>start learning assembly yesterday >understand the concept

>>59727583
Microsoft doesn't exactly care about developing in asm. They just expect you to build everything with their compilers

>>59729526
still, wouldn't that be a bitch to work with if you're the one responsible for developing the os?

>>59729627
windows is mostly developed in c

>>59729627
Use the compiler
Windows unlike Linux has a micro kernel so most things can probably be just written in c

>>59729627
The only people who actually have to make windows work with asm are the engineers. After that, the lowest you will ever need to go is c. Maybe you will need to memorize all this shit, but I highly doubt it. What would you do?

>>59730018
I've read Windows Internals, and it's not really a microkernel as such. It would be worse if it was. Also, macrokernels can be and are written mostly in compiled languages.

In Windows, you don't really use raw syscalls or interrupts, it's all done by calling functions (which are technically C functions, but can be called from assembly by manually setting up the appropriate calling convention). DOS programming on the other hand does use BIOS interrupts as the main form of I/O (since it doesn't come with a C library, and compilers wanting to use one generally have to use static linking), and it's my understanding that that's more like how Linux syscalls work.

>>59729859
>>59730018
fair enough
>>59730037
I'm not doing anything im just doing for the sake of learning.
>>59730389
but at that point wouldn't it make sense to just use c? or is there still a performance advantage to be had?

>>59729627
>still, wouldn't that be a bitch to work with if you're the one responsible for developing the os?
Yes.
Someone post the ms dev chatlog about the menu compiler.

>>59730932
>but at that point wouldn't it make sense to just use c? or is there still a performance advantage to be had?
There are rare cases - like in video codecs or interpreter loops - where really skilled asm programmers can utilize registers and other stuff in order to avoid branch prediction saturation and cache misses compilers would create.