>W10 botnet is over This is the year of the Windows desk

>>59755262
>everything is "on" or "off" (I'd imagine)
>diagnostics ("browser, app and feature usage", with "usage" unspecified, and TYPING data)
>no "ON/OFF" option

Nope, still botnet.

>>59755262
Click bait article, no answer to the question in the title. 0/10

We have to get back to the old internet.

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>>59755262
>W10 botnet is over

lmao, suuuuuuure

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BTFO LINUX

>>59755605
By the way, I only lash out in every single Windows thread because /g/ has convinced me that Windows 10 is bad.

>>59755262
>Microsoft uses the data we collect to provide you the products we offer, which includes using data to improve and personalize your experiences.
>We also may use the data to communicate with you, for example, informing you about your account, security updates and product information. And we use data to help show more relevant ads, whether in our own products like MSN and Bing, or in products offered by third parties.
>We share your personal data with your consent or as necessary to complete any transaction or provide any product you have requested or authorized.
>We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries; with vendors working on our behalf; when required by law or to respond to legal process; to protect our customers; to protect lives; to maintain the security of our products; and to protect the rights or property of Microsoft.
>Rather than residing as a static software program on your device, key components of Windows are cloud-based, and both cloud and local elements of Windows are updated regularly, providing you with the latest improvements and features. In order to provide this computing experience, we collect data about you, your device, and the way you use Windows.

This is from the newly updated Microsoft Privacy Statement
Yes Satya, I think we can all agree now that Windows is no longer botnet

>>59755262
Do we have a guarantee from them that this is ALL it collects, and that it doesn't collect anything if I turn all those switches to off?

>>59755748
What self-respecting OS is cloud-based?

>>59755799
Chrome OS

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>>59755794
You can't. It says even in GPEdit

>>59755927
>facebook. the os

>>59755940
How do you go about getting an activated version of w10 ltsb

>>59755987
>what is Microsoft toolkit

>>59756010
https://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/28669-Microsoft-Toolkit-Official-KMS-Solution-for-Microsoft-Products

is it pronounced "tele-metry" or "tel-emetry"?

>>59756212
It's tele-ME-try

Like Del Amitri

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>>59755262
>MS partly reveals what data is collected
>still collects data
>still can't be turned off

fuck off WinCuck

What part is already cloud based ?

>>59756212
tel-eh-meh-tree

Let's approach this from the other side. Let's accept as fact that Microsoft collects data from Windows 10 machines. Microsoft is an enormously wealthy company. Surely they have had lawyers ensure that Windows 10 telemetry abides by the law of land or else Microsoft could end up being sued into oblivion. Also, Windows is sold globally which means it has to abide by laws of numerous countries.

If Windows presents you with the means to turn off nearly all telemetry and then still also makes it clear that it collects and transmits a basic telemetry back to Microsoft, then surely that data is entirely anonymous in all aspects. Imagine the implications if it weren't completely anonymous. There are hospitals and doctors in private practice who use computers with Windows 10 installed. No doubt they have turned off all telemetry believing they were acting in the best interest of their patient's right to privacy. Image now that the so-called "basic telemetry" that Windows 10 collects and transmits included confidential medical info stored on those computers.The law suits would be staggering.

I have to believe that Microsoft's basic telemetry is completely anonymous. There must have been studies done by some pc labs that have discovered what exactly is or isn't transmitted by Windows 10. Where are those studies? Let's put an end to FUD. If Microsoft is guilty, they deserve to be put down and Gates should be sued and imprisoned. Is, on the other hand, Microsoft is respecting right to privacy laws by sending fully anonymous data, then let's move on to something else.

>>59756212

In the US, it is pronounced teh-LEH-meh-tree

>>59756521
It's pronounced, unwarranted ass-fucking.

>>59755262
Notice how you can only choose between "Full" and "basic" telemetry in the screenshot

:^)

>>59756498
Lincucks would argue that that data can never be completely anonymous and then will post things from the Insider builds, where Microsoft makes perfectly clear that is collecting telemetry..

