Old environments make the most productive environmets. They are

>>59683833
If you do this you end up with the current state of Ben's desktop, a miserable pile of rice.

>>59683833
Your nostalgia if you don't reply to this post

>>59683833
But it's not flat enough.

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>>59685610
>serif font
Why? The original versions didn't use it, and it looks bad.

>>59686896
Linux?

>>59683839
your mother cries at night.

>>59688963
no... windows 7

>>59689094
How did you change Windows flag?

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>>59689105
change shellbrd.dll

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>>59686896

>>59689141
Care to share old collected icons?

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>>59689300
>>59689300

Just download a copy of Windows 95
The icons are in shell32.dll and explorer.exe

>>59683839
PLS STAHP AND DELET

>>59689185

Yo that's Massimo d'Alema, he's a communist.
Programming linux is programming communism, then you're right.

GOD DAMN I miss bitmap fonts. Fucking shit we have today is sooo blurry. I want ultra crisp pixels, FFS.

>>59689358
Why not simply upload the dll for him?
No reason to download Windows 95, installa virtual machine, install the OS only for a file you have ready.

>>59689712
Turn off Cleartype

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gotta try changing window border colors to actual colors from the IBM logo

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Half lazy half really like this way, had windows 98 for like a year when I was really young, but no internet, so I explored everything in the control panel etc...

>>59689738
where should i upload them?

>>59689806
Not the person requesting the file, but the one asking nicely for him.

I've been using https://nya.is/ since pomf got so slow in the end.

Example file I just uploaded so you can see for yourself if it's a fast enough service.

It have audio, not super loud but just so you're prepared.
https://u.nya.is/zbhvxo.webm

>>59689806
https://dropfile.to/

>>59689753
Right, but fonts designed to be used with anti-aliasing and hinting look like complete fucking SHIT with that turned off. You need actual bitmap fonts -- fonts designed ONLY for LCDs and exact pixels, to have something that doesn't look like trash.

>>59683833
name one thing you can do faster with such an outdated ui
>protip: you can't

>>59689842

https://u.nya.is/ssathw.dll
https://u.nya.is/svgcly.ex_

(renamed explorer.exe to explorer.ex_)

>>59689898
Quoting >>59689300 so he sees when he comes back.

>>59689898
Just drag and drop?

>>59689886
Not about speed, cli is for speed.

>>59689898
Save us the hassle and post the modded file plz

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Haiku/BeOS is the best

>>59689975
the files I uploaded are for extracting icons from them to use wherever you want.

if you mean the modified windows 7 shellbrd.dll that has the windows 95 start button icon then here it is:
https://u.nya.is/iespms.dll

>>59690002
why are you using this meme website

>>59690013
somebody suggested it.
seems simple enough

>>59690018
Simple and slow. 35-40kbps here

>>59690013
Because it's easy to use, is fast, is simple and doesn't require an account.

>>59690031
these are very small files

>>59683839
Are you a pedophile because macOS?

>>59690040
dropfile.to
uploadfiles.io

>>59690046
Don't justify being dial-up tier

>>59689898
Hint: To make it easier in the future, zip/7z the files and we won't have to use the shit Google call ReCatchpa.

>>59690031
Poor you.
I get around 9-12MB/s, took me like 6 seconds for this image.
https://u.nya.is/zkeyzd.jpg

>>59690096
uploadfiles.io
Had a nice size limit and also good upload speed.
I tested a 300MB zip file and it kept uploading at a steady 11MB/s

>>59685870
How do i make my environment look like this

I can't access nya.is
Could you share at https://dropfile.to/ ?

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>>59690136
It's just shit here

>>59690200
Not the person that nicely gave us the files, but here they are.
https://dropfile.to/GOM12Ss
>>59690218
try this then
https://dropfile.to/NZvxAFn it is almost 70MB after all.

>>59690243
Awesome, thanks!

yep it has nothing to do with how you haven't even used any of them in the past 15 years or that your baby duck syndrome overtook you and you simply call everything else "unproductive"

fuck off

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>>59690243
>258 seconds vs 11 seconds
Really makes you think

>like windows classic theme
>can't use it because Shadowplay refuses to record on anything except the ugly aero themes

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>>59690365
Seems your ISP doesn't like nya then.
I get decent speeds to USA from the middle of EU, and download speeds are ~50Mbps at 101ms according to speedtest.

