/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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>tried running supertuxkart on wayland (weston)
>mfw it performs better on xorg

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>>59828354

>I'll remove every single piece of Red Hat's work on my machine.

>>59828332
>communism

>>59828332
Hey guys I got tricked into the arch meme.

What terminal do you guys use? I also have the ricing disease so transparency wouldn't hurt.

>>59828542
urxvt

>>59828542
>transparent terminal
looks cool for 2 seconds, but as soon as you want to do actual work with it, you'll disable it

>>59828542
Terminal transparency is rainmeter noob level rice.

>>59828815
Please stop posting this meme. It's bad. Manjaro is cool, but this meme makes you look like a retard. Manjaro has a bugtracker too.

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>>59828843
>Manjaro has a bugtracker too
False equivalency. Come back when you get out of high school.

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>>59828833
What's he saying /fglt/?

>>59828833
Wish'd there was an svg.

>>59828937
Why? The source image is svg btw.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Gnu_linux_es.svg

>>59828925
systemd was a mistake

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>>59828984

>>59828925
"wanna fug"

>>59828965
Thanks!

I run dual screens and have two taskbars.
I have same set of shortcuts of them.
Lets say i ran application X and put it on screen 2.
How to make it so that shortcut for application X is not active on screen 1, clicking it would open it rather than make instance on screen 2 active. Or when i have multiple of them active, clicking the shortcut shows ones opened on its screen only.
System is Manjaro with KDE.

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why aren't you using kali linux?

is there a good command line twitter client

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how can I remove the white background with gimp?

>>59829246
Bucket-fill the background magenta or something, then colour-to-alpha

What's a good resource I can use to learn about the internals and architecture of Linux (or GNU + Linux if you prefer) at a low level?

My current knowledge is basically limited to shell scripting and a very high-level understanding of the system.

I'd like to learn about things like the boot process, init systems, a general overview of the kernel, display servers / framebuffers, internals of filesystems, etc.

Are there any good books or resources that provide this sort of comprehensive rundown?

>>59829246
>>59829254
Skip the bucket fill. Make sure the background is all white, then use magic wand (fuzzy select I think) to select only the background, then color to alpha. That way you don't get color artifacts and instead get less noticeable shadows at the edges of the transparent area.

>>59829068
What do you do with .svg files?

>>59829278
try to pass "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel when booting

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>>59829254
>>59829279
Thanks guys.

sudo apt-get install X has not worked for anything. What am I missing? Is everyone lying to me? Is this some kind of practical joke that is played on new linux users? What gives?

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>>59829246
>add alpha channel if not already present
>highlight with fuzzy selector
>press delete
>repeat

Webm related. The only thing you can't see is me pressing the delete key on the keyboard. There are a few other ways but this is the best way for this case.

>>59829397
Very nice. Thank ya!

Nice to see /fglt/ great again.

>>59829437
ssh, don't trigger 'em

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>>59829397
>>59829340
>>59829246
>>59829254
>tfw no /fgimt/ - friendly GNU image manipulation threads

>>59829318
See, this is why I want these resources, because I have no idea what this will do.

My assumption is that when running the init system, it will instead launch a shell from where I would then be able to manually start all the necessary services?

>>59829318
it never crossed my mind that this was possible

>>59829538
>My assumption is that when running the init system, it will instead launch a shell from where I would then be able to manually start all the necessary services?
That's the best way to learn. But before doing that I suggest to run as root

lsmod >/lsmod.txt
cat /proc/1/mounts >/mounts.txt

You'll be happy to find those two files.

Good luck anon, you'll learn a lot of cool stuff and why systemd and systemV are bloated.

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which irc channels do you guys hang out?

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>>59829318
is it possible that my kernel alone is 30M?

>>59829658
Mine is 18M

>>59829658
the kernel itself is ~5M, while the modules (on my machine) are ~80M, so it's entirely possible

if anyone wants to learn grep by examples, this is a pretty nice collection of oneliners: https://github.com/learnbyexample/Command-line-text-processing/blob/master/gnu_grep.md

>>59829746
thanks anon

>>59829651
pretty sure most of the boards have their own channels on Rizon.

>>59829318
>mfw I can reset the root password this way
next data structures & algorithms class is gon b gud

How can I set up a GPU pass through or whatever on Linux? I would run Windows within a VM to play games, or use Windows applications.

>>59829815
>>59829318
FUCK IT'S TRUE

HOW DO I PREVENT PEOPLE FROM CHANGING THE KERNEL PARAMETERS AND RESETTING MY ROOT PASSWORD???

>>59829598
While that sounds fantastic, I don't really have any idea of what to do once in there. My understanding of what init systems are is basically limited to "it initialises things (and starts services or something)". I'm even hazy on the definition of what, exactly, constitutes a service - like I said, VERY high-level understanding of the system. In this case I can easily look this up, but there are tons of other things I may not even know I don't know.

