Trump has allowed every ISP to sell your personal data witho

>>59733621

Disappointing.

>>59733621
Delete this now.

How is /pol/ convincing themselves they support this? I haven't been there to see the reaction

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>>59733621
So much winning. Fuck freedom, am i right trumpfucks ?

>>59733754
>It's not freedom if WE don't support it.

>>59733621
>NSA, CIA and FBI collect data on all Americans for years, collaborating with corporations and ISPs
>You suddenly care cause muh Trump

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>>59733781
>suddenly

>>59733781
People suddenly care because it's now LEGAL to farm your personal data and sell it on without your consent. Nobody with even a relatively small amount of intelligence was okay with the CIA doing it either, but this hits extra hard to all the retarded normies and backwards Trump supporters who probably would've argued "CIA should be allowed to spy for muh national security". These people don't care for their privacy in the first instance.

>>59733621
W signed the Patriot act.

Obama signed off on Prism and hired HBGary to sabotage wikileaks by blackmailing journalists.

Both of these things are 1000x worse than ISPs selling your history. You don't care about privacy or net neutrality. You just hate Trump. This new bill is peanuts compared to the foundation laid by his predecessors.

>>59733825
>it's LEGAL now
Man that's so much worse than before when they were doing it anyways. Fuck drumpf and fuck all white people amirite reddit?

>>59733829

>His predecessors were also bad so you cannot criticize him
What kind of autistic logic is that

>>59733829
I don't see Trump working to fix the patriot act or have it repealed

>>59733829
>But OBAMA

Whataboutism is NOT an argument.

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>>59733621

Is it wrong that I genuinely look down on Americans as being dumb?

>>59733621
Your ISP is already doing this. He stopped measures that would have forced them to stop had they come onto play later this year.

>>59733864
What a swell guy.

It's really sad seeing people unironically defend this. I honestly thought people learned some stuff this election cycle, but it turns out they just turned into drones for another side.

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>had enough of it
>installed tor
>this ip address has been banned
>reason: exit node
>lookup ip address
>some place in LA

I'll bet the world is laughing at us right now

>>59733621
corporations are now FREE to do with the data resulting from the service they provide you with. Which you don't need to buy from them.

What's the problem?

>>59733839
>>59733829
>>59733781

>Trump makes it easier than ever before for corporations to spy on you and sell your personal data
>Hasn't done a single thing to fight against the privacy issues of the past i.e patriot act
>Makes it worse instead
>Pointing this out is wrong

Are you people seriously demented? What kind of childish mentality prevents you from criticizing him because his predecessors have laid the foundations? He is continuing their legacy instead of doing something about it which is just as fucking bad as doing it himself.

>>59734055
That they wouldn't have been if he didn't sign this.

>>59734029
Yes we do faggot. HAHAHAHAHAHAH

MUH LORD a-and SAVIORRRRR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>trump literally avoided a monopoly shilled by Google and Facebook disguised as "net neutrality"
>all privacy laws are in effect anyways
>the executive order doesn't allow anything, it mere stop a law who isn't in vigency
>FTC has the duty to enforce this shit, not the FCC

>>59734029
All tor exit nodes are banned from 4chan along with VPNs and proxies because people in the past have used them to try to ban evade and post CP.

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>>59734068
>he wants to restrict a persons freedom
Why?

>>59733661
Regulation = Government = Bad, of course

I've also heard some people say the law is too big and has explicit benefits for a select few companies.


I don't know what it's gonna take for some people to admit they fell for a meme and a con artist.

>>59734058
Because Trump literally hasn't do anything.

>>59733842
I'm not defending Trump. I'm saying that in one week you're going to completely forget about this ISP deal because Trump is going to say or do something else, and like a triggered goldfish, you're going to rant and rave and be upset about that for three minutes, then you'll forget and be triggered by something else. If this really mattered to you, you won't forget about it by next week, but I know you will. Just like you forgot that Obama passed SOPA the same day as the Boston Marathon bombing.

>>59733862
>Whataboutism is NOT an argument.
Actually it is. Your reddit catchphrase "whataboutism" does nothing but create double standards and hide the fact that you're a fucking hypocrite.

>>59733850
No one will fix it. Not so long as corporations have their hands in senators' pockets. Trump wont fix it. Bernie Sanders wont fix it. Rand Paul won't fix it. If Karl Marx's ghost was elected, he wouldn't fix it.

>>59734055
>Which you don't need to buy from them.
cool, can you point me to the other internet provider in my area?

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>>59733661
the same as /g/. commie tears.

I mean surely they did. We knew about this beforehand. Both trump and hillary were against encryption and privacy online. They stated it clear as day, many times.

People, these privacy rules were never in effect. Literally nothing changed, it will be exactly the same as it was before he signed the document.

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15115382/buy-congress-web-history-gop-fake-internet-privacy
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39443161
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/222

>>59733863
literally every isp in the world is selling your data dumbfuck

We should've voted for Bernie, god damn it. Fucking Trumpfags

>>59734029
All tor exit nodes are banned on 4chan for years now retard

>>59734152
Mine don't, what's your point?

Living in a 3rd country btw

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>>59734155
It's not Trump's fault Bernie lost the nomination.

>>59733621
If you want to bicker about Trump and Obama, go to /pol/ or back to /r/homosagainstdrumpf.

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>>59733829
>sabotage wikileaks

>>59734058
>easier than ever before
>easier than hardware backdoors built into every iPhone since 2008
>easier than remotely activating your microphone and camera

FUCK DRUMPF AND FUCK ALL WHITE PEOPLE THIS IS THEIR FAULT!!!

>>59734175
>bernie lost the nomination
You mean Bernie was controled oposition

>ITT: /g/ is defending a Google and Facebook shilled bill

>>59734183
But this is very much a /g/ related topic you fucking turbo sperg

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>>59734108
I can point you to stop using the internet for personal purposes :^)

>>59734058
Way to completely miss the point.

ISPs selling your history is NOTHING compared to the NSA reading your emails and remotely activating your webcams and microphones.

