How did linux become so good all of a sudden? I mean, it actually

>>59778059
Thank you, Bлaдиcлaв. 27 hryvnia have been deposited to your Paypal account.

>>59778059
Fuck you. What is your desktop environment?

>>59778070
Cпacибo!

>>59778073
Unity, bitch.

>>59778081
Unity is gonna die. Then you Windows.

>>59778059
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Sucks (Gnome 3 proves it)

>>59778097
Gnome is shit now.

Mate is good, but I like Unity's tacky looking dock.

>>59778093
Unity 7 has support until 2021, slut.

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>>59778059
>all of a sudden
>ignoring all the years of collective effort

>>59778365
>all the years
10 years ago, most people had never even heard of linux.

>>59778384
I had, unfortunately.

>>59778384
BTFO

Because command line assburgers worshipping broken shit nobody wants to use finally lost, and reasonable people became more influential in Linux development.

>>59778384
>TFW lives in 3rd world shithole
>heard about Linux 15 years ago

>>59778059
>Ubuntu is as easy to use as Winblows now.

You mean Ubuntu was

Desktop Linux is dead. Canonical is going to abandon all efforts for it and focus on their profitable projects.

The most popular desktop distribution was unprofitable for many years and now it is finally dead.

>inb4 GNOME shills thinking that normal people will use their trash DE

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/canonical-ubuntu-job-losses-outside-investors

>>59778498
t. shill

>>59778093
Then gnome3

>>59778498
who cares honestly, the people that care about ubuntu are normies, and clearly normies didn't even really care about it anyways, since it sucks annd failed

>>59778498
>Ubuntu is dead because they ended the touch project to focus on desktop and servers.

Some people really have no idea what thye're talking about

>>59778498
damn, guess we should all move over to the billion+ company supporting a distro.
how much is suse making? they aren't operating in the red are they?

>>59778536
Read the article you fucking imbecile, they laid off the people working on the Unity 8 DESKTOP. Phone is kill just like desktop Ubuntu.

Now the relationship between Canonical and Ubuntu is going to be the same as Red Hat and Fedora. Their desktop is going to be just usable enough for enterprise they don't give a shit about mass desktop market anymore.

The money is on IoT and the Cloud, Ubuntu Desktop is dead.

>>59778536
You still do not get it, do you? There is no more Ubuntu desktop other than some minimal Gnome enterprise version. But Ubuntu will remain a stable base for other desktop environments. I doubt that things like gaming and driver support will even be important to Canonical now. This is going to have a mayor impact as Canonical basically withdraws from the user desktop and there is no other party to take their place. We are not only going to lose mobile support we are going to lose user desktop support from vendors as well. People in the community have never fully realized the importance of Canonical and Ubuntu for the user desktop. Well thank Stallman and his Gnome lot for opposing them every step of the way trumping up ridiculous charges and turning the community against them.

>>59778456
Thank you based Lennart.
>>59778498
Normal people didn't use Ubunty just because they liked Unity. Thet'll get used to GNOME 3 just fine.

>>59778592
And you're way underestimating the role of Red Hat/Fedora. They've been paying people to develop shit that the rest of the community can actually use, unlike Canonical.

>>59778498
>>59778592
Godammit, this really means desktop Linux has come to an end. Unity was the only DE that offered you sane defaults, was modern and didn't required you to waste time configuring stuff.

I hope the GNU zealots are happy, their hate for Ubuntu was one of reasons for this.

>>59778059
FINALLY, 2017 IS YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP
But who am I kidding, Canonical will spend its money on some retarded shit and nobody has the brain to spend something on marketing for Mint/Kubuntu that targets average people. 90% of all people only need their webbrowser and something to watch videos of their stupid cat and to edit the tits of their wive bigger on vacation pics and could use Windows 95, but the linux community is literally to autistic for marketing.

>>59778577
Yeah, because all releases including zesty boot on unity8 by default, right?

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>>59778641
Now instead of something goof you will have delicious GNOME 3 shoved down your asshole, hope you enjoy it, faggot.

>>59778651
delet this pic right now

>>59778498
>Delusional Lunix fanboys want to convince people that Desktop Linux is a serious business
>Ubuntu remains as the only decent desktop linux
>Only reason it exists is because some millionaire has been burning his money for years
>He finally loses his patience an axes the desktop division to focus on things that actually make money

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i hope corporate linux fails

it has brought literally nothing to the community.

