Now that we've all realized that ryzen is kinda shit for

>>59794519
get 4 1 tb ssds
raid 0 two of them
raid 0 the two others
raid 1 the raid 0s

Also I can the the CPU last and see if it overclocks well, otherwise I can say it was scrathed and get another one that hopefully overclocks better

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01LTI1JEM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅZÕÑ&qid=1491657717&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=7700k&dpPl=1&dpID=51%2BGMhiDIiL&ref=plSrch

>>59794563
I don't understand the part where I raid 1 the two 0 raids

File: 66d.jpg (14KB, 600x469px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 600x469px

>>59794519
>Am I missing something?
Yes, half a brain

>>59794584
I know what I'm doing is retarded and I could spend the money in a way better way, but I already have everything that I need. Don't letcure me

>>59794519
>Ryzen is kinda shit for gayming
Except it really isn't. Just a bit under the 7700k bit that's like 5-7 fps difference
>580 is a way shittier 1070
>580 is not even competing with the 1070
Shitty OP, kill yourself.

>>59794601
Don't be butthurt at me dude, I'm not a fanboy of any company but in this case this is just the reality

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/641kkp/titan_xp_goodness_was_delivered_today_photos_and/

>Upcoming

Anon, buyers already received their TITAN XP since yesterday

>>59794601
Then who is it competing against poojet? The 480? Lmao

File: 1491587410124.jpg (186KB, 900x1200px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 900x1200px

>>59794519

>>59794622
Good luck with that in Europe. I bet it will be at least one month until you can get here

>>59794612
>>59794623
When you say dumb shit like "580 is a way shittier 1070", what did you expect?
AMD has no answer for the 1070 yet, because we've been """waiting""" for Vega forever.

>>59794649
Lmao dumd indian gets his shit going pretty easily

File: amdfag.jpg (3MB, 8624x3896px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 8624x3896px

>>59794630

>>59794649
What I meant what the AMD's soon to be released GPU isn't even close to a one year old mid range Nvidia card, don't be so angry dude

>only shitposts
>no actual responses

I guess my parts picking was right then. Thanks

>>59794715
>This is me angry
I'm just calling out OP for being a retard, for even trying to compare the 1070 to anything.

>>59794598
I wasn't lecturing you, just shitposting. If you want a proper reply, I'd get a 5960X, put it under water and click it up to 4.8 GHz, with more games being multithreaded these days it's probably one of the best high end CPUs you can get right now, it's better than the 6900K, simply because it can clock much higher.

>>59794623
Yes.

You know, the card for people who want to play at 1080p and 75fps with freesync, getting all the joy without spending stupid amounts of money.

>>59794779
I assume you said the 6950x, in which case I'd tell you it still has lower single threaded performance than games and as of right no, no game uses more than 4 cores and don't forget, the 6950x still overclocks way lower than a 7700k. By your logic of looking in the future I should just wait for cannon lake which is even better than what you said

>>59794815
He said 5960x, nigger. Read his post carefully you worthless sack of shit. 5960x clocks higher than 6900k and 6950x. kys you'reselve

>>59794815
>no game uses more than 4 cores
Found the retard

>>59794827
It's still weaker than 7700k in single core which most games prefer and as I said I care about right now not a few years

>>59794859
If you want a worse, stuttering pile of shit I won't try to stop you. Just don't spread wrong information you fucking worthless piece of garbage.

File: IMG_2649.png (112KB, 806x580px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 806x580px

>>59794882
At least muh coarz amd do better than a 2 core i3... oh wait

>>59794859
Right now any modern AAA title benefits from more cores, either directly by using them or indirectly by using all 4 and having 2-4 still available for background processes.

Stop being a stupid cunt

>>59794902
>gamersnexus
Dumbass.

>>59794904
Show me a benchmark where a 7700k loses to a 5960x in games at 1080p. Go show me at least 1

>>59794916
are you OP? 1080p?
time to end you'reselve

File: IMG_2564.jpg (102KB, 601x806px) Image search: [Google]

102KB, 601x806px

>>59794914
>x
>waaaaah not fair cuz my poo in loo lost

Laughable

>>59794902
>Gamersnexus
Into the trash it goes.

>>59794925
>going to buy a 1080p 240hz monitor
>"you gonna use 1080?"
Kyss

>>59794927
>Less than 6% difference before windows and bios updates
Good work faggot

>>59794961
The picture is after the BIOS update you poor nigger

>>59794948
Nice work wasting money on a meme, kid.