Yeah, ISPs selling data is wrong. But look at what else has been going on for LITERALLY 10 YEARS NOW. If you could remember this shit for longer than a month you wouldn't be so outraged right now.

>>59734211
There is nothing to talk about technology wise, nothing is going to change because the privacy rules never were in effect. You and the rest of the thread just want to get into a political internet fight.

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15115382/buy-congress-web-history-gop-fake-internet-privacy
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39443161
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/222
Read these links. Please.

>>59734222
SHhhhh friend, It's okay because a black guy did it. But big orange cheeto has to be racist so it's bad

haha little drumpfies got drumpfed! drumpf drumpf drumpf le drumpf lmao lpsers

>>59733621
>Implying ISPs weren't doing it already

>>59734222
And what has Trump done to undo at least a fraction of the bullshit of the last 10 years? He was praised like he was the second coming of the Messiah yet he's just the same as every president before him. People shouldn't be surprised this is even happening

>>59734273
Not in my country they're not

Amerifats completely and utterly btfo

>>59734211
This thread is not about tech, it's a a thread about bickering about party politics. OP doesn't even attempt to discuss the news item from any other angle. It's all about Trump Obama Omp Trubama. Take your political mudslinging to a board it belongs to.

>>59734323
this
faggot CP loving mods should ban OP for being a faggot.

>>59734296
Well, he stopped a law to guarantee a monopoly of Google and Facebook of advertising over the internet.
Now, you should demand that the promises of infrastructure and liberalization to break the monopoly of Comcast, Verizon and other ISP's

>>59734198
this law isn't even about privacy, the FCC wanted more control over who gets to collect and sell your data. Lawlbook and BeEvil were exempt from this bill. What a (((coincidence)))

Obama's law didn't even prevent ISPs from selling your data, this whole story, is retarded

>>59734315
Mah dude, feel good to not living in a cuck-country

>Law was going into place later that prohibited ISPs from selling our browsing history
>Drumpf signs an order to cancel this
>"Nothing has changed"

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>>59733781
>>59733829
>>59733839

So basically the obscurantist reactionaries behind Trump can only argue in his defense through fallacies like red herrings, false dilemmas, tu quoques, ad homina, etc.?

Interesting. That tells a lot. Why would they need to appeal to such subterfuges if they were right?

>>59734348
The law practically warranted googe and Facebook some kind of monopoly on ads over the internet too.
I'm not surprised that also this was reported in media as somekind of Satan coming
>>59734358
ISP's cant sell browsing history.
Try to buy yours.

>>59734371
>ISP's cant sell browsing history.

They can to large companies.

>>59734380
Substantiate

>>59734380
Yes and no. Yes: They can sell metadata pointing to some IP. No, they can't sell info that identifies you.
The same thing that Facebook and Google does, and the same thing that these two would end monopolizing if this law was in vigency.

>>59734296
>undo at least a fraction of the bullshit of the last 10 years?
Obama had eight years to undo that bullshit and did nothing. Trump has only had three months.

I don't expect Trump to do anything about these gross violations of digital privacy. I'm just wondering why you're crucifying him but Obama gets a free pass for doing far, far, far worse?

Don't answer that question. I know the answer. It's because it doesn't fit your agenda.

>>59734413
Oh, and I forget another thing:
""(b) Confidentiality of carrier information A telecommunications carrier that receives or obtains proprietary information from another carrier for purposes of providing any telecommunications service shall use such information only for such purpose, and shall not use such information for its own marketing efforts.
(c) Confidentiality of customer proprietary network information
(1) Privacy requirements for telecommunications carriers Except as required by law or with the approval of the customer, a telecommunications carrier that receives or obtains customer proprietary network information by virtue of its provision of a telecommunications service shall only use, disclose, or permit access to individually identifiable customer proprietary network information in its provision of (A) the telecommunications service from which such information is derived, or (B) services necessary to, or used in, the provision of such telecommunications service, including the publishing of directories. (2) Disclosure on request by customers A telecommunications carrier shall disclose customer proprietary network information, upon affirmative written request by the customer, to any person designated by the customer. (3) Aggregate customer information A telecommunications carrier that receives or obtains customer proprietary network information by virtue of its provision of a telecommunications service may use, disclose, or permit access to aggregate customer information other than for the purposes described in paragraph (1). A local exchange carrier may use, disclose, or permit access to aggregate customer information other than for purposes described in paragraph (1) only if it provides such aggregate information to other carriers or persons on reasonable and nondiscriminatory terms and conditions upon reasonable request therefor.""
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/222

>>59734413
>Web browsing history without your name attached to it contains frequent visits to your personal website/pages with your username

Gee, so hard to identify people.

>>59734438
We can argue about this all the day. In the ends it's the same: Facebook and Google tried to got a monopoly and failed.

>>59734419
Did my post indicate in any way that I supported Obama? I specifically said Trump is the same as every single evil cunt before him in office, including Obama. Not sure where you're drawing conclusions that I didn't speak out against Obama's anti freedom policies.

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>>59734094
>regulations are bad
>but it's ok to write in a law that allows congress to repeal agency policies and enforce further rules against them

and they'll probably just justify it with "but we need it to throw the muslims over the wall back to mexico" or whatever, while calling you some combination of "liberal" "SJW" "blueshift" "CTR" "shill" simply because you disagree with what their God-Emperor is doing.

>>59733621
You voted for this

>>59733829
>uh it's okay because obama did that too

Fucking knuckle dragging retard

>>59733621
Trump is going to save the 2nd amendment so I don't have to worry about getting shot by Jamal or federal agents when I'm in public minding my own business. Sure privacy took a hit, but freedom is safe from fascist commies.

>>59734496
>did that too
Trump practically did nothing.

Why do Republicans hate the American people?

>Corporations' wildest dreams coming true under the Trump administration

D-drain... the swamp?

>>59734507
Why you can't read the entire thread instead of spouting bullshit?