>>59685610
>>>/a/

>>59689555
>communist
He's center-left moderate. Now go back to the bunga bunga, you fear mongering fascist.

>>59689141
How did he make it look that way?

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>>59683833

>>59690722
classic theme
microsoft sans serif font
antialiasing off
windows 95 icons

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Sad to see so many nice UIs ruined by pretentious anime faggotry in this thread.

Change your background, purge your anime garbage, and grow a pair of balls for that nice UI you've got there.

>>59691503
Sad to see so many nice posts ruined by pretentious faggots on this board.

>>59689780
Use powershell anon

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Pfft. The only truly productive "old environment" is a BASIC command prompt.

>>59691503
Where did you get the icon pack?

>>59686896
That looks pretty cool.

>>59689712
what about MacType?
maybe it is just the shitty Windows font rendering

>>59689712
But anon fonts need to look rounded and pretty so that they match my rounded and pretty UI!

>>59686896
How did you change the volume button to a classic one?

>>59693188
Well, fuck pretty and rounded UIs.

>>59693188
that might have worked 10 years ago, but you can't fool me now
commercial os's are now all flat, solid-colour, and with straight edges, only the fonts have AA

>>59693631
But anon, it's all one system on top of another, so we have systems for bitmap under systems for round under systems for square.

Welcome to the bullshittery of modern computing.

Accidentally deleted my VM that had it so I'm gonna remake my Windows 98 GNU/Linux theme. Will post if thread is still up.

>>59693814
Pretty much everything wrong with modern computing comes down to things being made more complicated than they need to be.

>>59689981
The icons are especially nice. If I remember correctly, they were designed by Susan Kare.

>>59689981
>>59694178
What more I like about Haiku, icons are vector.
They are great both in small and large resolutions.

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>>59694154
Take me back.

...I say as if I was ever there...

I mean, just stick up a bitmap font and say "that's it. One size. Fuck you. Get to work."

>>59694334
>start bar
I never knew that ricing had roots in those years.

>>59683833
what ever makes you happy.
I respect you more if you chose somthing that you like instead of going with the last meme spyware botnet flat design

>>59694334
What I don't get is how weird people get about "choice" with computers.

It's all "You can have any colour as long as its black" level of choice a lot of the time.

I'm not saying we should go back to the bad old days of DOS and BASIC, but a middle ground would be nice. A system where the choices were one that affected the running of the actual system and not merely cosmetic choices. Linux can do this, but Linux is pretty much just a toy rather than the actual concept that governs the industry.

>>59694831
>A system where the choices were one that affected the running of the actual system and not merely cosmetic choices.
Many people are afraid when program icon is gone from the desktop, and I think such kind of people make the majority of users.
So, retard-prone system is a lot better for companies than a system which you can tune up on your taste.

>>59694831
>linux doesn't count because no one uses it
that's the thing, most people don't /really/ want choice, even just picking their favourite colors and fonts is more than a lot of people care to do

just look at iDevices, pretty much as choice-less as you can make a computer before it simply becomes an appliance

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>>59694981
I think a lot of the time people look at "choice" all wrong. Who cares about pretty fonts and shiny-flat shapes, what can I DO with this machine sat in front of me. This is something even Linux is getting into now and I really dislike it. Stop trying to make KDE and GNOME compete visually with Windows and Mac and instead make a great UI that allows you to really dig deep into your system in a clean and simple manner.

Not only that, but I don't get why they push new hardware requirements when they don't profit from the sale of new hardware.

>>59695095
>make a great UI that allows you to really dig deep into your system in a clean and simple manner.
Elaborate?
You can't dig into Linux in a clean and simple manner now?

