LMAO >https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1 600-review-leak/

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>>59743216

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>>59743216
j-just wait
more fixes are coming

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>>59743216
literally fake news by jewtel, a-am I right, /g/?

>no ram frequencies stated
>comparing a processors at different frequencies

>>59743216
>>59743222
>>59743243
>>59743260
intel paid pajeet samefagging this hard

Yeah, RIP AMD

>months later and several bios revisions
>still only supports 2400 ram

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>inb4 OP uses proxies to hide his blatand samefagging

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>>59743216
IT'S NOT FAIR GUYS

>>59743267
it says 2400 ddr4, amdrones.
>>59743280
you're just mad cuz your employer is losing

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I'll take it

>>59743300
deelet this picture of me

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>>59743280
>tripshit
>phoneshitter
>can't block ads
like pottery

>>59743216
What a fucking failure Ryzen is.

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>>59743389
clover doesn't show the number of posters genius

>>59743359
>barely better than a 4 core CPU
And this is good how?

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>>59743402
literally kill yourself if you can't block ads globally on lagdroid
but as I said
>tripshitter

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>>59743300
>>59743342
>>59743384
>>59743392
>>59743412
Dam cranjeet, the jig is up. Just go home and drink cow piss or whatever you street shitters do.

not a fanboy of either but
>GOING ON PAJEETTECH,COM
literally kys

I literally cannot tell if people like OP are actual shills,
or actually shitpost and think this is funny (wojak-posting).
What the fuck has /g/ become

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stop using slow RAM

>>59743434
>>59743451
u mad, drones? oh wait that's in your natural because AMD = MAD lol get it

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>>59743272
uhh, mines running at 3200mhz on ASUS Prime x370 Pro

>>59743216
Why the fuck would anyone buy an i5 when this exists. This is literally my 5820k that I bought a year and a half ago minus the housefire TDP and expensive and flaky X99 motherboard that I have.

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>>59743478
>not getting paid for shitposting

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>>59743434
>>59743451
>>59743478
>>59743479

>>59743496
It's nothing but shills and shitposters pushing the "AMDead lol pajeets" shit all day.

>>59743503
>Vince Wilfork with his wife under a Blacked logo
This shit always makes me crack up.

>>59743495
but it shows 1596.8 mhz, which is half of what you claimed. check m8

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>>59743531

>>59743531
Because it's Dual Channel retard, all DDR4 shows half the speed in CPU-Z it's not just a Ryzen thing

>>59743546
lmao this is what amd fanboys really believe.
really makes you think

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>>59743478
This thread specifically is.

This is OP before he was discovered: >>59743280

And now suddenly it's populated by posters parroting the same thing.

Intel has been would a hell of a lot more than they'd care to admit and they're giving ryzen as much bad PR as they can dish out.

>>59743531
youre memeing me huh

>>59743561
You're obviously technologically illiterate, go check your own RAM in CPU-Z if you don't believe me

>>59743562
why did you hide your ads, tripfag? found it embarrassing just like how ryzen """""cpu""""" performs in benchmarks?

>>59743546
>Because it's Dual Channel
This is the intelligence level of the typical amdrone.

>>59743216
>Currytech review by hassan,displaying Spanish benchmarks...

What is this? Amateur hour at the Apollo?

>>59743216
This entire thread started as cancerous and has been nothing but /v/-tier retard trolls spamming crying wojacks and "u mad AMDfags ryzen btfo" from the start. Really, just fucking nuke it from orbit.

>>59743581
I own a macbook, poor peasant.

>>59743531
you're an idiot

>>59743597
I mean Double Data Rate

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>>59743590
Oh because can and forgot to the first time. Some website don't work with ad blockers so I have good old chrome to be there for me in those dark times.

>>59743610
He's a paid shill, he's getting paid per post so he will drag this out as long as possible before the thread 404s.

>>59743562
>muh PR
Except it was AMD's fault and their fault only that Ryzen was a flop, and again, because they continually fail to surpass Intel or Nvidia in any meaning/significant way. So with Ryzen they've basically caught up with Intel to where game performance is worse than Intel (for a higher price) and productivity performance is about equal (for a lower price) to Intel. (I should also point out that all Intel would have to do is lower the price of their high end cpu and it would take away ANY reason to buy an AMD Ryzen cpu) But that's a failure because AMD needed to soundly beat Intel on both fronts, and it couldn't even do that despite going up against older Intel chips. Intel will be releasing new chips and I have no doubt they will utterly destroy Ryzen.

proof of the paid shill: >>59743635

These are the generic meaningless replies you'll get if you dare question the darklord intel.

>>59743627
>tripfag
>embrace botnet
what a surprise, and I bet you are that kinda guy who fucks a man in the ass and don't even have the common courtesy to give him a reach around.
also, are amdrones that desperate instead to post fake benchmarks? lmao

more proof of the paid shill: >>59743668

Remember: you can help, just report and sage

>>59743627
>muh memory speeds
Except that's already been proven to have barely any impact on Ryzen's performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cHJ7FDZKg8

As most people suspected, MindBlank Tech was full of shit, which isn't surprising considering he's literally a designated street shitter Pajeet.

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Even more proof: >>59743682
>gamer nexus

>>59743657
>>59743680
>the city of amdrones
instead of giving proof or arguments, just autistically screeching SHILL SHILL SHILL
guess what kinda master has what kinda slaves

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>still cheaper than Intel
Can't wait to pick mine up

even more proof: >>59743704

I rest my case

>>59743724
I rest my dick in your mom's arse

>R5 faster than R7 at lower clockspeeds

Makes sense.

>>59743657
He's getting paid. Your doing it for free.
I know which is worse. Do you?

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>>59743724
>>59743739
tripfag eternally btfo

>>59743744
It's because these """""journalists""""" can't even be bothered to run the R7 tests again with the same platform improvements that the R5 is benefiting from.

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>>59743724

>amd is so broke they can't even pay their shills

lmao kill urself tripfag

>HE DOES IT FOR FREE

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>>59743609
>>59743597

>>59743723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4K7eIEAJx0

I feel sorry for anyone who actually buys a Ryzen 5.

