do you run your cables through the wall or do you just lay

>having cardboard walls

>>59685811
Well I don't live in Bangladesh so i have proper wiring.

>>59685811
I chose wireless so I wouldn't have to deal with that shit

No.

I use this magic thing called wifi

Through crawlspace and up through the floor.

I use powerline adapters, they actually work great.

>>59685826
it's not cardboard

>>59685850
>"wireless"
Power supply?

>>59685811
Cable duct, have you heard of them?

I live in a country where walls aren't made of 0.25 inch thick paper

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Kinda.

My house came with plumbing for an in-wall vacuum system. I ran cat5 through it by dropping string in the holes in each room and sucking it to the garage with a shopvac.

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>>59686587
cable management fail

Run them on the floor. Only because I live with my parents and they move every ten minutes. When I get my own place I'm doing it right and putting it in the walls.

>>59685826
do you think it's cardboard because of the color?

>>59685826
ehat else do you build a wall put of smart ass?

>>59686692
>do you think it's cardboard because of the color?
no because it's 0.5cm thick and looks like you can cut a hole in it with a kitchen knife

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>>59686701

>>59686815
Dorms and prisons in America.

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>>59685811
>american walls

>>59685908
>calls everything piece of tech that connects wirelessly "wifi"
>these people frequent /g/ now

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>>59685958
>who was Tesla?

>>59686701
Brick or reinforced concrete

Only muricans make houses out of gypsum and plywood

>>59686935
And then they wonder why their houses fly away when there's a storm.

>>59686935
>reinforced
as in rebar?

>>59686935
>bricks

do you use mud too?

fucking europoors

>>59687053
>he thinks bricks and mud have the same/simmilar structural properties

American education system hard at work.

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>>59687053
>americans

>violating electrical codes

Yeah maybe when you own a house you'll understand these things.

>>59686935
what do you build your ceiling out of them?

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>>59687109
Meanwhile in the first world


>live in storm/tornado area
>build houses out of cardboard
What the burgers mean by this?

>>59687244
the good old fachwerkhaus

>>59685811
American quality construction. Even pajeet doesn't use plaster board.

>>59687162
Mins is a layer of thick cement between floors, then a space, then cement tiles, then plaster.

>>59686707
Mate do you live in the hood or something where you need to worry about shit penetrating the wall?

>>59687244
Damage depends more on the tornado itself. If it's a strong F4 or an F5 then it doesn't matter how a building is constructed, it's just gone.

American standards are the joke here.
How do they still manage to progress?

>>59687439
That's not true at all. You can build to level 5 hurricanes but it's European-quality construction and so it's expensive.

Only a few areas in the USA require this because they're so poor.

>>59687484
There's a difference between a hurricane and a tornado sweetie.

Plenty of brick houses that still put a thin frame and sheetrock in front of brick wall so your heating bill is not atrocious.

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>>59685811
through the ceiling.
the brown/grey cable is actually from circa 2005. it runs from the modem on the other side of the house to my router on the shelf. From the shelf I have another cable to my desktop.

I still don't get it.
In Europe, to build a house properly is pricey but you pay just a little more to buy it.
In USA you build a house with wood and cardboard and still cost you a life mortgage to buy it.
wtf USA

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>>59687584
>muh free market

That's what they call freedom over there.

>>59687584

Stick built homes can last centuries. There's nothing wrong with them. They're a bit easier to upgrade when new technology comes along like electricity or indoor plumbing.

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>>59687297
fachwerkhaus?
I barely even know her

>>59687790

Oh, Carlos!

>>59687752

Europeans are just pissed that they cut all of their trees down centuries ago.

I live in Earthquake country, only a fool would want a brick house.

>>59687109
>>59686815
>>59686701
you imbeciles. The frame of a house is built from wood or steel, brick goes on the outside and plasterboard goes on the inside

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>trip and hit the wall
>there is a hole in your wall now
>storm comes
>your house is gone

>>59687886

Only a fool would live in California.

>>59687891

You think a brick wall would stop a fat American if they fell on it?

>>59687914
good point

>>59685826
drywall is not cardboard you mongoloid

>>59687899
Yeah, I guess being 50 years more advanced than the rest of the country has to have some kind of downside.

>>59688464

The insulated wealthy communities in California are great, but on the whole, California resembles Mexico in more than just demographics.

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>>59685811
>2017
>walls

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>>59685811
I put my cables on the floor, wrap tinfoil around them and then put a carpet down on top of them.