I'll definitely mess around with what you suggested, but in the meantime, I'd still appreciate some suggestions for a more structured resource. One of the advantages of the latter is that it can also be used as a reference later (and it's much more l33t to grab a giant volume off your bookshelf than it is to start fumbling some search queries on your phone, when something goes wrong :^))

>>59829846
Do not let them physically access your machine? That's like the most basic principle of infosec. If a malicious agent has physical access, consider your system compromised.

>>59829859
yes, but some of my friends might try to do this to fuck with me after I fuck with them

>>59829846
encrypt your hard drives

>>59829847
Do it in a vm, and try to solve your problems using the Internet with the host. When you're experienced enough do it with your host and unleash the true power of Linux.

>>59829886
Install a lock on your laptop, or on the room your desktop is in.

There really is no other way. I recall reading somewhere that Linux in particular is designed with this kind of "vulnerabilities" intentionally left in, because it's assumed that if you're using the PC you're the owner, and the owner should never get locked out of his own hardware (even if you forget the root password or something). The reason you still need strong root passwords and good security is for network-level resistance.

>>59829919
Or this. I think you can even encrypt your boot partition to preserve not only your data, but your OS setup as well. Caveats:
- If you forget/lose your key, you won't be able to recover anything, contrary to the philosophy I mentioned above
- Your friends can still install other systems alongside yours; with proper know-how it would be trivial to spoof your installation, mess with the boot order, and send or store your passkey when you enter it into the fake prompt. This is just one example of a possible attack.
- There might still be some advanced attacks possible - probably not something you need to worry with friends, but just something to keep in mind if you ever decide to try to use these techniques to hide from like a government or something

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>>59829846

>>59830014
Someone has discovered the joys of GIMP

>>59830008
Windows have the same kind of vulnerabilities.

>>59830026
True. I wouldn't call them vulnerabilities, due to the reasons mentioned above. Notice my use of quotation marks.

>>59830059
Yes I should have use quotes too.

>talkingarch
What the hell. How are the users supposed to take care of eventual problems?

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>>59830024
GIMP is awesome. You can do some neat shit with it's plugins and python scripting.

>>59830344
>hurr, gimp can't even draw a circle lincucks btfo xD

>>59830344
>dem jpeg artefacts

>>59830008
what if someone steals my laptop or something?

>>59830522
Let's assume your data is encrypted, because if not, it's trivial to boot from USB and mount the partition and see everything. So already the thief can't read your data.

Now consider:
>OS is hardened
Sequence of actions: wipe HDD, install new OS, resell.

>OS is open if you have physical access
Sequence of actions: remove your meme distro that nobody will want to buy, wipe HDD, install windows, resell.

On the other hand, what if you forget your own root password?
>OS is hardened
Whoops, you have to reinstall since you can't access anything anymore. All your configurations, installed packages, etc., etc., is gone.
>OS is accessible
Bypass your way in and reset your root password, the continue happily on your way.

>>59830594
>>59830522
Also you may ask the question: "What's the point of a root password in general, then?"

Well, in a non-networked computer, there is no point. Everything in TempleOS runs in ring0, and it's not a security concern (although that does mean that it's idiot-vulnerable: a non-meme OS should still take some steps to protect users from themselves).

On the other hand, strong passwords become immensely important as soon as you connect your computer to a network. A remote attacker can, once authenticated, do whatever they want to your system through software, but the fundamental difference here is that they have no access to boot-time kernel parameters, hardware switches (e.g. clearing CMOS or whatever), etc. So while you may be able to get in to any laptop you are holding in your hands, what proper security is meant to prevent is you getting in to any laptop on the internet.

>>59830594
>>OS is open if you have physical access
>Sequence of actions: remove your meme distro that nobody will want to buy, wipe HDD, install windows, resell.
as they'd never try to get my valuable data, get into my accounts and blackmail me or something
ever heard of identity theft?

>On the other hand, what if you forget your own root password?
>>OS is hardened
>Whoops, you have to reinstall since you can't access anything anymore. All your configurations, installed packages, etc., etc., is gone.
if you forget the root password, you deserve it

>>59830706
>get my valuable data
I have already assumed data is encrypted. If it is not, bypassing the OS is trivial.

>get into my accounts
How does logging in to your OS magically grant access to your accounts? Do you use a password manager with no master password or some dumb shit like that?

>>59830748
>How does logging in to your OS magically grant access to your accounts?
he has access to my browser where I'm logged in to various accounts

is it possible to encrypt my data without reinstalling?

>>59830787
>storing passwords in the browser
You definitely deserve that. Get a sane password manager famalamodingdong

>is it possible to encrypt my data without reinstalling?
Definitely. Don't ask me how, but there are plenty of guides out there. I believe you should be able to set up LUKS for linux, and use VeraCrypt for windows.

Worst case scenario you might need to make a temporary backup while setting up the encrypted partition, but even that shouldn't normally be necessary.

>>59830748
Not that guy, but. If you are not experienced it's possible for you to forget the password or do something very bad that will break your system. This doesn't justify keeping "holes" open because of that, for me. If you know enough stuff perhaps you can fix most of them, but the problem remains. Anyway, it doesn't take much to remember a few passwords, and it's not really necessary to use very long contraptions of random symbols for desktops users. A few words combined together with some particular writing and special symbols should do it. >inb4 correcthorsebatterystaple

also, many (mainstream) password managers are fucking colanders, I'd rather use one or two encrypted hidden volume for my passwords.