Posting the last video of Unity 8 we will ever see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnyOUk0pvVo

I rather use this pre-alpha software than that pile of dogshit that is Gnome

>>59778698
are you serious friend?
corporate has helped with that kernel of ours, not one to enjoy praising corporations for a damn thing, but i'm not a liar either.
we'd be in hurd stages if it weren't for those.

>>59778498
We should finally start shilling Fedora because it's the only usable normie distro left.

>inb4 systemd haters

>>59778059
Linux is easier to use than W10. Windows is such a timesink these days that it makes arch based distros look good.

>>59778618
>I hope the GNU zealots are happy, their hate for Ubuntu was one of reasons for this.

Source on this? It would be nice if GNU zealots actually accomplished something for once. Packing Amazon botnet with a Linux distro is some unforgivable shit.

>>59778059
Freetards calmed their autism and developers were able to make nonfree Linux compatible software

What do you mean good?

I see no progress at all in the last decade.
It was shit back then and now it is the same shit with different wallpaper. (Ubuntu)

>>59778887
There never was no Amazon spyware, that was simply slander invented by Stallman to prevent Canonical creating earnings from the desktop. Anonymizing search requests was more safe than Duck Duck Go. Stallman is likely in cahoots with Google. Visit his site, he can think of nothing wrong with them even though they monitor us 24/7 and everywhere we go. No, that is no infringement on our freedom. And Gnome helps share your documents with Google Drive without any support for encryption, because we want Google to read everything, do we not? The Linux community is being duped. If these people use sleazy means like slandering, that is simply because they are not to be trusted and have a very different agenda than they pretend to have. Lets not forget the communist system was also sponsored by big money. Nothing new. Free Software is a scam and it hates Open Source.

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>>59778114
The DE isn't holding Linux back, I think the three things holding Linux back are:

1. MS licensing agreements with OEM. When you go to Walmart or Best Buy the PC's are sold with Windows included. That is what most people walk away with. They do not know what an operating system is and they don't care (nor should they have to.)
2. DirectX / gaming. The fact is a significant amount of people are running Windows right now specifically for native, automated, easy DirectX support.
3. Office. No one wants to fucking virtualize the standard office platform.

I am a believer, I think it will take a few more years but the growth will basically be exponential in nature.

Once the licensing agreements go (contingent on #2 and #3) there will be an avalanche.

>>59778980
>Anonymizing search requests was more safe than Duck Duck Go.
So not safe at all.
>but gnome is botnet too
Okay never used it long enough to find it but I'll take your word on it. Anything that resource intensive must have a few layers of botnet in it. Also not an argument.

So back to the original question. Do you have a source on Canonical saying fuck devloping Unity because of anything GNU zealots did? I really want undeniable proof GNU zealots actually accomplished something. That seems so unlike them.

>So back to the original question. Do you have a source on Canonical saying fuck devloping Unity because of anything GNU zealots did? I really want undeniable proof GNU zealots actually accomplished something. That seems so unlike them.

Sorry but if you are a retard who can't read between lines, that's not my problem.

>>59778820
This. I had a normie friend install Fedora 25 recently after seeing a few articles about how easy to install and use it is.

>>59779119
>>59778820
Fedora is garbage for the desktop, nowhere new the level of usability of Ubuntu.

>>59779180
It's much better on desktop than Ubuntu, stop memeing.

>>59779105
Sorry but the message in the lines seems to be that Linux for the desktop is unprofitable. The message in between the lines is desktop OSs are not profitable but selling user information is. See MS' offering an "upgrade" to Windows 10 for free so they get the upgraded telemetry as well as turning Windows 10 in to a rolling release so that once you switch you get forced upgrades in order to reduce their need to support legacy systems. Linux users, not just the GNU zealots, seem to be slightly less okay with the harvesting of their information thus making releasing a desktop distro even less profitable than the desktop market in general. However the article mentions them adding more focus on the internet of thangs where collecting user information is what you do.

Clearly the message all over is the only reason this lasted so long is a millionaire kept pouring money in to it without any tangible reason to think it would turn a profit.

>>59779195
You are not fooling anyone GNOME shill. Fedora has never been a popular desktop distro, it has always been a minimal Gnome enterprise desktop. You even need to add a fucking repository to use the proprietary stuff that the average joe computer needs.