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>>59743751
>>59743796
guess janny is too busy beating off to cartoon otherwise you both are permanent banned

>>59743812
*autistic screechi---POP goes the VRM*

>>59743216

It looks like Ryzen 5 is going to be a viable competitor to current i5 line-up like it was intended to be.

Slightly slower single-threaded performance (MAH GAYHING!) but better multi-threaded performance (Real work). I'm just hoping that Ryzen 5 retain ECC support.

i7-7700K and i7-6800K now make even less now to get. I'm kinda suprised that Intel hasn't done price cuts on their current Socket 2011 offerings.

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daily reminder that intel will do everything in their power to shove delidlake down your throat

>>59743824
>It looks like Ryzen 5 is going to be a viable competitor to current i5 line-up
No, just no. See >>59743812
At best it will match a low clocked 7400, but don't expect it to be on par with a 7600k.

>>59743778
BIOS updates don't increase performance you halfwit, this was an obvious shill diversion JustWAIT tactic

>>59743834
>>>/pol/
what's wrong with people here so obsessed with antisemitism? just because they are better? Intel is better than amd, and jewish people are smarter and hardworking than you. You just being jealous because they are better.

>>59743812
salazar

Holy shit, the tripcuck is right, this thread really does have a paid shill.

AMD is fucking done and I couldn't be happier, filing in bankrupcy as we speak and its glorious

>>59743870
>>>/gaschamber/

Well, it seems I have waited for nothing in the end.

1600X is a failure sold at 300€ with no cooler.

You can argue for the 1600 all you want, but you won't go beyond 3.8Ghz either without bumping the voltage to sky and buying some high-end cooler.

And then still it would be on par with the i5-7600K at best.


Delusional retards, there are too many of them on the internet.

>>59743870
6 million weren't enough.

>>59743862
Yeah, that explains why a hexa core chip is beating an octa core chip from the same family and clocked at the exact same frequency on those graphs. The 1600X is actually a magic CPU running on rainbows and stardust, which more than makes up for having two cores and four threads shaved off.

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>>59743359
how CONVENIENT that the Intels often use way overclocked memory whereas the Ryzens are all running stock memory speeds.

>>59743914
kys shill

>indel white people shills ruining my amd brand

Fuck to you

>>59743280
>Ads
Whybare you lurking a technology board if you cannot do simple stuff like blocking ads?
And tripfagging even

>>59743942
>Israeli
>white

Quote me if you want AMD out from this market, we don't need them

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

>>59743858

> ^ I blame the lack of reading compensation or ADHD

> Protip: Read the thread again.

>"slightly slower single-threaded performance (MAH GAYHING!), but better multi-threaded (Real Work)

Wasn't that hard mate?

Anybody who thought that Ryzen would have better single-threaded performance than Skylake and Kaby Lake at this point are just plain delusional.

The difference isn't that big either. Intel Shills are just mad that AMD made a viable competitor and it is hurting their bottom line since Intel might have do a price cuts on their current line-up.

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>>59743996
You're super desperate for those roopeas huh sanjreet?

>>59744007
>site known for shilling for AMD

>>59743903
>fell for /g/ meme
I feel you bro.

>>59744007
What do you get out of replying to these people? I guess as a tripfag we know you have a low IQ, but surely even you can see that they're just shitposters looking for attention, which you're repeatedly giving them? I don't understand. Help me out here.

I certainly do not want to overclcock my rig, I am seriously thinking of sending the cpu and motherboard back and buying an i7 7700k rig. I am not an engineer nor did I pay 1300 Canadian dollars to beta test a platform that AMD rushed out the door before it's ready!

I certainly do not want to overclcock my rig, I am seriously thinking of sending the cpu and motherboard back and buying an i7 7700k rig. I am not an engineer nor did I pay 1300 Canadian dollars to beta test a platform that AMD rushed out the door before it's ready!

>>59744041
>people already returning Ryzen in droves

You literally cannot make this shit up at this point

>>59743903
JUST WAIT 10 YEARS GOY
IT WILL BE GOOD WHEN EVERYTHING IS USING GORILLION THREADS THEN

>>59744038
Nah m8, these are paid shills and I just want to out them out.

I understand there are also shitposters but these are definitely not it.

see: >>59743280 and >>59743870

>>59744038
Because tripfag wants more attention, how is that hard for you to understand? He fucking puts a trip on his post.

Why are AMD followers so braindamaged?

They have started to claim things even AMD have denied or have stated otherwise.

The only point or more like hope you can have, is that the software developers will optimize for more cores as fast as possible.

Otherwise your moar cores will be too slow already by the time the majority of software really profit from so many cores.

Same stuff with HBM in the graphics section.
Totally useless with the Fury Series.

The speed in benchmarks are only related to the usage of higher clocked ram.

Which itself is funny, because ram is expensive nowadays, especially 3200Mhz+ ram.

The shizophrenic thing about that is AMD followers still think AMD is somehow cheaper than Intel but at the same time urge you to buy super expensive ram.

Whatever, internet nowadays is mainstream, so it shouldn't surprise me that the absolute majority of people here are morons, thinking they are some sort of Robin Hood or social justice warrior by supporting the underdog or whatever.

To sum it up:

1.AMD has never claimed to beat Skylake/Kaby Lake

-> They have reached and surpassed their own goals, fair enough

2.AMD has stated that it all depends on the software developers whether they could close the gap to Intel a bit more by utilizing the cores

3.AMD is not cheaper than Intel, not for the non-professional user. If all you do is rendering and compiling kernels, fair enough, then Ryzen is good.

4.Buying a Ryzen now makes you pretty much a beta-tester.

5.Ram is expensive.

6.Choice of motherboards is very limited.

I think Pinnicale Ridge is gonna be good because matured and optimized.
But only if Intel will do nothing.

>>59744060
You're retarded, kill yourself.

Filtered.