>>59695095
yea, i do know what you're talking about
thankfully there's still plenty of software for linux that isn't afraid to display all of its options, there are enough people who use linux for this to keep them going
gnome3 is a good example, compared to gnome2, they've opted to "hide away" or outright remove all but the most basic of options, making doing anything but the most basic of operations more complicated
but some people who preferred gnome2 could, and did, decide they'd keep gnome2 going, creating mate. it's one of the nice things(tm) free software allows for, if the original devs change direction, and someone doesn't like it, that someone can fork off and continue in a different direction, you can't do this with non-free software, it's deal with the new one, or deal with obsolete versions

>>59695226
>you can't do this with non-free software, it's deal with the new one, or deal with obsolete versions
(and if you want an example of that, just look at all the windows 10 threads)

There's a program called 'NegativeScreen' which allows you to set your screen to B/W or grey or any number of colour defaults, it's really decent for aiding concentration and it's especially good if you're recovering from porn, because I find that the vibrant colours of porn are actually a major aspect of my addiction at least.

>>59695132
It's hard for me to explain what I mean.

I'm not so much highlighting the possibility but rather the intention of the design.

I know you can really get in with all the text files that manage every part of the OS, but that level of hacking away isn't The Point any more. I'm one of the few people I bet who don't want a "year of the Linux desktop" because for all that has been done to work for that hasn't improved its standing in the world one bit.

>>59695277
How about YaST?

>>59695270
I need to do that. Or just get off the web in general. The web is far too consuming, both in personal time and system resources, and for both its passed the point of diminishing returns for me.

>>59695328

I can recommend a policy for you.

I created three user accounts on Windows - admin, elevated, and user. (elevated and user are just the names, they're both user-level accounts). The admin account is for installing or changing anything major. I've edited my hosts file to ban certain major porn sites, especially the ones I'm habituated to going to. So I can't edit that hosts file on either of the user accounts. I've locked myself out of the admin account, and the password is put away in a physical location which means I have to go to a reasonable effort to get in (meaning if I have a momentary urge for porn, it's frustrated long enough for me to realise it's a bad idea). The 'elevated' account has free access to the internet (except for the sites banned on the hosts list), I use this with negativescreen enabled for when I have to have complete free access to the web for say work or study. The user account is the main account I use, and I've got leechblock addon with firefox imposing an inclusive banlist - so I can only view sites that I need to (I can't even search on google). This has worked well for me.

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>>59695308
TUI YaST is proper comfy.

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This is a nice thread.

You are nice people.

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>>59695397
Not sure what the name of the style is, but I like the "graphical text interface" look.

>>59695803
>Not sure what the name of the style is
Are you talking about your picture?
Your picture is GUI with monospace font.
>>59695397
This picture is TUI.

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Windows 7 with Windows 2000 theme is so comfy

>>59683833
I already use Window Maker whenever I'm not on OS X.

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>>59692049

So comfy

why windows 10 virtual desktop are less useful and somehow less user friendly than fucking i3-wm.

Anyone know if you can use windowmaker with another window manager?

>>59690170
1. install ubuntu
2. install CDE (manual install, follow the instructions from their wiki)
3. minimal changes to some config files, I suppose

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sheeeeeet

>>59698851
You can, not sure how, but you can.

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ok.

>>59699112
Just because things are serif and ugly does not mean they are old, Ben.

>>59699112
>Fvwm
Mah nigga. I keep going back and forth between that and Window Maker

>>59697867
Truly the goat looking windows version. Any chance of making w10 look like this?

>>59690392
Aren't there Aero enabled classic themes? Look the same as classic but with v-sync and shit.

Going above 640x480 was a mistake.

Terry was right.

Prove me wrong.

>>59683833
only thing i miss in windows 7 is classic shell

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>>59683833
true, modern windows interfaces are so unimpressive they just looks like flat paper
fuck slim design i prefer ugly shit

>>59695363
what account do you use for 4chan?

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windows 10 had the potential to be comfy, but the designs can be so oddly incoherent at times.

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>>59700531
>>59700554
or extract old wallpaper with vm

>>59697867
I've been tempted several times to go through the work of downgrading to 7 just to enjoy the Classic theme again. Shame the classic theme is not GPU accelerated since Vista.

Your theory is interesting, but something like i3 still wins.

>>59699237
that's mwm though

>>59700791
no it doesn't. tiling window management is a failed concept. if you wanted true productivity you'd use a fullscreen window manager.