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>>59778097

why do people hate gnome? i don't get it. i think it's great.

>it's simple
>it's clean
>it looks nice

The alternative desktop environments are trash

>>59779304

the other desktop environments*

>>59779304
I prefer muh tiling wm, but gnome is an okay standby with a few extensions. (e.g. maximus)

>>59779265
All I know is it supports my monitor+GPU resolution, whereas anything Ubuntu or Arch based I've tried doesn't and adding a startup script to add and apply the resolution gives me an error message on startup.

>>59779265
>>59779304
Gnome is shit. It takes about 4 clicks to get to the terminal emulator. If you're going to run Fedora install one of the other DEs/WMs. Gnome is so shit there's half a dozen other spins so you don't even have to run it long enough to install something else.

t. Fedora user

>>59779304
Why are you using Google Chrome?

>>59779419

because i can't flash to install with chromium. some youtube videos won't play.

>>59779431

can't get*

>>59779397
It takes one click to get to the Terminal,what are you talking about ? Dont you have the ability to right click and add to favourites ?

>>59779431
html5?

>>59779463
I figured it would just be better to install something written by people who didn't think the terminal was some backwards compatibility meme to be hidden under four layers of GUI. Also touch screen is for devices without a better pointing device. Seriously who came up with that shit?

>>59779065
>office
I work for a 30k person company, we use google apps, we don't need any MS Office apps. we also have a sizable number of Ubuntu desktops deployed.

>>59779510
activities - > Terminal what are you talking about, dont you have a keyboard?

>>59779524
Pretty easy to install all ms fonts in libreoffice.

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>>59779397
>>59779463
>clicking
>not having keyboard shortcut in muscle memory
>not having a terminal open at all times and starting programs from it instead of navigating bloated gui menu
Defaults to

ctrl + alt + T

in most DEs, you fucking pleb shitters. "Clicking", hahaha!

>>59778059
>Shuttleworth "We are killing touch to focus on the desktop"
>/g/ "He said desktop is dead!"

Why I never believe any of you /g/tards

>>59779065
>1. MS licensing agreements with OEM. When you go to Walmart or Best Buy the PC's are sold with Windows included. That is what most people walk away with. They do not know what an operating system is and they don't care (nor should they have to.)
This crap again.
Nigga, i think in my country half the laptops i've seen in stores run linux(usually ubuntu or mint, sometimes lxde), but people just flash windows on them, and linux fags are still an insignificant minority.

>>59778059
>and even steam games
How is DRMed, anti-user botnet a merit?

>>59779605
Because they are the only faggots that want to deal with you crybabbies regarding games.
Which i'm increasing being led to believe is a mistake, and they should have let you rot in your autism.

>>59779524
>we use google aps
>we dont need any MS Office apps

your paperwork is probably fucking shit then since the google aps lack tons of functionality which you would know if you've ever written a proper document.

>>59779629
>criticizes crybabies
>by being an even bigger crybaby

You stupid fucking mongoloid. Mommy is calling. She said to tell you dinner is ready and no more computer till you finish your homework.

>>59779638
We're a huge saas company, most things are done dog fooding our own platform.

>>59779605
At the very least, you can use this DRMed anti-user botnet on a libre platform, instead of stacking one DRMed anti-user botnet ontop another DRMed anti-user botnet platform.

>>59779600
Learn to read, you imbecile.

>>59778059
>Ubuntu is as easy to use as Winblows now. This makes me happy in my prostate.

Yes, the fire rises!

>>59778498
Ubuntu =/= Unity.

Get a grip, Pajeet!

won't some new ubuntu distribution emerge for the purpose of supporting unity ?

>>59779707
Unlike you, I actually *did* read it, you illiterate pajeet shitposting meming leddit nigger

>>59779768
You probably won't find 3 maintainers who actually like unity enough to do a distribution for it

>>59778059
>in my prostate.
that's cause you're a faggot that enjoys taking it up the ass

>>59779771
Then you have Brain damage because Mark is pulling out of further desktop development entirely by firing 500 people working on the Ubuntu desktop.

Maybe you are too stupid to read between lines and don't understand that going back to have just 1 employee maintaining Unity 7 is the same as killing the desktop division.

Anyway kill yourself, faggot.

