/pcbg/ - PC Building General Building a better OP edition.

There might be more reason to /just wait/ if these leaks in 3D mark DB are true.
So many leaks so far with AMD have been dead on, too.

>>59736753
RX580 custom stock OC cards could be almost 1070 performance. Which would make sense, if they are actually on a new process like LPP which was rumored.
But it could just be a manually OC'd one. Polaris can reach 1500mhz with good enough cooling, too.

RX500 series is due about a week after Ryzen 5, iirc. (because releasing them together would make too much sense)

Is this a decent build for a video editing/ music software computer?Anything I'm missing?

>>59736887
This. Decent benchmarks should be out in like a week. If you're planning on building now seriously just wait.

>>59736904
Yes, a computer.

>>59736904
Forgot link like a dumbass

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z7wdwV

Rate my seed/sandbox
>ASRock Pentium J4205 ITX
>16GB DDR3-1600L CAS 9 SODIMMs
>120GB ADATA Premier SP550
>3x 4TB Toshiba X300
>Startech PCIe x1 NIC
>Reebox shoebox
>300W 80+ Bronze Seasonic TFX PSU

>built my first pc four years ago for $700
>still have no reason to upgrade
feels good mang

Which mobo is better Asus Z270f or Msi z270 krait gaming to pair with i7 7700k?

>>59736904
>>59736927
Looks good to me. You may want to get a HDD too though, especially if you're going to be capturing video from your PC, working with raw footage or video over 1080p.

>>59736943
>i7 7700k
lol its shit

>>59736930
Buy an old server instead.

>>59736913
Im talking about waiting for RX500, not Ryzen 5.
RX500 appears it could be much, much better than just the initial 8% higher clocks leak.

It's pretty easy to infere how Ryzen 5 performance will be.
The 1500X will beat the 7600k in some games, lose in others. Should overall be better while multitasking much better.
1600X vs 7700k, well that's much iffier. The 7700k will beat it in most games, but the 1600X will have tons of utilization to spare for other stuff.

>>59736943
Fuck you're still asking this. Why don't you just pick which you like the most?
Or read reviews?
What features are different? Did you not look at all their features themselves? It shouldn't be too hard to decide which you like more assuming they both have sufficient VRMs and power delivery.

Get the Asus. Or get an ASRock like the Taichi.

>>59736943
Didn't you ask this a little while ago? Didn't you get told to avoid MSI?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WjjzsJ
Would this be a decent build? I really need help, I've tried looking everywhere, but I feel that asking /g/ would help me best. It's for gaming, 1440p 144Hz. AAA titles like Minesweeper, Battlefield 1, RS6, and Ashes of Singularity.

>>59737003
Sorry for my lack of reading comprehension. Same thing though, for the amount of time we're talking about you'd have to be stupidly impatient not to wait.

>>59736998
Why though? It only costs about $200 for all the new parts and the entire system only consumes about 75W at most.

>>59736927
improved

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qHR7gL

>>59736943
Avoid the 7700k

>>59737027
Liquid cooling is for faggots but the build's OK.

>>59737062
Brother, thank you for doing that. I've been so clogged up with shit that's been going on in my personal life that it's hard for me to learn about what parts are good and what are shit. So I appreciate that. Is there anything else I need in order to build a functioning PC? I just realized I'll need a operating system. What about thermal paste or is that for 1337 builds only?

>>59737046
Not sure where you're getting 3x 4TB, 16GB of RAM and a Seasonic for like $100 but if you can then go for it.

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Canuk here.

I want to add another rx 400 serie gpu for a crossfire setup. My card atm is the sapphire nitro+ 470 4g. What should I do?

Buy another sapphire 470 nitro + 4g or buy a xfx 470 triple x 4g( and save some bucks)
If I grab the xfx will it run smootly with my nitro +?

>>59737077
7700k is fine if someone is sure it best fits their use case and shit.

People spending that kind of money probably don't care that, if in a year or two, the majority of games favor at least 6 cores and they need to spend another $400-$500 replacing their CPU and motherboard again.

You can't predict the future, anyway, except when it was becoming obvious as shit in 2015 that 4c/4t was becoming no longer good enough.

>>59737062
The 7700k is not that bad if you want that performance really.

>>59737091
thermal paste would be nice, look into arctic sliver 5

you can just torrent wangblows or just buy it if you don't want to """""""""""steal"""""""""""" it

>>59737119
get another of the same card or same clocked one.
If they are different speeds, the faster one downclocks, doesn't it? Or did they change that?

When is RX 5xx series supposed to come out?

>>59737119
>>59737138
Not wrong but factory clock doesn't mean that much with video cards. Crossfire is shit anyway, you'd honestly be much better off trying to sell the 470 and buying something better.

>>59737154
>>59736887
>about a week after Ryzen 5, iirc

>>59737124
>7700k is fine if someone is sure it best fits their use case and shit.

english isnt your first language isnt it

>>59737126
>buying a premium quad core in 2017
no, the intel extereme and ryzen have better frame times and minimums and no stutter

Considering a 8 core can be had for like $300, it makes the 7700k useless

>>59736986
>>59737077
Why?

>>59737154
2 weeks maybe

I stuck my new Ryzen build inside my old case while I wait for the new one, and all my stress tests have been failing because the overclocked 1700 reaches 75C and kills itself. Is this a normal problem with subpar cases (plus the shitty chinkbrand rear fan I installed when the original failed) or do I have a deeper problem going on? I'd like to know before the new case comes in.

>>59737154
2 - 3 weeks I think.

>>59737166
Yeah, selling the RX470 and buying an R9 Fury for $240 makes way more sense.

>>59737154
a week or so

>>59737169
see>>59737168

>>59737109
>Not sure where you're getting 3x 4TB, 16GB of RAM and a Seasonic
Recycled from other builds, duh I'm only buying the motherboard, the RAM, the second NIC, and the SSD

>>59737174
>no clocks
>no voltage
how the fuck is anyone supposed to help you with so little information given?

>>59737168
Let the i7 retards waste their cash anon, for comedy's sake.

>>59737133
And this doesn't need a cooling system? And last question, I swear: how am I supposed to torrent windows if I don't have an operating system in the first place that allows me to browse the internet?

>>59737166
>>59737186
my problem is that I need the extra ports on the extra card for using 5+ displays. And I might end up upgrading to vega this summer.

>>59737202
Right, sorry. 3.8GHz at 1.38v or so. Motherboard is a AB350 Gaming 3 and I put the stupid MSI CPU cooler on it because it was AM4 compatible out of the box and on Amazon.

>>59737210
with whatever the fuck you are using right now and no, the cpu comes with a heatsink, its just the paste it comes with is shit

Razer deathadder chroma vs g502 vs g402. Which one should I get?

>5+ displays
>crossfire 470

???

>>59737124
Eh if you consider a lot of the big AAA games took 3-4 years to make, even if some studios just started making games to utilize more cores / multicore threading you'd be fine for a while.
Developers aim for the biggest market, and it's not going to be 8core users for at least a few years.

>>59737257
G402 of those options. Don't even consider Razer it doesn't matter what you've read, it's not good.

