So i am looking to get a new cpu that isnt over priced and will

>fx
>any year
LMAO

>>59717172
Sorry mean't FX not FZ

>>59717184
I don't understand what you are complaining about ?

>>59717172
Buy a used FX8350 and a watercooler, overclock it to 4.8GHz and you're pretty much set for your manchildren stuff.

>>59717210
Yeah but then i have to BUY more shit when i don't want to , the max i will spend is £200 on a cpu and other shit if needed but all i need is a cpu that wont bottleneck the fuck out of my GPU

>>59717172
>that fits AM3+ motherboards
buying an 8320 and watercooling it is the only way to go. so this>>59717210
you can look at akasa venom a10. I don' know british retailers prices, but it is very capable.

>>59717245
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-FX-8300-3-3GHz-8-Core-Socket-AM3-FD8300WMW8KHK-Processor-w-Grease-/272570797206?hash=item3f767c4c96:g:biMAAOSwZ1lWdqIS
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cooler-Master-Seidon-240V-All-in-one-Blue-LED-CPU-Liquid-Cooling-Kit-/201846610025?hash=item2efefed869:g:DjkAAOSwSlBYwVjz

Something like this

>>59717287
it seems it is £52.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/akasa-venom-a10-single-radiator-liquid-cpu-cooler-hs-105-ak.html

>>59717307
So what is the difference between this and JUST a fan seeing as this water cooling also includes a fan , it just cools water instead of cooling the cpu directly (i tend to not give a fuck about cooling because ive used fan cooling for over 7 years

>>59717172

Don't buy FX again...

Just try to save money for few more months and get an r3 when it's out with an AM4, so you can upgrade to DDR4 when you have the capability.

If you really need to buy RIGHT NOW

Get a cheap B mobo and a G4560. FX are shit.

t. 4.6 GHZ 8320 owner

>>59717354
Oh water transfers heat faster , i understand now

>>59717370
FX 8320 cant be THAT bad

>>59717395

I made a friend upgrade his Phenom to a 8320 cos it was bottlenecking like a motherfucker and it made GTA and Overwatch unplayable. I think it's an ok CPU, certainly not stellar but seems to do the job so far.

>>59717430
I have a FX8300 and running at stock with a HD7850 and I can run overwatch at 1080p 100% renderscale without any hickup. You must have fucked up something.

IS there any better amd cpu's for under £150 because the 8320 is starting to sound kinda worrying , i know it can overheat but i can deal with that !!

>>59717493
all of the FX series get hot. you cannot escape it.

>>59717523
Already using the fx 4300 black edition so i know the pain but ive been needing an upgrade and desu any upgrade is a good upgrade from this low tier shit thats taking down my 1060's performance

>>59717523

>CLC on an FX-8320
>never gets above ambient temp even under full load

YOU CANNOT ESCAPE IT

>>59717491
I have a 4-core phenom from like 2011 and it plays overwatch maxed out with no issues whatsoever. I also have a 1070, though. Basically, there's probably something else wrong with your friend's computer if it can't play that game.

>>59717493
I am using my stock fan along with FX8300 and it never reached 50 degrees...

>>59717544
there is no fx chip better than 8320.

it is 8 core, cheaper than 8350 and 8370 and they are the same chip as 8320 but with different clock speeds.

>>59717576

>thinking 8 cores are actually useful for gaming

ishygddt

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>>59717370
Stock 8320 on water loop here with RX 480 (Strix), nothing has ever skipped a beat and the only bottleneck I've hit is turbo modded Skyrim

>>59717613

>The only bottleneck I've hit is in a six year old game built on an engine from the 90s!

>>59717491

You didn't understand you double nigger. The Phenom was the one that was collapsing all the time. The 8320 made both games playable.

You know, the improvement will be minimal for gaming. Only on highly threaded games you'll see the difference.

I strongly recommend you to sell the current system and upgrade to Ryzen, or Intel. A Ryzen 5 1600 will demolish that current and potential setup, and you get tons of upgrades like DDR4 memory and AM4 socket.

Even better if you get Intel, since you're gayming.

>>59717632
You nignog, the way you wrote is wrong go back to school

>>59717587
go shitpost in ryzen threads please.

>>59717672

I don't think so, but English is not my native language so whatever. Anyways, the 8320 seems to do a decent job at games.

>>59717676

I can't do it, man. They're just so damn happy to finally have decent performance from an AMD chip.

Reality will set in in a couple years once Intel releases their next chipset that makes AMD completely noncompetitive while their fanboys try to convince themselves that they didn't get ripped off by buying in to a CPU with no upgrade path again.

