>GNOME is now the standard linux desktop >Wayland is now

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>>59770815
>still using xfce

>>59770815
>GTK is now the standard linux UI tool kit
Well, disgusting.

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>>59770815
Install Gentoo!

>>59770815
>>GNOME is now the standard linux desktop
>ASSIMILATE

Well, we are fucked.

Fuck off with your Fisher Price UI.

>GNOME
>GTK
No thanks, I don't eat shit.

>>59770815
RIP GANOO/LOONIX

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Kind of looks like a Windows ripoff lol

>>59770815
Will Gnome ever make their top bar useful for anything other than viewing the calendar and leaving gnome.

I'm so happy.

Now Canonical can ficus on improving performance and resource usage and even if they only contribute to GNOME a little bit we will likely see some cool new features.

>>59770953
Windows looks like it was designed by fisher price.

Look at those buttons in the corner. That gradient is disgusting.

>>59770971
https://github.com/p-e-w/argos

Nope.

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>>59770995
That's not windows, it's some Alienware software. It's supposed to be ugly haha

I guess you'd understand if you were part of the Alien Nation

>>59771029
Using it seemed to make people mad and I don't like making people mad unless it's on purpose.

>>59771030
>Glossy black buttons
I could have sworn my calendar said we were in 2017, not 2006.

>>59770815
hey you stole my nickname

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>>59770971
>Top bar workspace scroll
>Weather
>Application category menu

And if you're really assblasted, just enable the bottom bar and you basically back to W A N G B L O W S

>standard

Says who?

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>>59770815
>i heared he liked GNOME
Install TAILS

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>>59770815
>GNOME

>>59770815
>he doesn't know

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Wonder if linux users are even away file pickers with thumbnails are a thing in 2017.

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>>59770815
>he should know

>>59770815
>Gnome depends on systemd
A S S I M I L A T E

>GNOME is now the standard linux desktop
No

>Wayland is now the standard linux display protocol
No

>GTK is now the standard linux UI tool kit
Yes

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>>59770815
Somebody shoot me. Desktop linux is dead.

>>59770971
Use "Dash to Panel".

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>>59770815
>hyped on the assimilation gimmick
That lasts about half a week before you grow weary.

Install Kali Linux.

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>>59770815
Install Windows!

>>59771075
> extensions
> if you use fluxbox rox-filer and bunch of random projects from github you can make your own desktop

No thanks desktops should be useable without extensions.

>>59770815
THANKS HN!

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>>59770815
Fine. Miss out on the best a technological advanced operating system has yett offer.

Here. Take this ...


*Eliminates with catheter*

>>59771236
>being so autistic

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>>59770815
It's like your inspired by Obontus decisions when you really should be talking about the label on the disk in hand.

Here. Take this ASAp.

>>59770862
THIS
H
I
S

You can take XFCE from my cold dead hans

>ASSIMILATE

You mean install something else

>>59770815
>Wayland is now the standard linux display protocol

Still using X11 for my nvidia optimus

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>>59770815
>he thinks GNOME is worthy of ecclesiastics
I suggest you take this and fail to install it. Then come by the forums and let us rape your frazzled mind.

>>59771313
> purposely gimping your computing power by not updating to a modern cutting edge desktop

Linux is for power users not casual shits like you, you're like those old fucks who are still on windows XP because they are scared to change. Power users will want new and improved desktops with high quality effects and innovative ideas, not some windows 95 clone. It's almost impossible to get any real work done on xfce because I have to spend five to six hours setting up compositors and compiz fusions to have anything even remotely similar to advanced desktops like kde and gnome. If I have to spend hours making a desktop work correctly then I am not getting any actuall work done myself. So xfce is nothing but a broken toy for the unemployed who have time to rice thier desktops all day. I don't. I have work to do. I am a power user so I expect a desktop to come with effects and usability built in. There is no reason I should have to messs with config files or terminals or anything like I have to do on xfce because xfce is not a full desktop. I suggest you get with the times champ. If you want to be a productive member of the linux community you better use a real desktop. Fuck ass.

>>59770815
Slackware will save us from this doom.

>>59770815
how dos you get that visualizer with cmus? is it a part of it normally or some plugin?