>>59743905
not even remotely

>>59744071
thanks

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guys. I'm seriously having a hard time deciding between AMD or INTEL

>>59744099
Just buy Intel like a normal person. If you are retarded, join the red team.

infintel babbies on suicide watch
http://imgur.com/a/o4yDR

>>59743243
>>59743222
>>59743216
>>59743260
Intense samefaggotry

>>59743412
because the 4 core is 1ghz higher and the ram is heavily overclocked

>>59743359
>roughly 80% of the performance of the 1700x in what appears to be an actually multithreaded workload
>75% of the coars
>also 75% of the price
i'll take it

>>59743903
Fucking this. The 1600 is utter shit in comparison to the 7600k, both in terms of price and gaming performance.

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>>59744108

>>59743412
>better than a 4core housefire with shit ram
how is this bad?

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>>59743216
>>59743222
>>59743243
>>59743260

>same fagging this hard

Uhh... They're testing a 1600 that costs like... $250? Or something, against a i7 6700 that's the price of a R7 1700, and outside of Warhammer, they're pretty much the same in games.


What's wrong here?

>>59744186
1600 non X is $220

>>59744108
>benchmarks by some random AMD shill
Yeah let's just forget all the professional benchmarks so far that showed Ryzen 7 to be barely better than a 7600k at half its price.

>>59744206
this, what we need are gaymernexus benchmarks at 240p resolution :^)

>>59744186
The problem is AMD didn't release a chip that's 200% faster at 1/3 the price.

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>>59744206
>Trusting "professional" based benchmarks made by known intel sponsored channels

>>59744108
Corelet did they ever learn

>>59743903
>reddit formatting
>ignores the fact that all intel cpus have ocd ram but not ryzen
oh vey

>>59744186
AMD gave us no new innovation, so nobody really cares if they're as good as Intel.

I do not want to overclcock my rig, I am seriously thinking of sending the cpu and motherboard back and buying an i7 7700k rig. I am not an engineer nor did I pay 1300 Canadian dollars to beta test a platform that AMD rushed out the door before it's ready!

>>59744344
hahaha, are you just gonna spam the same shit over and over again in hopes of getting a few more roopeas cranjeep?

>>59744325
This, literally no point to Ryzen if it can't beat intel's offerings. So glad I didn't buy into the AMD hype and got a 7600k instead.

>>59744344
Good goy just ignore the fact that 7700k test were done at 5ghz vs stoke ryzen with shit ram

>>59744344
this, i'm no cuck, i will buy the pentium g4560 right now, they literally have the same performance

>>59744325
The only innovation I care about is a shitload of cores for my 2U rack and enough memory to run PERMAS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtyaGppWknE

wait for vega

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>>59744325
>6c/12t starting at $219
>reasonably priced motherboards
This kind of performance cost(s) $390 + at least $200 for a motherboard if you want comparable performance from intel. (5820k/6800k + X99 motherboard). 6c/12t performance/price has basically been stagnant since the 5820k was released in late 2014.

>>59744364
>>59744376
You guys need to be more subtle.

>>59744385
srry, i'm drunk, maybe my decision making isn't the best right now.

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>>59744412
>can't discuss CPUs and get drunk at the same time
h*cking lightweight

>>59744186
I'm sorry but you're delusional, they're testing against SKYLAKE, which is and old architecture, Kabylake is 15% faster generally

>>59743216
>actually read the article
>it's almost entirely positive
wtf is this thread

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>>59744435

>>59744435
>Kabylake is 15% faster* generally

>(*)Tested on mobile 15W ULV SKU with higher clock speeds, in sysmark and running higher speed memory

>>59744385
>This kind of performance cost(s) $390 + at least $200 for a motherboard if you want comparable performance from intel. (5820k/6800k + X99 motherboard). 6c/12t performance/price has basically been stagnant since the 5820k was released in late 2014.

It still depends what you want to do with your pc though. If you just enjoy gaming, Intel is still going to hold the lead. Ryzen is good at a lot of things, but single core threading has never in the last decade once surpassed Intels, which is what the majority of video game developers design for.
Majority of plebs have single core threaded cpus, thus this is where games are marketed to.
Also I assume like every single AMD wishful thinker you're going to claim the majority of developers already are designing for multicore threading, feel free to add some evidence.

>>59744435
nope they are literally the same re branded architecture with hardly any noticable difference in FPS in games which is easily explained by the higher clocks on kaby

>>59744473
it's going to be obselete in less than a year. The socket is already dead. 4 cores is barely enough now and won't be worth shit in 2018.

>>59744473
The problem is that when you do run short on threads/cores, the chip is immediately obsolete as it has nowhere to go and we're already seeing core utilization top out in i5s and Kaby i7s. Ryzen offers 85-90% of the single threaded performance and DOUBLE the threads for a similar price. It's a no-brainer if you're starting with nothing.

>>59744473
You're completely missing the point here. going to the AM4 socket means opening yourself for an upgrade towards Zen+ and above. While those who stuck for Kaby/Skylake are going to be stuck in 1150 with no upgrade path to a future newer architecture.

>>59744568
Zen+ is shit just like Zen so its irrelivent

>>59744568
>While those who stuck for Kaby/Skylake are going to be stuck in 1150 with no upgrade path to a future newer architecture
Because it's so hard to sell your old CPU/mobo and get a new vastly improved one right?

>>59744621
If you count a Skylake dieshrink and Skylake dieshrink refresh something of "vast improvements", I guess you can.

>>59744526
>>59744557
>>59744568
>Also I assume like every single AMD wishful thinker you're going to claim the majority of developers already are designing for multicore threading, feel free to add some evidence.

I literally predicted that all 3 of you would have the same response.
I understand that when games do all switch, people will have to build entirely new rigs. I'm arguing that you could even build an i7 rig now, and be fine for ~5 years or whatever.
Developers will not design games solely for 6-8 core cpus when the majority of their market are still using quadcores.
Feel free to show me where 60% of people in 2018 are expected to build new ryzen pcs m8s.