>>59717697
>Reality will set in in a couple years once Intel releases
just wait right? how familiar.

>>59717715

Intel's current offerings are already better than Ryzen, so I'm not sure wtf you're trying to say.

My point is that it'll only be a couple years before AMD doesn't even come close anymore. You know, the same thing that happens EVERY TIME ayyymd shits out a new uarch.

>>59717741
price wise, intel is not better. amd got them by the balls.
>it'll only be a couple years before AMD doesn't even come close anymore
still doing this I see.

>>59717741
>Intel's current offerings are already better than Ryzen

Only gayming manchildren and actual children think this.

>>59717766

Wow, you mean the cheap piece of shit CPUs that are obsolete before they even hit the shelf are cheaper than the good ones that won't bottleneck or overheat while playing 6 year old games?

>>59717790
>overheat
you mean kaby lel? the one needs delidding to cool down?

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>>59717771

God, if only there was some sort of metric we could use to compare CPU performance. Something objective so we don't have to rely on feels to tell which one is better...

Unless you need it now, it's probably worth waiting a few months for the R3.

FX-8320 is decent enough for a couple of years to come and definitely your best bang/buck if you already have an AM3+ mobo.

I wouldn't bother overclocking. by the time it struggles it's time to upgrade anyway and what you've saved on the cooling is better spent of a replacement.

>>59717833
>300 bucks cpu beats 1000 bucks cpu
>defending this
have fun with your overpriced housefire.

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>bulldozer
>in the year of ryzen

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>>59717833
really makes you think.

>>59717940

>"Ryzen is worse than intel right out of the gate!"

>"No it isn't!" *posts benchmarks showing that Ryzen is worse than intel right out of the gate*

shiggy diggy

WTF happened , i went away for like 30 mins and now the thread has nothing to do about what cpu is better for £150 !!!! also fuck off im not paying £500 for intel which just offers an extra 5 - 10 fps

>>59717493

The quad core smt zen ( r5 1400 i think) should be right around that pricepoint. FX is garbage, dont buy it.

>>59717986

oh if you're looking for cheap and don't give a shit about performance, then amd is definitely the way to go. You'll end up paying more in electricity costs between the TPD and cooling your house in the long run though.

Also fuck you, I bet you play games at 1600x900 you inbred fuck knuckle.

>>59717548
>never gets above ambient temp even under full load

Ok bro.

>>59718008
>don't give a shit about performance
No i don't give a shit about an extra 5fps for double the fucking money you absolute spaz monkey now give me £200 or less cpu recommendations or advice (il boost the budget by £50)

>>59718008
Just sell the damn thing and but a decent, recently made CPU.

>>59717172
If you are really budget constrained, I'd consider waiting for the lowest end Ryzen 3 and getting the cheapest B350 board you can get (for overclocking). You've managed to make it this far with your FX 4300, I'm sure you could wait a few more months.

At least you'll have a wonderful upgrade path if you ever want to upgrade in a few years again.

If anything, expect to see a bunch of really cheap FX 8320s or 8350s after Ryzen 5 and 3 come out, since many FX people will be jumping ship to get a Ryzen.

>>59718059
i guess i could sell my old gpu and also my other components besides my current gpu and memory to get the rysen + motherboard

>>59717966
>worse than a $1000 CPU
oi vey!

>>59718008
Intel is unironically the housefire CPU brand now though since Ryzen is here.

Anyway OP, the 8320 ranges from either a good/noticeable upgrade to completely useless depending on how much your 1060 is bottlenecked by single threaded performance of the CPU (probably a lot on some things I'm guessing.) Point is, nobody can really tell you if the 8320 is worth it or not. It's a 4-ish year old CPU that can really hang in there and impress on some things and then get BTFO on the next thing by more modern chips. Up to you to decide if that is worth it.

>>59718074
Well at this point any upgrade is a good upgrade and sure rysen does look promising but i guess you could say that i can be a little impatient and not only that but it costs more and so does the am4 motherboard when i am only getting promised an extra few fps (as far as i know)

>>59718039

>being this poor

Have you stopped to consider that maybe this isn't the hobby for you? I hear that quadcopters are pretty cheap now.

>>59718071

Surely you can get a cheap 50 dollar biostar mobo

>>59718074
But i digress , it would stop the bottle-necking which is what i am looking for but so would the 8320

>>59718113
>poor
>owns a gigabyte gtx 1060 6gb
i could spend more of course but i dont see the fucking point of doing so when the only thing amd offers is A FEW EXTRA FPS READ THE ABOVE ANON ^^^

>>59718094
I'm just telling you that the difference between the 8320 and 4300 will be minimal in certain applications where the jump to a new platform, while more expensive, is a guarantee of an improvement whether it's a new intel or new AMD platform.