>>59771393
I like GNU+Linux alot for my server, but I prefer a real OS for desktop use like Windows 10

>>59771421
cava

https://github.com/karlstav/cava

> nooo i dont want no standards i want to be a special unique snowflake
This is why Linux is a failure on the desktop market

>>59771450
cuck

>>59771465
the only people saying that are shills

>>59771450
See this makes sense. WIndows is something you start up and start working. There's no bullshit in windows like there is in linux. No config files, no console outputs. All the shit is hidden from the users because the users job is to use the god damn software and no fuck with it. The user should be able to load up the computer and get to work, not fuck with a huindred million config files before they can even write "hello world", apple knew that, windows knows that, and linux is just getting there. But it's still not great for desktop work.

>>59771481
what does that word even mean

>>59771518
What are you? stupid?

>>59771518
it means you use windows

>>59771543
so Windows users use Windows

>>59771537
calling others stupid doesn't make you sound smart

>>59771567
Ok stupid

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>>59771510
Windows apps look like giant ads. Windows apps are filled with real ads. Windows is adware.

Windows is spyware. They participated in the NSA PRISM program.

You're a cuck for using windows.

It has horrible font rendering too. Windows really does get in your way and Linux stays out of your way. Windows is for cucks and Linux is for power users.

Sorry, but it's the truth.

>pic related, ads in file explorer

Wincucks will literally defend this, especially >>59771510


Go find out what a real vagina feels like you virgin wincucks. Stop jerking off to cartoons.

>>59771573
yes, you do sound stupid

>>59771510
So basically, Windows and Mac is for simple-minded people, who just need their gaming&facebook work done? For niggers who can't even edit config text file?

>>59770815
>Wayland

Does this means current nvidia video cards will work out of the box or will the nouveu or whatever open source drivers stick it in my ass still?

Also which distros have wayland right now? Ubuntu or just Fedora?

>>59771518
It's the new emasculating insult.

See, faggot, sissy, Lady, etc. lost their charm after being used for so long, so now idiots use the word cuck.

>>59770815
Except no one uses Wayland and it's really buggy right now.
Other than that, I really like GNOME3 and GTK.

>>59771574
There are nothing wrong with ads. That's how things work nowdays. Websites, youtube channels, podcasts, radio, television, all work based of ads, why shouldn't operating systems. Being against ads is stupid. These aren't just random ads, but they are targeted ads, so they are meant to show you things you will be interested in. Are you against seeing new things you're interested in? That's why you're on this forum isn't it? To see news and talk about things you are interested in? Ads are the same thing. And if you can see things that interest you and support software developers, then more power to them. I see as a smart move on the minds of these developers. If ads means better quality and free products, then ads should be welcomed because they are effectively support the software ecosystem. Do you remember the days when a copy of Windows would cost almost 200$? That's ridiculous. Now windows is free. Ads have liberated windows and they could do it to apple and even linux if people like you didn't bitch all the time. Linux would be smart to start including adds in their software, then free software could finally be have a realistic financial future lol instead of begging for people to donate. There are nothing wrong with ads.

>>59771640
>he defended it

cuck

>>59771630
Wayland is the default desktop on Fedora and it works fine. >>59771610

The ugliest DE available is now standard.

Nice way to indefinetelly postpone the year of Linux Desktop, Canonical.

>>59771667
Ok then, explain to me. What's wrong with ads?

>>59771640
Hello, Satya!

>>59771689
The same thing that's wrong with letting another man drive your wife to orgasm.

>>59770815
Gnome and systemd can suck my dick, XFCE and openrc mustard race.

>>59771719
Women are free to have sex with who they want, Men do not own them. I am not here to argue that. I want to know what specific objections do you have to ads in software.

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>>59770815
>>GNOME is now the standard linux desktop
>>Wayland is now the standard linux display protocol
>>GTK is now the standard linux UI tool kit
NSA approved

>>59771010
>https://github.com/p-e-w/argos
WTF, I fucking love Gnome now!

>>59771746
I don't need any stupid distraction while working, I need focus to work, not to ads. That is why i dumped Windows and installed Ubuntu.

>>59771382
I am using arch,this is not a thing.

>>59771116
That is something that annoys me a lot. Good to know that I'm not alone.