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>>59743359
so the r1600 is half price of the 7700k and still beats it despite the test giving it shit memory?

and it comes with a free cooler?
awesome.

>>59744671
Wrong.

>>59743495
Notice how filthy shitskinned Indian pooinlo AMDead subhuman poorfag niggers always use CPUz? It's because it's bugged for Ryzen and it doesn't even calculate actual single core performance. Sad!

>>59744618
>CCX communication is affected by RAM speed
>DDR5 imminent.
I don't know who you want to fool, but sure.

>>59744687
whats wrong about that?
your feelings?

>$220 CPU within 5-10% of a $310 i7 with much faster memory in games
>while demolishing it in productivity
>also comes with a good cooler


What is this thread about even?

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>>59743216
>article concludes it will be a good chip for high end gaming
>shitposters claim this is a bad thing
They must really be sweating at Intel HQ for them to fund this kind of shilling.

>>59744722
AMD doesn't give any new innovations and that makes them boring to buy, a small price difference doesn't change anything

>>59743918
I noticed the opposite, nigger. Shills always have rypoo at 3200-3600MHz and Intel at 3000MHz even though it can do 4000MHz.
>how CONVENIENT
Poozen barely supports 2666MHz for most people. What a nasty "company".

Every gaming benchmark on Ryzen is gimped by Nvidia's shitty DX12 anyhow. They are all meaningless.

>>59744644
>I'm arguing that you could even build an i7 rig now, and be fine for ~5 years or whatever.
That's just not a good gamble. If Ryzen were dropped when the 4790k was hot shit years ago, maybe I'd agree. But in 2017 we're already seeing balls to the wall overclocks on 7700k's hitting 100% thread usage in newer games if you simulate a CPU bottleneck with low graphics settings. That isn't going to get any better.

>>59744736
are you fucking sure? The whole reason why there's a disconnect between productivity and gaming benches is because AMD is fielding something really new.

>>59744722
>>59744731
AMD is shit at gaming, this is fact

I would never ever recommend anyone AMD, because I care about my friends security and care about their experience, most of all I don't want them coming to me telling me I recommended them something useless!

>>59744756
this is the exact attitude Intelfags had when the P4 shit itself against the Athlon 64

The R5's are nice but there's no better value out there than a 1700 with stock cooler + $90-100 B chipset motherboard

>>59744770
Fun fact: Intel kept saying that Single core performance was more important than multicore systems during the advent of the Athlon64x2.


History is about to repeat itself.

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>>59744768
>intel
>security
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59744791
7700k is better price/perf

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>>59744736
Too bad Intel is infinitely shittier now.

>>59744849
>$350 CPU + delid job + $70 cooler + $160 motherboard

Great value there you fucking kike, for that extra shit the delidlake needs I can move from a 1080 to a 1080ti, which will make a whole lot more difference than your shitty stuttterfest that's incapable of having more than 1 application opened at once without minfps tanking.


Gas chambers weren't enough.

>>59744889
If you want the best of the best, you need a 7700k

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>>59744889
Ples delet dis

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>>59744889
this lmao

>>59744473
There's a massive company that can make a huge impact on the gaming industry: Bethesda.

I could easily see the next Elder Scrolls game being heavily threaded thanks to their announced partnership with AMD. Hell, we already got Doom (yes I know it's ID Software, but Bethesda still published it).

Hypothetically, we would see benchmarks of Ryzen being at the top, with gamers flocking to stores to buy it afterwards. That's just a guess though.

And before any retards claim that it's not fair, Intel's processors would benefit greatly from this too. Only Nvidia would be shitting themselves at that point (DX11 sucks cock, it's the only reason high clock speeds even matter to gamers at the moment).

>>59744889
delid this

I cannot wait to see the massacre that will be Ryzen+Vega+DX12/Vulkan.

>>59744911
Nobody's gonna buy that stuttering housefire abortion.

>>59744911
If I want the best of the best I'd get a 6950X or the 16 core Zens, not a crappy dual channel corelet

>>59744849
>>59744911
This is actually the face of a completely defeated intel shill that has resorted to epick trolling.

>>59744889
Roasted.

>>59744926
why can't we have vulkan everywhere honestly it perform so well

>>59743216
>>59743359
>slower ram on like every test
>doing fucking great and always on top of every other cpu that has the same ram speed

fucking fantastic chip

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>>59743267
>>59743562
>>59743434
>>59743627
>>59743634
>>59743657
>>59743680
>>59743690
>>59743724
>>59744007
>>59744060
>>59744077
>>59744162
>>59744361
>>59744917
>Phoneposter
>Tripfag
>AMD shill for free
holy shit it doesn't get worse than this
I've seen less cancer at a St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

>>59743412
uhh you retarded bro?
2400 vs 3600 ram
4ghz vs 4.9 ghz
there's literally no reason the ryzen chip should win, but it does.

>>59744799
Yup. I'm feeling another Netburst situation's going to happen again.

>>59744799

Too bad the Athlon 64 was faster than their P4 equivalent at single threaded tasks and the 64X2 was waster than the P4 with HT. Even if they were right about single core performance mattering the fact their product was worse at said single core perf makes it a hilarious statement.

>>59744070
This pretty much

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>>59744889
>$350 CPU + delid job + $70 cooler + $160 motherboard
And 30% better performance than Ryzen which makes up for the extra cost. Are you that fucking stupid that you can't even do basic math?

>>59743412
>>59744990
OH AND IT'S FUCKING CHEAPER

>>59744981
t. paid intel shill kike

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>>59744990

>>59745009
see
>>59743627
>>59744108

>>59744922
>Bethesda
>Optimise anything

I k ow AMD fans are stupid, but that's some next level optimism.

>4 core CPUs will be outdated next year.
I've been hearing this since Sandy bridge.

Yet here we are
A rebranded 7700k house fire still beats out 8 core Ryzen in Gaming.

>>59745009
you just voided your warranty by delidding the package. At least you have full warranty with the R5.