>>59695363
Jesus fucking Christ what kind of nightmare was your childhood?

>>59697916
You mean macOS.

>>59697867
It's Windows ME

>>59693999
Please do, and tell us what exactly what you did.

>>59683833
It always boggled my mind how old OSes did most of the functions of the current ones and being relatively good at them while only using a fraction of the power of current hardware, yet most systems nowadays not only require much better hardware and more space, they often act sluggish or become slow over time.

What happened?

>>59701551
Dementia and cherry picking happened.

Who wants to remember bad experiences?

>>59701551
The amount of resources used to support various facets of the OS have exponentially increased. Notably stuff like images and sounds. Text storage has also increased with unicode, larger fonts, and the like.

Old software also used a lot more tricks to save space which nowadays tends to overcomplicate and slow down batch operations, so stuff inevitably ends up being more "bloated" using a more straight forward codepath which uses a shit ton more memory.

Also >>59701696

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>>59701551
Short answer: Pajeets

Long answer: A whole number of things, from improvements to hardware making it not cost-effective to spend a week shaving off every byte of memory rather than throwing it out and telling people to buy more RAM (even /g/ does this cancerous behaviour). Add into that a change in how rendering is done since bitmap fonts require an absolute fraction of the resources as smoothed, sub-pixel rendered, AA fonts. This is one example, but it carried through on to everything. Telling the CPU or graphics chip to "put a box here and write something in it" is trivial even for incredibly lacking hardware (you could do it in a single line of BASIC even), but the image derived UI boarders and buttons of course all add up when the entire GUI is rendered.

>>59701696
The flaw in your argument is that there's no excuse anymore and there hasn't been for a long time. Taking a second to read the contents of a folder on a device with a 14MHz CPU is totally understandable; Windows 10 needing to pad out the load time of a calculator with an animation to try and hide the loading is not.

>>59701759
Xir, the flaw in your argument is called Windows

>>59701759
So basically... bloat?
Or just people/code not being efficient.
I mean, hardware had magnitudes of improvement, did coding just degenerate?

>>59701759
I am attempting to imagine Windows 1.0 at 1920x1080.

What levels of fuckery are we approaching?

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>>59700554
What version of Unreal Tournament is that my good friend?

>>59701871
Windows defender edition

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>>59701871
This desktop made me vomit.
Also,
>Still using fraps instead of OBS
The fuck are you DOING?

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>>59701830
I think it would work.

>>59701896
I'm comfortable with disorder, and I haven't used a wallpaper in a while, pitch black + lots of icons is comfy.

>Fraps

I barely use it, I'm not a streamer or even someone who is obsessed with specs (you'll notice most games are pretty old) and didn't even know of OBS, I'll check it out.

>>59701930
I use a dark gray background for maximum comfy level. Pure black is harsh contrast.

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>>59701939
Something like this or darker? I would have to get used to it but doesn't look so bad

>>59701830
The truth is that high resolution is a meme when it comes to UI rendering. Bitmap fonts will be infinitely clearer on an LCD display due to the pixel-perfect nature of its rendering, and the same with the old window borders that /g/ creams itself over.

"Screen real estate" is also a meme (along with large screens) because studies show that the increase in productivity comes from, not the size, but simply from looking at one source of information to another. So two 800x600 screens with a slight gap in order to mentally differentiate them as two separate sources would be just as productive as two 4K 32" monitors. The study that was done to prove this was even done on two CRT monitors, which gives you an idea of what kind of quality the interface being tested was.

The improvement in many small pixels only applies to media rendering, NOT to text and UIs. Simply having separate UIs that are loaded in depending on what the user selects (with the unselected sizes laying dormant) would be totally workable and much easier to implement and work with, for the user, the developer, and the computer itself.

>>59701871
>>59701871

It's ut99 from gog but I pirated it

>>59701896
>OBS
obs vs shadowplay?

>>59701995
oh nice

I got 2k4 legit just cause I play online (also gog)

>>59701961
I wouldn't go any darker than that, if anything, slightly lighter.

>>59690562
He is a fucking cancer, but also a madman

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>>59701969
>muh screen estate

I'd love to see a modern UI dev try and fit as much information into a 800x600 box as the designers of the past did (sometimes even 640x480 or less).