>>59733754
>restricting ISP's from doing whatever they want is freedom
oxymoron

>>59734504
Fuck off with this "good boy Trump aint do nuffin" shit. He literally signed the resolution. What more does he have to do?

>>59733621
man, fuck this fat ferret

>>59734462
Like I already said multiple times:

ISPs selling your internet history is NOTHING compared to the NSA reading your emails and remotely activating your webcam and microphone.

There is zero reason to be upset about this, since you should already know that the government has been stealing this information from you, plus more, without any sort of legislation being passed, for ten years now! Let me repeat that: this has been happening for ten years BEFORE this legislation passed!

It's like someone stabs you in the heart and another person steals your car, and you're like, "oh no! He stole my car!" Get your priorities straightened out.

>>59734535
Understand really what is.
Hint: It isn't what are you thinking it is.
Hint 2: you're drowning in a glass of water
Hint 3: You're doing the bidding of MSM and Google / Facebook.

>>59734551
>>>/ptg/
faggot

>>59734551
>But OBAMA

>>59734551
>steals my car
Nah, not even that.

>>59734551
I would argue there's a vast difference between government entity spying to """"""stop terrorists"""""" and private corporation spying to make an extra buck, but that's kind of hard to do on 4chan since someone will just resort to name-calling and smug anime posting eventually

Reminder that he just signed in a bill from the house. Who is he to deny the will of the people?

>>59734573
You're literally from reddit

>>59734574
He is doing what he said he'll do.

>>59734551
You're not seeing the full picture.
What will ISPs do now because of this law?
They will collect data, surely. How will they be collecting data? Storage facilities, man in the middle, deep packet inspection, machines sitting on the main hubs that inspect and record shit passing through them.
IE; the very technology that the NSA had to install before in secret.
This bill is an NSA enabling act more than to enrich ISPs even more.

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>>59734587
>imprison killary
>build wall
>ACTA
>release taxes
>tax reform

kek

>>59734579
do you have any evidence to support that claim or are you just gonna throw ad hominims until I stop replying so you can put another tally on your "internet arguments won" whiteboard

>>59733621
he's just putting loli fags in jail. is trump really committing such a bad crime

>>59734592
>using overkill measures in a network they practically control
>to gather data they can't sell easily and they can't use as they pleases
Come on.

>>59734613
>imprison killary
Two years from now. Mark my Works
>build the Wall
The Wall is waiting.
>release taxes
And destroy Rachel Maddow in the process
>tax reform
Do you think that he can do 8 years of govermnent in three months?

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>>59733621

>>59734652
isis in 30 days?
too busy golfing i guess

>Mfw blue states block this and the only ones that suffer are Trump voters

HahhahahHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>59734573
>""""""stop terrorists""""""
You actually believe that shit? The US government had information that an attack was going to happen on the World Trade Center. The US government was told to watch out for the guy who committed the Boston Marathon bombing. They ignored this intel. These are facts.

I'm not saying any conspiracy bullshit like the government wanted these things to happen. I'm not saying that. I'm saying the government had good intel fall into their fucking lap TWICE and couldn't stop these attacks. So what makes you think combing through everyone's emails will stop anything?

>>59734565
>It's okay when Obama does it.

>>59734592
You're missing the fuller picture. They never needed to legalize this bullshit in the first place. Snowden and Assange revealed this shit ages ago and Americans didn't care. The NSA, CIA, FBI will continue doing whatever the fuck they want. They don't need any legislation passed to enable them. They just need to say "muh terrorism!" and stay in the shadows where Joe "I-Use-Windows-10" Everybody doesn't notice them.

>>59734664
>destroy isis in 30 days
He never said that.
He said that solicited a plan to the military to destroy ISIS in 30 days. The plan is ready.

>>59734672
>You actually believe that shit?
do you think someone who believes it would actually put multiple quotes around it?

>>59734672
Well, Patriot act actually stopped lots of terrorist attacks. At the high cost of literally making the FBI, the CIA and the NSA independent entities with their own interests.

>>59734679
>political shit
>>>/pol/

Fuck everybody who voted for this guy. If you voted out of spite, fuck you a thousand times more. The Trump administration is a disaster for humankind, and if you don't already regret your decision, you're either a psychopath or otherwise seriously fucked up in the head.
Anyone who was paying attention knew what would happen with this administration. And it's happening. Good job letting this idiot born into wealth making you think he gives a shit about lower and middle class Americans. It's going to take years to undo the damage this asshole has done, and will continue to do. Good job putting party before country and not paying attention to the warning signs.
I'm glad I'm not serving in the fucking military anymore under this dipshit. I'm glad I'm not serving my country anymore. Every country on Earth is fucking laughing at us yet we're too fucking stupid to see why.

>>59734679
does he looks like a guy with a plan to you?

>>59734704
aren't you the fuck who brought it up in the first place?

>>59734701
>Patriot act actually stopped lots of terrorist attacks.
Name one.

>>59734709
>If you voted out of spite, fuck you a thousand times more
Kek, you realize that's what people who voted out of spite want you to feel, right?

>>59734501
>fascist commies
Nice contradiction of terms you have there.

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>>59734679
>The plan is ready.
lol

>>59734733
>commies can't implement fascist tendencies or vice versa

>>59734704
Everything is political lad. Even technology.
>>59734709
Do I have to do jockerposting?
>>59734719
>naming shit that doesn't exist
http://www.heritage.org/terrorism/report/30-terrorist-plots-foiled-how-the-system-worked
This is old, yes.
>>59734735
>LALALALALA I CAN HEAR YOU DRUMF BTFO LALALALALA

>>59734754
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/nsa-program-stopped-no-terror-attacks-says-white-house-panel-f2D11783588
Now, this says that patriot act doesn't work.
Really, the only thing that was clear of patriot act is that
>USA intelligency agencies have their own agendas
>USA Intel will fuck with the other agencies for their own gains

>>59734754
>bigly yuge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCnKtzQpCSs

>>59734777
>having a language so retarded autistic that a consequence of their own grammar is considered incorrect

>>59734783
>half of them are behind multiple VPNs
>that half is the republican majority
Kek, money well wasted

>>59734754
>naming shit that doesn't exist
that's exactly my point.