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>>59745015
you sure showed him, what an intelligent response

>>59745009
Post Fallout 4 from Mar 3

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>>59744995
LONGER BIPELINES 7740K TOPPEST OF KEKERINOS

>>59745049
No seriously, look: >>59743870

>>59745039
De-lidding actually doesn't void warranty anymore

Sent from my FX 8350

>>59745063
>falling for falseflags so easily
would expect nothing less from a tripfag I can assure you the only dime I've ever recieved from intel was my refund for a shitty SSD and a penny in my ass

>>59745009
Even your precious hippie crybaby at Gamers Nexus yesterday put it within some 6-7% in a plethora of games.

I think I'll get the Vega/1080ti instead, should be a much larger performance jump

>>59745034

>>59743627 are fake benchmarks made by AMD shills.
The real benchmarks we've been seeing show a much smaller gain from faster 3600mhz ram.

However, Zen is gaining
Just not
>Zen gains 30% in every benchmark!

>>59745085
No you dumbfuck, the intel shill in this thread is a kike. Why do you think he got so emotional when his filthy vermin kind were mentioned?

>>59745009
>7700k
No thanks I don't want my house to explode.

>>59745103
Literally a falseflag bud lurk more

>>59745099
Vega is shit bro

>>59745099
>>59745100
protip: look at the dx11 vs dx12 nvidia + ryzen benchmarks

>>59745114
I wish, that anon was as kike as kike goes. Fresh out of the oven as you say.

>>59745120
I'm not your bro you filthy, repugnant kike.

>AMDtards are racist and bigots children

Very Sad!

>>59745162
Honestly I always found incinerators much more beautiful than gas chambers.

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>>59743359
>7700k
>4,9 GHz
>3600 MHz
and yet it still lost against a 1600 with 2400 mhz ram?

>>59743216
>>59743359
>Intel CPUs with overclocked RAM
>bone stock Ryzen
leak paid for by Intel

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>>59744946
STOP

>>59745191
Watching that flame, which purifies every filth really is calming, isn't it?

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>>59745162
into the gas chamber you go

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>>59745162
lol, you are a jew

>>59745037
I know Bethesda has a shitty reputation for optimization, but Vulkan and DX12 releases are becoming a little more frequent with each year. That along with the AMD + Bethesda partnership makes this more plausible than previously thought. Especially since the "strongest" gaming consoles happen to use 8 cores. Bethesda might not suck shit this time.

Come on man, I'm sure everyone would love to have all their cores utilized.

>>59745261
Nvidia wouldn't want to, they're satisfied with their GPUs being at 50% load in DX12

It's a power saving feature.

>>59745261
In my experience amd sponsored games run like absolute dogshit. I own both hitman and day sex and they both run like absolute garbage unless you drop settings. On the opposing side games like for honor and mass effect run pretty well for me. Too bad they're both shit though.

>>59745278
holy fuck, i knew something wasn't right in those benchmarks...

>>59745278
Thank you novideo I got 980Ti performance with a TitanXP but much power savings to save trees

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>>59745162
Kill yourself, scum.

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>>59745312
What are you talking about everything's fine.

Working as Intended.

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>>59745338
jesus christ almighty

>>59745338
Fucking hell, Nvidia.

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>>59745361
It gets better.
Two Hawaii's is one thing, but against a single Fury X? That thing is 28nm and generally 50% slower in DX11

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>>59745381
>>59745361
>Game shows GPU utilization issues with Nvidia
>It's their fault
>Game shows bad CPU or GPU utilization with AMD
>Blame is deflected
>It's intels fault
>It's the games fault
>It's Nvidias fault
>It's microsofts fault
>It's the motherboard makers fault
>F-Fucking backhand tactics

>>59745278
I know you're talking about optimization, but the funny thing is that Fermi has all the right tools for DX12 (like the hardware scheduler). If, oh I dunno, DX12 was enabled on Fermi, we might see the GTX 480 being way stronger than anticipated.

But Nvidia wouldn't like that though...
:D

>>59745338
I'm not so sure this was intentional by Nvidia or if it just is really a true fact that their DX12 driver is completely fucked. They had to know their cards would be paired with Ryzen in a new slew of benchmarks once it dropped since they have the default high end cards right now with Titan XP/1080ti not having much competition. Did they not expect anyone to test with a crossfire AMD setup? They just look incompetent.

>>59745411
lol amdrones btfo

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>>59745338
>Titan XP only using 50%
>Only 20 FPS behind AMD flagship

>>59745424
Not incompetent, simply had no way to do a CPU topology fix for their drivers since they had no way to get Ryzen by the time the benchmarks were done, which was a week before launch.

>>59745009
Maybe if you post this shitty bench one more time, it magically won't suck. j/k you're a cocksucking shill.

>>59745454
Turn back on your trip

>>59745424
There's a good chance that Nvidia might be doing this on purpose. They wouldn't want to make Ryzen look good. If they did, then DX12 would look fucking incredible.

Nvidia wants to cling to DX11 for a reason. In DX12, no hardware scheduler = fucked.

born too late to walk with the dinosaurs, born too early to explore space, born just in time to witness amd die

feels good man

>>59745474
Not if I go back in time and abort you, you retarded sack of shit with down syndrome.

>>59745494
Turn your trip back on

>>59745463
>>59745507
retard

>>59745468
There's a good chance Nvidia will make their GPUs look bad? Are you retarded? What happens when Vega launches? Even a child can think 2 months in the future.

>>59745511
You sure showed me

>>59745411
Most accurate post itt

>>59745529
Let me show you this *peazips dicks*

>>59745468
Holy fucking shit kill yourself. Most retarded post I've seen in ages and you're serious too.

Is this thread for real? Really? Man, I like Intel. I have an Intel CPU. But that isn't lackluster AT ALL. It's a 219$ chip that will be more than enough for literally anything, pulling 70 fps in the worst case scenario.

Am I missing something here? This looks good.

>>59745527
That's what I'm wondering. They either knew this was coming and couldn't do anything about it or knew this was coming and didn't do anything about it anyway.