120hz is all you need, which would let you have a 1440p IPS.

>>59794972
>'the BIOS update'
There's more than 1 motherboard and more than 1 update, dickhead.

Lets see what happens when the 1600X reviews are up, with windows updated, mature BIOS' and 3200-3600mhz RAM

Protip: It's going to be within 3-4% of the 7700K in most games, and beat the shit out of it in more and more going into the future

>>59794974
https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG258Q/

>>59794790
So for people that don't want the best. Got It.

AMD makes cards that compete with their old cards. What a great strategy.

>>59794563
what about

raid 0

the raid 0s

File: IMG_2801.png (514KB, 500x498px) Image search: [Google]

514KB, 500x498px

>>59794994
Like the 1800x did? Lmao

>>59795001
>1080p
>TN
>1000:1 contrast
Top fucking kek

>>59794994
>amd is going to release a mid range cpu that will outperform its high end cpu

You are stupid as bricks

File: ryzen.jpg (41KB, 600x450px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 600x450px

>>59795009
Nice cherry pick faggot, i can do that too

>>59795015
You mean just like intel where the 7700K beats the 6900K in most games?

Stupid fuck

File: Ryzen-Far-Cry-Primal-2160p-Ultra-Preset.png (11KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 800x600px

I'd go for a 5820k or 5960x
They both clock to around 4.8Ghz and hold up much better than the 4 core model.
Quad cores can't keep up when you move to resolutions above 1080

>7700k
Ugh 4 core Stutterlake, just buy 6950x and overclock it dumbass

File: NTdOp4B.gif (665KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

665KB, 500x281px

>>59794519
>Now that we've all realized that ryzen is kinda shit for gayming
literally proven the opposite of truth, but congrats on reaching a whole different level of asininity

>>59795043
You are comparing two different generaions brainlet
>>59795102
I'm buying a 240hz 1080p monitor, not going above 1080p until 240hz 1440p appears

>>59794577
What is it you don't get?

>>59795146

Let me rephrase that.
They hold up better in all of the newer games and experience less frame drops, especially you're doing anything that requires more than 60fps or higher resolution than 1080p
Quad core is fine for 60fps @ 1080p, but anything more demanding and newer games will greatly benefit from +4 cores.
Not to mention the 5820k or 5960x is probably the best thing you can buy now anyways.
They're going to have long as fuck lifespan and that older gen clocks way higher than the 6800k or 6900k.

File: IMG_3088.jpg (466KB, 2061x1242px) Image search: [Google]

466KB, 2061x1242px

>>59795217
You are full of shit dude. At over 60fps you benefit from really fast cores that can feed the gpu information fast enough rather than more slow cores

>>59795141
>literally proven the opposite of truth,
No it hasn't

He said gaming, stop recommending the R7, you'll just get called a shill, how fucking dumb can you be /g/.

>>59794519
I think going 2 titan xp is too much if you will just use the rig for gaming, and then if you're going 2x then why not max out your ram to 64?

>>59795010
OP is baiting at this point. 240hz is a fucking meme you can't even tell the difference from 120hz to 144hz. TN on 240hz has some of the worst colors I've seen in my life as well.
t. 1440p144hzIPS

I want OP to kill hisselve so we can get peace and quiet.

>>59795258

>Slow cores.
Did you see the part where I say that they OC well?
I've seen multiple of those CPUs hit 4.8Ghz on this board alone.
That's not slow by any means of the word and not far behind the 7700k.

>>59795304
Because as I said I want as many fps as possible, and the newer titan xp has even faster ram than the 1080ti and more cudas and rops
>>59795331
Dude I seriosly think you are autistic. Whay part of best do you not understand? I never said I want something ALMOST the best as of right now, but really the best

>>59794519
you need a 6850x or a 6900k to get enough sli lanes to not bottleneck those gpu's

leddit: the post

File: Selection_20170408_17:04:56.png (12KB, 451x109px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 451x109px

>>59794961

File: Selection_20170408_17:05:40.png (22KB, 363x150px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 363x150px

>>59795035

>>59795347

You're fucking stupid. At 4.8ghz you're gonna be like 5% behind in general, which is like 5 fps in most games.