>>59830854
Not sure which way you're trying to argue here.

Reminder, though, that anything non-encrypted stored on disk can be retrieved without booting into the OS. If an attacker has physicall access, everything is compromised. The only countermeasure is strong encryption - it doesn't matter whether the OS has "holes" or not at that level.

Also not sure what your point about passwords is - but I think you agree with me that it's a bad idea to just leave them accessible to anyone who logs in to your system, right?

>>59830933
Not trying to argue anything, just sayin'.

Seeing all the talk about wayland, I think a bunch of you guys should watch this and educate yourself about xorg and wayland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44

Stupid question I should probably google but I'm lazy: what's the best way to check a particular storage device is definitely not mounted anywhere (to remove it safely)?

So how do I debloat my kernel?
>>59829658

Is btrfs a meme

>>59829318
I caused a kernel panick when I tried to run tmux

>>59831281
:d

How do you encrypt an SSD using the built in OPAL features?

Is GuixSD suitable for my T420, I bought a cheap Atheros USB wifi adapter?

I'm planning on installing Arch today, but before I start I wanted to see if anyone could help me with this: I want to partition the largest part of my drive so that it will be readable on Windows and GNU+Linux as a place to store movies and whatnot. What exactly do I need to do in order to accomplish this? I've done a sort of test-run through the Arch installation process two or three times so I'm familiar with the first steps, I'm just not sure how I would use fdisk or parted to achieve what I want.

>>59831449
format the part as vfat (fat32)

>>59831449
You probably just need a windows-readable filesystem

NTFS is native to windows but needs special packages to add support on Linux; FAT32 is an older system but has great compatibility; exFAT should be the best of both worlds

>>59831494
>>59831497
I installed BunsenLabs a few months ago and I remember it left the other 990 G as "swap", which was able to show up in Windows and as a separate storage device.

So basically I would only make two partitions instead of 3 and just ignore the remaining space on the hard drive?

Spoonfeed me a good, practical guide to installing with an encrypted /boot please? I've literally never used LUKS before

I've got this https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Install_LVM_LUKS (yes I'm installing void) but while I can follow that I have no idea how to encrypt my boot partition, since I'm assuming additional steps would be required due to it being, well, the boot partition

>>59830969
That was a nice watch.

>>59831424
sedutil

How do I install ubuntu on my desktop so that whenever I start up my computer I can choose my os? I can't get the hang of installing the damn thing onto one of my drives and I've tried several times, only to abort when I don't really know where I'm installing it.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59831952
Are you trying to install it on an empty drive or one that already has other operating systems on it through partitions? If it's the first one you literally just click "Next" on the installer and then hit F11 or whatever when you boot up to select your device.

>>59831964
sudo rm --no-preserve-root -rf /

And if you have Windows on a second hard drive GRUB will let you pick between Ubuntu or Windows without you having to do anything except wait for it to pop up.

>>59831976
Both my drives are used. I'm trying to install it on my main drive which is why I keep quitting because I'm worried I'll fuck it up

>>59832013
Do you have an OS on both of them? If you're worried about messing it up and you don't have a backup, just buy a new drive and then install it.

If it's only one drive you're worried about accidentally being formatted or something, simply unplug every storage device except the one you plan to install your distro on.

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reminder that this exists

pactree -g scrot | dot -T png > out.png

you get `dot` from the `graphviz` package

non Arch users btfo

>>59832055
Windows is only on my main drive. The other stores my games, porn, and other media. I think I'll buy another hard drive and put linux on that and use it. Is linux on a hdd alright or is an ssd as useful as it is on windows?

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>>59832114
In my experience my Debian system on a regular hard drive is as fast or faster than Windows 7 on an SSD. Getting an empty hard drive to experiment with would probably be best, and then when you have your system set up you could make a backup of your media drive with what's left over.

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>>59832081

apt-cache -o APT::Cache::GivenOnly=1 dotty scrot | dot -T png > out.png

>>59831987
please leave this board forever

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>>59832212
>2017
>using X11
Enjoy your 2x worse performance

>>59829318
how do I start a regular tty from /dev/console?
should I run something like

exec /sbin/agetty --noclear tty1 linux

?

>>59832280
okay apparently it's enought to run

agetty --noclear tty1 linux

so how do I set the resolution and the hostname?

I'm trying to initialize the system by hand

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>>59832081
on void
xbps-dgraph -Rf scrot | dot -T png -o scrot_deps.png

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>>59831964

$ wat() { man "${1:?}" | sed -n "/^\s*${2:?}/,/^$/p"; };
$ wat uname -o
       -o, --operating-system
              print the operating system

$ uname -o
GNU/Linux
$

>>59829739
On my machine compressed kernel 5mb big. With all modules included. it consumes from start about 40mb.