I can't wait to get my hands on that 16 core Zen Opteron and overclock it.

>>59745527
It could just be shitty optimization by Nvidia then. Or lack of proper hardware in Pascal. Or both. They might have reached a dead end.

They'll just deal with shit performance until Volta launches.

>>59745603
>They either knew this was coming and couldn't do anything about it or knew this was coming and didn't do anything about it anyway.
novidya in a nutshell

>>59745573
Intel shills are clinically retarded, news at 11.

>>59745631
Volta doesn't seem to have a hardware scheduler either.

Every night I fall asleep thinking why my country supported Hitler if he couldn’t even finish the job.

I blame you shitty Americans, you ruined everything, you and your needless interference.

>>59745603
They knew what was coming? Are you fucking stupid? They probably don't even know this is an actual issue till a few days ago. Amd was using the titan x even before ryzen launched and performance was fine as amd were achieving all their predicted numbers. There is no "saw this coming" bullshit. I assume it's also the motherboard vendors fault for having shitty launch bios because amd didn't provide them with the necessary information till a week before launch or Windows fault because amd made a flawed architecture which requires specific optimization to work as intended and both of these companies "should have seen this coming". I guess you're right. Everyone should have seen amd's incompetency coming years ago.

>>59745638
Just turn your trip back on

>>59745647
Nvidia would be retarded not to reintroduce it at this point in time.

Unless they're worried about losing their reputation for being energy-efficient. AMD took the hit, and now it's paying off.

>>59745690
he's not the tripfag you retarded mouth breather

Why do you even like the fucking tripfag so much, what are you, his boyfriend?

>>59745684
It literally does the same shit on Intel's 8 cores as well you fucking retard, it's neither Intel's nor AMD's fault that Nvidia's kusoshit of a driver picks its nose while the card waits for direction in DX12.

DX11 is fine.

>>59745725
How do you know?

>>59745684
Did you completely forget that Intel had similar results too? Nvidia's fucked up with their architecture and it's starting to show.

When I meant "did this on purpose." I meant they can't do shit because of Pascal's inherent problems. So they're just holding the fort until Volta's ready.

>>59745720
tripfag detected

Software accommodates hardware, if Nvidia has a load balancing issue in their driver then it's their job to fix it.

Hardware should under no circumstance ever trail software, HPC applications are literally written nowadays by tiptoeing around Intel's, AMD's and Nvidia's huge errata lists.

>>59745603
Or, stick with me here, Nvidia's drivers need a fundamental rewrite in order to properly scale with threads. It is also possible that without a hardware scheduler, the cards simply cannot keep up with real multithreading. We've known for a long time that Nvidia dealt with the removed scheduler through insane single thread optimization. It is entirely likely that Nvidia painted themselves into a corner here. They might release a driver eventually (after the summer, at best) that improves things, but I think we'll have to see a hardware scheduler on Volta for the threading issue to be fully resolved.

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Why is Windows + Intel Compiler so garbage?

Thankfully Wintel is dying, Microsoft told Intel to fuck off and joined with Qualcomm/ARM.
Haha, what a meltdown

>>59745784
Show me these Intel results.

Reputable source only.

>>59745720
found the other tripfag

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>>59745684
I wouldn't rule anything out when it comes to Nvidia trying to hide the fact that their GPUs have nothing going for them when it comes to DX12. The very concept of a low level API is completely alien to Nvidia's business practice, which typically involves getting in good with software developers and making custom driver hacks on a game by game basis. It doesn't involve giving developers access to the bare metal and letting them leverage the power of the hardware as they see fit.

In general Nvidia, as a "hardware" company, has way too much fucking access to how games run on PC. It's a complete conflict of interest. DX12 is the chemo to this cancer but devs have to be onboard or they'll just keep taking the easy way out and sticking with the known quantity that is DX11.

>>59745831
Maybe. I don't think this can be fixed just through software but bandaids may help. I know this sounds waitfaggy but there will come a time within the next year or two that a DX12 version of a game just absolutely crushes its DX11 counterpart. Nvidia has to stall for time until they get things sorted out on the hardware side.

>>59745855
>ARM
You think this is a good thing? You do realize emulating x86 on arm incurs a heavy performance penalty, right?

Don't even get me started on the absolute dogshit performance/watt and horryfing single-core performance.

>>59745784
They would be able to make Ryzen look bad without even doing anything because Pascal sucks balls without the hardware scheduler in DX12.

They could be hoping for Ryzen to have a poor reputation by the time Volta comes out. Then they could pair Volta with Intel (clock speeds) to get more of that delicious DX11 performance. It makes sense.

>>59745777
>>59745860
still waiting for these results from a reputable source

>>59745901
Go cry in your crib, Krzanich.

>>59745925
as i guessed. more paid amd shills lying about things.

whats new i guess.

>>59745919
Based Nvidia always one step ahead of the game as usual.

>>59745990
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dx12+nvidia+driver+bug+ryzen

>>59746061
>ryzen

i'm talking about the alleged intel bug on nvidia gpu that this one paid shill keeps samefagging about

>>59745049
I'm trying to imagine what kind of intelligent response "I've seen less cancer at a St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital".

>>59743216
I only get 2050 in single core test with my 7700K on CPU-Z. How the hell can he get 2250?

Anyone with a 7700K on stock speed to try it out right now?
My Cinebench 15 score is slightly above theirs so I doubt it's my chip that sucks. I hope that is.

>>59746123
Have you delided your shitbird yet? I'm kinda regretting getting mine and seriously thinking about returning it. Fucking kikes screwed us all over for a couple of cents.

>>59746084
it's an nvidia bug that prevents proper threading, not an intel bug. if nvidia fixes it, intel also benefits and the 7700k could actually pull farther away from ryzen

>>59746137
No, my temps aren't so bad. 65°C under load, maximum I've seen is 75°C when doing heavy benchmark (OCCT). Here again I'm at stock (4400mhz max), so if I were to overclock I'd probably need a better cooler (currently on a H7). I'm not sure I'm regretting anything so far, I have some glitches with Windows 10 but I don't believe it's my processor's fault.