>>59685811
Fucking Trumpfags >>>/pol/

>>59685811
cable? i have my fiber on the wall

>>59688665

/pol/ is kill. You can thank mook for them being here.

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>>59685811

Just finished cabling every single room with cat6a through interior walls. Need to patch and paint tomorrow.

>>59688928

You realize cat7 is coming out next month, right?

>>59688928

... you're gonna hate me, but you need to run fire-rated (plenum?) cable for in-wall installations.

>>59689027
Disregard that, I suck cocks.

>>59688991
Cat 7 is the same spec as 6a, 10g @ 100m.

>>59689027
You only need FT6 when running though plenum ceilings, not interior walls.

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>>59688991
>he doesn't already have cat.7

>>59689086
>Cat 7 is the same spec as 6a

welcome to nu/g/

>>59685953
Do you get random disconnects? Mine works well but for some reason I lose access to my internet, but not access to my router through my adapter.

>>59687584
>Europe
>cheap homes
Wtf am I reading? Oh, and we actually have toilets in all our buildings since you can actually add on to them.

>>59690188
I would also have to wonder what the fuck you're reading.
Because it doesn't seem to be that post.

>>59690358
stay salty eurpoor

hows that cultural enrichment going?

>>59690373
It's funny because we're still whiter and have less murders than the United States.
And apparently better construction workers too.

>>59690373
>the only thing amerilards can think of is "muh immigrants"
sounds like europe is a pretty damn fine place

>>59687914
>>59687927

Such salty Yurofags. Go back to blowing each other.

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I stuffed it into the wall and put tape over it

>>59692141

>Yurofags

American education, everyone!

>>59687891
More like
>mold can eat drywall
>moisture is a constant threat
>it can seep through the drywall and reach the studs, and over time the structural integrity of an entire wall can go
>remediation of mold is a huge problem
>have to install vapor barrier and utilize a non mold insulation
>HVAC needs to be able to keep every room in the house at 40% at under
>including the bathrooms and sump rooms
>bathrooms need special product to deal with moisture
>doesn't hold up over time no matter what

Construction methods for residential buildings are made to be cheap, and in a lot of cases building code forces things to stagnate. There are much better ways to build, and no simple brick houses aren't necessarily better either.

>>59692238
>be a europoor
>ride my bicycle to work
>try to hide my jealousy of Americans driving nice cars
>get pick-pocketed by a gypsy
>oh well, I get paid today
>government takes most of my money in taxes
>leave work
>a gypsy stole my bike
>fuck that's the third time this week
>wait for the bus instead
>5 hours later, come home to my tiny, shitty, 300 year old house
>sister is crying
>she was raped by a refugee again
>call her a racist for complaining about the cultural enrichment
>turn on TV
>it doesn't work
>fuck I forgot to pay my TV license
>eat my dinner of stale beans and grass
>secretly wish I could afford a hamburger
>go to bed
>have a nightmare about Vladimir Putin
>wake up at 4AM to the local mosque's call to prayer
>go on 4chan and pretend I'm better than Americans

>>59689190
>seriously not /g/nu

One job, Anon.

>>59687891
has trump put a ban on cats now?

>>59692365
>be amerilard
>waddle to my car and drive to mcdonalds
>try to hide my jealousy of Europeans not having to use vaseline and a pry bar to fit into a fucking SUV
>get shot at by niggers
>oh well, I get my neetbux today
>mcdonalds takes most of my money before taxes
>waddle out of mcdonalds
>a nigger stole my SUV
>fuck that's the third time this week
>make whale sounds so greenpeace will find me and return me to my natural habitat
>5 hours later, come to my yuuuge, shitty, cardboard house
>sister is crying
>xir was stareraped by a m*n again
>listen and believe her while complaining on my tumblr
>turn on TV
>it doesn't work
>fuck I forgot it was an american product
>eat my dinner of quarter-ton hamburger and diet coke
>secretly wish I could waddle to fridge for another hamburger
>fall asleep on the spot
>have a nightmare about working social system
>wake up at 4AM to the local bald eagle's call to freedom
>go on 4chan and pretend I'm better than everyone else

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>>59692365
>>59692715

>Being this triggered

>>59692715
gon post this to /r/4chan

>>59692715
>>make whale sounds so greenpeace will find me and return me to my natural habitat
That was pretty fucking good

>>59686701
Yuros use brick and concrete because they live in the same house for 20 generations

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>>59692715
>>make whale sounds so greenpeace will find me and return me to my natural habitat

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>>59692715
>>make whale sounds so greenpeace will find me and return me to my natural habitat

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>>59692788
include me in the screencap

>>59685811
I use flat ethernet cables under carpets, fixed with masking tape.