>Look at all these bad people I captured! Except you can't look at them because they're in a secret prison in Guantanamo and I'm holding them illegally without any charges and there's zero chance they'll ever go on trial.

>>59734679
The plan is, and always was "stop giving them weapons"

>>59734812
so, do you want to stop terrorists, or let them commit terrorist attacks first?

>>59734801
Republitards will sooner denounce the English language that Drumpf

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>>59734820
>>59734820
>Republitards will sooner denounce the English language that Drumpf
>the English language that Drumpf
>that drumpf
>that
Nice try, but you have to go back

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>You live in a time where /g/ supports the government in appealing ISP regulations

>>59734820
I'm not a republican. I'm not even american.
You have a really weird language. Your gramatical and your complex vowels are the cause of that "errors"
Besides that what's wrong with it? Doesn't the language a tool for communication? Trump communicates and he is easily understood.

>>59734844
He's not repealing anything, that would require rules to exist in the first place.

>>59733621
It's called capitalism, you filthy libtard.
Srsly Kill yourself.

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>>59734844
>/g/ has to be communist in order to be real /g/
Go back to plebbit if you want an echo-chamber

>>59734819
Oh, it would be great to stop terrorism.

But based on recent events in England, France, Germany, and Belgium, it looks like all this surveillance is for naught.

>>59734854
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-broadband-consumer-privacy-rules

>>59733829
Just because other people did worse, you think this is okay? I hate the Patriot act, prism, and this bill too. Stop using whataboutism you fucking retard

>>59733621
If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear.

>>59733863
In most objective measures, they are.

>>59734851
>Trump communicates and he is easily understood.
That speaks a lot of american education

>>59734744
Dude they are ideologies that stand in direct contrast.

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>>59734851
> gramatical
grammatical
>that "errors"
those "errors"
>Besides that what's wrong with it?
Besides that, what's wrong with it?
>Doesn't the language a tool for communication
Not sure I can correct this and still keep the original meaning.
possibly: Isn't language a tool for communication?

But yeah, he's understood. But because he doesn't sound like a college professor, people will shit on him because they lost and are upset now.

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>>59734859
>Wanting privacy laws is communist

>>59734894
alrighty then, let's make it capitalist:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/29/this-politician-gave-away-your-data-now-buy-hers.html

>>59734819
If you let them commit attacks first you get more excuses to buy big military toys from your military-industrial complex buddies. It's even more effective if the toys you buy do absolutely nothing against terrorism, and even more effective if they actually increase the likelihood of such events.

>>59734886
Yes, but in practice they often utilize a lot of the same concepts of rule.

>>59734865
>isps, you can't sell metadata unless you say you do in the service contract
>F****book, Google, you can sell metadata at will

Obamas bill was an FCC overreach to determine winners and losers through regulation. And the democrat donors were the winners(shocking).

Trump is making an even playing field.

>>59734879
Or that speaks lot of the bigotry of expectations that citizens of coastal cities have to the rest of the population.

>>59734820
they were denouncing him pretty fucking hard.

Before he won.

But now he's part of their tribe, like a hostile takeover and they have to support him or get kicked out of the red ooga tribe, since the blue ooga tribe would gang up on them otherwise.

>>59734905
>he would let innocent people die
Libtards are truly the scum of the earth

>>59734911
This.

>>59734868
>whataboutism
Sounds like some reddit meme term they use to cover up the fact that they're a hypocrite.

>>59734894
Privacy for ISIS, Terrorists, Niggers, Lolifags?

>>59734911
>>59734922
ISPs selling our data had to be opt in under those rules

Not anymore. Thanks Donald.

>>59734107
Whataboutism is when you say "Obama did something similar, so it's okay for Trump to do it now!", Which is bullshit and you know it.

By calling people hypocrites here to excuse this, I guess that means you're assuming everyone who dislikes this bill supports Obama? You're an idiot.

Obama has fucking nothing to do with this. He's gone, out of office. You fucking retards can't use him as a Boogeyman man forever

>>59734927
>Lolifags?
Not a crime
Call them when it's CP

>>59734916
The only republicans with power that hate him are McCain and the other faggot that was BFTO the other day.

>>59734917
I'm just telling you what US anti terrorism policy has been since 1990.
I'm not talking about 'possible policy', I'm telling you what is happening already.

>>59734927
Loli been legal since 2003.

It's 47978235D chess guys! Trump really cares about privacy!

>>59734940
Prove it?

>>59734933
For the love of god, read the fucking law in vigency before spouting bullcrap.

>>59734939
Yeah, AFTER he won.
Remember how popular he was before winning the red ooga tribe primaries?

>>59734934
Good thing he never said it's okay then, huh? :^)

>>59734934
>arguing with a supporter of 70yo trained fat orangutan in charge of the Internet

>>59734927
>Well the NSA is a good thing because it keeps us safe. If you want privacy laws you are protecting terrorists.
>If you don't have nothing to hide, then don't worry

You sound like a liberal pundit.

>>59734148
Yes, something changed. These rules were going to be in effect, now they won't be. Progress has been set back once again, thanks to the regressive party

>>59734894
who will make these laws?
will they have the power to change these laws?
will they have the power to make laws against personal privacy?
now you see the contradiction in the terms "privacy laws"

>>59734949
>i don't have arguments and I tell you.

>>59734943
>>59734938

Now It should be illegal again

>>59734962
Why?

>>59734945
Read some Noam Chomsky, kid. Yes he's a jew but he's one of those jews that gets called a 'traitor to israel' for giving a shit about exploded children.

>>59733621
Fucking dumbass trumplets, this is why people were pretty much saying they knew what's better for you than you.

Fuck you drumpf.

>>59734965
Because cartoons have rights

>>59734965
>>59734972
Because It's fucking degenerate.