>>59770815
>Gnome 3 sucks in so many ways
>Wayland doesn't have proprietary drivers outisde intel
>GTK is butt ugly

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>>59771206
Fixed it for you.

>>59771889
I am using Arch as well. My graphic drivers will not work without X

There is literally nothing wrong with GNOME, GTK, systemd, Wayland, and LibreOffice. Stop crying, unix nerds.

>>59773721
Don't forget BTRFS, it's a great (and stable) file system.

>>59770815
So... Are there easily built, complete and stable drivers for common hardware in Wayland yet? Say what you want about X, but you can build it fairly easily, and it has drivers for everything.

>>59774295
Yes

>>59774295
hardware drivers written for X can be used under wayland.

>>59772964
>he's not crying while still holding a smile

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>>59771393
>muh sicrit club
Still can't set up the compositor backend within 10 minutes. How is that can be a power user? :^)

>>59771510
Don't forget to install updates before you start "working". Currently Windows is a steaming pile of shit, but old memes won't die.

>>59771518
Your PC fucked by an OS that isn't yours.

>>59771640

There is a bunch of dumb shit in this... but...
>Now windows is free

https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-10-Pro-Bit/dp/B00ZSHDJ4O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491518174&sr=8-1&keywords=window10

Windows 10 is not free,
you fucking idiot.

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>>59770815
I see you're running Guh-Nome

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>>59774488

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>>59770815
lol this the new gnome deknop thread??

>>59770815
Why would anyone use KDE over gnome?

>>59774537
Torvalds uses GNOME 3 now.

>>59774629
Honestly I think all the people bashing GNOME and pushing KDE are paid microsoft shills.

GNOME is more sleek than windows and is actually a better desktop metaphor for most consumers.

KDE is a hodge-podge of menus and buttons and ugly programs, very similar to Windows. KDE will guarantee a bad first time linux experience when coming from windows.

Because GNOME tries to think different it feels like something new, not like a copy of windows.

>>59771393
>Fuck ass.
Stopped reading there.

>>59774629
People prefer it for riding

"Linux enthusiasts" (read: autists)

>>59774853
This

>>59774872
makes sense. Personally, I'm a non compsci person who's using Linux for the first time and I think the gnome ux shits on KDE and Wangblows

>>59771386
Why that TUX is holding already outdated CD?

>>59771640
>There are nothing wrong with ads
>are
Remove the are and replace with is. I noticed you also did it again with your last sentence.
>There are nothing wrong with ads
>are
Again, replace with is. I hope this is informative for you so that you might improve your English.

>>59774853
>being touch screen ready
>next to nobody use it on touchscreen
At least MS admitted it as a bad idea.

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>>59774971
What makes GNOME touch-screen ready and not windows?

Windows has huge ugly buttons too. Pic related.

Don't forget the tiles they have.

The main difference is that GNOME is designed objectively better than this shit.

Look at the ribbon ffs, all that could be put into a hamburger menu.

I'm not even going to mention the giant ad (I am).

>>59770815
>GNOME is SJW garbage

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>>59774971
>>59775192
GNOME file manager for reference

>>59775197
(((citation needed)))

>>59775393
https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeWomen

>>59775465
I love when people post this sort of shit like it is evidence that certain projects are "sjw".

Check the mailing list.
That shit is deader than an American kindergartener.

Most projects have this kind of shit. It looks good and means nothing.
Purely tokenistic.

>>59775465
Do you hate women or something?

>>59775589
>They're just giving blacks a shot in the music industry, it means nothing
>They're just helping diversify television to appeal to different demographics, it means nothing
>They're just trying to help underprivileged people get jobs, it means nothing
>They're just putting homosexuals in media because they're good characters, it means nothing
>We're just regulating unreasonable hate speech against oppressed people's, it means nothing

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>>59775465
why do women ruin everything?

>>59770815
I used Gnome 3 on Arch for like three months before switching back to XFCE, it always felt just a bit off, nowhere near as consistent as Gnome 2 was (which isn't saying much, lets be honest).

The screen space issue really needs to be addressed before I'll use it over XFCE.

>>59775766
i'm sorry you're retarded buddy, i think you meant to click this >>>/pol/

>>59770953
Linux, ripping everyone else off since the 90's. Imitations are never as good as the original.

