point. 3The 3chiclet 3is 3what3 I'm 3used3 to, 3but 3I 3/do 3remember3 enjoying 3full-sized 3keys 3as 3well. 3That 3particular 3keyboard3 also 3seems3 to3 have 3a3 lot3 of3 negativity 3review-wise.

>>59863748
If you do want a mechicanical just fill out the filters here and pick one you like. I'd go for anything by Ducky or Leopold as they are good brands.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php

>>59850189
I POSTED IT AGAIN

Anybody going to buy the GMK Oblivion set?

>>59863806
Thanks 3anon, 3appreciate3 it.

>>59863423
Cheers mate, any recommendation on where to get one from?

Where do I get cheap pbt keycaps?

Also do Cherry compatible keycaps fit on chink switches like oetemu and kailh?

Can I plastic polish a model M?

>>59864175
It looks great, so I probably will.

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so the ducky pocket came. compared to right is ducky shine 1. i actually fucking hate the new cherry RGB crap. notice how on the old LED system on the right that there's almost zero light spilling out under the keycaps while on the left even though the backlit keys themselves aren't that bright, lights floods everywhere. also the white gives a tinge of rainbow at various colors. guess ill just live with it but at least i know never to change out my shine 1.

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>>59865213
Unfortunately for you that's what the new RGB fad is all about. The new shine 6 for example is a horrendous mess

>>59849911
NOICE

>>59859236
It broke like the shitty corsair keyboard it is. Be happy your new keyboard is on its way.

>>59832239
which keyboard is this

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>>59866057
RS96 iii

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Went to microcenter for a $12 cable and I left with this. What the he'll did I buy guys? First mechanical keyboard.

>>59849878
what are the ones listed as being pretty good tbqh senpai

>>59866234
Gateron

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>>59866172
They are releasing a version with doubleshot PBT instead of ABS in about a couple months. I would have waited for that, but otherwise Ducky is a very good brand. Just out of curiosity how much did you pay for it. Is microcenter competitive with online stores

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Oi /mkg/, I've been looking at getting some linear switches, as I've been using tactiles for a while, and I want to try something linear and quiet for late night funposting, but every time I've tried a cherry red or black board, they've always have felt so grainy and plastic-y.
I've looked into things like gateron reds, and they look great, but I've hardly have found any gateron red boards, and the ones I have found are either way too expensive for a board using cherry clones, or have an odd layout.
For example, this monoprice board would be great (https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=13787), but the enter key and that little cluster is a complete turn off for that board.

And just to help narrow down;

>Budget
$50
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Gateron reds
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL or full-sized
>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
some modded rosewill with cherry blues
Logitech G710+
(current) Razer Blackwidow X Chroma TE

So far the Razer's been my favorite, the greetech switches are so much better than the previous kailh switches, feels right up there with cherry imo.

>>59866278
Cheapest I was able to find was a full size magicforce
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HGI7YN4/ref=sr_1_11?srs=7936345011&ie=UTF8&qid=1492049752&sr=8-11&keywords=magicforce

need a good mechanical keyboard to work in excel all day in

numpad and f1-F10 keys, arrowns needed

office environment so pref no (or minimal) lighting or branding

as cheap as possible without being shit

USA

>>59866335
Yea, I saw that too, but seeing how the monorprice keyboard is literally half the price, I'd imagine there'd be something else in between in terms of price, because at $70, that's a bit much for something like that.

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>>59866355
Tomoko comes pretty close.

>>59866395
if only it had a numpad

>>59866404
there is a version with a numpad tho

>>59866275
$109

Alright /g/. I want to have a good keyboard for coding. What does everyone recommend?

>>59866392
not really it comes with much better build quality and back lighting, while only being 25 bucks more then the normal price of the monoprice. If you want you could get one of these

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>>59866432
HHKB

>>59866413
cheers buddy

>>59844869
only thing you need to stop worrying about is being a bitch with babyhands

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>>59866462
the monoprice one, after taxes and shipping, would only be $45 and also has a metal backplate. Backlighting makes no difference to me, so to me, I'm only paying for the layout and the metal body even though the monoprice one has a metal backplate and is sturdy enough.
If possible, I'd actually like the plastic outer casing so I could mod and paint it.

what's the consensus on Filco Majestouch-2? Should I get one? Been looking at it for a while. Maybe something else in the same price range?