>>59737254
>tfw I'm using a phone

That's why I ask :/

>>59737300
just buy the shit then its base price is like $100 and you can find it even cheaper then that if you dont want to be a freetard that is

>>59737235
Are you sure the MSI cooler is actually better? The stock one is pretty good.
You use artic silver, right?

You may need to keep under 1.35 or 1.325volts. That's what the stock cooler tends to be good for if you use artic silver.
If you want 1.38v you probably simply need a cooler in the $50 range. Don't go over 1.4v.

>>59737271
Most game engines the past few years have been made to scale to n threads, rather than some fixed number.

It doesn't work in your head how you think multithreading works where you put one system like sound on one thread, input on another, blah blah.
You have things like physics that can scale across all threads, or n-1, or n-2, and shit like that. You have transforms that you can spread out over any number of threads.

There's not this fucking fixed "EIGHT EXACT THREADS!" shit people have in their head.
A lot of games from the past 3 years were built with that thinking in mind, and the newer engines that have been in development already are refinements there to work even better like in the next Total War game.

So no, it's coming much sooner than you think as many of these engines have been in development for 1-2 years already. But there will always be shittily programmed games too like Far Cry Primal and 99% of indie games.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233852
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144018

Are these two compatible with each other? I'm not good at PC building.

>>59737289
all of those are gaymor shit, the mionix naos 7000 is better

>>59737336
yes

>>59737336
Compatible but that motherboard is shit.
Consider this memory instead too: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb

>>59737289
Isn't the g502 superior?

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>>59737328
Alright. Im making the plunge. I really hope this is the best bang for my buck when it comes to editing video and making music. Fingers crossed. >>59737062

>>59737331
>If you want 1.38v you probably simply need a cooler in the $50 range.
This piece of shit IS $50.
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Cooler-Silver-Core-Frozr/dp/B01MFB358A/
If the temperatures don't get better with the new case then Amazon is getting this shit sent back.

On the voltages, I don't particularly want to target anything specific. Frankly, I don't really know what I'm doing. I put it down to 1.298v and it still hits 75C and shuts down. The upside is that WHEA never logs any errors up until that point, so it seems like my only problem is temperatures. I honestly don't want to crank the voltage up into space for 3.9/4.0GHz. I thought 3.8 would be a sweet spot.

>>59737363
Superior in looking like a retarded toy and not much else.

>>59737407
Oh I thought it had a better sensor etc.

>>59737402
what case? also try putting on the thermal paste again

>>59737423
Yeah, I actually think I might have fucked the thermal paste up. It's worth a shot. The temporary case is an old Lian Li PC-K58.

>>59737358
>but that motherboard is shit.

How so? It seems pretty good for a B350 motherboard.

>>59737452
The MSI X370 is shit but afaik that tomahawk is fine.

>>59737422
It does have a higher DPI but at that level i'd be surprised at people that could make that a practical difference. It's also quite a lot smaller. I'm mostly just fucking about because I think the g502 looks like shit.

>>59737442
It could be the case also just by looking at it, if you need a new case, i would look into the thermaltake core x series, most of those cases have very good airflow

>>59737465
I see. Thank you

>>59737257
What are you playing and what are you looking for?

I'm an FPSfag and I'm really happy with my G402. Doesn't do ridiculous DPI settings and might be lacking buttons depending on what you plan to use it for, but it tracks brilliantly even for really quick snaps of the mouse. Comfy as fuck too. I've had far more expensive mice I've liked less.

>>59737468
I bought a Phanteks P400S, no window. The reviews range from positive to glowing, but I noticed that most reviewers said that it's 1-3 degrees warmer than the Fractal Design Define C I was also looking at. It didn't bother me before, but it does now. I also have two NZXT fans from the old build that I can't find out where to connect on the new motherboard. The only two fan connectors left say they're for water cooling in the manual, but I don't know if they'll work exactly the same for a regular case fan. Hopefully just getting a splitter and sticking them on will work later.

Thanks for the help.

>>59737531
Can't say much about the P400S, but I own the Define C and really can't imagine you being disappointed by it if you were to choose that. Very quiet, runs as cool as any other case I've owned, and really nice to build in - great cable management and it feels like they really put some thought in to the design.

>>59737521
Tbh this would be my first build if God wills it and I've spent most of my time using a controller and a very cheap Chinese mouse so I don't know. I'm looking to play stuff like Arma 3, Gmod, Rust and CS GO etc. I'm not a competitive player and only play for fun

My gaming PC has an i5-4690 (non-k), GTX 960, and 16gb ram. The single best upgrade would be the GPU, correct? I'm tempted to get an i7 but I need someone to tell me that would be retarded.

>>59737599
Then I'd echo the recommendations for the 402. Great mouse, great price. You're looking at some serious diminsihing returns going for a more expensive choice.

>>59737633
>I'm tempted to get an i7 but I need someone to tell me that would be retarded.
That would be retarded. You'd be frankly insane to buy any intel parts in the next week or two unless you need something RIGHT NOW.

Got a decent-ish setup there already. Sit tight and see how things shake out.

>>59737648
Okay. Thank you

>>59737633
Unless you really need to upgrade for a certain game or application, the "weak link" is definitely the video card but even then it's not bad. A 1070 would be a significant upgrade or even a 480.

Looking for a PC for Minecraft and video editing for my youtube channel. How did I do?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TxPZPs

Seems a bit expensive but I know power doesn't come cheap.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KbZNTH

Help me out, /pcbg/.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ Anything I can improve upon without increasing the price too much. Do I really need an i-7? I'm going to be mainly be using it for gaming on 1080p.

>>59738028
Well done anon, this is actually pretty good. Why 16GB of RAM though? Get 8GB and use the money to get a better monitor. If somehow you find yourself utilizing more than 8GB you can always add more for the same money.
Also consider a Seasonic PSU at the same price. Consistent brand quality beats certification.

Coworker is wanting to build his first gaming pc. I'm trying to make it as cheap as possible while still being upgradable if he so chooses. Just need something that won't look like shit and get 60fps at 1080. He's also not OK with buying used.

Thanks yo.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ftNdwV

>>59738028
If you're going with Ryzen you're going to want faster RAM. You can probably find something like a 3200mhz rated kit for a very similar price.

Double check what RAM your board is confirmed to support as it's still a bit of a minefield.

>>59738060
Try again.

>>59737946
Gonna have to do better than that to bring in the (You)s mate.

>>59738060
nice url friendo

>>59737946
That's not how you troll /pcbg/. This is how you troll /pcbg/:
>>59738169

>>59738170
Only Samsung b-die can hit 3200mhz, and those are mostly found in 200 dollar kits.

Should I go with a Noctua U14S or D15 for an overclocked 1700? The problem is I would have to wait for Noctua to ship the bracket for the D15 but the U14s bracket is on amazon with prime

>>59738169
Read the OP. i3 is dogshit, get a G4560 or wait for Ryzen 5 and spend more.

Seriously consider finding the extra money for a 480 too, 470 just isn't worthwhile and he will lose money. Pirate Windows or buy it from a key site if you have to.