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>>59734970
I'll look into it because I need some new reading material, but you may want to have some sort of example on hand rather than just saying "do this" and expecting people to listen.

>>59734947
>implying that trump will not weed traitors

>>59734982
Degenerate is flooding a country with cheap grain to force their farmers to switch to profitable goods, which happen to be cocaine and marijuana, and then bombing them for daring to compete with your tobacco industry.

>>59734982
>it's degenerate
how so?

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>>59734972
>>59734982
Here's a little light reading for you.

I know you have ADD, so you can just read the highlighted parts.

>>59734970
Chomsky outside his linguistics isn't worth a crap.
The guy can't even make his mind. Some days he is an anarchist, other days a marxist commie.

>>59735009
Are you that autist?

>>59734991
Honestly no but it's the same kind of behaviour that the US has been involved in between 1960 and 2000. You see, actual evidence of this more recent stuff is hard to find since it's all classified, but you can find the policies of the US when it comes to say, Columbia and realise exactly what the interests really are.
Just extend the logic of the 'drug war' to the 'war on terror' and you basically get what I said.

>>59735011
When the facts change I change my view.
What do you do?

>>59735009
I am not even reading that cancer based on the file name alone.

If this is about the UN trying to apply pressure to Japan to ban 2d depictions of rape in japan, you have more of a chance of banning weed in Colorado

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>>59735011
>marxism is incompatible with anarchism
you have to go back

>>59735037
You're correct in your comparison, anon. Japan laughed them right out the doors and continued drawing women getting aheagos from gang rapes.

>>59735033
>What do you do?
He probably lives in a psychotic fantasy then.

>>59735037
It's a statement by Japan.
IE it basically says "Protecting fictional people is dumb" and "We concentrate on protecting REAL ones, thank you gaijin". But in a much more eloquent and entertaining form.

>>59735046
>he believes that marxism is compatible with anarchism
Amerifats sirs.

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>>59735051
And rightfully so, At least one nation seems to understand the innate difference in something real and something fictional.

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>>59735009
>We should not ban any contents that depicts "unpleasant expressions" under content guidelines that enforce moral standards unilaterally on society.

>>59733621
>allowed
Idiots. They do what they want because the majority normie population has no clue.

>>59735087
Being allowed means they can do it without hiding it with walls of paperwork, and so make more money by avoiding the overhead of actually having to hide the activity.

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>>59735064
Ask me how I know you're fat

>>59735057
Thanks for explaining
I'm glad that I read it then

>>59735101
I'm lurking this board, right?

>>59734982
Yet you're on a degenerate website

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>>59735009
BASED JAPS STRIKE BACK
Can I fund this somehow?

>>59735161
Buy Japanese goods.
Support the very industry that Kumiko was defending.

>>59733829
You are so right it's hilarious

>>59733825
It already was legal.

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Why do you care unless you are a sandnigger pedophile Allahu Akbar?
Only Mudslime kiddie fuckers have reasons to fear.

>>59735226
Improve your trolling reddit-kun

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>>59734175

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>>59734107
>like a triggered goldfish
G O L D

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Companies improve the more information they have,
and it is in the good interest of America for American companies to be the strongest in the world.

I don't see what the problem is here.
Do you hate America?

>>59734923
That's exactly what it is
Notice that you're not arguing at all about how this is OK. You're arguing about the focus on Trump which is entirely hypocritical and empty when Obama did worse for 8 fucking years and they begged for more

>>59735100
So he made the system more honest, more efficient. Would you rather it stay in the dark, out of sight out of mind?

"Internet history" isn't exactly the most private thing anyways. People act like our phone history of the past wasn't documented and used by our governments/corporations. Internet history is no different. You are paying to connect to infrastructure that was built by a corporation and your data has no "rights" once you put it into that infrastructure.

>>59735242
whoever the fuck makes these images is a god-send

>>59735263
Well that is the, uh, 'upside', I guess.
I think the more positive upside is that people are going to be using end-to-end encryption more if they give a shit. And while we mock google for being botnets, they HATE competition for user data, so they'll roll out more and more ways for users to hide data from their ISPs (so google can get it instead)

>>59735266
They come from facebook so I hate them for that fact alone.

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Ok, here's the deal:
Russia is the new Nazi Germany.
There are too many Russians in USA.
Those Russians need to be controlled and tracked for spying and subversion and potential sabotage.
They need to be supervised for the moment we go to war with Russia to exterminate those Slavniggers.

This move is for the sake of national security.

>>59735260
An unprincipled shill for the rich is not an American.

>>59735298
>>Russia is the new Nazi Germany.
Why not just call russia the new soviet union?

The nazis were never a threat to america.

People are using this for political gain, they do not actually care about your privacy.
It's all "look, Trump!! evil republicans!!".
All of the other laws taking away your privacy were passed with bi-partisan support.
That being said, I don't support this but would vote for trump again if I knew this would happen.

Hopefully this will shock people into actually caring and a bill restricting not just ISPs but huge websites like facebook and google from selling your data will get passed.
Not likely though. The outrage from politicians and the liberal media is politically motivated.

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>>59735299
To be rich is to be American.
You are obviously too stupid to grasp this.

>>59735299
muh class warfare

>>59735305
Because Putin is worse and more dangerous than all Commie snowflakes that ever were in Soviet Fagdom.

>>59735321
And the 'Soviet Fagdom' was a threat way larger than Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany's biggest threat to the US was releasing all of the european colonies from french/british/etc control all at once.
America's only interest in the war before pearl harbour was making bank from selling weapons for the silly euros to kill each other with.

>>59735321
Putin doesn't have a place to fall death.

>>59735347
Nazi Germany was 1 year from developing an atomic weapon, and was made from a more intelligent people than the Slavnigger subhumans.
They were a bigger threat.