>>59866890
I'm typing on the Filco Magestouch Convertible right now. The Bluetooth function is handy when all the USB slots on your laptop is used up.

It is also very solidly built, quite heavy (1.3 KG) and has no rollover.

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>>59866890
Wish i could tell you, but mine is stuck in some odd postal limbo and i don't know what to do

Thoughts on the Apple Keyboard A1048 from 2005?

I'm new to this and I'm sure it's probably not even mechanical so excuse my ignorance but I'm wondering what the consensus is on it or Apple keyboards in general. I heard the Model M from IBM is quite popular and was wondering if Apple has anything that is as popular. Of course Model M is much older than the 2005 keyboard, but I'm speaking in general terms.

>>59855069
Just bringing this post up, I would love to resolder new caps on it.

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I've got shitseries 6gv2 and some time ago my J key wasn't responding most of the time so i took out the switch from scroll lock key and soldered it instead but it's not working at all. Did i fuck something up or there is something more to do?

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Is this legit?
https://world.taobao.com/item/529367976614.htm?fromSite=main

What does mkg think about white motha fukkas?

>>59866432
the one you like the most

>>59866432
IBM Model M13 (Trackpoint II)

Just a suggestion, of course, but I know programmers love it quite a lot. I personally have no experience with it so can't say much.

>>59863524
beware of dirty alps boards, they are not representative of the general alps feeling

What should I buy /g?

"Rosewill Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Cherry MX Brown Switches (RK-9000V2 BR)"

or

"Logitech G610 Orion Brown Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard"?

Which one is better in your opinion?

>>59870153
cherry all the way my boy

>>59870166
yes but they are both cherry MX Brown.

>>59870186
oh my bad, thought that logitech used those romer gs, which ever is cheaper I guess.

>>59869214
Apple does have a mechanical keyboard called the AEK, though you need an active adapter since it uses a proprietary interface.

>>59870153
I'm very happy with my RK-9200, except for the fact that I can't reprogram the firmware. The 9000 I hear you can get something to do just that.

>>59871019
Not on the v2, just the original 9000.

>>59871019
>RK-9200
YEs. Im thinking of cuying the rosewill. Im just an average gamer.

>>59871600
*buying

Where to get cheap iso keycaps in germany?

>Budget
About 80€
>Location
Poland
>Preferred switch type
Most likely blue, want something comfy to type on
>Layout
US/Int
>Form factor
Preferably 100%, could do with a TKL
>Backlight
Don't really care
>Previous/current keyboards
Modecom MC-9005

I was thinking about Sharkoon Skiller SGK1 Blue but is there something better?

>>59871669
this is the only german store I know of that sells keycaps for cheap.
https://www.candykeys.com/keycap-sets/

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I want to meme it up and I'm looking for memeposting tips

- How do I not come off as desperate and lonely but still post as much of my possessions as possible?
- When is it too much? I like a veneer of authenticity, I want my purchasing habits to come off as worthwhile hobbies, not mindless consumerism and bragging.
- What are some good "hobbies" to pursue alongside mechanical keyboards? I don't want to come off as entry level and I see you guys are branching out as well. Headphones? Pens? Small potted plants?
- I can easily afford keycaps, but I don't want to buy this overpriced crap out of principle. Is there an alternative way to meme?
- Is dumpster diving for Model Ms desperate, tryhard and entry level behavior? People who post these have this air of desperately trying to fit in but I'm unsure if it's working or not and if it's something I have to do as well. In short, Model M = authentic hobbyist or Model M = hobo?
- Which subreddits do you post in?
- Recommend me a good DSLR for meme photos.
- I have no problem buying niche abominations such as 30% keyboards that I will never use (I mean come on), but if I'm buying useless crap, I want to invest smart and go straight for the meme - recs are appreciated.