>>59832332
neat

>>59832177
Thanks man! I'm grabbing a 320gb hdd for cheap and using that for linux. I appreciate the advice.

>>59831964

sudo for i in $(find /boot -type f);{>$i;}

>>59832370
see >>59832230

>>59832378
rude

>>59832338
Neat!

>>59832370
Why the find? That makes no sense.

>>59832558
why not?

>>59831964

/usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root

that way you can basically run all xscreensavers as desktop background
may not work with compositor enabled, I had to kill compton first

>>59832613
for i in /boot/*; do echo "because $i"; done

can someone explain to me why is my HOSTNAME variable not set when I boot with /bin/sh into /dev/console and how do I set it?
I tried

export HOSTNAME=host

and when I run agetty or just spawn another shell it still says (none)

>>59832648
>because /boot/grub
>because /boot/initramfs-linux.img
>because /boot/syslinux
>because /boot/vmlinuz-linux
grub and syslinux are directories though

>>59832338
handy

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r8 plz https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/ref=cm_wl_edit_bck?ie=UTF8&id=2SQYWUPZ5BUNU&type=wishlist

>>59832663
for i in /boot/**; do echo "because $i"; done

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why does it say none in my PS1?

>>59832795
log out

>>59832795
looks like it's using the kernel's host
use hostnamectl

>>59832081
what is dot program here. I don't see it on pacman.

>>59832854
>graphviz
fml

graphviz

>>59832795
from what?
I exited bash, exported the variable and then ran bash again
when I exectue agetty it says `(none) login:`

>>59832833
>use hostnamectl
I've booted into /dev/console with the init=/bin/sh kernel parameter, I can't use systemd commands
I'm trying to bypass systemd and initialize the system by hand

>>59832338
Added support for multi-arguments, if anyone cares.

wat() {
    x="${1:?}"; shift; y=("${@:?}")

    for i in "${y[@]}"; do
        man "${x}" \
            | sed -n "/^\s*${i}/,/^$/p"
    done
}

$ wat uname -o -s
       -o, --operating-system
              print the operating system

       -s, --kernel-name
              print the kernel name

$ 

>>59832818
>>59832941

>>59832941
>I've booted into /dev/console with the init=/bin/sh kernel parameter, I can't use systemd commands
>I'm trying to bypass systemd and initialize the system by hand

have you built a kernel before?
you'll need to build

CONFIG_DEFAULT_HOSTNAME="x220"

>>59832994
why?
if systemd can set my hostane, why can't I?

>>59833025
>why?
the kernel is currently set to

CONFIG_DEFAULT_HOSTNAME="(none)"

I want to put a light linux distro onto my asus x205t laptop, but I don't know if it's possible. I've read things that say the bios doesn't allow it or that there are issues with hardware drivers. There's no ethernet port so I'm worried that I might kill it if I can't get it to recognize my wifi chip. Any advice?

>>59833060
but how does an init program set it?

>>59833076
does hostname (the program) work?

>>59833109
hm it does, thanks

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>>59828925
>a few minutes in gimp

>>59828633
Transparent terminal looks nice for those dropdown terminals like lain quake for awesome.

Compton makes mpv lag on fullscreen :(((

>>59833109
so, do I need dbus or something to connect to mpd and transmission-daemon?

>>59833109
nvm I just needed to raise the loopback interface

For a laptop without much horsepower or space, would it be advisable to go for mint or lubuntu?

This is me btw
>>59833071

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>>59833295
seems to be the case

I installed Debian with Cinnamon last night and booted up to find a lot of the UI unresponsive. Alt-tab didn't work, mouse clicks refused to register, the super key would not work, and pretty much all I could do was use Alt F4 (though I could use the arrow keys and enter to use Firefox a bit).
Any ideas as to why it chimped out?

>>59833424
laptop or PC?

was the ui actually laggy or was maybe the inputs not actually mapped correctly?

>>59833467
PC, but a pretty decent one - checked and there was nothing eating up any memory or CPU, it's just like the entire UI was unresponsive.
It was also working perfectly fine last night as well, no visual lag.

>>59833515
check .xsessionserrors?

>>59833109
now the only thing left is to get xorg or wayland to work..

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>>59828925

>>59832972
>>59832338
This should be builtin. Comfy as fuck.

The only DE that's not too bad is unity. Every other one is a complete mess. It's quite pathetic.
When are the foss autists finally going to get their shit together?

What's some good fully libre software to use on GNU/Linux? I'm a new user.

Okay, so using /bin/sh as your init basically comes down to figuring out which modules to load.

>>59833828
Just use runit

>>59833807
https://github.com/kernc/logkeys

>>59831964

printf 'You are a faggot \b\b\b\b\b\b\bwonderful person.\n' | pv -qL 10

I've 2 stupid questions.

1) What's lightweight program that displays keys that I'm typing (for screencasts)?

2) When writing documentation/manuals, would you use the american "color" or the english "colour"?

>>59833807
GNU coreutils

>>59833890
1) https://github.com/wavexx/screenkey

2) Why not both?