Do you really want to trade in that much multithreading performance and futureproofing for fucking 5 fps

File: 70b0a954d7d18089ea1f42363df80d2e.png (71KB, 626x462px) Image search: [Google]

71KB, 626x462px

>>59795347

How about you take a moment and think for a second or three before you type.
6-8 core model reaches nearly the same clockspeed as a 4 core model and newer games benefit from more than 4 cores.
Pic related is at stock speeds, look at the minimum frames.
Just in case you don't get it, higher core count gets you way higher minimum frames and a more stable experience.
Trade-off is that the maximum frame rate doesn't momentarily climb as high, but that doesn't mean jack shit.

>>59794519
>>59794612
>ryzen is kinda shit for gaming
I'm not the anon you responded to but this isn't reality, it is disinformation. Ryzen isn't shit for gaming, the only scenario where a 7700k is a better choice is if you play at 1080p with a 144hz monitor. Otherwise, the marginal fps gains you receive aren't going to be noticed.

File: tvtkbtb.jpg (374KB, 2400x2000px) Image search: [Google]

374KB, 2400x2000px

Just get 6950x if you hate Ryzen, Dont be corelet

File: 14916623298010.png (45KB, 568x318px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 568x318px

>slow cores
That's right.

>>59794519
>am I missing something?
Liquid nitrogen cooling.

File: ryzen gaymen.png (66KB, 641x770px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 641x770px

>>59794902
excellent cherry pick my man

File: g6CPmWq2TJxinmAbcfRU26-650-80.png (67KB, 601x814px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 601x814px

>>59795146
>You are comparing two different generaions brainlet

7700k and 5820k-5960x are different generations (haswell-e and kaby lake), 7700k and 6900k are the same generation (skylake-e and kaby lake (skylake refresh))

>>59795347
>Because as I said I want as many fps as possible

'as many fps as possible' in this case is a few fps extra (<10%, usually <5%) in games where single core performance matters and a few fps loss in games where multicore performance matters

pic related puts stock 7700k 2% ahead of a stock 5930k in a decently fair selection of games

>I never said I want something ALMOST the best as of right now, but really the best

7700k is the best if all you give a shit about is a handful of games where single core performance is king in which case you might get 5-10% extra fps on the upper end (which at 110fps is like 11fps difference) but then you lose a shit ton of performance if you ever want to do something but game

never mind that the market for 240hz monitors is quake and csgo players where any midrange computer can get >200fps on 1080p if you drop settings, all other games you'll be lucky to get >144fps

>>59795589
>Do you really want to trade in that much multithreading performance and futureproofing for fucking 5 fps


it's even worse when considering futureproofing because he's shooting himself in the foot with titan sli on z170, he'll have to go with a stupidly expensive motherboard with a plx chip to get 16x/16x (with a huge latency penalty on single gpu games where sli is broken or disabled) and trade in a ton of expandability when it comes to other pci devices (including m.2 ssds) otherwise he's going to be stuck on 8x/8x which is far worse than the performance drop going to skylake-e or even haswell-e which give at least 16x/8x on the cheap cpus and 16x/16x on the regular cpus along with a bunch of expandability

>>59795808

Holy fuck Ryzen surpasses Intel in IPC?

That cant be right

>>59796171
IPC has been a meme metric since the introduction of superscalar processors.
It's a nearly meaningless buzzword.

Whenever people say "IPC", they really mean "performance of my favorite proprietary applications per clock cycle".

>>59796160
>7700k and 6900k are the same generation (skylake-e and kaby lake (skylake refresh))
Broadwell-E senpai, HEDT is always a generation or so behind the mass-market shit

>>59796262

How is it a meme when IPC was the reason failldozer was so shit.

Clearly it matters, what youre saying now is that it just isnt measured properly

File: 1080ti.jpg (77KB, 774x586px) Image search: [Google]

77KB, 774x586px

I have a ryzen 1800x with a 1080ti and the overall performance is pretty amazing!

>>59796308
It's impossible to give an objective measure of IPC.

>>59796350

Whats the closest we can get at least?

File: [HorribleSubs] Hibike! Euphonium S2 - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_32.03_[2016.10.06_06.53.21].jpg (164KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

164KB, 1280x720px

>>59794519
what are you going to do with that?
browse /g/ at 9001fps?

>>59796419
I can accept people saying "(average) gaming performance per clock" or something similar.

I know it's convenient to have a 3-letter acronym but it's misleading. Ryzen is excellent at rendering and compiling for instance.

Maybe I'm just overly autistic in that matter.
As a rough gauge "IPC" when referring to popular applications is probably okay.

>>59796321
>getting gimped nvidia drivers

>>59795276
Yes

>>59796444

t. poorfag

also checked

Why would you get a 4 core, OP?