>>59735366
>he believes the jewish propaganda of Nazi as bigger threat
The paradox of WWII: Nazi germany couldn't haven't be a threat if USA simply refused to go to war

>>59735366
Nazi Germany was in a heavy-water deadend having denounced atomic physics as too 'jewish'.
Nazi germany was like 20 years from nukes, since they had a crazy guy who thought sniping and heavy tanks were the future in charge who had no jewish atomic physicists to petition him about nuclear weaponry. Remember that Nazi Germany had a massive intellectual purge when they dejewed their nation, so they didn't actually have much brainpower in atomic physics. Rocket science, jet engines (jet engines were another thing shunned by hitler, go figure) hell yeah but nukes? Nah dog.

>>59735400
whut

>>59735400
The main reason that the US sent troops to europe was to stop Stalin from swallowing germany and the rest of europe.

>>59735400
Nazi Germany was a machine that already had plant to purge even their Italian allies, and use the whiter ones as slaves, after the war when they would have the power to do so.
Americans would have been treated no less differently by the Nazis after they conquered Europe.
You are stupid and naive if you think an Empire with the power to destroy, would magically grow flowers and rainbows in its mind and be cordial to USA.

>>59735432
>he believes the myth that nazis wanted to conquer the world

>>59735432
Kek where do you think the racial purity movements started? Hitler took the AMERICAN RACIAL MOVEMENTS AND EUGENICS THAT WERE POPULAR IN THE US and applied them. The whole 'death camp' stuff killed eugenics in america pretty fast. In 1944, the USA had lots of eugenics proponents. In 1945, no-one dared after witnessing the reality of it.

>>59735441
Those who have the power to do so, will do so.
Power and might = right.

>>59735400

Son of a bitch that's some stupid fucking revisionist history.

>>59735410
>German engineers try to revolutionize firearms by making the first assault rifle
>Hitler sabotages them at every turn

>>59735470
Is that some kind of slur?

>>59735462
you = reddit

>>59735476
Yeah pretty much. Albert Speer had to go against party (hitler's) policy to get production high enough to keep the Nazis in the game.

>>59733621
The GOP is a bunch of lobbyist faggots whom you can buy to do ANYTHING. ANYTHING.

I fucking hate the democrats, but the republicans are retarded pieces of shit, too.

>>59735306

Finally, common sense.

Fan the flames of destruction, burn the mother fucker down so people are invested again.

>>59735485
It takes reddit-level ignorance to think that an empire founded with the purpose to expand and conquer would make exceptions just because you want to feel better about yourself in the present because you have a boner for the same Nazis who would have seen you dead rather than alive a century back.

reasons_to_deprecate_http_in_favor_of_https++

Good luck breaking the encryption to find out what kind of pr0n I'm watching, fucktards.

>>59735494

The Democrats want to concern troll the fuck out of you. Then when it comes time to back up their concern trolling they'll scream at you about diversity.

Republicans are just unrepentant, unmitigated cock suckers for who ever flashes the biggest suit case full of money.

>>59735522
https doesn't encrypt metadata retard

>>59735480

Yes white nigger, that is a slur.

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>>59735522
Don't worry. Banning encryption was something Hillary supported immensely, and if Trump supported what Hillary supported, it is bound to be "special" and have a special privilege to pass.

>>59735513
The philosophy of 'lebensraum' was mostly about freeing up space in the east, out of slavic territory.
Hitler's goals kind of snowballed after everyone declared war on him. Recall that while Hitler was genociding the slavs, he was pretty cordial to the french occupied territory. This shows at least the differences in attitude and his real objectives.

Why appeasement didn't work was because he literally wrote in mein kampf that he wanted to genocide the slavs to make space for germans. As well as the jew stuff. And so when he started attacking slav countries, he got attacked and used the military might of germany to occupy his attackers while intensifying the attacks on the east. It's also why he had a completely bizarre attack on the soviet union instead of first consolidating european power.

>>59735559
Yes. I'm a revisionist. Deal with it, Kike.

>>59735578
>he was pretty cordial to the french occupied territory.
Yes, he was cordial to the architecture.
The French people however he was not cordial at all with because he hated them with passion due to the Napoleonic shit right up to the WW1 shit.
You need to read up some history sonny instead of making up your own based on your wishy washy boner for Nazis.

>>59734504
>>59734946
Here's the bill that Trump signed.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/34

>nullifies...
>(1) applies the customer privacy requirements of the Communications Act of 1934 to broadband Internet access service and other telecommunications services, (2) requires telecommunications carriers to inform customers about rights to opt in or opt out of the use or the sharing of their confidential information, (3) adopts data security and breach notification requirements, (4) prohibits broadband service offerings that are contingent on surrendering privacy rights

protip: encryption

>>59735611
Literally what we had before Obama deal with Google.

>>59735568
Oy vey goy, It's not "banning encryption", it's the "Protect liberty and the economy through elimination of undecipherable hostile terrorist communication" act of 2017!

How could you possibly be against this?! HEHEHEHEHEHE

>>59735610
I mean relatively cordial. IE; french POWs actually got food, for example. And French people weren't genocided on a large scale. He might have hated the french but he also respected them.

You should read up on the eastern front if you think what he did to the french was 'hateful'. It was certainly nasty, but it was a military occupation. There's no way to do it nicely. But you can sure as fuck do it even worse.

>>59735600

At least you admit you are a liar, pale nigger.

>Hitler was just misunder see told, if we let him be he wouldn't have completely taken over western Europe and parts of Russia with ethnic cleansing. He totally would have stopped at the eastern front. And just been a cool dude bro!

>>59735546
Well yeah, they can still see which pr0n sites I visit. Great.
But they will no longer be able to see what I'm seeing there or be able to inject their own content.

Still awful and I'm not defending the bribability of the GOP, though. Don't get me wrong. The lobbies literally spent millions to get this shit through.
Truly a government for the people and by the people. Servants of the people, yep. That's totally what everyone wanted.

>>59735620
Protip: hillary will ban it

>>59735673
You think paris would be full of brown people if Hitler won?

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>people think Trumpfags are real and not just Russian trolls

>>59735638
>it's okay because we had it before...

Terrible argument.

>>59735680
It's enough to see that you visited furaffinity.com

>>59735697
>muh russians
Do you believe in homeopathy too?