>>59738060
>>59738195
>>59738213
sorry for being retarded https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MsBkyf

>>59738028
>>59738170
>>59738257
I don't think that's true.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb

I'm currently debating whether this deal is worth it or not:

Biostar Hi-Fi B85N 3D (these fucking names, I swear to god)
i7-4790T
4Gb 1333Mhz DDR3

all for 270€.

My initial plan was to buy an MSI B250I Pro + G4560 + 8Gb 3000Mhz DDR4 which would cost me about 230€.

Now here's the thing, I'll be pairing it with a 1050 Ti and playing non-AAA titles so the CPU performance is pretty much irrelevant because the GPU will generally be the bottleneck, even with a G4560. Buuut, the i7-4790T is much better than the G4560...

Pros:
- i7 is better
- i7 is slightly more power efficient

Cons:
- Can't use NVME SSDs on that mobo
- It's only 4Gb of RAM
- slow DDR3 RAM, not future-proof
- deal is more expensive

any help?

>>59738262
I couldn't find the 480 with the right price on partpicker. 480 is currently $190 on amazon which is what I would actually use. I guess I'll have to pirate windows to make this work.

>>59738289
All good but is that build bait? i7 is retarded, especially for 1080, shit memory, shit PSU and I hope you realize that's an M.2 SSD.

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>>59736810
Any opinions? What could I comfortably downgrade to save on price without sacrificing performance.

>>59738314
You are a cuck if you buy used.

>>59738341
I have no experience to be completely honest. I know someone who doesn't need the SSD and was willing to sell it to me for the price of the 850 EVO.

>>59738347
Unless that's for hardcore video rendering or similar, 32GB of RAM is retarded. Dank aside from that.

>>59738364
thanks for your opinion, do you want to come over and fuck my wife?

>>59738376
Please look up what M2 and SATA are before you do so, and wait for Ryzen 5 instead of the i7. The rest isn't the worst I guess.

>>59738403
Maybe I can come over and pay someone else to do it while we both watch.

>>59738423
what's wrong with his choosing that SSD? It's faster, the board supports it and it means less cable clutter

>>59738492
Never said there was anything wrong with it, I just assumed from his build he didn't realize what he was getting.

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Hey /pcbg/, I just got a new motherboard and am trying to get the front panel audio to work. The chassis is ancient. Any idea where to put what?

>>59738597
It's actually got 9 individual cables and connectors? Pic?

>>59738169
>>59738316

Updated: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6bbZ8

>>59738675
Go to Kinguin for the Windows key, less than half price even with buyer protection. Yes it's safe. Use saved money to get the 8GB 480. It's pretty good apart from that.

>>59738744
Thanks yo.

It should get a solid 60fps at 1080p right?

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post a better looking case than this!

who here actually owns a GTX 1080 ti?

Can someone fill me in on Ryzen and RAM?

I understand that memory frequency is a good bit more important there than on intel? If I'm having to drop twice as much money on memory to get halfway decent performance out of it an i7 suddenly doesn't look like such a terrible deal.

>>59738159
>tfw RAM just shipped
Did I fuck up? Will look at Seasonic though.
>>59738170
What happens if my RAM isn't compatible with my mobo?

>>59738757
Yeah you'll be able to run Minecraft on Super Ultra and everything.

Should max anything "normal" at 1080/60 yes.

>>59738809
It's compatible, it's just shit compared to similarly priced options and you bought into the 16GB meme. Don't worry anon it's all gravy.

>>59738384
Standard video editing and if I'm doing gaming too should I up the ram?

>>59738803
Stick with Intel. Right now buying Ryzen is paying to be a beta tester.

Inb4 pajeets.

>>59738873
That's way overkill for gaming as far as RAM goes. You could maybe utilize it rendering video, especially 4K or RAW stuff, but make sure your editing software is properly configured to use it (multi-core rendering settings in After Effects).

>>59738803
It's not really twice as much though is it. 1151 uses DDR4 too and you get 16GB 3200 kits for $120.

>>59738928
What kind of shekels you making anon? Worthwhile?

>>59738841
What do you mean by "its shit"? How big of a performance difference will I be seeing?

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How much do you trust EVGA's warranty?

I'm considering a refurbished GPU from their site and it has a 1 year warranty. Just not sure about buying refurbished GPUs.

Should I go with Gigabyte 1080 OC or Inno3d ichill 1080 x4? The ichill has better clocks. Does it really matter?

>>59739022
Good luck getting a cheap 3200 kit to hit that speed m80.

>>59739032
I mean you bought DDR4-2400 memory when you could have got DDR4-3200 for slightly more. For general gaming it probably won't affect you much. There are plenty of gaming benchmarks showing the difference, obviously not on Ryzen 5.

>>59739120
EVGA actually has excellent warranty support

Their products are chinkshit tho

>>59739120
I'm still using a refurbished 7970 from early Dogecoin days and I still wouldn't suggest buying refurbished.

>>59739186
I mean you are right, it's not as high frequency, but if its just a couple frames I don't really mind that much. I can always upgrade on my next paycheck.

>>59739022
>It's not really twice as much though is it. 1151 uses DDR4 too and you get 16GB 3200 kits for $120.
Show me a Samsung B-die kit for anything even close to that price and I'll buy it right now.

>>59739297
Explain why that's necessary or asked for in regards to Ryzen vs i7 and I won't think you're a retard.

>>59739426
If you don't know why that matters you don't know nearly enough to be out here shilling for team pajeet.

I'm not being paid to educate you. I'm being paid to sell Intel(TM) i7 CPUs, for the ultimate in gaming and productivity performance.

>>59738967
I mean it's just for my brothers YouTube channel and hell never use 4k anytime soon so your saying downgrading the ram wouldn't kill my gaming that much to save alittle?

>>59739228
Any reason why not?

>>59739152
Anyone?

>>59739426
I don't quite understand what you're asking but all the x370 motherboard manufacturers are focusing their efforts on Samsung B-die memory apparently, as those are the only ones that are gaining frequency from BIOS updates so far.

What kind of pcshould I buy for Adobe Premiere with around a $800 budget?

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Yeh boi, party time

>>59739923
You really overpaid for that mobo.

>>59740029
It's beautiful tho

What else should I do with my build?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kwTQNN

Should I be going for an all in one? I've got it running at 4.3Ghz but I feel like if I want to push it higher I should get something more reliable than a cm 212. Also vega when?

>>59740073
It's unredeemable gaymur shit tho.

>>59739923
>212
useless meme cooler, ugly af also

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>>59740120
I could try to use my current thermaltake? Would that be less meme?

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Not trying to meme.
Just playing around with logical increments and tips from this thread.
How fucked am I?
Notes: have a case and monitor already etc.

>>59740120
What's wrong with it?

>>59739923
>Shitty gaymur board
>Memer 212
>i5 in 2017
>2133mhz RAM
kys desu senpai

What's a decent and reasonably priced cooler for AM4? Looking for something to slap on a 1600X once launch day rolls around.

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Just got my new graphics card (GTX 1080 Strix). It was purchased second hand from ebay. It arrived today and it appears to have part of the pins heavily damaged. There is no video output to the card although it is still lighting up. It is also not appearing in Device Manager or UEFI. Tried installing drivers, still nothing. What do you guys think? Send it back for a refund or contact Asus and see if it can be repaired?