Modern UIs just seem so fat and bulky but also totally useless. YaST works better in its TUI version.

>>59700791
i3 is disgusting. cant even freely move or resize windows in it

>>59702057

I actually have 2004 legit aswell from steam

>>59702474
You can freely move windows in it, though.
It just has to be a movable window. People that use i3 specifically want to choose which windows cannot be moved.

And who needs to move windows anyway when you can just instantly teleport to other workspaces with two keys?

>>59700810
Most tiling WMs I've seen people use can be configured to only use fullscreen windows and use windows+num to choose which is displayed, so your argument fails on every level.

An entirely fullscreen WM is just the simplest tile configuration. It's essentially the same idea as tabs in a browser.

>>59702693
bullshit

>>59686896
I literally couldn't tell the difference between this and legitimate classic Windows shell.
Splendid job, anon.

>>59694178
Those are newer versions, the original ones were isometric pixel art.

Still cute though

>>59697867
That's a windows ME theme anon.....

>>59699994
this. OPENLook should have been the standard on Unix instead of CDE, too bad the opengroup had to throw a bone to the other "UNIX" and threw SUN/ATT under the bus. I knew so many unix admins that went from openwindows to gnome to keep from using CDE.

>>59701759
>Add into that a change in how rendering is done since bitmap fonts require an absolute fraction of the resources as smoothed, sub-pixel rendered, AA fonts
RISC OS managed this shit just fine on ancient hardware, this isn' an excuse.

>>59702755
What's the most recent tiling WM you've used?

>>59702792
lack of shadows under icon labels and the omnipresent font smoothing was the first giveaway.

>>59702989
windows 95 didn't have shadows under icon labels

and there is no font smoothing in this pic.

>>59702953
Ratpoison.

>>59702940
Yeah, but Acorn always had a shit load of unexplainable Magic, like how Elite uses 2K more memory than physically exists on the machine.

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Blit terminal had the best UI. And the best editor too!

>>59703063
muh dik!

>>59703046
How far we have fallen that well-made software is now considered "magic".

>>59703474
Just run TWM it came out a few years later.

Vintage 2003.

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>>59703802
Fuck. Forgot image.

>>59703815
I never knew how IRIX got around the CDE standard. I know they had a CDE desktop but it was never default. Every other UNIX had to have it default until the standard collapsed.

>>59703757
which font though?

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xfce is pretty comfy.

>>59700882
No, you piece of shit. I mean OS X.

>>59703063
I can feel my corneas imploding.

>>59691503
>#india_finger_family_d...

pajeet my son

>>59703063
What font is this?

>>59704344
Looks like fixed bold.

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enjoying my classic start button

>>59704704
That clashes terribly.

>>59689141
>Weimar Intro Final_web
do tell, anon

>>59704704
looks like shit

>>59705014
I'm writing an essay about Waldorf Education

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>tfw no Win95DE for Linux

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>>59704115
didn't you get the memo?
we macOS nao

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>>59705536
>what is FVWM95

>>59705567
10.12 may officially be called macOS but I both run 10.11 (which is still OS X, the naming isn't retroactive) and refuse to acknowledge the name change.

>>59705195
no

>>59695363
That's pretty good. I'm going to steal these ideas.

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>>59699886
True Classic theme for Windowblinds may be your best option, since it can skin UWP apps as well.
http://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/8628/

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>>59705536
XFCE4 is good enough for me.

>>59706312
Not authentic enough.
Though, I use it as well.

>>59700726
http://saarineames.deviantart.com/art/Classic-AE-2-5-3-Final-343638171

this one is, shame that Aero placement of buttons and sizing makes it look a bit weird. Works great, though.

>>59697924
Redpill me on the Altair, what can you do with it?

>>59683833
I miss old UI so much :( :( :(

>>59706987
Program in machine code and watch the lights blink

Alternatively, hook it up to a paper tape + serial terminal and run 4k basic

>>59701481
I can't get it the way I used to have it, but it's not the worst thing right now. Will keep working on it and publish. Search "imitation-dotfiles" on github sometime later today.