>>59735697
WTF? I hate trump now.

>>59735730
>It says here that you want to restrict the power of corporations or government, and also you go to furaffinity.com on a regular basis. I wonder if voters approve of such things.

>>59735725
>hurr durr
Read this
http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15115382/buy-congress-web-history-gop-fake-internet-privacy
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39443161
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/222

>>59735697
As sad as it is Trumpfags are real. Trump's misinformation and verbal diarrhea probably wouldn't have spread as far as it did without them.

>>59735801
>t. cuck

>>59735690

Lol. Black and brown people fucking helped saved Paris from Hitler when the Foreign Legion rolled in.

>>59735856
Yes they did. But would they still be there if Hitler had won?
That is what I was asking.

>>59735697

It's like that mountain dew poll from awhile back.

People voted for shit like Gushing Granny and Hitler Did Nothing Wrong, except this time their votes actually mattered and now they have to convince themselves that they really meant it and didn't just meme on themselves like some kind of fucking idiot.

B-BUT HILARY'S EMAILS

>>59735879
Trump is unironically better for the US than the other candidates. Unfortunately though, they showed him the picture of JFK being shot and he's on board with the establishment now.

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Which ones?
The latest where Hillary was supposed to teach some news reporters how "the game works"?

>>59735884
Hillary wanted to backdoor all encryption.

>>59735908
Hillary also didn't win the election :^)

>>59735895

Dude was born into money, never worked a goddamn day in his life, and lived in a literal golden palace.

Trump IS the "establishment", you dumb cuck.

>>59735908
Hilary also wanted to sell weapons to terrorists, but that's just because she's a stooge of the people who actually run the country.
Now that Donald is in the seat, he realised that his money doesn't mean shit when the people that run the country literally make all the weapons.

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> All these liberal commie SJW tears

Praise KEK! Truly the greatest timeline ever.

>>59733661
you have the same knuckleheads that shout >oh they already spy on you

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You gotta hand it to Trump though.
If Hillary was elected, it wouldn't be 1 week without US entering another senseless war of war and destruction with some poor country.

Compared to her, Trump is far better, sine he does the same shit she would do, except on a far lesser level.

>>59735918
Sure but he got rich through real estate and not, say, getting money from weapon manufacturers to start wars and give tax-payer funded weapons to columbia, ISIS, turkey, etc.

>>59735918
The "establishment" is war mongers.
Trump's only war mongering is grabbing pussies.
Don't even attempt to equate the two.

>>59735943
Based pede gets it. America dodged the bullet by elected Mr. Trump as president.

>>59735943

You say that as if he didn't immediately order a raid that got a navy seal killed along with an 8 year old american citizen, while also failing to capture the guy they were after in the first place.

>>59735764
>Implying you need someone's browsing history to identify someone.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/bits/2015/01/29/with-a-few-bits-of-data-researchers-identify-anonymous-people/?referer=

>>59735918
No, being rich not necesarily counts "establishment" specially considering that Trump isn't that rich and isn't that connected with power figures.
He is establishment as any other TV star.

>>59735943
See, I don't understand this logic, at the end of the day, Trump won, Hillary is but a relic of the past now, we're at the stage where we can and should be criticising trump without resorting to "but Hillary would be worse!!"

For the record, I prefered a trump victory during the election, but people shooting down any criticism of trump but saying Hillary would do the same/worse is retarded

>>59734878
If you remove non whites they rise to third on par with Nippon

>>59735943

Yeah, don't start weighing in on wars.

There's lots of Saber rattling going on with North Korea right now. That could be a catalyst for World War 3. When we do something about little Kim, China takes objection, throws a few bombs, we bomb back, Russia steps in, and floors the pedal with some tanks and ICBMs and the whole fucking Peninsula is kick started again.

>>59735971
>i didn't read shit and I told you
ISP can't use or sell the info easily, like Google and Facebook does.
And yes. I know that they can track you with easiness anyway.
In fact, I dare to say even if you aren't in Facebook, they could make a profile of you based on what your friends talk about you in that webpage.

>>59735970
Far better than bombing a whole country and sending in thousands to die.
All he can do is miniature skirmishes here and there.
Even less than Obama with his drones of death.

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>>59735978

>>59735943
Trump could try to be and still fail to be, as bad as Hillary.

>>59736009
What are you talking about?
Trump increased drone killings.

>>59736009

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/2081180/33-reported-dead-us-led-air-strike-school-syria

>>59736002
>world war 3
>in this geopolitical panorama
North Korea depends of the rest of the world, a WW3 with nuclear weapons with them will be suicide for them.

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>>59733621
Why is everyone so ignorant about this? Boss nigger approved some rules in his last days they didnt stand a chance in hell of standing, thats why he did it right before he was out.

Those rules havent even gone into effect yet, so nothing has changed by this bill being passed. Everything is the same as its been for boss nigger's whole presidency, nothing has changed at all.

>>59736010

You can tell this is an older photo because he doesn't look disgusted to be in the same room with his wife.

>>59736010
>a photo with clintons somehow proves he's part of the same crap groups and power relationships that clintons participate.
It's like a photo of Michael J. Fox with Ronald Reagan.

>>59736009
Obama authorized drone strikes an average of once every 5 days, Trump has done that 75 times already, almost once for every day in office so far

If he continues this trend, he's going to vastly outpace Obama's drone record, by a huge margin

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>>59733621
Good, now they can compete with Google Fiber

>>59736008
Yeah, and the bill Trump signed made it easier for them to share your information.

>>59736057
More importantly Trump has stated that he believes we're too strict about civilian casualties and believes we should go after the relatives of people believed to be involved in terrorism. He's completely insane.

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>>59736057
>>59736027
>>59736019
I guess he's doing training practice for the Mexican Campaign.
Captcha: kek

>>59736044
You mean, the media is lying to create unrest for the Trump administration? You should be strung up by your knish goyim, such lies!