>>59778093

I hope Unity 8 will be worked on the Community

>>59778059
Yeah, 10 years ago I didn't even try to check if a new game would work, but these days there's actually a pretty good chance. Also WINE is actually good now at least for games that use dx9 or opengl/vulkan.

>>59779787
Even straight people can derive pleasure from anal stimulation. I highly recommend you try it before you die.

>>59779822
It's still a bit glitchy I noticed, or is it just my shit PC?

>>59778775
so this is what youve all been raving about?

and you complain that it takes a few extra clicks to do things on a mac?

>>59780243
It's pre-alpha software

>>59779304
>grouping applications together
Just make a search menu like everyone else. I already know the name of the fucking application I want to use. I'm not perusing my computer for an application that sounds like it will fit my needs.

Ugly and outdated. Put it in the bin. Long live Unity 7.

>>59778059
Mostly because Microsoft and Apple retardation.

>>59778498
>unity division gets budget cuts
>UBUNTU IS DEAD
nice try shill

>>59778860
False. I never had an issue with Windows, but on Linux I can't even count.

>>59782031
>I can't count
Typical winfag

>>59782131
You obviously know what I mean.

>>59779251

So are we now past peak Linux?

>>59778459
>>TFW lives in 3rd world shithole
>>heard about Linux 15 years ago
Theres nothing surprising about being in a shithole and using linux. In fact most people who use it literally sit in their own shit.

>>59779822
Magic 8 Ball says: don't count on it

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>>59783977
>sit in their own shit

fucking delet this

>>59779822

fork is already confirmed

>>59779663
BI software?

>>59778097
Assuming your post was true, we wouldn't know until April 2018.

If you're a time traveler at least share stock standings so we can all get rich you faggot.

>>59779180
12.04 was ubuntu's peak. Then they had the whole scopes search bar disaster. Tried to make a phone when all they had to do was sell a desktop in your pocket with a dialers and texter and power users would have gone nuts. The community would have skinned it all out. Instead they hypted garbage for years with no real progress. The developers we're way to defensive in online forums. And all that was obvious for years. That's why I switch to fedora 19 and never looked back. 6 month release cycle that lets you fall behind if you don't feel like upgrading. SE linux enabled by default. "Spins" if you want a different default desktop. Wayland seems to be working for everyday use.

>>59779265
Best of both worlds. The freetards are almost fully satisfied by the default repository. Everyone else can easily add the non-free repository. If someone is to lazy to learn the basics of how a package manager works they shouldn't bother with linux.

>>59778860
This is so fucking true it hurts.
W10 is a fucking disaster in UI.

My retarded mother is now using Ubuntu because W10 fucked over her shit laptop.
I was done having to fix it for her every time I was down.

Win ME is more usable. That's fucking sad.

>>59784820
>My retarded mother is now using Ubuntu
wow did she install it without interference by other family members thats impressive

>>59778498
>The most popular desktop distribution was unprofitable
sauce?

>>59785644
I'm more inclined to believe that canonical are just pulling some corporate bullshit and maximizing profits because they know the community will pick up their slack or something.

>>59778074
>>59778070
SUKA BLYAT PUTIN'S SLAVES

>>59778980
>Stallman is likely in cahoots with Google. Visit his site, he can think of nothing wrong with them even though they monitor us 24/7 and everywhere we go.

https://stallman.org/google.html

Im not stallman's psychofan but calling him layer is probably wrong FOSS is his life.

>>59785683
>implying I didn't just read Russian For Dummies

>>59785715
>implying i give a shit

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>>59779304

macOS is the best Linux distribution we have and it still sucks for gaming. The year of the Linux desktop is still many years off.

>>59785725
>implying you aren't mad jelly of my totally neat pyccкий skills

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>>59785744
434

>>59785749
pizdiet naruj, you got me there vodka blyat

>>59785744
I must admit, OSX is very good.

But don't be thinking I don't know you're b8ing; I'm onto you bitch.

>>59779065
>3. Office. No one wants to fucking virtualize the standard office platform.
Or any industry standard high quality application for that matter.

Only select industries have good cross platform or alternative products and even then it's mostly IT / pure software that could still be virtualized if needed. Bring in anything hardware and there is even less software and no virtualization possible.