$ wat grep --color --colour
       --color[=WHEN], --colour[=WHEN]
              Surround  the  matched  (non-empty)  strings,  matching  lines,  context  lines, file names, line numbers, byte offsets, and separators (for fields and groups of context lines) with escape
              sequences to display them in color on the terminal.  The colors are defined by the environment variable GREP_COLORS.  The deprecated environment variable GREP_COLOR is still supported, but
              its setting does not have priority.  WHEN is never, always, or auto

That said, when I was in school I got taught that english is the international language, so I'd use colour.

inb4 burger butthurt

>>59833807
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

if I install Ubuntu gnome 17.04 right now, would I have to reinstall it come the 13th? Or would it just be normal updates and i'd be good to go basically?

>>59833967
1) thanks
2) i guess I just use -c

Did /fglt/ already decide which distro is the overall best one? If so, please tell.

>>59834045
The one I'm using.

>>59834045
Source Mage

>>59834045
Source Mage

>>59834045
Source Mage

>>59833968
anyone? I just need a quick answer if i'l be ok installing ubuntu gnome 17.04 now
>>59834045
Source Mage

>>59834147
idk, you can always upgrade to the next verions via do-release-upgrade

>>59834045
Source Mage

>>59834188
>do-release-upgrade
I'd make backups.

>>59834045
Source Mage

>>59834045
Source Mage

>>59834045
Source Mage

K, I guess the answer is clear. Thanks guys. Installing Source Mage.

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>>59832081

>>59834188
i'll be doing a fresh install though

/r/ing systemd dot.png

>>59834234
np bby

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>>59834248

Any vim hackers ITT?
Searching for a way to sort lines by line length

>>59834045
gentoo

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>>59834294

>>59834283
what does cracklib do? :o

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>>59834307
idk mang

>>59834045
unironically source mage. Gentoo is just a gay knockoff.

>>59834327
>>59834307
> The CrackLib package contains a library used to enforce strong passwords by comparing user selected passwords to words in chosen word lists.

>>59834345
thanks for enlightening

>>59834327
>>59834283
>>59834240
someone make this shit dynamic, so you can click on a bubble and get new results

>>59834378
You seem to have good ideas, how about learning a programming language?

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>>59834378
it's already pretty straight forward

Some more graphviz. This will show the connections between the currently loaded kernel modules: lsmod | awk 'BEGIN { print "digraph{" } { split($4, a, ","); for (i in a) print $1, "->", a[i] } END { print "}" }' | dot -T png -o out.png

>>59834469
is there a way to make the picture a bit narrower and taller?

What's the best wireless card? I've had good experiences with Intel, but everything else I've used has been horrible (broadcom and ath10k). Is there any good alternative that works deblobbed?

>>59834531
REKT!!
/fglt/ BTFO!!
How will /g/ survive after the lawsuit!?

>>59834576
just get a wifi adapter

can graphviz do piecharts?

So I want all the goodies that fbterm offers, like nice font rendering and all that jazz but:
>it's unmaintained
>it has a horrible scalation bug
I have to resort to X to that, unfortunately.
What I should I do to imitate the linux framebuffer console? Like having virtual terminals with ctrl+Fx, login from that console, etc? I don't care and I don't want to use a Windows Manager. I want to do all my shit in text mode.
I'll use Arch.

How do i replace libc,gcc in <the distro you are using>?
It seems musl is the best choice

>>59834765
Are you using nvidia? Cause you're gunna have a bad time

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>you jump back into linux and within 2 hours of installation, you have riced what you want to rice and have ss13 working in wine

>>59835617
No. Only Intel.

I'm having trouble booting into an encrypted Arch Linux install with a keyfile.
When I boot it up it will say:

Waiting 10 seconds for device /dev/sdc1 ...
Keyfile could not be opened.  Reverting to passphrase.

Then I can just log in with my passphrase as usual.
My bootloader options for it look like:

options cryptdevice=/dev/sda4:root cryptkey=/dev/sdc1:vfat:/keyfile root=/dev/mapper/root rw

If I boot into Arch Installation USB I can mount the usb with the keyfile then decrypt the encrypted partition with:

cryptsetup open /dev/sda4 root --key-file /mnt/keyfile

So this tells me the keyfile works correctly. I'm probably just doing something retarded or made some small mistake somewhere.

>>59835902
Probably it's using a incorrect encoding.

>>59835902
What do you have in /etc/cryptab?

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>>59835957
cryptab looks like pic related
I'm in a bootable usb right now so the drive names are a bit mixed up.
/dev/sdb = bootable USB
/dev/sdc4 = encrypted partition
/dev/sdc3 = bootloader
/dev/sdd1 = usb with keyfile

is there any i7 optimized firefox builds for linux like there for windows? (ie. fbuild dot com)

>>59835964
He really said this? Maybe templeos is litt..

>>59835902
can you use a uuid for the usbkeyfile instead of a /dev/ name? I wonder if it is getting asigned a different /dev/sdX

>>59836332
Can you give me a brief rundown of uuid and labels for partitions? I'm still pretty new to linux and I'm not sure how to use id's instead of /dev/sdX. Like do I write it like this?

cryptkey=/dev/KEY:vfat:/keyfile

Where KEY is the name or id?