"Any upgrade is a good upgrade" is not the case here because the FX series has pretty fucking bad single threaded performance by 2017's standards, especially if you are not committed to heavily overclocking it which requires additional investment in a good cooling setup. Depends on what you're doing mang.

>>59718094

just buy a PS4 you gimp

>>59718074
>8320 ranges from either a good/noticeable upgrade to completely useless depending on how much your 1060 is bottlenecked by single threaded performance of the CPU


That's the issue. 8320 barely differences itself from the FX 4300 in single thread performance. I think it's actually worse.

So for gaming, maybe better minimum FPS overall and better FPS on highly threaded games, which aren't so common.

OP, just upgrade to Ryzen once Ryzen 3 and 5 are out.

>>59718137
Why are you here if you use a ps4 gtfo

>>59718113
>buy the newest shit for lots of cash or gtfo!
fuck off, elitist douche.

>>59717172
It might be worth buying used.

>>59718145
Sure i guess it wouldn't kill me to wait for even longer but getting a cheap and effective motherboard thats am4 will be tough

>>59718153

Just telling OP that if he's so hard up for cash that he's asking 4chan of all fucking places for hardware advice, he'd be better off buying a console and not having to worry about whether or not he'll be able to game on it.

>>59717201
>I don't understand what you are complaining about ?
It's shit if you are
>muh gayims
If you watch youtube and compile lots of shit i could probably recommend it.
I had one, don't have anymore.

>>59718094
I really think it will be worth saving up for the cheapest Ryzen.

I'm sorry dude, but the 8320 and 8350 are pretty much equally as strong as the 4300. The only difference is that it's 4 cores vs 8 cores.

Your GTX 1060 isn't really going to feel any faster most of the time. Because most games don't care about more cores at the moment.

>>59718175
go back to /b/ please , we have no room for haters and console fags when pc is superior also read
>>59718127

>>59717172
fx is actual garbage just save the money up for ryzen 5 next week

>>59718206
There's actually a small ipc gain, but the it's almost not even worth paying $70 for an 8 core FX since Ryzen 3 is going to be a thing.

>>59717172
I used to have this cpu and I literally need to manually fan it with an electric fan to cool it down.

>>59718173
It's a new platform. With time, and with R3/R5 being the cheapest models, maybe cheaper boards will be released as well.

>>59718207

>owning a GTX *60

>thinking that's not the poorfag card

you really don't know shit about computers, do you?

>>59717172

>8 days for ryzen 5
>goes for FX

>>59718237
>£250 +
If that isnt mid tier to you then please leave , we don't need you here if you believe that you need all the new expensive shit that will get old within 5 years and become worthless anyways

>>59718237
Come on, really anon? GTX 1050 and RX 460 is low tier.

Shit like the Titan X turns into the mid-tier stuff for the next gen. e.g. $1000 Maxwell Titan X = $400 GTX 1070. Less than half the damn price.

>>59717395
İts not that bad, you are right but its still beter to just few monyhs and upgrade r3 for i3 prices with dew more months of saving.

I can get 60+ fps im every game ezept 255 mod Skyrim and arma/dayz with my 8320 and 290

But ny laptop with 6th gen i3 is still faster at emulation than my desktop. Thats how much dfference ryzen and intel have over fx lineup

>>59718252

I'm rocking a GTX 960 and an FX-6300. The difference is, I'm under no illusion about how shit my system is.

You're in here trying to convince everybody that you're not a half-retarded poor asshole, while also trying to get people to validate your decision to buy a fucking FX chip of all things...

>>59718305
Actually gonna get a ryzen now if you could fucking read you would understand this also kind of ironic for you out of everyone calling other people poor assholes , do you just hate every person you meet , god damn!

Just buy an r5 + b350 mobo + ddr4 for ~$400 next week and sell your old stuff.

>>59718326

You had to learn about Ryzen, the biggest news in the hobby for the last 5 years, from a 4chan thread.

You were ready to slam down money on an FX chip, completely oblivious to the fact that the entire line is obsolete despite that fact being plastered for MONTHS on the front page of every site even remotely related to PC gaming.

And you want me to believe you actually know what the fuck you're talking about? That you're NOT a total fucking retard incapable of using a search engine?