Get an Intel Ocotocore, you'll need it for PS3 emulation since it supports 8 cores.

>>59796273

I get that and I was considering even posting it, my justification was that around skylake-e's release I did a bit of research on ipc and came to the conclusion that the hedt chips were on par or even a little better than the refresh chips in the gen they're supposed to be in (all except haswell-e, but devils canyon was one hell of a refresh), which led me to the conclusion that while a gen behind the distinction isn't a big one (outside of chipset and maybe some features older hedts)

however I can't find any benchmarks now at a fixed clock rate, and I know ipc performance isn't the defining factor of generations which makes what I said (and my justification ^) wrong and I'll own up to that but I just thought I'd add a little perspective to it

(and fwiw, broadwell was looking like it had some insane ipc gains, too bad they never released any proper desktop chips)

MacBook Air

>>59795572

>Being this gay

>>59796444
Competitive shitposting

>>59796308
>How is it a meme when IPC was the reason failldozer was so shit.

the reason bulldozer was so shit is that it was so far behind intel's sandy bridge in ipc it wasn't even funny, it barely even competed in multi-core performance and we're comparing top of the line 8 core bulldozers to run of the mill intel sandy bridge 4c4t or even just 4c 2400/2500k/2600k chips, the fx-8150 did better than the 2600k in *some* strictly multi-core performance benchmarks but the 2400 beat it in multi-core benchmarks that required any single threaded performance at all

not only that, in gaming benchmarks bulldozer usually did *worse* than the previous generation of amd family 10h chips, it was a complete and utter failure in the desktop market not only for anyone looking to upgrade from their phenoms but to anyone looking to buy amd over intel, it was only an option if you wanted a strictly multi-core performance 2600k for ~$50 less - the 2500k was usually a far better deal (never mind that sandy bridge was one of intel's best generations, even compared to previous intel generations)

ryzen on the other hand is very competitive in single core performance (it's barely a generation or two behind in single core performance and we're in an era where intel ipc hasn't improved that much over sandy bridge/bulldozer days) however where it shines is that it completely surpasses multi-core performance on any of intel's mass market chips and is extremely competitive in multi-core performance to intel's hedt chips, $500 ryzens compete favourably to $1k intel hedt chips and they flat out beat much of the sub $500 intel hedt chips

ryzen is still behind intel but assuming you don't want or need that remaining 10% performance, that is usually only reached in extreme (usually synthetic) cases, it's a completely viable alternative

as far as (current) ryzen in gaming goes, it's not going to beat a 7700k but neither are intel's own 5820k-5960x or 6800-6950x lineup

>>59794577
what's there to not understand?
you get yourself a raid 1 of your raid 0s

it's as if you'd get a normal raid 1
just instead of two single drives you are taking two drives in raid 0

Better investment:

240hz monitor is useless for you unless you're fucking hardcore into Quake or Overwatch or some other fast game. Even then, you might consider getting the BenQ 2540 and strobing at around 180hz for better motion clarity. In any case, whatever fast TN you get for your professional FPS gaming (I'm sure you're in a team), you should invest in a VA on the side for single player gaming with something resembling proper static contrast.

You should also consider VR.

A proper anal massage device is something that is definitely within your budget.

You make enough money for really nasty shit. Save up a bit and you can kill someone. People in a lot of debt will sometimes sell their lives in China to support their families, which is an opportunity for you.

Assuming you live in America, you can buy weapons and leave them in school yards. You can just casually walk by and throw a rifle over the fence, kids will go nuts.

Consider purchasing/making poison and spiking people's food/drinks. It's been done before and it's really not difficult:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Swango

File: 1491666559374-pol.jpg (27KB, 294x325px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 294x325px

>>59794519
>7700k 5ghz meme
My 7700k maxes out at 4.8ghz with +1.315v.

>>59797875
You're supposed to reach 5ghz at around 1.4v while you shouldn't go over 1.45v.

>>59799134
Cooling is a problem tho. I have a cryorig h5 universal and at 4.6 I start hitting 95°c under load.

>>59796476
No

>>59799249
>I start hitting 95°c under load.
You know what time it is.

>>59799379
Delid time?
I will never do it by hand again that is how a destroyed my friends 6600k.

I need to buy that tool but currently I'm putting together a old secure t400.

>>59799408
>Delid time?
Exactly. Fucking jew shit under the IHS fucking Intel just fucking die already.

>>59794710
that kid has some mondo tits

>>59794519
If money is no object sure, otherwise a 1700 is as good or better than even current Gen I5 for the same price after including motherboard difference.