>>59836388
no I can't, I don't really know enough, like if cryptsetup kernel options cna use UUIDs or not.
You might need to create a mapper to the USB in /etc/crypttab

how far along from the install are you? I would start over but with LUKS setup.

UUIDs are built into the partition table, they never change, they are unique identifier for the drive/partition so it is handy for flash drives. EG you can always mount a specific flashdrive in same mountpoint without hunting for the /dev/sdX.

>>59836550
It's fully installed and setup. I am just now trying to get it working with usb keyfile. I want to get it working properly then next weekend I am going to redo it to get rid of any mess ups I may have had in my current install.

>>59835582
Don't try to replace it in a distro that doesn't officially support it, everything will break . just use void or alpine which have musl.

>>59836550
>>59836388
ok i think you can do this

cryptkey=/dev/disc/by-uuid/%UUIDHERE%:vfat:/keyfile

where %UUIDHERE is your flashdrive partition containing the keyfile

there's no reason to say Linux

>>59836719
t. GNUmale stallcuck

>>59836749
there's no reason to say "GNUmale stallcuck"

>>59836759
t. Linux

Is there any reason to use uefi instead of """" legacy"""" boot on my laptop? Why would I even want gpt instead of MBR? I don't care about MBR's low number of partitions, and I like installing my bootloader to the mbr and not requiring a boot/efi partition.

>>59836804
MBR is limited to 2TiB.

>>59836804
not really, on linux you can boot directly from uefi though using EFIstubs without grub or whatever.

I love GNU

>>59836932
I know, I also love free software

>>59836953
m-me too

>>59835964
Stallman hasn't done anything in the past 20 years except being a cheerleader for Linux

>>59832795

>rices his PS1
>doesn't know why it says something

Typical ricer.

>>59837204
you didn't read through the thread, did you?
>I've booted into /dev/console with the init=/bin/sh kernel parameter, I can't use systemd commands
>I'm trying to bypass systemd and initialize the system by hand

>>59837248

Nope.

>fall for a meme here saying that btrfs is still unstable, but that xfs has great features, is more stable than ext4 and doesn't have bloated/messy code like ext4
>use xfs, it's great
>decide to shrink it to add a swap partition
>xfs can't be shrunk
wtf

>>59837354
lmao

>>59837354
>even if you can shrink it, you can't do it while the system is running
wtf i love Windows now

>>59837354
>Choosing file systems based on memes
The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me

>>59837408
ntfs best filesystem confirmed, lintards btfo

>>59828987
Anyone other than RMS has an opinion too.

What filesystem should I use? it seems like the only real options now are ext4, btrfs and xfs, with zfs occasionally useful. I never hear anything about reiser and jfs. Which is best for home use on a desktop? I don't really need any of btrfs features and prefer a swap file.

>>59837519
https://github.com/philipl/pifs
>πfs is a revolutionary new file system that, instead of wasting space storing your data on your hard drive, stores your data in π! You'll never run out of space again - π holds every file that could possibly exist! They said 100% compression was impossible? You're looking at it!

>>59837555
>certain strings of pi are illegal

>>59829366
Use apt, not apt-get.

>wanna change awesome textclock format
One the documentation:
wibox.widget.textclock ([format=" %a %b %d[, timeout=60]])
>try ([format=" %I:%M[, timeout=60]])
>unexpected symbol near '['
>try wibox.widget.textclock ([[, timeout=60]])
>the textclock outputs the string
Why did he write
([format = " %a %b %d[, timeout=60]])
on the documentation if it doesn't work? Are LUA programmers brainless tard monkeys? Is everything in the linux world unmaintained like this?

>>59837555
pingfs is great too.
>pingfs is a filesystem where the data is stored only in the Internet itself,
as ICMP Echo packets (pings) travelling from you to remote servers and
back again.

>>59832972
This is now in my .bashrc

I got a question.
Why doesn't my linux desktop clear the buffers on it's own?
When the buffers get overloaded i can't ssh or ftp to it, have to always reboot it.

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Since I realized that arch is shit and systemd is shit, started looking for other distro. Was thinking about fedora, but to me gnome3 is shit. What's the best distro atm without systemd and gnome3?

>>59838108
Gentoo. You even don't need xorg/

>>59838108
pick your poison
>Devuan
>Void
>CRUX
>Slackware
>Gentoo
>Funtoo
>GuixSD
>Source Mage

I suggest Void

>>59838108

>he thinks distributions are tied to desktop environments
>he doesn't even know what systemd is

Does it hurt to be as stupid as you? I mean, it's not like you'll use any distribution you choose. You're only doing it because you think it makes you cool and you'll go back to your Windows to play some videogames in a couple of minutes.

>>59838108
>wants to go without systemd
>was thinking about using fedora

what's wrong with systemd?

>>59838239
don't worry systemd is okay

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Daily reminder:
Xorg 2-3 times slower than Wayland.