Ok friend, whatever you say :^)

>>59718393
Get out of my thread if you are just gonna hate then , not everyone has to be like you for them to be classed as smart , who shit in your cornflakes in the morning because you have to be pretty damn sad to be arguing on /g/ over a fucking cpu when all i asked was for advice , not to get called a retard just because i like to use my money efficiently !

>>59718430

>i like to use my money efficiently!

>hey guys i want to buy an fx-8320 lol

D U M B A S S
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>>59718430
you're still a complete retard

>>59718430
>asks for advice
>disregards said advice

kek'd.

>>59718393
I know people who just make a gaming pc and pay zero attention to the pc hardware industry until something in their rig needs upgrading after half a decade, or straight-up breaks.

I'm not OP, but this is actually a thing that happens man.

>>59718305

>criticizing fx

>uses fx

Its kinda obvious you are just looking for an argument m8 , now you got one so can you go float into the fucking sun already or go back to /b/ where you (if not came from) definitely belong

>>59718472

Hey man, Alienware exists for a reason. If you want to get the best bang for your buck though, you're gonna have to learn how to do some research instead of getting info spoonfed to you.

>>59718481
or he knows that its fucking shit first hand

>>59718481

>you can only criticize something if you don't have first-hand experience with it!

goddamn you're dumb as fuck, dude

>>59717172
>fits AM3+ motherboards

Right there is where you are doing it wrong.

I do know that feel, I too have yet to go with the newer platform. With 32 GB RAM and a just fine system I really don't like having to buy a new motherboard and a new CPU and new RAM. That being said, it is what I will be doing eventually.

Don't spend money on upgrading that AM3+ board with a new CPU. Just the power draw it has over the newer generation makes it a bad investment.

Just put that money aside and save up until you can buy a good motherboard and DDR4 RAM and a new CPU. The cost of this really is much higher than a new CPU but it's what you'll have to eventually do to get a worth-while upgrade. This is what I personally will be doing.

>>59717395
>FX 8320 cant be THAT bad
It draws power like crazy, but other than that it's a fine CPU. It's main issue is that it's AM3+ so you miss out on very basic features like USB 3.0. Throwing more money on that platform seems silly, even if you already have the motherboard and RAM.

>>59717641
I totally agree with this. Either don't upgrade and stick with that current AM3+ CPU or do a real upgrade and get to a newer DDR4 platform.

>>59717766
>price wise, intel is not better. amd got them by the balls.
I'm personally waiting to see how the Ryzen 5's will be priced locally if/when they show up. The Ryzen 7's are all priced way higher than Intel's chips. I know there's a supposed "reference price" people talk about but that means nothing when everyone is selling them for $120-150 more.

>>59718481
>waaah everybody is wrong but me!
>they can't possibly know anything about cpu's

>>59718430
this board isnt your fucking tech support line. if you're an oblivious retard that asks stupid questions then expect to get laughed at.

>>59718524
>>59718510
>>59718493
Ok now i knew you wanted an argument , but this is clearly bait at this point

>>59718492
That's what I'm saying though. I know people who do a ton of research on pc components, buy them all individually on Amazon or eBay and shit, then build their rig.

Then they completely ignore the PC hardware industry for a long time and just fuck off and play games or watch anime or something until a component needs replacing/upgrading. I'm not even kidding.

Many people are way simpler than we think they are.

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>>59718539

lol

>>59718534
Ok then explain to me how for £99 an fx 8320 is NOT worth it when it is clearly superior than a fx 4300 the exact thing i want not to mention as i said im not wasting £100's just for a few extra fps when the 8320 does the job

>acting like i never consulted youtube before posting the thread

>>59718553

I don't know man, I'm pretty confident that this guy is just as simple as I think he is.

>>59718567

>this dog shit is clearly superior to this cat shit, how is that not worth eating?

>>59718553

>WAH WAH THAT GUY IS ONLY RESEARCHING WHEN HE NEEDS TO WHEN HE NEEDS TO PAY 100% ATTENTION TO GET ANYWHERE IN LIFE

grow up anon why would someone waste time when they can just use it more wisely

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Observe

>>59718628

I'M NOT PAYING $8,291,000 FOR 5 EXTRA FRAMES

Buy an i3

>>59718567
Were most of those games where the 8320 did way better multi-threaded games man? The moment you play a game that only uses one or two threads, the 8320 will shit itself and have 6 of its cores turn into a paperweight.

Ryzen will have strong cores and many of them too for a cheap price. Just wait, it will be good for your wallet in the long run.

>>59718665
I'm sorry , id like to retain my heterosexuality

>>59718628
A really shit example in current times. Would have been acceptable five years ago.