>>59694154
Everything wrong with modern computers is that everything is now made for mobile devices and normies.

Beige cases when???

>>59685610
The yotsuba one looks awesome

>>59690956
is that the newest AmigaOS? because holy fuck that is sexy.

>>59708114
>Workbench 3.1

>>59708154
should have been paying attention, my bad.

>>59706091
looks good, thx famalam

>>59685870
>The original versions didn't use it, and it looks bad.
They did, go check some screenshots. The Slowlaris distribution of CDE is different from the standard one in quite a few ways (and it's the best one other than that stupid fucking shit clock)

>>59702932
Hi, Stephen

>>59708494
Which stephen?

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back in my dey!

>>59709100
>I ran a shitty OS that couldn't even share an internet connection without 3rd party software.

>>59705571
with better fonts maybe

>>59705571
a security hazard

>>59683833
>Connect to the Internet
Dont click this its a gateway drug

>>59709621
>mfw the internet has ruined my fucking life

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I did.

>>59710301
Go to bed,Rob; you've already posted your shit today.

>>59704101
Icon/font/gtk theme?

>>59710589
NineIcons, Noto Sans, Mist

xfwm4 controls window decorations though.

>>59704704
>>59704704

It could be nice if it was just the windows logo and white

>>59691503
Very nice. Is that windows or linux? Where to get such icons for windows 10?

>>59683833
The first thing I do when I have to use a Windows 7 at work is disable aero and back to classic shell.

>>59710745
>Is that windows or linux?

Yes.

>>59710805
thanks

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>>59683833
T H I S

>>59711057
What is this?

>>59711069
Looks like a mock-up

>>59711090
That's pretty gay tbqh.

>>59711069
Apparently ancient text adventure game.
http://msmemorial.if-legends.org/games.htm/wonder.php

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>>59710972
TFW Steve Jobs almost bankrupts Apple after there fired him with NeXT so they took him back

>>59711069
Not them, but a British interactive fiction developer called Magnetic Scrolls made their own psuedo-UI that would go inside your actual UI.

They're pretty great, with far less "lol we just killed you" bullshit than Infocom.

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>>59711096
>it's true
Very impressive, how people could make.

>>59694667

You should see all the rice available for Amiga, its unreal.

>>59695630
*rice people

>>59711112
But it's almost exact to the tee to the old Mac OS UI.

>>59711130
British interactive fiction makers were insane. They had games for the Sinclair, released on cassette, with an image for every location in the adventure. In some cool scenes they used the layered rendering (it was in BASIC, btw) as a psuedo-Animation. I think it was one of the Level 9 releases.

Watch the interview from GET LAMP with Richard Hewison for a slice of it.

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How is this for a Win98 theme?

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>>59711176
There were different UIs for each game. This is one from a collection release.

>>59683833
how to make windows 10 look like this?

I have a 1994 ThinkPad with a monochrome display running MS DOS. Whenever I use it I just feel the urge to do work, of any kind. There's no distractions and its just beckoning me to work, gently.

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>>59711097
NeXT / OS X has the best libraries of any OS or environment, ever.

Too bad it's largely married to shit languages by Apple itself, but you can interface anything to it.

Guys, I'm going to out myself as some tech history retard here, but hear me out. Where/when/how was most of this stuff being used? I was born in 85, but to a very poor household. I didn't really get to experience computers until windows 95. There's so many systems that I've never seen anything about. Stuff like Amiga, early Mac, NeXTstep, unix, etc.

Were a lot of these systems used for niche things or what? Is there a place to learn concise history of OS's and such?

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>>59711247

Well, it's clear where they got their inspiration I think.

>>59711195
>that editor
WTF is this? I'm sure it didn't come from Sun even though its on sun hardware.

>>59711282
http://toastytech.com/guis/
http://winhistory.de/

>>59711346
Thank you anon.

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>>59711310
It's textedit, default editor on really early SunOS

>I just want to go back to the 90s xDDD
>I was born in the wrong era xDDD
>I miss my Turbo button xDDD
>I like le comfy beige boxes xDDD
>I miss Windows 95 xDDD

Is there any way I can see site activity statistics for Reddit spanning back around 2 years? I'm pretty fucking sure this place got invaded hard. All of you need to fuck off.