>>59871787
>- How do I not come off as desperate and lonely but still post as much of my possessions as possible?
You can't, that's why you embrace it.
>- When is it too much? I like a veneer of authenticity, I want my purchasing habits to come off as worthwhile hobbies, not mindless consumerism and bragging.
There is no such thing as too much. People pay several thousand dollars for keyboards just because they have a slightly darker color to them.
>- What are some good "hobbies" to pursue alongside mechanical keyboards? I don't want to come off as entry level and I see you guys are branching out as well. Headphones? Pens? Small potted plants?
Pens and audiophile stuff is okay, but you could always branch out into guns, cars/motorcycles, or even HAM radio.
>- I can easily afford keycaps, but I don't want to buy this overpriced crap out of principle. Is there an alternative way to meme?
Most great keycap sets will cost you well over 60 bucks. Anything from Gateron/EnjoyPBT or GMK will last you a long time. Unfortunately for you custom keycaps will always be expensive while not really offering and substantial improvement in quality to say a keyboard that comes with gateron dye-sub PBT keycaps as stock.
(1/2)

>>59871787
>>59872102
>- Is dumpster diving for Model Ms desperate, tryhard and entry level behavior? People who post these have this air of desperately trying to fit in but I'm unsure if it's working or not and if it's something I have to do as well. In short, Model M = authentic hobbyist or Model M = hobo?
The model M has a unique typing experience as the tactile and audible feedback happen at the exact moment of actuation. No other switch does that, and coupled with the fast reset time, it really makes it an enjoyable typing experience. I have and while its lots of fun to type in the large size and loud noise might put some people off. Model Ms are also pretty common keyboards, you should be able to walk into most thrift stores and buy one. You can still get brand new Model Ms today since Unicomp still makes them. The newer ones have more features then the original, such as windows keys, USB, and more customize-ability.
>- Which subreddits do you post in?
none
>- Recommend me a good DSLR for meme photos.
I uses a G15
>- I have no problem buying niche abominations such as 30% keyboards that I will never use (I mean come on), but if I'm buying useless crap, I want to invest smart and go straight for the meme - recs are appreciated.
HHKB is a solid meme choice. If you want even more meme points then any Korean custom will do.
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How much could making a keyboard PCB cost? I have a keyboard with broken PCB (some paths are damaged and a few keys don't work) and hand-wiring it feels like too much of a hassle. Did anyone here try buying a custom-made PCB?

give me reasons not to buy this
>blanks
>pbt
>1.5mm thicc
>cheaper than tai lmaos
>actually available on amazon not just on some shady chink website

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XG1CQZT/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A257ALKOU7JKIJ&psc=1

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>>59872560
You can just hand wire a keyboard to a controller like an arduino or teensy

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So I'm looking for a new mechanical keyboard:

1) Budget
$200

2) Location
USA

3) Preffered switch type
Preferably brown. But I'm open to other switch types. Whichever is good for both typing/gaming.

4) Layout
ANSI

5) Form factor
Specifies the amount of keys your keyboard will have:
- 100%

6) Backlight
Would like it, not mandatory though

Also would be nice if it has a built in usb hub

>>59872665
they cost about the same as tai-hao Miamis, but if you want then go for them since they are in stock, while tai-hao Miami isn't.

>>59872102
>You can't, that's why you embrace it.
But then how some of you come off as so cool? I want to be like that.

>There is no such thing as too much. People pay several thousand dollars for keyboards just because they have a slightly darker color to them.
This is a relief. So basically I can just buy whatever and it's all good as long as I have a quality established taste?

>Pens and audiophile stuff is okay, but you could always branch out into guns, cars/motorcycles, or even HAM radio.
I think cars/bikes are too much of a chad vibe and HAM radio is almost fedora tier. I'll consider guns, perhaps go for that classic anime figurine / gun juxtaposition.

>Most great keycap sets will cost you well over 60 bucks. Anything from Gateron/EnjoyPBT or GMK will last you a long time. Unfortunately for you custom keycaps will always be expensive while not really offering and substantial improvement in quality to say a keyboard that comes with gateron dye-sub PBT keycaps as stock.
I'm just looking for a way of not buying keycaps at all. I know the machines are expensive and demand/supply is skewed towards demand and I understand why it's expensive. But I'm thinking ahead and I know when I'm over the meme, I won't be able to live with myself knowing I spent actual money on fucking keyboard keycaps.

>>59872116
>The model M has a unique typing experience as the tactile and audible feedback happen at the exact moment of actuation. No other switch does that, and coupled with the fast reset time, it really makes it an enjoyable typing experience. I have and while its lots of fun to type in the large size and loud noise might put some people off. Model Ms are also pretty common keyboards, you should be able to walk into most thrift stores and buy one. You can still get brand new Model Ms today since Unicomp still makes them. The newer ones have more features then the original, such as windows keys, USB, and more customize-ability.