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>>59687890
>first world country
>makes houses out of cardboard

Americunts are actually proud of this.

>>59692865
will do fampai

>>59693024
Houses don't need to last for 700 years.

After a few decades, you probably want to level it and build a nicer one to modern standards.

>>59693061
>cardboard houses
>being "modern standard", ever

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>>59693061
>can't even afford the fucking cardboard houses
>talks about leveling one and building another

who the fuck is gonna pay for it? mommy?

Can't you go to /int/ if you want to make bad posts?

>>59693120
no u

>Retarded Europeans shit up another thread
You really showed those Americans how much better you are.

>>59693097
America is like the richest country in the world.

>>59692715
Saved hard

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>>59693162
thanks to the 1% faggots jewing everyone else on earth. Not the average wage fat ass poor motherfucker posting here from his cardboard house.
I bet you also had to pay for education and you have a huge debt on your back too. Hope not, it's already too bad to be in that hell hole.

>>59693162
>Richest country in the world.
>$18.96 trillion in debt.
Kek.

>>59693061
That's why apple thinks it's okay to solder ram and make batteries hard to replace.

>>59686631
Genius if true

>>59693463
National debt isn't like personal debt, especially since the US dollar just happens to be the currency oil is traded in.

>>59693472
But what percentage of customers actually replace or add additional RAM? 1%? 0.1%? 90% don't even know what RAM is!

>>59686631
>not just using a hamster

amateur

>>59692715

my fucking sides

>>59693061
>After a few decades, you probably want to level it and build a nicer one to modern standards.

In Europe we like houses to last for centuries.

They require renovation every 40 years, but then they are good as new.

>>59685826
>>59686707
It's called drywall and unless you live in poverty is what you use.

>>59692365
>>get pick-pocketed by a gypsy

Ironically, it's always the American tourists who get pick-pocketed.
They are too naive.

>>59693735
>having solid walls is a sign of poverty
ok

>>59693578
>90% don't even know what RAM is!
Yes they do, it's the hard drive - right?
As Mark Twain said, it's the stuff you know that ain't so that gets you into trouble.

>>59693766
Yeah. The only places built with bricks and cinderblocks are jails and schools. Terrible insulation.

>>59693791
>americans unable to combine bricks with insulation

>>59693804
Doesn't work like that sweetie. Learn a thing or two about construction, okay honey?

>>59693804

Our older buildings are built with brick, but we have a shortage of masons, so labor costs are prohibitive. The only reason you use bricks is because you have no sustainable lumber supply outside of Siberia.

>>59693826

>sweetie posting outside of /pol/

I'll let it slide this time seeing as mook ruined pol today, Amerilard.

>>59693834
Not to mention bricks are a big earthquake risk which is something many parts of America have risks of.

>>59693846
>thinking sweetieposting came from /pol/
You have to go back.

>>59693804
m8 brick goes on the outside and stud framed walls go on the inside with the insulation

THEN DRYWALL GOES OVER THAT

>>59693804
Don't be a retard.

I'm European too and live in a "brick" house.
The bricks are only on the exterior, not between rooms - that would be retarded.

And unless it's a load bearing wall, it's usually just a wooden frame with drywall on either side.
Yes, it's easy to poke through - that's a good thing in case *shock* you want to lay some cables through the wall.

>>59693847
most of buildings in central and south america are made of bricks and precast concrete and are pretty damn resistant to eartquakes...

>>59693804
Do you live in a fucking castle, retard?

Are europeans actually retarded enough to use brick for every wall in their house?

>>59685811
My house doesn't break from a 10m/s wind.

>>59693924

Chile has to rebuild every time there's a earthquake. They've finally switched to metal buildings. It's too expensive to reinforce masonry enough to withstand earthquakes.

>>59693976
A tornado would rip your house cleanly off its foundation just like any other.

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>>59693924
>pretty damn resistant to eartquakes

Are they?

I thought they had terrible earthquake damage compared to USA and Japan.

Here in the Netherlands we only have weak earthquakes caused by natural gas extraction, no serious quakes caused by natural phenomenons.
And this is what happens to our brick houses.