I don't care what i use to browse my files or connect devices as long as it's fast and doesn't get into my way with too much "the somethingsomething experience". But i need some software to make the files.

>>59781109
>I already know the name of the fucking application
Not after the new release ships intercourse widget instead.

Desktop needs to support both - self explanatory style for new users, learning their way and fast, direct access for seasoned power users.

>>59779397
Super key + T + enter
or
F12 if you're using Guake.

>>59785994
>self explanatory style for new users
this. as far as i know ubu is popular choose 4 prev win**ws users. lack of minimize button in g3 may be confusing.

>>59778059
GNU/Linux has been better than windows for like 15 years now.

>>59778059
it's comfy for developers and because of that those developers make more software

>>59786077
0/10

>>59786077
But it's not the Linux that's getting better.
It's the Windows that get's worse.

>>59786115
It has noticeably improved though in terms of ease of use for the layman.

>>59786077
technically probably yes but 4 normies soft availability is more important

>>59785671
ubuntu couldve been profitable but canonical wasnt, for sure.

there'll be a point where sugardaddy shuttleworths money runs out

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what happened to all the Mint talk?

did that one security problem on their site really kill the whole popularity of it?

>>59778059
>t actually has useful programs now
after what? 26 years?

>>59778059
>How did linux become so good all of a sudden?
In what way? I installed BunsenLabs a week ago and it can't even play video files without crashing whenever I click on the GUI in baka-mplayer, lmfao

>>59787553
Nah. It's still a popular entry-level distro.

In sites like this it died because:
>they had to stop bundling all the codecs by default, so there's not much time saved vs installing Ubuntu
>Cinnamon is not that good
>they purposedly delay security patches by default because they're too incompetent and underfunded to test Cinammon properly

>>59787553
Mint was a false flag created by Microsoft.

They paid shills to post pro-Mint posts on tech forums. The goal was to steal a bunch of Ubuntu users, then introduce a bunch of serious bugs and vulnerabilities over time to hurt Linuxs image amongst FOSS advocates.

They failed though, because astoturfing doesn't work unless the product you're shilling for is actually better than the one it's trying to replace.

The age of the 2.6 kernel was a great time for Linux.

>>59785744

I am inclined to believe linux might actually be better for gaming. Apple has held back opengl to version 3 right? And nvidia/intel drivers are very good for linux.

>>59787923
realistically the one thats "better for gaming" is the one that supports more games.

10% difference in performance only interests a small number of users.

>>59787847
>>/pol/

>>59778081
>unity
kekekekeke

>>59787528
I'm glad I ordered all those free CDs from them years ago.

>>59779802
>Maybe you are too stupid to read between lines and don't understand that going back to have just 1 employee maintaining Unity 7 is the same as killing the desktop division.
Abandoning Unity is a much needed development for the desktop.

>>59778059
>How did linux become so good all of a sudden?
Google with Android happened on mobile
Windows 8 happened on the desktop, and it keeps happening with Windows 10
2013 Snowden leaks also happened

>>59778498
Mint is the new hotness.

>>59788804
Maybe for faggots like you whose time is so worthless that they can afford wasting hours configuring their shitty DE's (GNOME 3) to make it usable. BUT to normal people now that the only DE that offered you sane defaults and didin't require mindless tweaking is dead, there is even less reasons to use linux on the desktop.

Hope you enjoy your GNOME cancer.

>>59789833
I'd like to see a release that you pay money for. As long as they don't fuck with it too much.

Who the fuck uses GNOME anyway? Just go for Kubuntu / Xubuntu / Lubuntu versions if you like Ubuntu that much.

>>59778498
>Desktop Linux is dead. Canonical is going to abandon all efforts for it and focus on their profitable projects.

Which are what?

>>59778498
What happened? I thought Ubuntu was being paired with new laptops a while ago and they were going to monetize the software center.

>>59790297
Ubuntu convergence is a pipe dream in this decade, Cloud and SaaS memes are actually turning profit and in hueg demand
They been selling Ubuntu with laptops since 2009 iirc, Dell shipped Ubuntu laptops for quite some years, it never catched on

>>59778301
It's funny because that's longer than Windows 7, the last semi-decent OS that Micropenis ever made.

>>59790297
>Ubuntu was being paired with new laptops

Sadly that is not nearly enough money.