>>59799419
I will down the road. I don't need the performance now, what water cooler is best? Is it even worth it compared to the cryorig h5.

>>59799481
There's no point in watercooling unless you want some custom loop. Just slap the biggest tower cooler possible.

>>59795304
R7 IS superior for 4k gaming. Especially if he wants high end everything since that implies he wants multitasking like dual monitors with streaming, voice apps, chat apps, browser, etc.

>>59795589
Not all ghz are equal dude. Otherwise that pentium 4 would still be good.

>>59799500
What cooler do you recommend? Also thanks for the suggestion.

Good goy

>>59796321
I'm planning on getting a AMD gpu. The 1060 nvidia drivers keep crashing when slightly overclocked.

>>59799622
>I'm planning on getting a AMD gpu. The 1060 nvidia drivers keep crashing when slightly overclocked.

>tfw AMD drivers crash when slightly overclocked too

>>59799718
;_;

>>59795572
baka Grammar check my post too senpai

>>59799736
Might just be me, but having a good experience with a GPU is 10% Manufacturer, 20% Brand, and 70% luck.

File: Untitled.png (6KB, 376x178px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 376x178px

If you care ONLY about gaymes:

AMD rx470 or 480 (or Vega)
Intel Pentium Kaby Lake ($50-70)

Enjoy your ultra 1080p gaming.

>>59794519
>ryzen is kinda shit for gayming
sure thing shlomo

>>59796171
>OY VEY HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE GOYIM DELID DELID

>>59801101

Kek, i just placed an order for a 1700x, im just surprised that its surpassing intel. I would have guessed it would match Intel but surpassing isnt what i expected.

File: IMG_2558.jpg (478KB, 1997x1232px) Image search: [Google]

478KB, 1997x1232px

>>59801150
Except it's not

>>59801166

>countershit

Kys

>>59801166
what, no quake 2 benchmark handy?

File: IMG_3092.png (2MB, 2208x1242px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2208x1242px

Nigga if you watercool that shit goes way over 5ghz lmao

>>59794519
>kinda shit
>maybe 10fps drop from an equivalent Intel chip that is $100+ more
>all tests show it well over 120fps maxed out
>maxed out Intel has no more overhead space, Ryzen is purring along at 43% meaning it can do far more before shit hits the roof

Naw shill boy, I'm still getting a Ryzen R7-xxxx when it's time to upgrade.

>>59801241
I'm getting a 240hz monitor. Every fps matters for me, if you go amd maybe you can't afford intel but I don't care about $10 I am spending more

>>59794758
You should be thanking him for thinking that a 580 would be even remotely close to a mid range card like the 1070.

>going all out
>still using a SATA 3 SSD

Come on, just get a PCIe SSD or at least an M.2,

>>59801380
Came here to say this.

>>59801236

This is a golden chip though, most people will cap out at about 5ghz.

>le gayming
>240Hz monitor

Save the money, buy a gun and a mag and fucking kill yourself or jump in front of the next truck coming your way, you fucking faggot.

>>59801256
>can't afford
Naw bud, my first tower was $2,800. Dollars don't matter to me, however the extra CPU space does. It means the Ryzen R7 has room to spare for future expansion. Whereas the Intel chip set is maxed out, they have no more room until they get their 7nm chip sets on good enough silicon to beat the mature chips they have now.

So my next build (most likely next year) will probably be AM4 socket, with a gen2 R7.

>>59794519
>ryzen is kinda shit for gayming
>Worst case scenario is about 10 FPS in 1080p-with-a-1080/Titan DX11 benches

>rx580 is just a way shittier 1070
>Somehow surprising that a GPU about twice the price is faster

Also:
>Plan on doing dual $1200 GPUs
>Still go with a $340 CPU and standard SATA SSD

I'd say you're either retarded or then this is just another Ryzen troll thread. My personal guess is the latter because this isn't /v/ and only /v/ can be this retarded when it comes to budgeting hardware.

>>59794519
>rx580 is just a way shittier 1070
?

do u mean 1060 u fucking retard nigger

>>59794601
You can tell it's a shill thread when they make it a point to open the very first sentence with Ryzen bashing. Gotta get their message in ASAP for all the low attention span retards..