>>59775916
Brainlet, you have to go back now. >>>/a/

>>59770862
>X-ugubugu
>ugubugu
>Gtfo
Fun fact: installing ugubugu is as easy as pirating and installing windows 10

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>>59771393
>stop liking things I don't like
Some people enjoy different desktops and interfaces. By and large though, full GUIs with pretty graphics and effects are for normalfags. It makes it easier for people to get things done without knowledge of the inner workings of the operating system.
Real Linux power users make use of the CLI, where things work and normalfags can't enter muh sekrit klub.
You might as well go back to Windows 10, friend.

>>59771204
>Install
literally just have media with a live Kali system sitting around; there's no reason to run it full-time.

>>59776128
torvalds uses gnome 3

the terminal is (basically) the same in every distro/de.

>>59774437
>uding the smiley with a carat nose

>>59776272
>not using free open source emoji

>>59770815
>wayland is standard display protocol
citation needed

>>59776245
Torvalds just reads email all day, he's not a power user

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>>59770815
>>GNOME is now the standard linux desktop
I am not ok with this.
>>Wayland is now the standard linux display protocol
>>GTK is now the standard linux UI tool kit
I am ok with these.

Fuck GTK. KDE may be garbage, but Qt is still the best toolkit.

>>59771682
I installed fedora on my testing partition and on my notebook and played with it for a few weeks and I can guarantee you that the stability right now is far from acceptable.

>>59776478
What's wrong with Gnome besides being actually useful, common and not looking like shit?

>>59770889
People who designed GTK should all be rounded up and shot.

Execution should be broadcast on TV to serve as warning for all software developers.

>>59770815
So cool how you can't minimize that window or easily see what other windows are open.

>>59771287
>not Pepian

>>59776505
>doesn't even name one problem

yeah man I've sure you've been using it a bunch

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>>59776629
retard

>>59776709
Yeah, but the point is that you shouldn't have to do that. That's not user-friendly. Certainly not for newcomers or casual users, which is Ubuntu's audience.

>>59770953
>SA
KYS

>>59776729
>18.04 released
>Canonical simply ships it with Tweak tool and enables minimize buttons by default
>Ubuntu is saved!

>>59776629
>can't easily see what other windows are open

It's like you've never used GNOME.

Organizing windows by desktop and viewing them in the over view is superior to having an ever growing windows list.

>>59776729
>moving the goal posts

first you *can't* do it, now you've changed the argument to "I don't like the way it's done".

Just face the fact that you're a retard and apologize to your mom for not suffocating yourself with your own umbilical cord inside the womb.

>>59776754
Just adding minimize/maximize buttons wouldn't be enough. They'd have to add a window list as well.

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>>59770815
>not using i3

SAD!

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>>59776868
You're seriously a retard aren't you

it's one of the default extensions.

>>59776888
They'd have to enable it by default, I mean. And besides, that looks like shit.

>>59771640
hmmm fresh pasta

>>59770889
>ugubugu

laughingdog.jpg

>>59770815
why dont you get a trip?... make it easier to filter you

>>59777157
you're not very good at filtering then.

Create a custom script that removes threads that have the GNOME desktop in the ops pic.

I'll leave the implementation up to the reader. (it's pretty simple, but you probably couldn't figure it out).

Gtk is way better than the fucking garbage that is Qt.

>>59777209
>want to filter a specific poster
>write a script to remove threads with GNOME desktops
unfortunately your mother didn't drop from a greater height

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>>59770815
Install MATE

>>59777267
Use an AI

>>59770815
Did nobody else notice that the date is September 11th?

RIP twin towers and that part of the pentagon that got crushed, also the brave men and women of flight 93 who chose to crash their plane into a field instead of trying to land it on the field.

unity may be dead but gnome these days isn't much better
learn a proper tiling window manager and you'll never want to go back to the stacking trash typical plebeians get by with

>>59776690
Programs randomly crashing when their windows open.
Full screen programs have the same problem.
The desktop also hanged more than a few times.

waiting for my centos linux pepe

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>>59771640
I wish I had that bs essay writing skill.

>>59777576
I like using i3 when I'm using my notebook and I'm feeling too lazy to use my mouse.
I would never use it in my desktop or in any other circumstance, though.
Using a DE is simply better.