>>59718655
You don't need to, you impatient cuck. Ryzen 5 will be out on April 11th. Wait at least until then to check some benchmarks out.

You keep saying that the 8320 will be better than the 4300 and we're telling you that will only be the case in certain situations. Either keep what you have and deal with it or spend a little bit more for an actual upgrade.

>>59718695
I kind of agree as there are probably examples of FX chips getting BTFO even worse in modern titles, although admittedly doing alright in some others that can use 8 threads.

>>59718655
Not op btw

>>59717940
what's the 'new' and 'old' stuff in that benchmark?

>>59718726
>>59718655
*cough* i think you are supposed to be talking to me the OP not the other dude but hey sure

>>59718754
before and after game patch.

>>59717172
this is a waste, just wait for r3/r5, save up some more cash and get an AM4 b350 mainboard and RAM.

>>59718867

but I'd rather spend my money RIGHT NOW and get literally just one extra frame per second

>buying anything FX
>a near 5 year old CPU series that was already mediocre when it hit shelves

Start over from scratch, wait for Ryzen 3 and 5 to come out, see how they compare to competition, alternatively: opt for a G4560. (Might be a gamble on how long it'll last before obsolete, see G3258)

Going from FX-4300 to anything FX won't see you massive gains, can't recommend it.

t. former FX-8350 owner who upgraded from Phenom II X4 955

>>59718726
That guy isn't OP.

>>59718914
also not op , fuck off

>>59718922
Are you trying to tell me someone is posting some ebin bait here?

>>59718970
ebin ?

>>59718655
>>59718914

>>59718747
>>59718773
>>59718922
>>59718968


it's fucking hilarious that people are actually confusing me for OP when I post over-the-top retarded shit like that.

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>>59719009
op here , i noticed

>>59719026

awesome crop job there, genius

>>59719058
thanks

>>59718916
OP might want to get Ryzen 3.

Since the R5 1400 is an 4c8t that's only going to cost $170. It seems likely that we'll see the lowest end R3 being below $100 since AMD's really trying to compete on price.

If we're comparing just the cores and threads alone.

Example:

$330 R7 1700 = $1050 i7 6900

$220 R5 1600 = $430 i7 6800k

$190 R5 1500x = $350 i7 7700k

$? R3 1100 = $240 i5 7600k

The last one might be shit since we don't know anything about the R3 pricing yet.

The really big price gaps (not so much for the 1500x) make me think that we might see the lowest end R3 being below $100, making it a really good deal (since it can OC), even with the mobo and ram in mind.

>>59717172
If you cant wait for r5/r3 grab the FX8320e its a great chip you will notice a decent performance increase overall.

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>>59719109

>>59719109
Only in multi-threaded titles. In most cases the 8320e will shit itself when there's only one or two cores to use.

FX is doing well in more recent titles, but multi-threading isn't big enough yet. There will tons of games where the 8320e will be as good as a rock on a sidewalk.

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who comfy fx 6300 here? theres no need to ugprade

stick with an fx chip. its truely the last botnet free processor

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>>59719222
i kek'd

>>59719169
>FX is doing well in more recent titles
I think that's kind of the point. at least that would be my concern if I had an AM3+ and only enough money to replace the CPU.
newer games tend to be ever more multi-threaded and take advantage of muh cores. older games are less demanding anyway. OP could get a couple of years of decent performance out of an FX-8320.

>>59719433
But Ryzen offers both strong and numerous cores at the same time. Anon could start with an R3 and upgrade to a used 6c12t R5 later down the line. It's way more beneficial for his wallet in the long run.

I'm just saying having both is more favorable in the long run.

There aren't many Vulkan and DX12 games yet, but the pool is getting a little bigger year by year. I still wouldn't recommend an 8 core FX even as a sidegrade.

>>59717741
>Intel's current offerings are already better than Ryzen

But they're not.

After firmware fixes got released, the R7-1700 beats everything Intel offers. And Intel (on a Tom's Hardware review) then had to under clock the i7-7700k too get a lower power consumption.

Intel has been beaten until it's capable of producing a 10 or 7nm chip with new architecture, instead of slapping a new name on a old overclocked chip design on better silicon.

>>59717741
> Intel
> winning

Ha. ARM chips is kicking their asses, even Microsoft dropped them like a bag of shit.
And now we have AMD introducing server boards that will far exceed Intels offerings.
Intel is getting hit on every front and they are freaking out internally.

By Allah it feels good to finally see true competition again.
Intel better roll out Hyper-Bipelines 2.0 to compensate.

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>>59719001

RIP thread

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>amd fx is bad
>claims intel is good for the price
fuck off