Tell me about you anon, what temps for what frequency?

>>59746140
nobody has shown me any evidence this bug is on intel. everything on google and other forums say it's isolated to ryzen only.

>>59746174
hyper evo 212, my piece of shit is maxing out at 88C on stock settings.

Did you undervolt? I haven't had any luck with that unfortunately.

>>59746198
i just told you it's not an intel bug, can you not read?

>>59746221
Yeah I undervolted to 1.250 volt (which makes it send 1.236 because of the normal loss). I could probably undervolt even further (which I might do in Summer if it gets too hot). What's your current voltage? 88°C is crazy, I don't think I've ever seen it go over 80°C so far.

Also, could you tell me your CPU-Z scores? On the bench tab.

>>59744099
be a good goy and buy jewtel you fucking autistic goy give me money now you fucking spastic

>>59746235
that this nvidia bug* is on intel? happy now amd shill? are they not paying you enough? you seem frustrated.

>>59746221
>>59746244
can i see your speccys?

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>>59746270

>>59746244
>What's your current voltage? 88°C is crazy, I don't think I've ever seen it go over 80°C so far.
stock, haven't changed a thing since. Think it goes to like 1.45 on load

>Also, could you tell me your CPU-Z scores? On the bench tab.
Haven't done that yet and I'm encoding some stuff right now so I can't do a bench either. I'll report back later if this thread is still alive tomorrow.

>>59746305
Definitely the voltage's fault then. Undervolt for better temps. You need to look at the vcore (under mobo) on things like HWiNFO64 by the way, not the VID. The VID is only what the processor is asking for but that's not necessarily what it needs and it's not what it's receiving.

>>59746284
you don't have a gpu?

>>59746305
can i see your speccy?

>>59746260
it's not "on intel," it's related to threading. i'm not explaining any father because you're obviously too stupid to understand, but for the record, I will say it again: intel processors stand to gain from a properly threaded Nvidia driver just as much as AMD processors do.

The reason nobody has done a benchmark to satisfy your autistic ass is because nobody buys a 5820k, 6800k, 6900k to pair it with dual RX480s or an R9 295X2.

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>>59746084
It's not as pronounced on the i7 7700k, but the point still stands. The GTX 1070 is unable to use the threads on both cpus to their actual potential. The gains are shitty for the 1070 while the crossfire 480s get a massive boost (because hardware scheduler). AMD and Intel have nothing to do with the Nvidia's gimped architecture. They want Ryzen, and consequently, DX12 + Vulkan to fail.

Pascal isn't going to easily handle all those threads with drivers alone. It needs an actual hardware scheduler to do it well.

Nvidia is fucking up hardcore as we speak. It's fucking hilarious how this turned from a AMD vs Intel thread to a "Did Nvidia fuck up?" thread.

>inb4 "adoredtv is amd shill you fuckface"

>>59746341
No I'm waiting for VEGA to decide since there most likely will be prices drop.

>>59746347
And by they I mean Nvidia.

>>59746341
>can i see your speccy?
Kinda scared it might fuck up my encode I started a few hours ago. I'm encoding a 1080p movie with HEVC on the slow preset and with a CRF of 16. I'll post it tomorrow morning if this thread is still up by then.

>>59746347
the r9 furyx also has a hardware scheduler and is also the most powerful single gpu amd have made yet it still gets turfed by the 1070 in dx11 AND dx12 in multiple dx12 games. what's your excuse for that?

>Nvidia is fucking up hardcore as we speak
oh really now. last i saw they took even more market share from amd for like the 5th month straight

>>59746347
There is a reason people don't listen to Adored
Not because he's just a fanboy but because he's always wrong

>>59746397
didn't he say the 2500k is like 20% slower than an 8350 in 2017 because of some benchmarks which don't even show the 8350 but then went on full damage control after HUB tested that exact thing and found him to be lying?

>>59743918
Maybe because people shouldn't have to buy extra special 1337 gaymen RAM or motherboards just to get above 2400 on RAM. Not intel's fault AMD cant handle gud RAM

>>59746424
Yes

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Jesus...I thought AMD was doing well with RYZEN but it's not. I'm a bit glad I went with team blue.

>>59746435
Now there blaming windows or other excuses because there new Ryzen mobos are RMA'd or getting bricked too.

Is it so hard for these fucking idiots to compare benchmarks using the same hardware?

>>59744070
>3200 cl16 costs 10$ more than some shit 2400
>expensive
You dont't say

>>59746397
>>59746424
HUB verified Adored's results regarding the Nvidia driver issue. Another youtuber has committed to testing dual Xeons with AMD and Nvidia cards.

>>59746383
this isn't about the absolute performance of the cards, it's about leveraging the performance of the CPU. AMD's driver is multithreaded. Nvidia's isn't. It's been known for a very long time that Nvidia hammers the shit out of one thread like a motherfucker. It's not a secret, we just know now that they have no idea how to undo everything they did to get to this point and that they probably need to add the hardware scheduler back on to their chips so that it can talk to 6+ core processors properly.

>>59746383
Mainly because it had a shitty command processor that didn't allow it to fully utilize all the shaders. Fury X was an experimental card with HBM shoved in to test its abilities. Not a good comparison.

>>59746424
Which video or article are you talking about specifically? Also, those benchmarks you're talking about were indicative of slowly increasing support over the years for multi-threading.

The difference in performance changed dramatically after he took Starcraft II out of the equation. It isn't fucking 2012 anymore, 2017 and onward is leading up to an era of multi-threading.

Single thread is getting less significant, and hopefully Nvidia knows this.

>>59746563
Adored was wrong
as he always is

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>>59746563
Are you pretending to be stupid? It's amd's driver which hammers the hell out of a single thread whereas Nvidia's is multithreaded.

>>59743267
KYS, tripfag

>>59746598
To add to this, this is why their dx11 performance is so much better.

>>59745573
It's a shitpost samefagging shill troll thread from the start.

