>systemd There a distro that doesn't use systemd? Or

gentoo

install it

>>59701406
Slackware

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>>59701406
install void

>>59701406
>t. retard

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>>59701406
devuan

>>59701476
this

>>59701406
Just use FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD

>>59701580
This. I love FreeBSD for my (storage) servers and OpenBSD for my router and desktop.

what the hell is systemd anyway

Seems like nothing new can come up on this site. Just old memes and shills.

>>59701634
found the newfag

>>59701634
>no gnu+linux knowledge
what are you even doing on /g/

>>59701634
linux distro

>>59701634
new accessory for your iphone 7

>>59701634
A set of applications meant to replace all of the existing GNU/Linux user space.

>>59701634
its kind of like reddit

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>>59701406
there is literally nothing wrong with SystemDick

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>>59701539
>>59701936

>>59701669
Found the newfag!

>>59701499
>/s/$USER/anon
Why does that work if screenfetch doesn't output litereally "$USER"?

>>59701904
>A load of opinionated bullshit that controls far too many people while silencing criticism for not being progressive
Best description so far.

>>59701580
I also support this. The worse system-D gets the more hope I have for FreeBSD to gain users.

>>59702067
it's bash

>>59702067
Try `echo /s/$USER/anon`.

>>59701664
Ur in the minority bud

>>59701499
This, literally the new Arch. I fucking love Void.
Alpine is also fine for servers or 4chan machines.

>>59701634
when you are booting a linux system, there's all sort of things that need to be initialized: services, configurations, etc.
sounds simple, but it's a real hassle, because sometimes you need to wait for a service to initialize before you can initialize yours, and sometimes the one you need doesn't initialize, so you get in a deadlock, and it's very hard doing all that right in order and correctly
distro maintainers had to write initialization scripts for each of the services they provided (and code all the exception handling logic like the above in those scripts)
then some dude made systemd that simplifies all of that, the maintainers don't have to write init scripts anymore, because it's so easy that the people that write the software ship the systemd init scripts with their own software, and the software work all distros that use systemd out of the box, it's gotten simpler to the maintainers/devs
but for systemd to work, it has to be a huge pile of unmaintainable shit, it's too big (we all feel that it should be simpler, but no one has done better than systemd), and bugs may arise from all that hidden complexity that may compromise your system

>>59702149
I know it works, that's not the question.
>>59702142
yeah but if my understanding of pipe is correct (it isn't),
then that means that screenfetch doesn't output the username directly, it actually outputs $USER, and then bash only translates that to the actual var when it prints to the console
am I right?

>>59702208
>No one has done better than systemd
OpenRC and runit

>>59702231
No. $USER gets replaced with his username by bash.

>>59702261
yeah, you don't understand what I'm asking

$ screenfetch > output.txt
$ sed -i 's/$USER/anon/g' output.txt

Would that work, you idiot piece of shit?

>>59702333
Yes

Yes it would

>>59702353
How.
The file contains my actual username "Renata" in UTF-8.
How does sed magically knows that "Renata" is $USER.

>>59702364
drop -i

>>59702364
You mongoloid.

$ echo 'yourusernamehere' | sed 's/$USER/anon/'

would also work. You know why? Because sed isn't replacing "$USER". $USER gets replaced by your username by bash, before sed ever runs. Once you hit enter, bash translates $USER into your username, so the actual command that gets run is

$ echo 'yourusernamehere' | sed 's/yourusernamehere/anon/'

PCLinuxOS

>>59702176
Ur in the minority bud

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>>59701936
Kys, dumbfuck.

>>59702250
This

Void with runit is objectively the best distro right now

>>59703138
>rolling release
>best

The only good looking distro without systemd is devuan and it still doesn't have a stable release yet.

>>59702407
I know that, you fucking stupid bitch. Stop explaining the obvious. God fucking damn it. God damn you people are stupid.
But it's clear to me that you don't know you people don't know how it works too.
Would the output.txt example work or not?

>>59703680
Yes it would. Like I already said. You're the tard who doesn't seem to be understanding anything

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>>59701406
use BSD

>>59703680
The single quotes around the sed formatting remove variable substitution.

$ echo '$SHELL' "$SHELL" $SHELL
$SHELL /bin/bash /bin/bash

>>59703680
Dude what in the hell are you not understanding here? Are you female?