>>59736104
No, your moron, it lets the ISP in the same state that Onegro encountered before his deal with Google
>>59736113
>insane for thinking like a member of a colectivist culture thinks
Wow.

>>59736115
ew that font

>>59736113
That's actually rational.
If you want to kill someone, take out the roots and weeds to stave off future vengeance.
That's the principle of any successful historical overthrow and conquest.

>>59736119
heh, dont I know it. The difference in the conversation at work where everyone is a tech about the Russian "hacking" and then listening to the mouth breathers elsewhere parroting CNN is staggering,

>>59736044
Media still is butthurt because of TPP and they are takin their revenge

>>59736138
It looks better than your genetic code,
so i like it.

>>59736149
It's just going to make the locals hate us which leads to less intelligence and more terrorism. It works well if you intend to keep the conflict going indefinitely which seems to be the neocon way.

>>59736149
>Entire families of people you know being killed by association, causing everyone to live in fear of being a target, as all it takes is guilt by association

jesus christ, you can't possibly see how this could completely have an adverse effect and create even more radicals?

>>59733621
PSA PSA PSA

They were already doing this, stop being disingenuous.
Seriously if you had ANY delusions that your ISP wasn't already selling your data you are fucking retarded.
It's amazing that /pol/tards get this more than /g/, that's pathetic really.

The government cannot, and will not protect you. Quit complaining that it doesn't.
Protect yourself. You should have been doing this anyways but this is /g/ after all.

>>59736178
The locals are only going to feel lucky that the others died but they lived. They won't give a fuck.
It's only if there is family relation that hate will spread.

Unfortunately for Trump, that means he has to wipe whole villages at once since everyone is related there.

>>59736197
>the lobbyists and tech giants are innocent and have already bee fucking you!
>shame on you for not knowing
kys mouth breather!

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The liberals are buttblasted, therefore winning

>>59736200
You are thinking like a Westerner.
They don't think like that.

>>59736137
Again, heres the bill.

>nullifies...
>(1) applies the customer privacy requirements of the Communications Act of 1934 to broadband Internet access service and other telecommunications services, (2) requires telecommunications carriers to inform customers about rights to opt in or opt out of the use or the sharing of their confidential information

How does that not make it easier for an ISP to sell your information?

>>59736215
I didn't say they were innocent, in fact I implied the opposite.
Seriously you are retarded.
If you didn't already have contingency measures in place for this you should fuck off to reddit or /v/.

>>59733621
they were already doing this before trump was elected, stop pretending this new you fake news peddling asshole.

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>>59735175
>support the industry
I've been doing everything in my power not to so far, but I guess I'll turn that around after seeing this

The only thing I didn't do was watch anime illegally(for the most part anyways)

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>mfw the Middle East would have been cleaned up long ago if USA didn't abide by some stupid "rules of war" (as war gives a fuck about rules) from faggy Europe, and just cleanly wiped out and genocided one village and town after another during their campaigns in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

We would have a roach-free Middle East, ready to be converted into tourist heaven filled with technology and porn and all the good stuff.

>>59736236
Because still doesn't supersede
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/222

>>59736249

>you fake news peddling asshole

Wait, he DIDN'T sign it? Well, that's a relief! Thanks for clearing things up, friend.

>>59736197
this, stop pretending to care about privacy of all sudden because you're a libtard who hates trump so much it consumes your entire life, you concern trolling assholes.

>>59736272
Or they could have stopped supporting the Saudis decades ago

>>59736291
doesn't matter what he signed, they were already doing exactly what you're saying before that happened making it totally irrelevant.

>>59736308
Or USA should stop meddling in affairs of others and let kill themselves

>>59736308
this

if they had stamped out wahhabism during the 50s, we'd be living in an infinitely better situation

>>59736320

Now you're telling me that he DID sign it? So it's NOT fake news, and you're just a faggot spewing buzzwords because you're too fucking dumb to form your own thoughts?

Huh.

>>59736320
>poltard literally believing Congress passed a bill to do absolutely nothing

It was to overturn an FCC regulation that was about to go into effect making it illegal. And now the right for ISPs to sell your personal information is guaranteed by the US legal code.

If you're going to be a retard, please stick to your retard containment board.

>>59736383
>And now the right for ISPs to sell your personal information is guaranteed by the US legal code.
It's not, fucking moron. It's still illegal.

>>59736419

You're drunk /pol/, go home.

>>59736458
>hurr durr
47 U.S. Code § 222

>>59736284
It's only for internet subscription data. Not internet activity.

>technical configuration, type, destination, location, and amount of use of a telecommunications service subscribed to by any customer of a telecommunications carrier, and that is made available to the carrier by the customer solely by virtue of the carrier-customer relationship; and
>(B) information contained in the bills pertaining to telephone exchange service or telephone toll service received by a customer of a carrier; except that such term does not include subscriber list information.

>>59736178
Protip: The locals already hate the US. there's no way to bomb a civilian location and not produce hate.
Ergo the best solution is to remove all the locals.

Actually it isn't but it's not going to make things worse.

>>59736261
I would recommend buying the doujins that women make but they're either brutal gang rape and torture or BL.

>>59736272
Protip: the goal of the Iraq war was NOT to make the nation stable, it was to channel money to weapons manufacturers.
Leaving people alive to fight is the entire point. The idea situation from the perspective of the US is to leave just enough alive that you can continuously kill a percentage of them so that birth rates make up the difference.

>>59736484
Again. that bill is only for customer proprietary network information.

Information that helps ISP's bill you, like how much data you're using. It doesn't say anything about internet browsing activity or other data.

>>59736766
Some definitely hate what they've been told about the US but a lot of them are probably ignorant of the world outside of their village. It's basically impossible to capture a region without local support. The locals know the area and who belongs and who does not and they also speak the local language/dialect and can act as interpreters.

>all the faggots saying this is okay because the NSA does it
Yeah, people's threat models on this issue expanding from just the government to their ISP, advertisers, and maybe even their employer totally isn't much of a change at all.

Nothing to hide? nothing to fear

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