Yeah, I know all that, I used one of these as a kid. Hated everything about it. But I'm willing to go back if that's what it takes to meme.

>HHKB is a solid meme choice. If you want even more meme points then any Korean custom will do.

Isn't HHKB just a must-have for memes? I'm looking for something beyond that, some stupid ortholinear bullshit, something that will make people react and ask questions.

>>59872680
Well, I just said it's too much of a hassle for me. I don't have much experience with soldering so it takes me ages to wire just a few keys.

>>59872837
then just get a PCB from chyna. GH60 is a good choice, though you'll still have to do a bit of soldering

>>59872848
If it's just through-hole mounting, then I'm fine with it. Thanks for the suggestion.

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>>59872807
>But then how some of you come off as so cool? I want to be like that.
Just take good pictures. If you know how to frame your shit and set up proper lighting then it should look okay.
>This is a relief. So basically I can just buy whatever and it's all good as long as I have a quality established taste?
Pretty much, just don't by consumer shit like corsair or razer. A good place to look for keyboards to buy is geekhack.
>I think cars/bikes are too much of a chad vibe and HAM radio is almost fedora tier. I'll consider guns, perhaps go for that classic anime figurine / gun juxtaposition.
I was thinking about weeaboo cars and bikes like the AE86 and TX750?, I forgot what that bike was was called. Anime figurines are always a great choice and as for guns, well depending on what you want those are usually gonna be a lot more expensive then keyboards.
>I'm just looking for a way of not buying keycaps at all. I know the machines are expensive and demand/supply is skewed towards demand and I understand why it's expensive. But I'm thinking ahead and I know when I'm over the meme, I won't be able to live with myself knowing I spent actual money on fucking keyboard keycaps.
Don't worry your in good company. If you splurge $150 on some SP keycaps understand that its just scratching the surface. Just look at how much people pay for key clack artisan keycaps like pic related. If you get a keyboard with high quality keycaps like the tada68 you wouldn't have to worry about replacing them.
>Yeah, I know all that, I used one of these as a kid. Hated everything about it. But I'm willing to go back if that's what it takes to meme.
The model M is a pretty common keyboard. If you want meme status then get the industrial variants or the SSK. A model F would be better, but if you don't mind paying a couple grand for an industrial SSK just to get bonus meme points then go for it
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>>59872807
>>59872823
>>59873051
>Isn't HHKB just a must-have for memes? I'm looking for something beyond that, some stupid ortholinear bullshit, something that will make people react and ask questions.
The HHKB has been around since the mid 90s and has gotten its meme status due its prestige. It was almost 200 bucks in 1995 so the price really hasn't changed over the past 20 years, but the quality has definitely improved. Many programmers like RMS and Bjarne Stroustrup have used a HHKB as their daily driver. If you don't feel like buying one then you could get something like the planck. Its a 40% ortholinear keyboard that's relatively cheap compared to similar keyboards. You could buy one and just use it for meme points. If you want a lot of meme points then just go to geekwhack and buy a korean custom. Something like pic related actually costs $250 and it doesn't include switches or keycaps
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>>59831643
My DIY keyboard only works on the first 2 rows. Made with tmk-keyboard and teensy 2.0. What should I troubleshoot first, software or hardware?

I've gone through it several times and I cannot find anything wrong...

>>59873085
check if there is power going to the other switches. Maybe you missed a cable or something.

>>59873051
>>59873076

Dude, thanks a bunch for this advice. Money is no issue to me, I'm just looking to meme. You've given me a lot of pointers to set out on my way and develop my own language.

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>>59873097
>power
what?
I've followed matt3o's guide, which told me to wire it up in rows and columns with diodes in series for each switch of the

>>59873157
rows, and then put each row and column to a pin and then map that shit up in the software. It's partially working which boggles me a lot.

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>>59873164
>>59873164

>>59873137
If you want to be really cool just develop your own niche, but don't copy what you see in this general. Some anon on here owns a collection of walthers hand guns, while another has a collection of old IBM keyboards.

>>59872688
anyone?

>>59872688
Not serving to people with pleb taste.
Get any fully programmable one.