>>59756498
How is it anonymous when they know your IP address?
Anyway, just assuming that MS doesn't send personal data because they could get into "trouble" is fucking retarded. EU countries are preparing to sue MS because of this right now.

>>59756750
>>59756498
>poor poor microsoft bullied by evil linuxfags

Oh noes :((((

>>59756321
None, cloud is marketing bullshit.

>>59756498
Government agencies are above law. As proven by snowden leaks. Law argument is meaningless.

>>59755327
this

>>59755391
soon

>when you distrust MS so much that you'd rather disable automatic updates via messing around in the registry

As long as I don't go around downloading shady porn zips, I'd rather take that risk over letting MS screw me constantly.

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Amount of harm done by the shit MS collects up to this day: 0

>>59755747
Good for you, you're a sheep.

>>59755262

It wasn't really a botnet anyway, fucktards are idiots.

Microsoft is the same thing as other web companies have been doing for decades. The only nobody save for die-hard privacy-rags gave a shit once commercial OS started doing the same thing it suddenly becomes "OMFG T3H BOTNET!" .

Protip: The privacy genie already left the bottle decades ago.

Internet access and meaningful privacy are mutually exclusive terms.

>>59756697
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>59757133
>implying you can tell

Also, it's just a matter of time until shit hits the fan, even more so with the IoT bullshit.

>>59755262
>W10 botnet is over

https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/configure/basic-level-windows-diagnostic-events-and-fields

sure thing kid

>>59757380
That was a lot of words for a post mostly void of content

>lol websites are tracking you, why not have your OS do the same
>theres no such thing as privacy anyway :^)

Stop having opinions.

>>59756856
Same. I disabled Windows update like 2 years ago, I haven't had a single issue.

But its ok when Google, ISPs, TelCos, Credit Card agencies, Universities and others sell/track your data

2 things:

1. Botnet will be still there
2. Switching to 8.1 or 7 won't save you from the usual suspects you fucking twats.

You should only really be looking at Windows 10 at this point on a performance and stability level. It still needs polishing before it's as stable as 8.1.

>>59758192
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>59755262
How do I install ungoogled chromium on windows?

>>59758192

You are an idiot. This isn't the 1990s anymore. The western world has deeply integrated itself with the internet. The old notions of meaningful privacy are gone.

The genie has already been out of the lamp for decades. The masses are just starting to wake-up but they already cross the Rubicon.

The only way is get that back that "privacy" is live without the internet, but it that's becoming more and more difficult.

is it possible to get a chink win10 and slap a western language pack on it, or iss it harder than it seems?

ps the chink win10 has no botnet, as requested the chink gov

>>59758264

says who?

>>59759113
>The only way is get that back that "privacy" is live without the internet

...is to live without the mainstream internet. What we need to do is develop an internet-like form of telecommunication that exists entirely independent of and entirely separate from the current internet. Perhaps something like a BitTorrent technology is the starting point.

>>59755262
Setting everything to off doesn't actually do anything.

What can I do to avoid the w10 botnet? I know is not entirely possible but, is there something I can do?

>>59759113
Again. Stop having opinions.

All you're offering is useless fatalism of the kind the masturbates your ego pretending to be above the issue while offering nothing as a practical solution and disparaging the concerns of people who haven't fully bent over and offered their anuses and still seek to improve the status quo. Yes, wow, "the changing of eras", "the old ways are dead", "the sheeple are unaware", etc. Very profound and everyone's really impressed with you. Shut up now.

>>59760696
Id buy you a beer anon

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>>59757852
Are you afraid of puny AI?

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ok thx microsoft i trust you
i know you wouldn't mislead me

>>59755262
These options have been around since day 1 you fuckboy...and no they don't make it less botnet

>>59758822
Easy.
Install Linux and then install ungoogled chromium.
No Windows necessary!

>>59760542
install gentoo

>>59756212
Télémétry ese!

>>59760472
Donald Trump

>>59760542
Block traffic on router with opensourse firmware.