>>240hz asus monitor
>not 38" ultrawide
full retard

>>59794710
>>59794630
this is what i imagine /r/pcmasterrace looks like

>>59796444
Calculate tripcodes

Ugh. anyone manage to snag a GTX 1080TI either from EVGA or MSI or ASUS yet? the OC'ed ones..... I just got wind of the non-FE cards with the cool heat sinks on them on friday but i freaking got cucked cause i went to take a dump and there was a 15 minute window to buy one of the cards and then they were all out of stock again..... fuck. good thing i'm neeting cause ima be home all day hitting F5. hopefully my dad doesn't cuck me cause the dump cucked me last time.

>>59802470
just install an aftermarket cooler yourself

File: 1f01439fb1cc362b039b22e1b09ea90f2ade1e68485fee7988a27a8f9087c47f.jpg (16KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 225x225px

>>59802497
Sure i'll install a nice fat one that takes up x3 PCI express slots in height for one card. then i'll stuff it in your tranny ass and make your gape strech out so much.

>>59794563
just use raid 10 lmao

>>59794577
Performance of raid 0 with redundancy of 1

>>59794601
This. Op is a retard.

File: 1491697157[1].png (127KB, 1000x414px) Image search: [Google]

127KB, 1000x414px

>>59796321
1800x/1080Ti here too, waiting to see if Vega is good because these drivers suck ass.

>>59796171
Look at the clock speeds. They downclocked the 7700K to the R7s level. The only reason why the 7700K has higher IPC is because it's higher clocked.

>>59802940
Most other benchmarks show Ryzen IPC being about 6-7% behind KAby Lake in IPC, even AMD claim the same.

>And that's a really awesome place to be, when Ryzen is only 6% slower than Intel's newest Kaby Lake architecture clock-for-clock in CInebench single-thread right out of the gate...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3378010/join-tom-hardware-amd-thursday-april-6th.html#r19527187

>>59795601

Holy shit I did not expect to step away from this thread with useful knowledge

>>59802965
Imagine the Ryzen refresh possibilities

>>59803146
Let's just hope they're above releasing non-improvements every year like Intel do.

>>59794519
Just get a fuckin 1080ti and use the money you save on drugs or a whore.

>>59794916
>titan XP sli
>1080p
Is this for the 500fps gaymen?

>>59802965

So its identical to broadwell then. Thats not too bad

>>59803836
Broadwell-E, and no it's not bad at all.

>>59794519
>Now that we've all realized that ryzen is kinda shit for gayming and the upcoming rx580 is just a way shittier 1070,
For people who cannot spend a grand on hardware or are not willing to this does not matter because AMD offers better performance for the price (with some exceptions like Europe tax because of imports IIRC).

>>59803846

Is there any point in getting broadwell-e now then? Bdw-e has a voltage wall right around 4.2 ghz, since Ryzen hits 4ghz stable on most 1700x's it seems like BDW-E has become irrelevant.

>>59803884
If you already have BW-E there's no point to buying a Ryzen chip, and vice versa.

The benefit to BW=E I guess is being able to overclock better, 6900K can get a decent bit over 4.1GHz while 4.2GHz is the absolute maximum Ryzen appears to be capable of without LN2.

>>59804005

Im talking about someone who has to choose between BDW-E and Ryzen when making a purchase.

Also, 4.2 is possible on Ryzen? I thought they all hit a voltage wall at 4ghz?

>>59804223
No, the 1800X can hit 4.1 fairly easily, some people just get unlucky. 4.2 is much more silicon lottery based.

>>59804245

What about the 1700x? I just placed an order on one

>>59803884
pcie lanes and memory bandwidth, if whatever you're doing really needs them

also ryzen sucks for avx compared to bdw-e, but that shit's niche as fuck for now

>>59804341
Basically the 1800X except 0.1GHz lower, so you have around the same chances of getting 4.0 on the 1700X as you do getting 4.1 on the 1800X, same with 3.9 and 4.0 on the 1800X, but I Think all three Ryzen 7 chips can get to 3.8 no problem.

>>59795006
You have literally been convinced of what best "is" , you retarded goy. People like you make me yearn for the end of society

>>59794519
This is why you will always be middle class scum.

>>59797875
I know who are these fucks getting 4.9Ghz+ I got one from microcenter bought the replacement plan so i could swap it out if it was a shit chip. Took it back with the no questions asked return plan I bought have had two now best one was 4.75Ghz @ 1.4v any thing higher is no boot.

>>59799872
>Offering sensible advice
>On gee
You're lost.

>>59801256
>I'm getting a 240hz monitor. Every fps matters for me
I hope you're saving for eye upgrades as well, retard.