Ubuntu desktop never had anything like other OSs have to make profit.Like apple have itunes ibooks imovie etc microsoft windows having ms office and mining your data to sell ads, some games and some antivirus companies.

Everytime you installed Ubuntu they asked for donation (of course no one of the entitled faggots donated) and when they tried to make money with Amazon suggestion that faggot communist Stallman called Ubuntu Spyware.

I hope that the GNOME shills and GNU faggots are happy now that Canonical is killing the most popular linux desktop.

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>>59790297
Canonical tried the sell-a-service model with Ubuntu One filesharing. They've had an app store for years. They even tried a fairly minimal form of advertising by providing Amazon search results with a referral code.

>>59791308
They can install whatever "spyware" they like if it means a better OS imo. I mean, how hard is it really to just remove the "spyware" if it bothers you that much?

>>59779304
>why do people hate gnome? i don't get it. i think it's great.
>The alternative desktop environments are trash
Where's a proper file picker then?

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>>59778059
>Ubuntu is as easy to use as Winblows now
Haha. Good thing Shuttlecuck just killed Unity.

Say goodbye to that easy use.

>>59778301
But anything from 18.04 will use Gnome.
People cannot just use 16.04 forever.

>>59778059
Valve

>>59778598
>Normal people didn't use Ubunty just because they liked Unity.
Normies used Ubuntu only because it had Unity.
Unity was so simple to use and learn no one had trouble with it.

>>59778081
>>59778093
>>59778498
>>59778592
>>59778598
>>59778618
>>59778641

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>>59793200

>>59793177
Nothing stopping canonical from dressing up gnome like unity. That's basically what it is in the first place.

>>59786215
I know. I'm just being sarcastic... a bit.

In reality there has been heaps of improvement in Linux. But windows has got worse as well. 5 years ago, i'd use it if Linux died. Now I'd either look at Hackintosh or turn to masochism with some less friendly, but maintained Linux.

How many times I've had to print a document (e.g. a boarding pass) ASAP before leaving. With forced updates I cant trust windows with that anymore. And many other things..

To me the computer must be the way i left it last time i turned it off. Any changes happen only after my approval only on fully booted and operational system.

On the other hand Ubuntu dieing isn't necessarily bad. IMHO they pushed too much of custom things that undermined efforts of anything that creates more global project which benefit every distro and promote some standartization. E.g. why does every distro feel like they should ship their shitty, dumbed down version of torrent client or CD burning app.

>>59793177
Nah. I started exploring various flavors as soon as Ubuntu went unity. And with the shitty power management, sleep mode glitches and AMD anything that forces you to use accelerated graphics is a NO on laptop.

>>59778059
>No Visual Studio
>No Xamarin
>No Adobe Suite

Into the trash it goes.

>>59779431
I don't have flash and use youtube without any problems. Make sure you're using the html5 player

>>59793224
Who told you there will be team working on the desktop? Where did you see Mark announce that? That would only create more backlash from the Gnome devs who dislikes others building on their work and try to undermine them any way they can, whether they are extension, theme or DE builders.

And why should they? This project is over. Like Mark says, it never gained enough support in the Linux community. We had our chance and we blew it because too many let themselves by led by the populists of the Free Software Foundations.

And we blew it because to few ever felt the necessity to pay Canonical for her efforts. Ubuntu runs on nearly a billion computers, but donations are something like $50.000. People build profitable businesses on it but see no reason to support the project. Sure for the next indy-retro-game people are willing to amass a million.

>>59793207
That looks like garbage and lack completely the functionally and ease of use that Unity has.

Really bad try, GNOME shill.

>>59794418
>Who told you there will be team working on the desktop? Where did you see Mark announce that?
Who told you they were going to ship it vanilla? Nobody. You're dumb if you think that.

>blah blah blah
>We had our chance and we blew it because too many let themselves by led by the populists of the Free Software Foundations
cuck

>>59794530
Oh look, another delusional retard who can't read between lines

Faggots like you seem to have this illusionary idea that Canonical is now going to co-develop the Gnome desktop. Canonicals graphical desktop adventure is over, finito, kaput. The GNU/Gnome guys did everything they could to destroy it with their slander campaigns and boycotting all Canonical's projects. There will be increased Gnome extension development as Unity is now left to die. But I really hope more developers rather turn to KDE and do not reward these lowlifes for their evil actions. But then again most devs are pretty dim when it comes to politics and easily let themselves be fooled again.