>>59694018
Not mine, my home can withstand any kind of tornado.

>>59694047
Do you live in a bunker?

>>59694059
Yes.

>>59694025
>caused by natural gas extraction

yup, let the environnuts tell you that.... YUP

>>59693984
Most buildings resisted the earthquakes, only the poorly built and old buildings crashed down... also, you have to take into consideration that any kind of building, no matter how strong it is, can only withstand so many 7-8 magnitude earthquakes...

>>59689901
same here
happens few times per week
can get annoying but fixes itself after like 5 minutes

>>59694095

Yes, but masonry has no give to it. Any earthquake is going to damage the structure. With wood and metal, there's some flex in the building material that allows it to withstand earthquakes and strong gusts of wind.

>>59694025
Where I live we've had earthquakes since I was born, not a single house has crashed down... we had a town disappear after a earthquake a few years ago but they issue in that case was the place where it was built

>>59694025
>>59694094
They're caused by wastewater injection, not fracking itself.

>>59686701
>try to mount something on the wall
>wall falls down

>>59694142
houses made of bricks, precast concrete and rebar are damn well resistant to earthquakes... not a single noticeable damage to the structure after several years of quakes

>>59686853
Tbh mate he probably is using WiFi and to assume he uses the term WiFi for any wireless connectivity is arrogant.

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>>59685908
Have fun downloading the 60+ gigs that is the modern AAA vidya over a spotty wifi connection.

>>59685826
>america
>place full of storms
>build houses out of drywall
>europe
>no rough nature
>houses built with concrete and bricks

fuck logik

>>59694207
three band ac wifi, 200MB/s
my internet is even only half of that

>>59693973
Glad they do, mounted some heavy speakers on the walls a month ago.

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>>59694165

I never said fracking
Just classic natural gas extraction.

And the quakes only happen in the exact area where a lot of gas gets extracted.

>>59693916
You must be living in a shitty house then.
Pretty much all proper houses are build with all walls being load bearing in Europe.

>>59694207
WiFi is faster than gigabit internet nowadays

>>59694252

You don't have partitions for your rooms?

>>59694208
Are you a builder?

>>59694269

u wot?!

>>59693826
>Doesn't work like that sweetie.
That's actually how you build proper houses.

>>59694252
No they're not.
Because that would be insanely impractical.

What if you want to create an extra bedroom?
What if you want to move the kitchen?
What if you want a bigger living room?

Good luck moving load bearing walls around.

>>59694282
They are partitioned with load bearing walls, what's so weird?

>>59694269
In theory, and maybe in an ideal lab environment without interference or obstructions. In reality, it's half duplex transmission on shared media and subject to interference by a shitload of sources.

>>59694282
>mfw europoors can't afford more than 1 room

>>59694292
Yeah man. Times have changed.

>>59694310

I don't think you understand what a load bearing wall is.

>>59694269
Only in theoretical bullshit speeds. Real world you get much less gigabit even if you're in the same room as the router, put a few walls in between you and the router and its even worse.

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Modern houses have central vacuum build into them, why don't they run networking to a central location as well?

>>59694269
In theory perhaps.

In practice you'll be lucky to get 20Mbps in the city with 9001 WiFi signals all around you.

>>59694305
They are all thick brick walls that can bear the load.
They don't have to. You can usually take a wall out if needed.

But why would you want to start creating extra shit anyways? It's well built and good, why ruin it?

>>59694318
They are load bearing, they all could be load bearing walls if they would have to, obviously you can't take away too many of them but mostly you can take down a wall and the others will just bear the rest of the load.
They are not just a frame with cardboard.

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>>59694314

>he thinks 802.11ac is actually capable of more than 300Mbps in the real world

>>59694323
It's a lot harder to plan where and how many Ethernet runs you'd need unless you're designing the house yourself.

>>59687484
>European quality
LOL, maybe 100 years ago buddy- nothing new you build is like that.

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>>59694305
are you sure you don't rather want these

>>59694312
>>59694319
>>59694328
I'm getting 160MB/s between my laptop and desktop for file transfer.

>>59694342

You have no idea what a load bearing wall is, do you?

>>59690733
And soon you'll have sharia law to make sure it stays that way.

>>59694358
They are all built as load bearing walls even when they don't have to bear a load.

Are you special?

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>>59694342
>why change things to make them better

>>59694372
We don't have niggers or muslims here luckily, people are nationalist and hostile against such mudskins.