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>>59738653
Yep. There you go.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yvHCvV
How does this look for a mild gaming build?
I have an old but good working 128gb 840 evo Samsung ssd I'd carry over too.

Also - will I be able to boot to bios to update it for the 4560 using an i3 6300? My work computer uses one and I could steal it to get the bios updated.

Would Just Be powering a 27" 1080p 60hz monitor. I mainly just play planetside 2. My laptop struggles with it at minimum settings now for Going on 3 years and someone on ps2 Reddit reviewed the 4560 and it prompted me to finally do a new build. Otherwise I usually Just play misc indie games.

I know I could get an amd card for cheaper but I've had bad experiences with both amd cpus and gpus so I want to stay away from them

>>59740229
H60i should be a cheap solution. I had one already before my new 1700x build and it was perfectly compatible. Even being smaller it keeps my 1700x well cooled oc'd to 3.9ghz

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>>59740430
Forgot pic

>>59740178
Looks like a meme, but I'll bite:
You are wasting your money with that mobo, get a cheap B250M
Get a cheaper ram at 2133/2400 MHz
Get the RX470 from a better manufacturer, ASUS is a joke (MSI, Sapphire, Gigabyte). Get the 4gb version, you wont game 4k with a pentium
450W PSU is more than enough

OR

do it properly and get a i7-7700 and a GTX 1070 instead, you seem to have the budget anyway

>>59740468
The whole "meme" meme makes this place pretty cancerous, but I appreciate your reply.
I got a sapphire GPU from my last build and it was pretty awful two years down. Didn't know that Asus was a cut of the same meat.
I amped up the PSU because of video editing or can I get away with a 450w for some mid to high end video editing?

>>59736939
Same, 5 years ago, "top of the line" machine.
I think it'll make it until the 7nm GPUs come out (¿late 2018?), then it will be time to put fresh guts into the case.
I'm just here to watch & learn.

>>59740560
>mid to high end video editing?
get a ryzen

Bought a 3000 mhz 16gb RAM for a i7-7700k
Was this a mistake?
Should i have rather bought a 3200 mhz 16gb ram?

>>59740671
Doesn't matter nearly as much on intel as it does for Ryzen. You're fine. Don't worry about it.

>>59740692
Thank you! This is a relief.

>>59740373
I only count 8.

>>59740692
Curious, why does it matter so much for Ryzen and what sort of effects will having lower frequency RAM have on the PC?

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>>59740198

>>59736810
>tfw shitty heroes of the storm freezes from time to time on my pc

ryzen 5 can't come soon enough.

I live in canada and I am scared of shipping cost. I am looking to build a gaming-oriented computer with a budget of 1000$. Would it be cheaper to buy it pre-made?

>>59740375
Rx 470 > gtx 1050 ti

>>59740987
>didn't read bottom that I'm not interested in AMD products after a few bad experiences

>>59741018
I don't care and that's why I posted. You would have to be retarded to buy an a card that performs like the 1050 ti.

Just woke up. How many days till ryzen?

Is Corsair VS psu any good?

>Want a good rig that will be competitive for 4-5 years
>Will use for running code, playing 4K movies
>Won't use for gaming
>Future-proofing rather than rolling upgrades
>Not overclocking anything
>Budget: $2-3k

Below is what I've narrowed it down to so far.

7700k
1080ti
Samsung SSD 960 PRO 512GB
G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 4000 (4 x 8GB)
Windows 7 Ultimate

Other stuff:
motherboard, case, cooling, power supply, 4k display - will choose later

Any mistakes so far?
inb4 Ryzen 1800, do I really need 8 cores?

>>59741153
>7700k
>competitive for 4-5 years
>competitive now
Dead CPU in a dying socket.

>>59741153
>paying that much for a graphics card to watch movies and not play games

Why?

>>59741072
Too fucking many. Got £1k burning a hole in my pocket but daren't pull the trigger on a new build until we know way more about the R5s.

>>59741153
>Future-proof
>4c/8t
I don't think you know what that means, senpai.

Also:
>1080ti for watching movies
topkek

>>59741201
7700k is near the top of the banchmark charts though? What else would you recommend?
>>59741217
I think I'll be using CUDA in my research later, and I might eventually use VR

>>59741153
>Won't use for gaming
>7700k
bad idea, get a ryzen

>Won't use for gaming
>1080ti
Fuckin why? Unless you have some heavily specialize use for i, get a 1050ti.

or maybe you're trolling?

>>59741060
>I don't care
Life story of AMDrones lollol

>>59741256
I thought "moar cores1!!1" was a meme that died in 2015

Looking to spend around $1,200 AUD, give or take.

Needs to be:
>best price to performance
>small form factor
>quiet. Absolutely silent. Not a word
>gaming and running a couple VMs

What kind of case, memory and motherboard should I get if I'm looking into ryzen? I'm looking for a board with a small factor and a gigabit Nic

Also is the 480 the one to get? It's like 350 bucks

>>59741263
parallel programming in cuda and possibly getting into VR later

>>59741305
Leaf? 480 8gb is like 200 to 250 in land of free.

>>59741305
>quiet, high-performance, sensibly priced.
Pick two.

>>59741305
>>59741328
Shit didn't see you said AUD. Anyway don't know the price down there. Get cheaper one between 480 and 1060.

>>59741338
Quiet
Budgeted

Honestly, I can't justify spending over 1,500 on a pc

>>59741261
>7700k is near the top of the banchmark charts though? What else would you recommend?
Only in games and a few singlethreaded programs.
broadwell-e or ryzen

>>59741316
even weaker GPUs have a good amount of power in cuda, VR is gaming in my book.

If you dont know that you're even gonna game it makes more sense to get a mid-tier gpu now and get a more powerful one for less once you want to.

>>59741305
Not aware of any ITX boards around for Ryzen, and as someone who's been looking to put together a mATX build: Those boards are currently a shitshow. Would love for someone to come along and prove me wrong.

I've abandoned my hopes of building a qtpi PC and resigned myself to full ATX.

>>59741265
youre the faggot who doesn't want a 1060 or a 1070. There is no reason to try and justify a 1050 ti purchase

>>59741419
I have a 1070 you flaming cuck. I'm not the pleb asking for build advice. I'm just someone who isn't fucking retarded and can understand someone wanting to avoid amd trash and not wanting to pay an extra $100 for the jump from a 1050ti to a 1060.

>>59741380
I guess it's too soon to brainstorm just yet.

I'm itching to upgrade my pc.

>>59741470
>Don't want to buy AMD trash
>will buy Nvidia trash instead

????

Are Korean monitors still the ones to buy?

>>59741472
Have you considered building a normal sized PC and only looking at it through a backward pair of binoculars?

>>59741530
Yeah absolutely, but if they come out with a itx board, I'm jumping on that first

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9smXpb

Looking to build a couch gaming rig that can run 100fps @ 1440p and act as a home computer for day-to-day stuff.

>>59741499
What does amd have that truly directly competes with the 1070/1080ti?

Ohhhh that's right. Never change AyyyMDrones

>>59741734

Enjoy running Skyrim at 300fps.

I'm on that new shit. Vulkan and DX12.