>>59838272
see >>59828391

>>59838282

superkart doesn't support wayland yet.

>>59838293
is this true?
https://warosu.org/g/thread/S59701344#p59705021
>You do know that Wayland's design effectively destroys any choice and customization right? Wayland's protocol is basically an isolation prison that requires "big DE's" and destroys choice. The protocol moves everything into one central place called the "compositor" this machinery must provide:
>the window manager
>the hotkey daemon
>the compositing effects
>the windowing server
>screen reading tools
>screenshots
>screen casting
>magnifying glass tools
>global dictionary tools
>etc etc etc everything.
>Wayland's design makes it impossible to write a portable hotkey daemon for instance. Supposedly for "security reasons". Wayland is a GNOME dev's dream, it kills the ability of people to control their own system. If you're actually excited for Wayland you either thoroughly misunderstand what it brings and just like it because it's new or you're a drooling GNOME-lover who hates customization.

>>59838293
>>59838282
Try SDL2 games, SDL2 have wayland backend.
For example SuperTux.

>>59838211
are you the same guy who posts this whenever systemd is mentioned? Calling them pretentious and saying they don't know what systemd is.

>>59838312

Yes.

>>59828542
Termite, but urxvt is fine too

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>>59838300
Windows managers on wayland highly customizable, sway and velox for example.
It works faster and saves energy compared to x.org.
>composting effects
They work.
>screen reading tools
This works.
>magnifiying glass tools
Woks (picrelated).

>>59838429

>responding to idiots pretending to be even bigger idiots and talking about things they have no knowledge of but passing it off as knowledge seriously

You have to conserve your energy and stop doing it.

>>59838312
Is he wrong though? Take that guy as an example, assuming he isn't baiting in the first place

>hey guys I'm sick of systemd
>is Fedora good?

If he doesn't even know which distros don't run systemd what makes you think he actually knows what systemd is or why it might be bad?
This doesn't have anything to do with systemd itself and everything to do with underages parroting memes in order to appear "cool" and """informed""" on an obscure Iraqi forum for trucking enthusiasts.

I just noticed i3 doesn't have a notification daemon.
Which one is a good one?

>>59838900
dunst, notify-osd

>>59838900

>a window manager doesn't have a notification daemon
What a weird event. At least you didn't ask which one is the best.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_notifications#Standalone

>>59838300
yes it's true
the WMs have to do fucking everything. even shit like input control settings.
Want the user to be able to tap the touchpad on their laptop to click? Well you have to code mechanisms to cope with that, for every device.

>>59838972
samefagging, if you're not using a "Big DE" you're fucked. Little guy DEs dont have enough manpower to finetune everything wayland needs to actually be usable.

>>59838972
>>59838998

>Want the user to be able to tap the touchpad on their laptop to click? Well you have to code mechanisms to cope with that, for every device.
Totally, it's not like there are libraries like libinput for that.

I don't know much about display servers and the Wayland protocols to dispute you, but I can tell that you're full of shit and that you have no idea what you're talking about, except for regurgitating memes and FUD you saw others spread.

>>59838966
What's so weird about it?
I come from awesomewm, it had one built in. Sure, I can see it might not be the wm's task, but that's up to the devs

>>59839009
i won't rule out the idea that i'm an idiot, this isn't memes, which i don't even really see any wayaldn hating memes, it's my (albeit small) personal experience with wayland.

Nothing is clicking yet, and if/when it does, it's just going to go exactly like Xorg did; hundreds of small packages that end being a grosteque monolith in the end.

Go look at sway, all kinds of shit have to be configured in the config; DPI, touchpad, resolution, it's retarded.

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Which hacker type are you?
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7478

What's the best distro to run if I want to use KDE, that works out of the box without having to chase down drivers for Bluetooth and touchpads and shit? I've been switching between Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Arch and tons of other distros and I can't make up my mind, the only thing I've learned is that I prefer KDE and XFCE.

I'm looking at either KDE Neon, Opensuse Tumbleweed or Antergos but is there anything other I should consider?

I'm a newbie and I have recently installed Arch and along with it i3 gaps. And to be honest, it looks really ugly. How do I take something like that to the beautiful rices I see on r/unixporn? How do I make the terminal windows transparent (I use urxvt) ? How do I install themes? In general how can I de-uglify i3?

Any help appreciated.

>>59839304
touchpad drivers are the same on literally every distro because they're in the kernel. Some exceptions: distros with old kernels like Debian may have shittier/missing drivers for new hardware, but on a rolling distro like Arch you'll have no problem. Any distro is fine. KDE Neon is good, basically kubuntu with slightly better KDE integration. OpenSUSE is a great distro with KDE as well. arch with kde is also fine and should work just as well. I prefer arch to the others (if you can't install it, just use arch anywhere instead of antergos). openSUSE is great, and I don't really like ubuntu because of canonical/amazon, but you can't go wrong with any of those three.