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>>59771749

>>59777576
scaling sucks on tiling WMs on a hidpi screen, atleast without a lot of configuring.

i3 on wayland (sway) sucks a lot of dick. firefox tooltips are completely broken and seizure inducing, goddamn mouse support sucks because wayland offloads ALL the fucking input devices to libinput, which needs hooks from the WM. Sooooo now the wm dev has to create stubs for every single input device people are going to use it with.

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>>59771393
>Taking the bait.
I find that xfce is best out-of-box and the most productive DE.
There is no need to tweak panels, launchers or even themes as Greybird looks pretty good overall. (Paper icons looks better tho')
As for composition i just disable it as i don't have any need for shadows and fancy animations, i just want to get stuff done.

If your screen is tearing, then in most cases it is just disabled in the X.org config files, since they need to make config files that is safe for a wide array of hardware.

Quick fix for Intel HD screen tearing:

sudo mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
Add the following and save the file

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "TearFree"    "true"
EndSection

>>59776754
any distro not shipping gnome metapackage with gnome tweak tool by default should be regarded as meme desu. They should just integrate it into the gnome control center

>>59771574
>pretends to be poweruser
>cant get his hands on windows 10 poweruser edition, aka enterprise
blame your own incompetence

>>59770862
I would use Xfce if it moved to Wayland, but development is so slow that it probably won't happen for another 10 years. The screen tearing is a faget and compton is a bad meme.

>>59780004
>The screen tearing is a faget and compton is a bad meme
and tearing can be fixed without compton

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>>59780004
>>59780023

>>59779648

>>59779758
All versions of Windows have ads, especially enterprise.

>>59771010
>>59771795
There is also a compatible extension with more features for plasma. https://store.kde.org/p/1173112

Is there a gnome equivalent for kwin rules yet?

literally stop this Fischer Price meme now!

>>59780829
>more features
>literally the same thing

kys.

KDE will never look as good (or perform as well) as GNOME.

>>59780954
Nah, it has implemented more features. Just check the github issues.

>>59780954
>or perform
Gnome eats like 200mb more RAM than KDE on a fresh install. Probably more CPU too.

>>59777614
Satania marry me pls.

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>>59775902
You know it's true, stop resisting.

>>59770815
i am still trying to swallow the systemd debacle

not even kidding: I abandoned Linux when the thing was in full swing and still have not come back. The Unity news gave me hope, but from what I have researched, my only decent candidate to comeback is still gentoo

>>59781266
>not wanting to become a true Gentooman

>>59781286
I was a gentooman.... for almost 6 years... just wanted to check other stuff

I still believe is the best distro out there: I installed it once, and never came back

The most beautiful DE is now the standard? Good good.

>>59780004
This. Also Compton fucks with Plank.

>>59781266
>leaving linux because of systemd
Imagine being this much of a tryhard. do you even have the slightest clue what systemd does? Are you aware that you don't have to use it?

>>59770815
this is all bullshit start to finish

>>59781331
gnome looks good but holy shit is the UX terrible.

KDE has it beat in every imaginable way.

>>59774629
Better non lagging animations.
Can be customized easily.
Dolphin file manager.
Easy to rice.
...

>>59776561
Well "acctually useful"
Imo it is pain in the ass to use without heavy tweaking.
It is also heavier than xfce, lxde or wms and doesn't offer stuff plasma does.

>>59770815
Yes.
Vulkan is now default graphics api.

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>>59770815

Gentoo is now default distribution of GNU/Linux

>>59780004
Wayland fucking sucks tho.
> issues?
Well, get fucked.
> want to change output or customize?
Well, get fucked.

- Just Poottering things

>>59782018

go fuck yourself

>>59771382
Fuck optimus in the fucking ass. I fucking hate this shit. It's been how many years and the shit is still fucked. Fucking fuck!

>>59782132
Graphics card shoul not be allowed on laptops, only integrated ones.

>>59782018
>You want it to suck less?
Submit patches, report bugs
>Can't program?
Get fucked

>>59771746
Kek, he's a cuck unironically

>>59782192
>only programmers who contribute are allowed to complain about a specific software when it is FOSS

>>59783514
>If I bitch and moan loud enough it will fix shit
Spoken like a true libtard