>>59741734
Vulkan.

$1000 and live in United States
I mainly do a lot of editing and gaming.
Would like for the price to go down but don't know what I can cheap out on. Most preferably ryzen builds paired with an nvidia gpus. If not then intel CPU with nvidia

>>59741734
>being a brandwhore

mcfucking kill yourself underage

Ok so I'm making the Ryzen build and I know that higher mhz ram works the best with it, but my questions are: How much of a difference would 3200mhz over 3000mhz make? I'm kinda on a budget so I would rather save as much as possible. And what brand of ram should I look for if it matters? So in short the best and the cheapest ram for ryzen.

>>59741876
also forgot, I have zero idea about ram timings so if that matter what timings should I look for?

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>>59741929

timings won't really matter in the grand scheme of things. you're paying more money for a marginal increase of performance.

Also, timings are dependent on motherboard. Some can only handle 2400, some can handle 3200.

>>59741876
Don't take my word for it, but: From the benchmarks I've seen there seem to be rapidly diminishing returns around 3000mhz (which will run at 2993). If I was looking to save some shekels that would be the sweet spot I tried to hit. Better frequency will outweigh looser timings.

As for what kit with what board? Good luck is all I'm saying...

>>59741953

FWIW, that Passmark was done with 16gb of DDR4-2133.

I just noticed that the RAM I was thinking of ordering does not show up on my motherboard's compatibility list. Is this a problem?

It's this stick:
http://gskill.com/en/product/f4-3000c16s-8gisb

on this mobo:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B250I-GAMING-PRO-AC.html#support-mem

>>59741953
>Also, timings are dependent on motherboard. Some can only handle 2400, some can handle 3200.
Good to know, so can I check somewhere if motherboard supports 3200. I was mainly looking at b350 since I saw it the most recommended.
>>59741956
Thanks for answer I'll stick with 3000 then, also I'm just upgrading cpu/motherboard(b350?)/ram everything else I'll keep my old stuff.

>>59742052

pcpartpicker will be able to tell you the available RAM timings per motherboard.

I ordered a 620W seasonic powersupply last week.
Think it'll be enough to power the RX 580 and Ryzen 5 or should I return it now?

Will the 480 still be relevant once ryzen 5 comes out?

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>>59742060
Ok so I guess this means it supports both 3000 and 3200mhz right? Sorry if I ask dumb questions I really have 0 idea about ram, never did any research always just bought more if needed.

>>59742089
>>59742166
Yes and yes.

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Anyone recognize the one on the bottom? Also, are these quality cards?

>>59742168

It means that is the max timing that it can draw out of the RAM.

In the real world though, you might buy 3200mhz and get a crap stick of RAM and it only will overclock to 2666mhz (all DDR4 RAM will default to 2133mhz until you go into the BIOS and overclock it, which can be a pain)

So you buy your 3200mhz sticks of RAM, install them, then go into the BIOS and overclock it from 2133mhz to 3200mhz and then hope it works.

>>59742218
>are these quality cards
In 2006 maybe

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Can someone please recommend a monitor that's 120/144 hz for optimal gaming without spending too much?

I also noticed people talking about freesync gsync, etc what should I be looking for? IPS and freesync?

I have a GTX 1070 and i7 7600k. Just learned that a 60hz monitor would make these basically pointless

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Can I get some recommendations for a nice ATX case? Currently have a picrelated Lian-Li PC-7B that's served me well for almost a decade. I adore it but the lack of USB 3 on the front panel and modern cable management means it's probably time for it to go when I build my new rig.

Been looking at Lian-Li's current stuff and it feels like while the look and build quality is still incredible they've been left behind in terms of the internals and all the quality of life stuff we expect in cases these days.

So... What are my options? Looking for something understated - no windows, no gaymur shit, no bling. Don't need an optical drive. I've been looking at the Define R5 and the Define C. Like the look, love the clever internals, but the snob in me balks at all of that plastic. Help me, /g/! What are my options? Budget is very flexible if the right case comes along.

>>59742379
Freesync only works with AMD cards. G sync only works with NVIDIA. Do not buy the wrong one, it won't work and will fuck your pc up

im trying to get cheap peripherals. decided on a brown board for $29.99 but mouse got me wondering - i can get a corsair harpoon rgb for $29 how good/bad is it for the price?
any other suggestions? all i care is that the keyboard has black/brown switches and the mouse will not break the second i plug it in

>>59742647
>will fuck your pc up
It's just a monitor, it won't fuck anything up in any way. Freesync simply doesn't work on NVIDIA cards and GSync simply doesn't work on AMD cards, that's it.

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getting ready for Ryzen.

Rate

>>59743011
Get a 1060

>>59742221
How is that even legal and not false advertising? I mean if they sell it as 3200mhz and it's actually not 3200 they're literally lying.

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>>59739923
yeh bois it all worked

These fans are cheap, but are piss yellow LED.
Is there a way to turn off the LED?

>>59744284
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0054YV92K/

i'm thinking about building a PC for streaming SC2 and maybe Heroes at 1080p/60fps how does my build look
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TRc9Ps

>>59744321
>AM3+
>The year of our Savior Ryzen

Come on, wait it out. You'll be happy if you do.

>>59744321
>a week before Ryzen 5 drops

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Need new shit to pair with my 970 Turbo

Heres what I'm thinking

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake CLP0556-B 39.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Thermal Compound: Innovation Cooling Diamond "7 Carat" 1.5g Thermal Paste ($7.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B150M BAZOOKA PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $402.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-21 21:25 EDT-0400

Heres the link if you want it:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tDFvhq

>>59744451
Trash CPU Cooler, get a Cooler Master 212 Evo

Also you need a Z170/270 Board to Overclock the 7600K, that Board may not support Kaby Lake out of the box (because 100 series chipset). otherwise if you're not gonna OC get the 7600 and a B250.

>>59744340
ok thanks bros was planning on waiting anyway to wait until tax return season is over

>failure configuring windows updates

Fucking nigger OS, literally a fresh install

>>59737946
pretty good build m8, but you don't really need a cpu that beefy for minecraft and youtube.
Put some of that cpu money toward better graphics

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redpill me on how terrible this is
XFX because no Gigabyte/MSI/EVGA 8GB models in my shitty country

>>59744321
Excellent bait, senpai. Here's your (You).

what is the cheapest motherboard for ryzen 5?

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what's a good 24 inch monitor?

>>59744953
Pajeet-tek B350M-Designation

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>>59744887
>21.5" monitor

24" is the sweet spot for 1920x1080

Need to replace my old gfx card (670GTX) as its stopped working.

Looking at getting a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 8GB.
My system specs are pretty old but are i5 2500 @3.330Ghz and 8GB RAM.

The other cheaper option is a ASUS ROG Strix Radeon RX 480 8GB.

Im pretty hardware illiterate, so I was wondering if the 1070 is the right choice.
Im not a massive PC gamer, so I dont really need a lot of horsepower but would like a card that can last several years.
Money is pretty tight as well.

Any help would be great, thanks.