The environment variable is substituted before the string is fed to sed, so sed literally has the username in the string, not the variable name.

And why do you keep asking if stuff works? Go type it into a terminal for God's sake.

>>59703754
Depends on your shell bro

>>59703774
I can't think of a shell that's not true for.

>>59703715
It's been a while since I last seen this pic
What anime is it from?

>>59703909
Meguca

>>59701499
>>59702189
the fuck is void tho?
who made it? who finances it?

>>59704010
>who made it?
A group of nerds. (join us, we're fun https://github.com/voidlinux/void-packages/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md)
>who finances it?
A group of nerds.

>>59704010
It's a new linux distribution. It's made from the ground up, not a repackaging of another distro.

It has its own package manager, xbps, which is actually neat.

Only downside of void is the lack of packages, package maintainers and poor documentation.

xbps allows you to build your own packages but I don't have the time to be my own package maintainer for all the shit I use.

>>59703762
>The environment variable is substituted before the string is fed to sed, so sed literally has the username in the string
If sed has the username in the string, it can't replace it because it doesn't know what to replace.

>>59704024
Are you implying you are one of the devs?

>>59704056
I contributed some packages and maintain them.

>>59704036
A pbuilder / Mock like tool would be cool if the lack of packages is a problem. I will check the system out, see how autistic it is.

If it has all the non-free media shit in it with virtual tools (vmware/virtualbox open source tools) installed by default I am sold.

>>59704068
Ah cool. keep it up anon.
I'm too autistic to install any distribution that calls themselves "Linux distribution" in good consciousness, but we need more anti-systemd distros regardless

>>59704045
How is this so fucking hard for you?

>>59701953
Can you explain what about systemd is not like the unix way?

>>59704106
Thanks, I get it now.

>>59704142
Feature creep, not built to be modular/compatible with other software (see shit like https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428 or https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394), breaking userspace etc.

Manjaro?

>>59704611
Unstable, over-engineered and insecure SHIT.

>>59704142

systemd although ostensibly modular, is deployed as a massive block. You either buy into it or don't. That is not so bad if it were just a tiny init system, but it brings with it a whole bunch of functionality that potentially effects user space, even down to the implementation within widget libraries for X (dbus). This is almost a fork of the userspace within linux.

As a whole, it is enormously complex.

It exists, by design, for the needs of Redhat. Their business model is to turn Unix into an appliance for business. There is no need for understanding of anything. You have a problem, you look in the manual for what command to type in, you do that and either things work or you escalate to your expensive support contract. The original unix ideas were for a simple, modular, easy to understand system with replaceable components and most things accessible as if they were a file.

SystemD tries/pretends to be a unix-like thing due to so many people bitching about it. But its design intent is something totally different.

>>59704649
>t. autist

Ask yourself how open source adoption works, and how well pushing your own garbage (upstart) worked for Canonical. systemd has adoption because it is the least bad alternative. Runit has nowhere near the feature set of systemd.

The truth is that the vast majority of users have no need for complex clusterfucks like ntp when timedatectl does it with much less. You always have the option of not using this.

Old UNIX variants (tru64, ultrix, sol7/8, irix, etc) also had a bunch of "not UNIX" shit. As does OSX. Outside of "muh 4.4 bsd" purity, systemd is nothing new here.

For the same reason as businesses run Ubuntu/RHEL/CentOS/SuSE, systemd is winning -- it's more valuable to do "real things" (applications) than sperg about low level shit that 90% of admins and 99% of users never touch and have never understood anyway. Systemd makes it easier to do productive things with Linux.

Red Hat cannot force Debian/arch/Canonical/etc to use systemd. They CHOSE it. Ask yourself why.

>>59704079
xbps allows you to build your own packages in addition to (sometimes slightly outdated popular ones). I just don't have time to create my own packages every time I want to update or install software that isn't widely used, and I don't want to play maintainer.

>>59701406
Windows 10 does not have systemd, thank god.

>>59704935
Unfortunately it comes with Windows 10.

>>59701936
They updated that story, the cosplayer is actually a chick but had her weibo profile set to male to avoid attention.

>>59703762
renata is a female name, so that pretty sums it

(no you dumb fucks, is not an androgynous name, the male form is rene)