>>59801256
>unironically buying TN trash
>2010+7

>>59801241
This

>>59801256
Get ryzen if you want the highest possible minimum frames. 7700K can boost the average but ends up bottlenecking when stuff goes hectic. Im getting ryzen for 3440x1440 monitor so I can maintain high fps without drops and have a future proof CPU that can run 6+ core optimised games in the next year

>>59804736
I believe 5Ghz+ is when it's delidded and water cooled.

File: 1491162177110.png (55KB, 764x954px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 764x954px

The shillfag mind is stuck in pre-update march

File: 1491681884217.png (451KB, 570x542px) Image search: [Google]

451KB, 570x542px

>>59794519

you'll get higher frame rates with a pair of xeon e7-8893 v4's and 4 quadro P6000's. the P6000 is faster than the titan XP and the xeons have 24 cores/48 threads at 3.5 max with 85gb/s memory bandwidth and 60mb cache.

you'll want a NAS array of at least 10 PCI-E SSD's with risers and cables.

you'll be able to use up to 4TB of ddr4 1866 ram. i don't know about windows 10, but i know you can run windows 7 straight off of RAM with firadisk drivers.

watercool everything because you can.

of course it's 60,000+ of computer. but it'll run crysis.

>>59804927
the 8893 is 4c/8t

>>59805040

oh yeah, it's the 8894.

>>59805056
https://ark.intel.com/products/family/93797/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-v4-Family#@Server

I honestly don't even understand the point of the 8893. It's a 4c/8t part with 3.2ghz base clock and 3.5ghz boost yet it costs $7k while a 24c/48t with 3.4ghz boost will only set you back $2k more than that.

>>59794519
Watercooling is a meme
Go back to v

>>59805140

yeah that occurred to me. i dunno.

i just wish that someone could figure out how to crack xeons for overclocking. i'm always checking ebay for engineering sample chips and i research them if i find something that seems promising but no cigar. the last ones that could be overclocked were lga771's on a certain motherboard.

>>59805140
niche markets who want a lot of faster cores (eg: financial shit) and can throw stupid money at an 8-socket system

8 of them gives you a pretty fast 32c/64t setup with lots of ram and i/o for HFT or the like

>>59805190
Surely a marginally slower base clock with 10 cores and 20 threads would be better buy when it's basically the same price but I guess I'll never understand that market segment.

ATI's biggest problem is that they're constantly rolling out cool tech for video games of tomorrow, while nvidia builds shit that works better for today. Their DX11 performance was trash, dx12 is hopeful, but an optimized vulkan game runs well on just about any of their GCN arch (well, presumably I guess- DOOM is the only one, lel).

They constantly seem to do stupid shit though, and it seems like they could give less of a fuck about vidya when it's their firepro cards from enterprise companies that butter their bread. It's hard to listen to Raja Pajeet talk about how the size of your VRM doesn't matter because you've got sooooo much bandwidth to swap textures in and out on the fly- meanwhile their HBM furys are a stuttering mess while that happens. GDDR5x comes out and suddenly that super expensive HBM means fuck all.

Real ace in the hole will be freesync 2 with HDR- only assuming it doesn't cost royalties like nvidia's does.

AMD has always meant value for performance to me. Never the best, but always 'good enough' and at the right price. 2nd gen ryzen should be a keeper. I'll be waiting on this 4.7ghz 2500k until then.

>>59805207

high frequency trading has aspects where latency is king above all. i have little doubt some applications use i7-K chips simply because a chip at 6ghz can perform a 20 step process that decides when to trade in half the time even 196 core/ 392 thread servers can do it.

>>59805229

who the fuck uses firepros when all the major software packages are designed around quadro?

i know that there's surely no fucking resource extraction or military firms using firepros rather than quadro+teslas.

>>59805244
Which is why I would assume they would use consumer chips as they generally have higher clocks, do they have a need for ECC RAM and other 'workstation' features, generally?

>>59805265

probably, but they're making enough money to pay someone to set up a network where they have some regular big servers and several 'tip-of-the-spear' computers with 7790K's or whatever with three out of four cores shut down and fluorinert phase exchange cooling.

or shit i don't know maybe they use SPARC processers to do that stuff.

>>59805261
>who the fuck uses firepros
Very few people, but that has less to do with the raw differences between the hardware as with the differences with OpenCL and Cuda, and the relative nonexistance of the market AMD envisioned for OpenCL solutions.