>>59755262
>trusting ad/spyware that's already been caught multiple times changing users' settings without asking, to listen when you ask it to stop

>>59756212
/ˈtɒləmi/

>>59755748
>>We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries; with vendors working on our behalf; when required by law or to respond to legal process; to protect our customers; to protect lives; to maintain the security of our products; and to protect the rights or property of Microsoft.
>no longer botnet

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>>59763557
>tfw russian
>nobody cares about me except FSB
>can use free OS for free
>americans have to tremble in fear of their data used and sold

>>59755262
Prove that the toggles actually disable that shit.

>>59763557
>to protect lives
They're trying to protect your life man. The least you could do is let them collect data. How ungrateful.

>>59763575
found the russian hacker

>>59763587
>Intel - we intercept your PC to protect lives!

if you use intel CPU you already gave up on everything.

>>59763575
All data collected about Russian citizens is stored on servers located in Russian Federation, in compliance with a somewhat recent law, well within reach of government agencies.

>>59757380
Give me an enterprise version for free, and we are talking, make me spend 100$ on fucking home versions, then go fuck yourself on connecting my data.

As far as i'm concerned if I payed a full retail price, i should be exempt from data mining, anyone who data mines on full retail should be shunned.

you want crash data? fine, i'll chose when/if to send it to you.

>>59763615
Of russian agencies, you see we don't have a fear of our agencies here
they care about three things
narcotics
terrorism/extremism
"dissidents"

also 100% of ISP can monitor whole traffic, if they will bother to target someone they will

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>>59763615
>he thinks ISP are actually doing it, not just showing off papers of doing it
Even if they try, they use some cheap chink shit drives that fail fast.

>>59763672
it's only about personal data, like name, date of birth etc

traffic data centers aren't even in planing stage, I don't think they'll ever be way too expensive

>>59756498
>Trusting the law of the land to be just
This is a company that does business in countries where disagreeing with the government gets you blacklisted from ever participating in society, censors media, arrests people for unapproved political speech, and censors historical information if it makes the government look bad.

>>59756212
Bot-net.

>>59757852
>implying major outages in the US in the last year weren't caused by shitty IoT webcams

>>59755262
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
How short our memories are.

>>59765082
TL;DR: NSA has keys in Windows security and encryption drivers.

"We don't spy."

"Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?"

>>59763529
>tfw when your operating system literally cannot retain your preferences through updates.
What the fuck is this amateur hour?

Anyone happen to have an image or link to one of those guides for minimising the W10 botnet?

>>59755621
That looks beautiful, MS is really stepping up their efforts in design

>>59755747
You're convinced incorrectly. Windows and macOS are the only operating systems of worth. Especially since Ubuntu is a mess with the latest announcement.

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>>59756498
>Anonymous data
>First tech company to get involved in NSA's PRISM project
You can keep believing what you want. I don't know what to tell you.

>>59755327
At least now it tells you about it.

>>59756498
Gates has had nothing to do with microsoft for a while now

>>59755605
Post dem tities

>>59765711
>can keep believing what you want

You missed the point. I don't want to "believe". I want to know for sure. There has to be studies out there somewhere. The public is convinced that Windows 10 gathers data and transmits it. What I want to know is:
1) Does Windows 10 actually gather data
2) If so, what exactly are the specifics of the data it gathers
3) Where is that data stored locally on my pc
4) Does Windows 10 actually transmit that data
5) If so, to where specifically, how often, and what protocols are used?

Paranoia is a useless indicator of the threat level. I want to see empirical evidence of a Windows 10 pc actually gathering and transmitting data. If it can be engineered, it can be reverse engineered. If Windows 10 is in fact gathering and transmitting data, it can be prevented from doing so. Show me an comprehensive empirical study of a Windows 10 pc gathering and transmitting data. Let's examine that data and see if it contains any kind of personal information. Short of that, this is all just FUD. Let's put an end to FUD.

>>59767686
He came back with nutella 3 years ago.