>>59694342
>>59694373

Please stop posting.

>>59694387
Kek, logic is too much for you?
Maybe your cheap american construction has rotten your brain.

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>>59693924
Yeah if only we could be like South America

>>59694376
If it's already great, how do you make something better?

>>59694400
I'm European.

You're making a fool out of yourself and dragging the rest of us down with your uninformed nonsense.

Just stop.

>>59694411
you could learn a thing or two, if you were able to pull your head out of your ass

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>>59694342
He thinks he's people

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>America's old world trade center
>Wall composed of only drywall

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.

>>59694385
based eastern Europe?

>>59694418
Because people's needs change over time? You really can't think of a situation where someone might want to remodel a room or two?

>>59694430
How convenient.

Than what do you call a wall, that's not just a frame and gypsum/plywood, it's also not correctly having a load on it, but if you took out the wall it has a corner with, it could easily bear the load it would receive.

The wall itself is constructed like any other load bearing wall in the house, even when it's not marked in the blueprint as one.

>>59694440
It was STEEL-BEAMS/DRYWALL
or how I recently have started to call it steel-beams+drywall

>>59694487
steelwall can't dry-beams

>>59694457
It's not like you can't take down any walls at all, just that you have to know what you are doing.
Obviously it's a good thing to have the option to do so if needed.

>>59694471

It's just a well-built wall. The composition of the wall is irrelevant. A load-bearing wall is one that is critical to the structural integrity of the building. They usually run perpendicular to the rafters and floor joists.

>>59694357
Prove it.
http://www.totusoft.com/lanspeed1

>>59694487
I'd like to interject for a moment.

>>59694295
Proper houses aren't built solely out of bricks, sweetie!

/g/ - Construction

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>>59685811
Through the walls. I ran coax and ethernet to all the rooms of my house when I moved in. Have a switch up in the crawlspace above my hallway that everything is connected to.

>>59685826 (and every other 'american walls are stupid' post)
You are a fucking idiot. The drywall is on the interior and covers the insulation and studs and structural work. The structural work is still there.

>>59686935
>>59686997
>being this dumb
I'm an Eurofag and civil engineer, no amount of concrete or bricks can save a house from flying away in an american storm. So shut up.

>>59687353
Concrete not cement ffs

>>59694372
trump told you that?

>>59694411
This looks so much better to me than modern apartments. People should just build like this regardless of income and stop being so uptight and pretentious.

>>59694385
Kek
> being hostile towards shitskins when you are a shitskin yourself
Logic in Eastern Europe

>>59700112
That's true, but it depends on the tornado intensity.
They had to extend the Fujita scale in Europe because homes were sturdier and the original Fujita scale couldn't apply properly.
The Hautmont tornado back in 2008 did flatten brick and mortar homes, and that's why it was classified as EF4.
Overall, "American" homes as defined ITT will tend to get flattened at a lower tornado intensity than classic brick and mortar homes.

>>59686935
>>Only muricans make houses out of gypsum and plywood
This is such fucking horseshit and you know it, modern houses in Europe and Asia (Hell, old Japanese houses even) use thinner material too.

You stupid fucks always try to post shit like this and act smug, but you just end up looking like a fucking retard to anyone who knows anything about the modern world outside of their local bubble.

Is that the biggest thing you can brag about? Your old houses use brick and concrete? Congrats shitbrain so do older houses in the US.

Then modern society figured out they could build a perfectly sturdy house for much cheaper and they went with that.

>>59692715
>Be eurofag
>Get saved by made in America
>Proceed to shit on made in america

This why the whole make America great again shit happens some how, made in America = shit,even though it saved the world.

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where can I buy these things? it won't stay on unaided any more so I had to tape it to the wall.

annoys me every time I look at it.

>>59701273
Your local hardware store.

>>59701329

the same size? this is where my internets come in. do I have to replace the whole thing?

the bit in the middle stays put but the plastic around it does not.

>>59701350
>remove plastic around (the cover)
>bring it to hardware store
>ask clerk
>you're probably gonna have to buy the whole plug
>use only the cover and keep the rest just in case
there you go

>>59696571
true, bricks + insulation

>>59694288
Don't think so but this puzzles me too.
Amercian House Building:
> hot glue
> drywall
> nail gun

> 20mph wind comes
> house is blown away
> rebuild it with the same shitty materials

but why?!