>>59794630
wtf, all that.... for Minecraft's...

and he didn't have the decency to mod it so it really uses any gpu....

>>59794630
this is how i see people who buy a titan for gaming.... at all...(unless its for vr...)

>>59805261

People who bought the trashcan Mac Pro.

>>59794563
lol its a toy gaming station anyway, just raid0 everything and backup often

>>59801166
Post a bench of doom 1 too

>>59794630
serious question. Is it just me or does that kid look depressed?

>>59807912

>diagnosing depression from a still image

He looks tired, probably didn't sleep the night he got them. Probably thinking about his LED configurations.

Wait for sky lake-E

1080 Ti has a way better price ratio, but Vega will beat it at 4K with massive bus

So Vega X2 crossfire, Skylake-E, with nVME PCIe 2280's in RAID (44+ pipelines)

And you're squared

>>59805229
Um, yeah, because Ati was AMD when the 4870 came out with highly successful GDDR5...

And when AMD threw out Ati code and started anew with successful GCN? Total failure right!?

Even bulldozer wasn't a complete failure because AMD still got Jaguar into console and now they've got custom designs being made for Scorpio (7B transistor APU)

So where did AMD fail with 'new tech' again?

>>59796419
It's important to note that different applications stress CPU cores in different ways, and there are only so many resources available on a single CPU core to handle any given series of instructions. But trying to distill everything down into a single metric is stupid when it's used so differently in many different applications.

One type of application that would absolutely murder IPC on any given CPU would be one that branches way more than it needs to. Sure, you have branch prediction engines on all semi-modern CPU's to counter the effects of branching code paths, but they only help up to a certain point. Overload those systems with a stupid amount of branches and you'll end up with an application that can technically measure IPC, but skews the results in favour of CPU's with the most powerful branch predictors.

On the other end, you could write an application that minimizes the amount of branches (which is typically considered good practice, btw), and primarily performs floating point operations on values of a given size (16, 32, 64, 128-bit, you get the idea). This application would then favour CPU's that have the largest number of, and most sophisticated, means of performing calculations on those types of variables.

Rinse and repeat for integer-types, SIMD, and any other types of data available.

It's not possible to objectively compare the IPC between 2 given processors under a single umbrella definition of IPC, given the wide scope of different types of data that instructions operate on. But what you can do is measure it on a per-application basis, while hoping the application itself makes it obvious what type of data it typically operates on. Catch-all benchmarks are cancer.

>>59807944
>1080 Ti has a way better price ratio, but Vega will beat it at 4K with massive bus

Citation needed

>>59794710
This kid is huge tits. not the im a fat fuck kinda tits the im transitioning kinda tits.

>>59795572
>proving his point about cherrypicking
baka desu senpai

>>59795102
god tier 5820k so glad I got one.

>>59808194
There's articles (recent) about Vega and 4K performance. AMD claims to be killing it.

I expect virtually all comparisons this May to be in 1080p and 1440p with crys for 'muh Hz'

>>59794519
>sata SSD
Stupid /v/ nigger.

1080 Ti (fuck SLI)
7700K at 5.1 GHz
z270 board with two M.2s
2x 240Gb NVME M.2s
32Gb DDR4 3200

>>59794601
The thing people don't realize is that Ryzen isn't a shitty CPU for gaming

Does it perform (marginally) worst than a same specced system with a 7700K? Yes, but you aren't completely gimping your GPU by going with Ryzen.

In terms of multithreaded workloads Ryzen blows intels i7 consumer line out of the fucking water. Gaming while streaming, rendering, and other CPU intensive tasks is miles better on Ryzen than it is on Intel. Trying to stream at 720p 3500cbr x264 while playing at 1440p on a 6700k with 980Tis in SLI is a fucking nightmare and I really wish that I didn't cheap out because x99 mobos with the same feature set as z170 were expensive at the time. Oh well you live and learn.

>>59809652
Try 7700k it's about 10% better than 6700k

>>59809490
7700k only has 16 pcie lanes taken by the GPUs you autistic indian

>>59810126
>10% hotter
FTFY.

>>59810151
hahahaha

>>59809490
>I absolutely need 10GB/s to load muh Overshit in 4 seconds instead of 5

kys /v/irgin

>>59808317
Yeah with 4k becoming so ubiquitous I dont understand why all benchmarks are at 1080p.

>>59810185
>I absolutely need an i7 7700k so my game gets 10 fps instead of 9.

>>59810222
Not even a 1080Ti can consistently deliver 60fps at 4K + ultra preset.