>>59745141
>a card that can last several years.
>Money is pretty tight as well.
Get a card that will meet your needs now, and upgrade in the future. 'Future proofing' is a mug's game, especially when it's not raining shekels. Assuming you're wanting 1080p performance then a RX480 or the 6GB gtx1060 would both be excellent choices, and they're close enough in performance that whichever is cheaper should be the go-to choice.

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So, im about to start building my PC, anything i should have in mind while doing it?

>Haswell in 2017
Everything had a 30% off in Amazon Mexico except RAM.

I have to start building it first over the motherboard box before putting it inside the case?

>>59742052
Just try and get CL15 3000.
If it's CL16 3000, you'll see a bigger difference between that and CL16 3200.

But the 3000 is going to run at 2933, or might drop all the way down to 2666 until BIOS improves it.

>>59743375
>How is that even legal and not false advertising? I mean if they sell it as 3200mhz and it's actually not 3200 they're literally lying.
Because they are advertising it to run
>at 3200 on intel
They never bothered advertising for Vishera and shit. AMD wasn't competitive for a while.
A long time ago, 10-15 years ago, they did advertise what it will run for with AMD.
But Ryzen just came out, so yeah.
There should be a "Ryzen Memory" tab on Newegg soon. Updates are rolling out this week to better solidify 3200mhz memory support for all the motherboards.

>>59742246
not even in 2006.

>>59742568
Lian Li has nice looking cases, but often not good dust filters, and expensive.
I like the Corsair Carbide series.
Be Quiet makes some nice cases. A bit of extra bulk, though that's to account for the sound insulation.

>>59743011
>meme cooler
Just get a good $50 air cooler. This is for a 1600X or higher OC 1500X I take it?
It also doesn't say it supports AM4?
>$359 RX480
This are aud prices right? Even then idk.. maybe you should just get a 4GB RX470 can't you get those for like $250 aud? I don't think 50% more is worth the 10% higher clock and more VRAM. It's easier to just turn texture quality down from 4k textures to a normal res.
I'd almost recommend 1060 since I think they're the same price in AUD, but we've seen ryzen+nvidia working shit until nvidia fixes their drivers.
>B250 Bazooka
I'd recommend one of the ASRock boards. People seem to be having great results with them.
But if you've heard good things about the Bazooka, and memory actually working at 2933 or 3200 speeds, then go for it.

>>59744321
>>59744647
Jesus. I seriously thought you were trolling

>8350 in SC2 and other RTS
When most RTS are highly single threaded? Total warhammer and ashes are the exception, and they still run pretty shit on that CPU.

>212evo
a cooler that can't properly cool than 8350 either

>1050Ti
When you could get a 40-50% better RX470 for cheaper.

>>59744595
>calling cooler trash
>suggesting a 212evo
huh?
You surely mean a scythe ninja 4 or cryorig h4.

>>59744451
You build is super bad.
Locked motherboard and unlocked CPU. And a skylake board for a kabylake cpu.
I think you mean to get a locked 7700 and B250. Or just get Ryzen.

You'd also be best off selling your 970 while you can still scam people into thinking it's not shit and getting a 1060 or RX480.

>>59745003
>a good 24 inch monitor

Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe

>>59744887
Your build looks fine but..

-You could get a Seasonic gold rated for like $5 more.
Well worth it in the long run.

-Buying the most expensive RX480
Yes the XFX GTR is the best, but considering you can get one 90-95% as good for $175-$200 instead of $260, it's just not worth it.

Why don't you put that money into getting a good SSD instead?

You could also probably watch flash sales and find memory for cheaper if 2666 is all you're looking for.

Decent build, though.

>>59744953
There is an MSI one with only 3 phase VRMs for $80 iirc.
Imo it should be like a $65 board. It's pretty shit. There are much better ones for $85-$95

>>59745141
The 1070 is really bad price/performance now.
The RX480 will play almost every game maxed at 60fps minimum, usually, for 1080p. Unless you have a 144hz monitor, a 1070 is going to pretty pointless.
Since you can find the RX480 8GB for $175-$200 for most of the time, it's the better buy for 1080p 60fps.

If you were to buy a "future-proofing" card, Vega will almost surely be the better option since it just doesn't crap out when you don't have enough VRAM.

>>59745323
>i5-4460
Gross.

>>59745514
It was $90, motherboard was $70, and amazon mexico doesnt have lots of options.

Im upgrading from a athlon x2 250 anyway.

ryzen 1600 seems like it will do well

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/first-full-review-of-amd-ryzen-5-1600.html

>>59744451

Try this. Far better and more robust —
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DzPPLD

Also, the thermal paste that comes with the cooler is more than good enough. No need for third-party paste.

>>59744451
>>59745582

By the way, I added a flat cpu cooler because you did, and because I assumed that you purposefully chose a flat cooler because your case cannot accommodate a tall cooler.

If you can fit it in your case, I recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 —
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

>>59745514
i should have specified im in bumfuck nowhere. a lot of your suggestions get really fucked by how the prices work here
>Seasonic gold rated for like $5 more
the one in my build is 150, while the gold rated ones start at 250
>XFX GTR being the most expensive
it's pretty in line with how most of the 480's are here, actually. nevermind that flash sales don't really apply since amazon/newegg etc. don't have delivery.
>2666 is all you're looking for
it's the same price as a 2400 MHz 8GB stick. same CL, didnt notice anything odd to make the 2666 one worse.
thank you for the advice though, will watch for any sales until the ryzens get here

>>59745560
>$170 for a haswell 3.2/3.4 locked i5
You'd have been better off with a G4560. Almost as fast, a better upgrade path, and money saved.

Or a 965 X4 black edition for $50 or so off ebay.

>>59745582
>$370 cpu+motherboard+cooler
>lets add some shit 2666 RAM to that when 3000 or 3200 is only $10-$20 more

well
>paying that much for 4 threads to begin with
guess you can't really fuck it up any worse.

>>59745577
>tfw Waiting for the 1600X and Vega
Why do I torture myself

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>>59745661
G4590 is not available in mexico.

B250 motherboards neither.

The suffering of living in a irrelevant third world country.

I need help.
Never built a computer before, never bought a decent computer before.

I live in the USA
I want to use the computer for software development game development (unreal and unity)
and video games.
I'd like to play runescape and league on max settings and anything else at least on high settings.

I'm not sure what my budget is. I'm saving up towards it. Its probably going to be the last thing I buy before I move out.

>>59745654
>the one in my build is 150, while the gold rated ones start at 250
Alright fair enough. Just get the decent that seems cheapest then. Seasonics are always decent.

>it's pretty in line with how most of the 480's are here
Ah okay. Well the XFX GTR is the best RX480. So if it costs around the same as the others, it's an obvious buy.

>>59745679
idk senpai I've had this i5-2500k and 7970 for 6 years and it's only started getting slow the past year or two. And much more on the CPU than GPU end, even.

It's upgrading to the 1600X I'm slightly anxious for, but still don't need it now. I can still wait for Vega/Volta/Navi I feel like fine.
Then again I don't play games a lot anymore, and as long as it doesn't drop under 30 I'm fine.

>>59745692
>living on the border to the USA
>not smuggling yourself in to buy cheap as fuck PC components and selling chiclets on the way
???