>>59746621
>t. samefagging paid intel pranjeet

>>59746598
I don't expect you to watch the whole fucking video (good job if you do). This video explains in great technical detail on the differences between AMD and Nvidia's drivers.

Nvidia's hungry for that single-threaded performance. Why the fuck else would having a really high IPC + clock speed even matter then?

Don't be retarded. Unless you were being sarcastic, then I'm just autistic lol.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoZB-cnjc0

Me >>59746123

Alright I closed everything and I get 2200 now, so nevermind. The 50 I have off are probably due to them having 3600mhz RAM (I'm at 3200mhz) and/or some dumb Windows 10 shits running in the background. I guess I'm alright, phew.

>>59746650
This. As much as I hate to admit it, the tripfag was right all along.

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>>59743877
Enjoy your $1000 delided celeron housefire

>>59746654
>Everyone who hates me is the same person

>>59746683
Seriously, look: >>59743280

>>59746703
Turn your trip back on bud you aren't fooling anyone

>>59746711
I'm not the tripfag you retard but tripfaggot was right, this was all just a bait thread with OP samfagging hard as fuck

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>>59746655
Holy shit that is a stupidly misleading video. The mug choses specific screenshots of where Nvidia is utilizing more cpu for similar/lower fps but doesn't do the same for the 480.

And ofcourse he also happens to be best mates with the paid amd shill adored tv

>>59746703
>AMD
>AMD1
>AMD2
>AMD3
Literally was not trying to hide shit, did you seriously have to look at the poster count to figure it out?

>>59746715
You are the tripfag

>>59743531
Its time to stop posting.

>>59746720
>Literally was not trying to hide shit, did you seriously have to look at the poster count to figure it out?
wot...

>>59746731
put your trip back on you retarded faggot

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>>59746742

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>>59746718
Once again, Nvidia gpu using less cpu even at higher fps just like the 970 in this picture. Ofc the cpu usage would naturally go up if one card is 20 fps higher however.

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>>59746771
Same for this. Much higher fps = much higher cpu usage.

>>59746782
>>59746771
>>59746718
It sounds like you are grossly oversimplifying the AMD/Nvidia DX11/DX12 issue and how it relates to CPU overhead. AMD and Nvidia differ philosophically on how draw calls should be handled between CPU and GPU. It's no secret that AMD has a higher DX11 CPU overhead. AMD's head PR guy has all but come out and stated that DX11 is garbage for AMD hardware. I'm not the guy you were replying to but it's pretty obvious you didn't understand that video.

>>59746718
Did you even watch the video? Go back to 6:17 and rewatch that shit.

He explains that Nvidia was able to get around the problem by creating a very useful feature that is "a marvel of software engineering."

Nvidia's software skills are fucking incredible. But software could only get you so far compared to the "to the metal" nature of a hardware scheduler. The hardware is catching up and exceeding expectations.

- - -
Also video card history summary:

-Nvidia makes gpu with hardware scheduler called Fermi. It was a good idea actually.

-It was ridiculously hot gpu. People still laugh at Fermi to this day.

-Nvidia gets embarrassed and removes the hardware scheduler, appearing more power efficient.

-AMD wants to use hardware scheduler to attract certain markets. Takes title of [HOUSE FIRE GPU MAKER] from Nvidia. People still laugh at the R9 290X's temps to this day.

-VULKAN AND DX12 HAPPENED. AMD took the hit and it was worth it. Nvidia hates DX12 and wants to cling to DX11.

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And this explains why Nvidia uses "less" cpu than AMD.

Are you faggots serious
>Muh gaymen!
You don't see anything faster than 60 fps even with a better monitor with a rfr of 120, and if you got 120 fps it'd just look the same as 60 fps
so what the fuck is the big issue here
i dont get it.

>>59746980
>You don't see anything faster than 60 fps
Get the fuck out. Now.

>>59746983
He's not wrong though. If you're on a 60hz it's true.

>>59746983
>giving it (you)s
That's like trying to scare off pigeons by throwing bread crumbs at them.

>>59746983
: ^ )

>>59743216
>800MHz base/600MHz boost deficit out of the box
>slower RAM
>keeps pace in most games, stays close in the rest
>spanks it in threaded workloads
>$120 cheaper

I'm sorry why is this bad for AMD again?

>>59746946
We're reaching the point where clock speeds are barely able to go any higher without using water or LN2 cooling. And with process nodes continuing to get smaller, relying on high clock speeds and IPC alone is not going to be a good idea anymore.

Intel is having a very hard time getting to the smaller processes. They are literally making a refresh of a refresh since they are struggling to proceed. Yup, Kaby Lake is getting a refresh.

This is why Vulkan and DX12 are the better APIs. Because while we can't really go higher on the IPC and clock speeds, we can always add more cores.

I'm sure everyone would love a future where 16c32t Xeons and 32c64t Naples would be the most beastly gaming cpus. This isn't optimism, this is just the way the future is going to be. It just needs to hurry the fuck up.

>>59747118
b-b-but warhammer! it's slower in warhammer!(only on dx12 nvidia drivers, all parties involved not responsible)

>>59747118
actually it's amazing it can keep pace with 6700K with that memory at 3.6
6c look much better for gaming at least, well and value video editing builds, pretty sure it's due to bigger overall cache
want to see 1600x numbers
>inb4 5Ghz i7 comparisons incoming AGAIN

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>>59747190
Barely any pc gamers are actually confident enough to delid their processor. So the R5 1600 is going to be a beast since the fps gap is so small. It doesn't need to be delided to get really good fps and even comes with a free cooler.

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>>59743216
>M-MUH CORES!
My 5GHZ Celeron can do everything a Ryzen 1800X can do already so for sure their R5 aren't going to compete.

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>>59743412

kek.

>intel fags claiming 7700k is better than all of ryzen

>it gets beat by a much cheaper cpu

>intel fags now say the 1600 is a bit better.

thanks for admitting it nigger :) enjoy your 100c oven. let me know how those eggs turn out. dont overcook em.

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>>59746782
>117%