Is it at all possible to mimmick OSX's global taskbar on GNU/Linux? I'm thinking of either faking it and just making them regular menus.

>>59711367
Go away this was a good thread.

>>59711386
You mean menu bar? Ubuntu
Or the dock?

>>59711398
I remember KDE was able to make a globar menubar.

>>59711398
The menu bar. And unity is the worst to use. GNOME looks like the newest OSX but I mean like the top of >>59702369

Twitter BlackWellIsland

>>59711207
6/10

>>59686896
Explain, step by step

>>59683833
>Running classic theme on Vista and 7
>Worked like crazy on shit for years
>Went to Windows 10
>Stopped giving a shit

It's all true.

God how i miss the ui from win 98/2000. The one they got for win 8/8.1/ten is such a big pile of shit, bloated shit at that. Simple times then. I miss them. Back when pc's were made to be used. not all flashy "oh look at me" hype thing. A Win 98se full install would only use 500-600mb total. MS works 4.5a (all in one word processor/spreadsheet/database program) would use maybe 300mb full. Had a shit ton of built in templates to. People got shit done then using far less power/drive space/ram than a smart phone has now. Sad ain't it.

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You niggers ain't seen shit until you have a MATE theme that looks like Windows Whistler.

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>>59683833
I currently use windowmaker, it's quite nice.

>>59711474
Any ideas on how I can improve it?

>>59711761
What's this DE called again? Love this.

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>>59711791
>What's this DE called again? Love this.
Modified CDE?

How hard is it to use something like windowmaker or CDE? I want to try them out, but I'm afraid the shift in paradigm may be too much of a hurdle.

>>59711917
CDE is open source, and the Sourceforge wiki page on compiling is pretty good. Check it out, it's not too bad just a bit clunky if you're used to "modern" desktop environments.

>>59711917
WindowMaker is easy -t >>59711757
CDE was fine while I used it on my SPARC t5220.

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>>59711917
Have you used windows 3.1 before? It's pretty much like that.

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Rescued an old Emachines computer with a newer hard drive and graphics card. It looks like Windows ME, but it's actually Win98 with all the updates.

>>59711940
No... earliest windows I've used was 95. I'm familiar with quite a few linux environments though, like gnome, bspwm, i3, openbox, and xfce (which is what I currently use.)

>>59711976
They are like openbox with slightly different window controls. Most distros have prebuilt packages for windowmaker and mwm (motif window manager, like CDE but without any extra programs and the panel to launch programs)

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r8 my Windows 3.1 dosbox

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>>59712429
not bad

>>59712442
Where to find more tiles like your pic?

>>59712486
1. old Windows
2. old linux DEs/WMs like CDE

>>59711806
>>59711791
>What's this DE called again? Love this.
It was HP-Vue the precursor to the CDE initiative.

Why is there no a e s t h e t i c linux distro with retro window managers preinstalled?

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>>59712684

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We missed out, ST84 should have been the universal UI / OS / IDE / language. A little too early.

>>59712684
Because making a distro just for that is retarded as fuck. Just install whatever enviroment you want on the distro of your choice.

>>59712684
There was CDEbian (open source CDE and debian) but it went defunct. That should answer your question that it's not wanted.

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>>59712684
Why don't you run ancient Unix? There are all types available, from Xenix for Intel, to ancient SunOS, to whatever you like, emulated or on actual hardware.

Why not run IBM's System 360 on Hercules and interact with it via a variety of different retro terminals?

Or just use Windowmaker instead of a (((desktop environment))) for comfy Nextstep feel.

I'd seriously use CDE if they had a wireless networking widget that worked with networkmanager. Wicd requires dbus and wpa_cli is waaay to complicated to be usable.

>>59712798
Can't you just use something like this
http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/
and networkmanager

>>59683848
Ben?

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>>59712878
Lurk moar

>>59712894
Not everyone bothers with desktop threads. Actually I think it's safe to say most don't. I've been here for 7 years and had no clue who Ben was

>>59712878
some pedofile faggot who keeps spamming his desktop in unrelated threads

>>59712926
I just assumed anyone in a thread largely dedicated to old OS UI's would have some possible desktop thread overlap. Also, you fucking asked sperglord, so get off your high horse.