>>59839352
just look at the config files in unixporn and copy parts of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARKIwOlazKI is a great guide on how to make it look nice. the second video is how to set up keybinds etc. Transparent terminals can be acheived with your .Xresources (not xdefaults) just follow this: https://ctkarch.org/documentation/tutorials/tuto.php?page=urxvt-transpa.xml . IMO transparency isn't worth it, quite buggy and laggy.

>>59839352

i3 configuartion files,
Xresources for the terminal.

Actually do some reading if you're going to be autistic.

>>59839392
rude
there's nothing wrong with being autistic. Autism is a superpower, not a disease.

>>59839362
I have been using Arch Anywhere with KDE but there's lots of stuff that doesn't work out of the box, even on my ThinkPad X230. I'm thinking about giving Opensuse a try but I don't know if it's the same deal there with the drivers

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I just installed an SSD on my laptop to dualboot KDE Neon with Windows 10 (I need Windows for uni and the license is free); however, despite Windows running really fast, Linux takes a long time to load, what can be the problem? I got the same setup on the default HDD and it worked just fine.
I installed Linux first because otherwise the Windows would just load as usual
>Startup finished in 7.117s (firmware) + 8.221s (loader) + 7.113s (kernel) + 3min 223ms (userspace) = 3min 22.676s

>>59839448
explain what doesn't work, someone here probably knows a fix. I wouldn't switch distro over something like that because drivers are mostly the same across distros.

>>59839448

x230 and arch here, what does't work out of the box?

>>59839461
try sudo systemd-analyze blame

>>59839466
>>59839467
It's been a while since I was running it and I did get it fixed but it was just lots of small things that required configuration like the touchpad, Wifi, Bluetooth, brightness control that didn't work and had to be adjusted through the terminal and things like that. I'm going to give Arch Anywhere another shot and see if things are better with a newer kernel and newer version of Arch Anywhere, otherwise I'll probably stick to KDE Neon

>>59839461
try disabling fast boot (sounds stupid but it may help) in BIOS, and disabling hibernation/fast boot in windows.

>>59839498

Arch linux is like that on almost all systems, not just the x230. It's a timesink.

>>59839514
t. either never tried arch or failed to install it

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>>59839469
I got this (pic from other pc with higher res)
>>59839502
I forgot to disable those on Windows, but now that I've done it, nothing has changed

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>>59839533

>btfo

>>59839498
All of that stuff can be configured using KDE software. Make sure you installed all of it, i.e. plasma or plasma-meta, not just plasma-desktop.
This has nothing to do with the kernel.

I'm using arch with kde and I wouldn't even know how to do these things with a terminal.

>>59839558
nice chinkpad poorfag
buy a dell xps next time :^)

is bumblebee/optimus still problematic? I might get a laptop with it, but intel graphics are good enough for me, so I'd like to permanently power off the nvidia GPU. can I do that?

>>59832370
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321697/why-is-looping-over-finds-output-bad-practice

>>59839558
>solarized
what is wrong with you, do you jump an every wagon?

>>59839868

What does that even mean?

Is there a rundown on the pros and cons of different distros? I'm looking to install a distro onto my desktop but I can't seem to figure out which one I want.

>>59840083

Read the wiki, would reccomend Ubuntu for first distro.

trying to use pip to install python-spotify. as soon as it downloads the package, it fails because it can't find ffi.h... I have libffi installed.

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GNU Thread
NEW
>>59840261
>>59840261
>>59840261
>>59840261
>>59840261
NEW
GNU Thread

>>59840275
>before bump limit
>no stallman pic
No.

>>59840301
GNU + Linux != GNU
Also read the fucking quote retard

>>59840309
GNU ⊂ GNU+Linux

>>59840309
Linus only started the project. Stallman wrote most of it.

Is there a way to tell if your VM's files went kaput without being able to log in?

My password is no longer my password, it would seem, across all accounts plus root. Note: I wrote the password down on a piece of paper next to my desk so it's not a pebkac.

Last thing I recall doing was updating my packages and then crashing, but that was months ago

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>>59840353
>Linus only started the project
lolwut

>>59840275
310 m8

>>59838429
nobody questioned whether they worked or not, why the fuck are you pointing that out? and again, very few in the thread are questioning Waylands performance, so why bring that up as well?

>>59839009
didn't you just dispute him by saying that though? You're disputing his knowledge

>>59839434
Its not a disease regardless you thick fuck

>>59839868
REEEE Y U NO UZ MUH THEEM?

different people prefer different themes, get the fuck over it faggot

>>59839580
is >>59839533 you?

>>59840526
>different people prefer different themes
except that every lil shitter uses solarized because it's cool amoung """serious programmers"""

>>59840554
so? why do you even care? its a fucking theme, not a nuclear weapon, its not going to harm you in any sort of fashion, why get butthurt over who is and isn't using it?

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>>59840309

>>59840578
so is he more or less saying the Linux kernel = operating system?

>>59840629
its fake you fucking retard

>>59840669
Oh im sorry, im not autistic enough to see how fake this is, my bad. Unfortunately I don't have that in built mechanism that makes me instinctively REEEE at cleverly disguised fake posts