>>59745721
>runescape league on max settings
I'm pretty sure a G4560 with the integrated GPU can do at least 60fps minimum on both of those with settings maxed or close to it, man.

Just get the Ryzen 5 1600X, a B350 motherboard, and a cheap 4GB RX470 (that's not the poorly reviewed PNY ones. red devil are okay, though, I guess).
And probably 16GB of DDR4 2666-3200 given development work. 8GB is likely not enough for that.

>>59745721
Whatever pc you build that can develop games can run League and runescape on max.

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Looking for a bit of input on an upgrade next week. Currently have a GTX 980,SSD, and 750watt PSU that are perfectly fine.

ASUS Z270-P
Core i5-7600K
2x8 GB DDR4
GTX 1080
500 GB Samsung 960 EVO

Need to run Counter-Strike and flight sims.

>>59745866
>here let me bottleneck this 980 with an overpriced 4 thread CPU and 2133mhz memory

Way off. You need to replace all 4 of those components.

>>59745866
You didn't say what you have now.

i dont give a shit about overclocking, what cpu should i get?

>>59745750
Wow, you know your shit. Clearly I do not because I didn't understand any of that other than the 8gb part.

>>59745752
What computer would you suggest for that?

>>59745916
Budget? Purpose? Read the OP that says to state that shit.

>>59745951
google each of the shit I said and you'll see what they are.

>>59745969
sorry gaming. i have a budget of $850
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yfHXpb
this is what im looking at right now though i think im going wait for ryzen though

>>59745894
That's easily enough to max out CS on 144fps+, dunno about your flight sims.

>>59745676
>only $10-$20 more

The anon posted a dollar amount with his rig. I endeavored to stay true to that amount in my suggestion. I don't like to spend other peoples money. Yes, $20 is a big deal for some people when the choice is a measly few more Mhz or food.

>If it were up to me, I'd buy a TridentZ DDR4-4000 2x8gb kit, but that would cost more than the anon's complete build.

>>59745993
Yes, don't ever get an i5, pretty much.
$821 for only 4 3.4/3.8Ghz threads is a waste of money.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TKKftJ
No monitor so you'll have to cheap out on the SSD or something to bring the price down. Or just get an RX470, that'd be better, imo. The SSD will stick with you longer than the GPU, generally.

>>59745894
You're spending $1k+ for only 4 threads.
Your CPU will heavily, heavily bottleneck the GPU in many games unless you're playing at least 1440p.
And you forgot the cooler.

>>59746094
already ordered the case and the monitor but the rest of this looks good
thanks!

>>59741305
>Absolutely silent
>gaming

lel no

>>59746094

i'm gonna go with a 1440p 144hz monitor.
Pure Rock for cooling

Programmer friend of mine said there was no reason to get i7 except for streaming and videoediting.

Why does bottleneck issue disappear with higer resolution?

>>59745894
I think it'd be better with a i7-7700k. the 7600 is good but the 7700 would do more justice to that gtx 1080.
Now... if you are only running that game and those sims, downgrade that gpu. 1080 is way to much for your needs.
Go with the gtx-1070, its almost as good and costs half the price (360-400 usd).

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>>59746191
Okay, but even at like 1440p, you can have trouble staying over 60fps minimum with only 4 threads.
I would assume you're looking at a variable refresh monitor that goes up to 75hz, 90hz, or higher and would usually want to be more in the 75-90 range since the 1080 will push that in a lot of games.
But even a 4.8Ghz overclocked 7600k is going to drop under 60fps in a lot of newer games, let alone under 75.

Either get a locked 7700, or the 1600X. Even the 1500X would be an improvement on average over the 7600k.

>Why does bottleneck issue disappear with higer resolution?
Because FPS gets lowered and bottlenecked by the GPU instead of CPU, simple as that.
You don't have the CPU stuttering and having trouble keeping up as much when it doesn't need to put out draw calls as fast and it gets some break between them.

>>59746241
>the 7600 is good
No, it's not.

Maybe if you totally take out that it's $240. And that you need a $140+ motherboard and $90+ of cooling to get it to reach a good overclock.
But even then it performs far worse on average than a LOCKED 7700. Or even 6700.

Maybe in a vacuum, it's "good" if you forget about the absurd cost for the mediocre performance.It was $150, then maybe.
Just like how the 6850k is good, but it costs too much for a motherboard and shit, and it's $600 itself. price-performance matters.
But considering you can get better performance on average with the 1500X, stock cooler, and a $50 cheaper motherboard, no it's not good.

>>59745951
Well it depends on your budget really, Honestly if you are taking courses and game development I would say just use your computer lab PC they will most likely be better equipped than what you can afford and will also have less distractions. If you just wanna play league on Max settings just get a 470 or 1060 and a i5 or ryzen 1600 and 8gb ram.

is it worth getting those usb wifi adapters?

specifically this one

>>59746646
oops forgot link

https://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-150Mbps-Raspberry-Supports/dp/B003MTTJOY

>>59746646
>>59746658
Not if your machine isn't in the same room as your router.

>>59746639
its not courses I'm teaching myself since I already have a background in programming. So I have to get a computer that can handle game development. how ever much it costs I can save up for it.

>>59746696
you probably want a ryzen 1700, for gpu you want a 1070 or 1080 and 32gb of ram then. keep in mind this is super overkill for the games you listed.

>>59746727
He'd probably be better of with the 1600X since he's not going to overclock. Its stock performance is going to be much better in his games, even if slightly worse for multitasking, compiling, and shit.
Recommending that everyone overclock is pretty dumb. Most people simply don't, even if their CPU/mobo supports it.

It's not like the difference in the jump of going all the way down to a 4c/8t.

I would think 16GB would be enough though. Just important to go 2x8GB then he can add 2x8GB later if needed.

>>59746696
I don't get how you have a background in programming and don't know what sort of CPU or GPU you should get.

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New workstation at work.

>Corsair 450D
>MSI X99A Godlike Gaming
>i7-6950x
>1080 ti
>64GB RAM
>1TB M.2 Samsung 960 Pro

I got the hand-me-down Titan X (Maxwell) that we pulled from another workstation. Not complaining as it replaced a GTS 680.

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I'm having a very hard time deciding between these two /g/.

>FractalDesign Define R5 (Blackout Edition)
>NZXT S340 Elite

Any input?

>>59746945
because programming and IT are different.

>>59747039
NXZT looks much higher quality.
The Fractal has so much ripple in the covers up top and really all over the whole whole case. Looks lower quality in general.

However.. Fractal supports 3 140mm rads, or 140x420mm rad up top, which is really nice.
But there are also parts of the case that don't have dust filters, and maintaining positive pressure with big radiators is fucking hard.

I personally prefer designs like that which actually fucking seal up the spots where you can't put a fan, and you have a radiator "passive" with no fans on it, and the case can suck in air and the positive pressure all pushes out the radiator. Easier to fit stuff, keep out dust, AND keep it quiet that way.

If you're doing air cooling:
NXZT. It looks better, and is obviously made for air cooling with liquid as an afterthought.
If you're doing liquid:
Fractal, but it's still not ideal without some modding.

If I get RAM that's in an incompatible frequency on a Ryzen CPU, what's the worst that can happen?