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>>59794589
>co-develop
Shipping with a few extensions isn't co developing. Several distros already do it. You're the delusional fuck who struggles with reading comprehension.

>not reward these lowlifes for their evil actions
Wow you are a fanatic huh?

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>>59794589
>Canonicals graphical desktop adventure is over
Awesome. Unity was a cancer for the whole of the rest of the community.

>ubuntu is dead
this fucking sucks, it's easier to install than windows.

>>59794615
>Shipping with a few extensions isn't co developing.

Because shipping your distro with extensions added to the most unreliable DE that is well known for breaking extensions and has fucked up with people who has build around their technologies in the past is a good idea.

Thank god you are not in charge of any OS. I am literally discussing with a retard.

Also good job ignoring the fact that Mark fired 500 employees working on the Ubuntu desktop and left literally only 1 pal to maintain Unity.

I am sure that guy will enjoy when the GNOME devs decide to break their extensions and tweaks.

>>59792505
sudo dnf install dolphin
There you go!

>>59794476
What? It looks the same as Unity kek

>>59793166
16.04 ... 17.04 ... 18.04

>>59793349
>No Xamarin
>No Adobe Suite
Seems good

>>59779397
you wot mate?
>>59786018
>>59779463
>>59779594
these.
Or if you are litteraly retarded: tap super, type term, press enter.

obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. I doubt you even know what to do in a terminal.

t. someone who has actually used gnome

>>59779629
GOG and HumbleBundle has linux games too. Both are DRM-free.

>>59779397
sudo dnf install nautilus-open-terminal

Right click > Open Terminal Here

>>59787615
Have you tried Cinnamon recently. It's the only thing I can stand using.

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>>59794746
>distro with extensions added to the most unreliable DE that is well known for breaking extensions
>I am sure that guy will enjoy when the GNOME devs decide to break their extensions and tweaks.
Are you retarded? They already keep extensions in the repos.

You obviously don't know what the fuck is even going on.

>I am literally discussing with a retard.
See above

>I am sure that guy will enjoy when the GNOME devs decide to break their extensions and tweaks.
see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome+extension&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all

They are already implementing a solution to the nonsense you think you know so much about.

>>59794746
>I am sure that guy will enjoy when the GNOME devs decide to break their extensions and tweaks.
It's like you think that Ubuntu is like Arch or something.

>>59778617
They've also been forcing large costs on other distros because they've been force feeding us their shit.
> Ubuntu tries to make their own stuff
> People whine because it isn't trivial for them to use it, even though they all yell that they hate it.

> RedHat makes SystemD
> Everyone praises them for releasing a software stack that allows them to run Gnome.

It reads like pure fucking Poettering.

>>59794631
>Unity was a cancer for the whole of the rest of the community.
Citation required

>>59794956
Systemd is a huge improvement

example: in a traditional Linux setup, sysvinit, start-stop-daemon, inetd, cron, dbus, all implemented its own scheme to execute processes with various configuration options in a certain, hopefully clean environment. On systemd the code paths for all of this, for the configuration parsing, as well as the actual execution is shared. This means less code, less place for mistakes, less memory and cache pressure.

>They already keep extensions in the repos.

How does that change the history of GNOME developers being assholes and turning down patches just for not being made in house?

Did they fixed the file picker in GTK2 to show thumbnails? What did you say? No? well fuck you then.

>They are already implementing a solution

And it is called Vanilla GNOME, not the super customized Ubuntu flavored DE that you and a few other retards think there will be.

Your pics shows the standard extensions that don't change any significant behavior of the GNOME desktop, things that people hate like the XBOX huge title bars and tablet like buttons are going to stay.

>>59795002
>Citation required
It was extremely divisive wasn't it?

>>59795090
Meant to quote
>>59794876

>>59778059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

>>59795090
>>How does that change the history of GNOME developers being assholes and turning down patches just for not being made in house?
This is not relevant to Ubuntu's release model

>And it is called Vanilla GNOME, not the super customized Ubuntu flavored DE that you and a few other retards think there will be.
Again. Several distributions already ship with many extensions, hell some ship with dash to dock set up to fill the left side, though I have only seen it with autohide, but that's irrelevant. It's quite common and Canonical will definitely do the same.

