>people who think javascript, python, or lua are programming

lol Python is more robust than LISP, Go, Rust, and D combined

It's marketing. If you call it programming, you can charge people to "teach them how to program."

Scripting languages are a subset of programming languages you retard

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>>59723229
You are like a little baby, watch this.
>i program in HTML and CSS

>>59723263
You can argue the same about HTML and CSS. You're still not actually programming anything.

>>59723229
A scripting language is a programming language that happens to be good for scripting, you fucking retard.

>>59723245
Python is a fractal of bad design almost at the level of PHP.

>>59723229
>being this pedantic

autism.

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>>59723299
HOLY SHIT

>>59723229
>millennials
>births spanning from 1980 - mid 90's

everybody here is a millennial, idiot. If you're not you should probably leave.

>>59723350
>You can argue the same about HTML and CSS
No, you can't. A markup language is not a scripting language or a programming language.
>but HTML and CSS together are turing complete
Yeah but neither of them are alone, meaning neither of them is a programming language.

>>59723469
HTML is Turing complete? Really? Source?

>>59723483
Learn to read

>>59723425
Most people mean "young millennials" when they say millennials.

>>59723469
>A mark-up language is not a programming language
Correct.
>A scripting is not a programming language
Incorrect.

>>59723513
If CSS+HTML is Turign complete, the union is a programming language. Si STFU. Facts are facts.

>>59723229
>Especially with millennials
Why make a question if you know the answer

>>59723522
just quit using the term. it's played out as fuck.

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>>59723229
I bet nobody likes you

No True Scotsman: The Thread

>>59723469
>No, you can't. A markup language is not a scripting language or a programming language.
A HTML page is still instructions that are interpreted by a computer, so in a sense a HTML page is a program, which makes HTML a programming language.

People talked about washing machine programs back when they were still entirely cam-driven with just a timed sequence of valve actuations and closing and opening of switches, with no branching logic. Of course the prevailing usage is for languages that are Turing complete, but let's face it, it's a completely arbitrary distinction.

>>59723599
I use Javascript, of course I'm an unlikeable git.

>>59723528
>>A scripting is not a programming language
I never said that you dumbass

>>59723621
>A HTML page is still instructions
No, it isn't. It's a way of denoting structure, but does not instruct. HTML is not interpreted or executed. None of its tokens correspond to actions, only structures.
The fact that your web browser does things when fed an HTML file does not make it a programming language in any more sense than making numbers appear in cells when loaded into Excel make CSV a programming language.

>>59723229
If it really buttflusters this much, then yes, for your sake, scripting and programming are not the same.

>>59723871
But you still implied it.

>>59723350
No, you can't. A language has to be Turing complete.

>>59724555
>But you still implied it.
No I didn't. Learn how to read

>>59724661
HTML and CSS together are Turing complete.

>>59724678
Proof of this?

Scripting languages are processing languages by definition, dumbass.

>>59724676
You were replying to a post claiming that scripting languages were not programming languages, and your rebuttal was that it was the opposite. That's implication. Learn how to write.

>>59723229
If compilation is your definition of programming, I guess scripting != programming. But even languages like JavaScript compile to byte code.

>>59723229
Some scripting languages can do programming (ex.: Python). Others cannot.

>op's face when i'm pulling down 90k a year in the midwest slinging python shit

>>59724937
Good for you (in all seriousness). Just curious, what industry?

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>>59724937
Teach us your ways, master.

>as in what exactly you do with python, and how to get jobs doing it

>>59724953
>>59724956
i'm doing some hybrid "meme learning" and webdev

learn how to glue the sklearn library onto django

>>59724924
In that case ASM and direct x86 aren't programming languages. That would be a very very weak case to defend.

>>59725036
If that indeed is OP's definition, then yes he has a weak case.

>>59725036
>ASM
That's probably that granddaddy of all modern programming language. So to claim it as anything but is a huge stretch, even if you're trying to make a straw man otherwise.

Can't give any further input on direct x86, however.

>>59725036
>ASM isn't a programming language.
Lol, no. Maybe by today's standards. But there's nothing about assembly that isn't direct programming.

>>59725355
>ASM = mnemonics that represent instructions for the CPU
>program = the combined instructions
>ASM is not a programming language
k, whatever