>>59747196
How do you program without understanding things like complex vs simple instructions per cycle, SSE, AVX, SIMD, bullshit float "math" on various different ARM, and how that works on the hardware you're targeting ???

I'm a programmer, and certainly wouldn't call myself a "hardware guy", and have to ask more knoweldgable people on that some times.
I still know enough on how to buy a decent PC for the money and a given purpose which is largely down to my programming knowledge.

>>59747207
Downgrades a step or 2 lower.
Like your 3200 might run at 2933 or 2800.

>>59747228
I don't do game design. I'm learning, but I know it doesn't run well on my current computer.

Android studio and eclipse work just fine. Unity and unreal development engines kill my computer. SO I'm asking what would be best from experts. I looked up the suggested specs from unreal's website. But I wanted advice from people who spend a lot of time doing this, what might be best for me.

>>59747228
What if I have 2400?

>>59747259
Then it could drop to 2133, but it'll probably work.
You could probably even up the voltage to 1.35v and manually overclock it to 2666 or 2800. Don't let your timings get looser than like 16-18, though.

>>59747275
And if its 15? Should I just give up and get an Intel CPU or should I shell out the $80 for some new RAM?

>>59741681

:(

ryzen 5 build
1400
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VVT2f8
1600
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L7F7gL
r8

>>59747368

this is dumb and pedantic but plz don't put hyperlinks in quotes. it's one extra dumb step

>>59747039
Thank you for your input.

I think I will be going whit the NZXT.

Has anyone found deals on cheap SSDs lately? How cheap do they go?

I have a computer I need to sell that's just missing HDD/SSD. I know I'll have an easier time selling it with an SSD.. and 120GB is pretty much the minimum size people accept.
Don't really want to spend more than $25 on that. Already spend $42 getting an M12II.
Or should I really just try selling it without a storage drive. Do people actually buys those?

It's an i5-2500k, 7970, in a thermaltake shark (yeah, old), with a decent Gigabyte Z68 board. Don't want to invest too much that I don't get back in selling it.

>>59747333
>And if its 15
timings are what you'd set in a manual OC.
Higher voltage will allow some combination of tighter timings and higher clocks.

>>59747389
ok what part of that triggered you, you fucking autist? get a life, nerd.

>>59747410
Also I have a 128gb SD.
I could just have windows on that, couldn't, if I get one of those USB thumb drive converter things, right?

>>59747368
>1400
the build at >>59746094 is better.
Replace 1500X with 1400 if you want.

>1600
That build looks better, except you could find a cheaper RX480 or just go with some $110-$135 4GB RX470 in the 1600 machine. You'll be GPU bottlenecked, but whatever, just upgrade the GPU later, duh.

>>59747410
You're not getting an SSD for less than $40.
At least one that works, anyway.
Cheapest good ones on the market are kingdian s280 (not s180) and Adata series ones

>>59747441
can rx470 4bg play csgo 1080p full screen on 200+fps?

>>59747458
Lul. I didn't say a good one.

Anyway... I figure I'll list it on Craigslist and if someone wants to pay $100 or $150 more I'll install a hdd/ssd and legit windows for them.

>>59747499
Did you try googling "rx470 csgo benchmarks"?

It should handle about 275fps at 1080p.

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>>59747039
I used the S340 elite in my first gaymen build that I threw together a few weeks ago. The ease of cable management in the S340 is really nice and the elite is much better than the shit-tier glossy black/plastic paneled standard S340. The other case I know nothing about but personally I'm not a fan of brushed aluminum.

I'd give a solid recommendation for the nzxt

I have an i5 650 (not 6500) and 8gb of 1366 Mhz ram and a 750ti. Do I actually need to upgrade my cpu and will an rx 480 be severely bottlenecked at 1080p with this?

>>59747526
Thank you for the info friend

>>59747541
Don't you drop under 30fps as is? That's a super weak CPU. That's a bigger bottleneck even than your 750Ti which should at least play some games at low settings 60fps+.
An RX470 isn't going to magically make your CPU work faster.

You should upgrade your CPU to the Ryzen5 1400 or 1500 instead and keep the 750Ti if that's what your budget allows for.
Even a g4560 would be a massive upgrade over what you have now, but a 1400 would be even more massive.

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or CRYORIG H5 Universal?

For a i7-7700

how good is the stock cooler that comes with the ryzen chips, heard it is better than intels but haven't used any AM3 or even AM2 fans.

Is the i7-7700k really worth it over the i7-6700k?

>>59747962
>Is the i7-7700k really worth it over the i7-6700k?
No. Who told you it was?
The 6700k gets about 97% as high of clocks and doesn't have as shitty of TIM and thus is much less likely to need delidding. And the 6700k is generally cheaper.

The only realy benefit to Kabylake is that the chipset has 4 more PCI-e lanes and that kabylake has a DRM engine on the chip for 4k netflix.

>>59747944
It's way better than Intel's.
It looks like the 1500X, 1600, and 1700 all get the same 95W TDP cooler (and this really, actually, means 95W TDP at like 80% fan speed. Though at 100% it's not loud)
1400 gets a 65W TDP one that seems good for about 3.8Ghz at most.

That 95W TDP one seems like it's good for 3.75-3.85Ghz on the 1700, and probably 100mhz higher for the 1600 and maybe another 150-200 more on the 1500X.

>>59748024
Not exactly the same cooler. The wraith stealth that the 1500X and 1600 get don't have the diffused LED.

>>59748002
What about i7-7700 vs i7-6700

Both locked, is the 6700 still pretty good?

>tfw rig falling apart
>2500k
>Motherboard sound shit the bed awhile ago and had to buy sound card
>Cheapo case I bought has its internal rubber grommets disintegrating
>Fans are fucked up and will for some reason randomly decide to go max out at 100% and be super load even at idle and then die back down
Not sure what I should do, part of me wants to throw this whole shit out but I only use this shit for web browsing and basic shit nowadays so it's not like I'd see a performance increase in chrome from upgrading. Kinda want to keep dragging it alone but I feel like the motherboard dying is right around the corner with my luck.

>>59748077
In the case of locked, a 7700 is significant improvement since its clocks are significantly higher but fixed.
While the 6700k stock clocks are lower than the 7700k, it overclocks to like 97% the same.

Very straight forward.

>>59748080
Upgrade to Ryzen and a nice case, duh.
>not like I'd see a performance increase in chrome from upgrading
With enough tabs and porn streaming, you will.

>>59748080
Sell it to some retarded kid used for 80% of what you paid for it lol. Just look at the amount of people asking "is this a good deal used" in these threads.

>>59748120
Sorry for asking so much. Would you say a i7-6700k would be superior to a i7-7700, due to being almost as good as a i7-7700k?

>>59748418
uhh... not a direct comparison.

The 7700 is way cheaper. stock cooler. b250 motherboard works for it.
The 6700k will be better when overclocked but will cost about $150-$200 more in total for that overclock.

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Would anyone here be able to do a build on part picker with a $1,000 budget? I want to use the build mainly for video editing and music making software. It would seriously be appreciated for any help. I really don't know what to decide on. Thank you in advance.

>>59748539
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M7mbZ8

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