You honestly think that Canonical will ship GNOME with zero extensions? You're delusional.

>Your pics shows the standard extensions that don't change any significant behavior of the GNOME desktop, things that people hate like the XBOX huge title bars and tablet like buttons are going to stay.
>moving the goalpost
You sure showed me. Why does the specific extensions matter? Again, not relevant to Ubuntu's release model. Concerning things they want to be stable they will keep in the repos. And since GNOME will be their default DE now you can bet they will be adding more.

We aren't talking about something like Arch here. A GNOME update is not going to come out of the blue and break anything. Everything is held back a lot and they already heavily patch a lot of stuff in the first place.

>>59795223
>You honestly think that Canonical will ship GNOME with zero extensions? You're delusional.

I never said that, my whole point has been that they are going to ship with GNOME and not going to make GNOME look and behave like Unity did, this is why the extensions to showed are irrelevant but you seem to be to retarded to understand that.

In other words this is about the default cancerous GNOME experience that is going to stay.

>Why does the specific extensions matter?

Because those are the ones that change the behavior of the DE which is what retards like you imply when they say that Canonical is going to do some special magic to GNOME to make it look different.

If by different you understand that they are going to change the Wallpaper then we are on the same page, if not you are just an idiot who is spreading FUD, hope you enjoy you cancerous DE.

>>59778628
https://www.linuxmint.com/store_mintbox.php

>>59795223
>A GNOME update is not going to come out of the blue and break anything.

Also I love how so far in all your posts you are totally ignorant of history.

>And the extensions seem to randomly break when you update the system, so they don't work as well as they would if they just came with the base system.

Linus Torvalds about GNOME

>>59795367
Why are you so confident? You don't know what the fuck they're going to do.

>>59795424
>>A GNOME update is not going to come out of the blue and break anything.
>
>Also I love how so far in all your posts you are totally ignorant of history.
This doesn't happen with extensions from the repos now does it? Stop misrepresenting my posts you fallacious fuck.

>>59795500
>Why are you so confident?

Because, like I said in earlier posts, I can read between the lines.

If Mark had any aspiration in that direction (continuing the Ubuntu desktop experience) he would have continued Unity7 which is not at all outdated. It is younger and better than Gnome. It is not that difficult to improve on it if he were still interested in the desktop. But he wants out of that. Sure they will maintain the base that is needed for Ubuntu server and on which others maintain their desktops and they will continue to improve on that, but do not expect anything visible. This adventure is over.

He literally fired 500 people working on Unity 8 and said they are going to focus on IoT and the cloud where the money is.

But anyway lets wait and see what happens.

>>59795500
>This doesn't happen [...] now does it?

Then I will ask you again, have those asshole developers accepted the community patch to fix the file-picker in GTK 2 to show thumbnails?

No?

Then, fuck you.

>>59795649
Meant to, btw
>>59795520

>>59778498
Moron spotted

Some things became good, some bad. For a desktop user coming from somewhere else, they definitely got better, but at the same time you have desktop environments that don't run well on a fucking beefy desktop, all because of certain hardware support. 10 years ago I didn't a modern computer would have trouble with animations nowadays with fucking gnome, that's for sure.

Another thing is, things got real good if we compare it with a decade ago, but they have been slowing down for a few years now. For Linux to become a really popular system on desktops, one that would actually make a substantial amount of people forget about the existence or purpose of Windows/macOS, it would have to take steps proportional to those it took since roughly a decade ago as well. And that is no easy task. Linux was like a fat fucker that has now lost quite a bit of weight, but ain't fit.

>>59778301
Next LTS is going to be gnome by default, thankfully.

Unity had always been a mess with maybe one or two good ideas hidden in it. I hope they ditch Mir too, another fucking pointless alternative that makes Ububtu unecessarily unorthodox.

The more "standard" Ubuntu becomes the better, that's going to be the key to the success of the Linux desktop.

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>>59796416
Mir is dead too or dead for sure as if someone will fork the Unity i doubt have the mental power to maintain that too.

They got great ideas, but the NIH syndrome didn't come with patience and the butthurt autismos like rms and other idiots ranting about the amazon "botnet" (aka let's make some money with our software) didn't worked well. The 16.04 already showed the intention of Canonical so not much it's not surprise for me.
Red Hat wins because Canonical retreat as usual.