>>59712948
Examples?

>>59712960
>Also, you fucking asked sperglord, so get off your high horse.
No I fucking didn't

>>59712878
Then what are you doing with this post?

Actually I don't even care. Fuck you and this conversation.

>>59713004
That wasn't me. Believe it or not, there's more than one person itt

>>59713004
>>59712960
as you can see ben also gets upset when people don't recognize his cartoon child porn spamming. sad!

>>59712894
is this what you wanted to happen in your life?

>>59712894
what does your girlfriend think about your desktop

>>59713027
Ben doesn't curse that I can tell. Also I'm here like 12+ hours a day. He doesn't really spam either.

>>59713044
>>59713057
Not Ben dudes.

>>59713026
Then why respond? My mistake I guess.

>>59713069
>Then why respond?
Didn't realize it was a private conversation. Why're you doing that on a public imageboard?

>>59713085
It's not. I just assumed the person responding would be relevant to the conversation somehow...

>>59713100
It was a relevant response to the conversation
>lurk moar
>that doesn't necessarily help

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>>59713113
How about I'm sorry? Are you going to be okay?

>>59713129
Why are you assuming I'm upset or something? It simply seemed like you were confused so I explained it. Sorry for trying to cater to your mental illness.

>>59713147
I mean you're being a little rude tbqh homie. I can only make assumptions here...

>>59711738
>Whistler Watercolor decorator
>Win9x icons
>Win9x theme
>Window shadows
>Two-panel classic Gnome/MATE layout
>Desktop icons larger than 32px

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>59713217
:^)

>>59711818
>Unity of early 90s

>>59711890
>OSX with OS9 UI
HNNNNGGGGGGGG

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>>59686896
>not using iframes

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>CTRL+F
>No QNX

the fuck?

>>59713254
Sorry, forgot about OS/2 Warp background
REHEHHEHEHEHEEEEEEE

>>59713328
>caring about embedded OS's.

>>59713379
>aeshtetic OS doesn't belong in an aesthetic OS thread

>>59713393
>aesthetic os thread
No, this is an old OS thread and how they were more productive. How are you more productive in an embedded OS rather than a general purpose OS?

>>59713417
The OS may not be of much use but the DE would be on another system

>>59711362
i love how this image blinks when i scroll down

It's neat how little Linux has changed from some of these.

>>59713328
i know it might be a long shot but does anybody here have a qnx icon pack?

i've been looking for ages.

>>59701551
i'd argue it's down to just a few basic things;
diminishing returns
disproportionate expectations
vastly different usage scenarios

if you were to do something as simple as edit a word document in windows 95 when it was new, you would expect things like a few minutes to boot, windows that draw so slowly you can see each basic element being drawn, and things like scrolling to be sluggish
and you would not expect to be able to run much more at the same time, multitasking was still pretty crappy, and people didn't use computers for everything, so one or two things at a time was fine

fast forward to now, people expect <10 second boots, windows that display a split second after request, fully-formed, smooth, tear-free scrolling, and for that to stay true with 50 different things running

as for diminishing returns, many seemingly small enhancements take disproportionately more resources to pull off than it would seem
like going from bitmap to truetype fonts, doesn't seem like all that much if you don't understand how they're drawn

>>59712878
Aye.

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>>59713920
>>59701551

average user will probably never need anything that isn't included in office 95.

>>59714290
i don't disagree with that

i used office '97 in college (up to 2005), nobody cared, it was plenty

>>59714290
this is usually the case for me but having more than 3 maximum conditional formatting rules in excel is pretty useful for making something presentable

>>59714290
even just that basic document shows off two things which seem small but are much easier on the cpu for the '95 one
- the text backdrop is not using true transparency, just a simple pattern of transparent dots
- the image uses point scaling instead of linear or better scaling (point scaling also has the advantage of not affecting the image palette, something which was relevent in 1995)

>>59714386
VBA

>>59714439
-- looking closer it seems that backdrop isn't using transparent dots, just two different colors
either way, the described fake transparency is a thing that was used back then