>software absent on Linux that keeps you from switching to

adobe
ms office

>>59679520
>Outdated video player reliant on proprietary APIs
>Shitty, proprietary music player for autists
Literally who cares?

Thumbnails in file picker.

>>59679520
gaymes

>not running Windows in a virtual machine

>>59679544
>proprietary
now try again without memeing

>>59679596
>not running Linux in a virtual machine so you have an actual working host OS

>>59679643
What? It's a completely accurate thing to say.

>>59679520
The Foobar fandom is beyond me.

>>59679520
>>59679665
What sets foobar2k aside from other music players? Genuinely curious, I used it years ago in my Windows days but aside from just liking the interface, I didn't see anything special about it.

I use Foobnix in Linux now, which looks a lot like foobar2k, but only because I like the look of the interface and the global hotkeys, not really for any specific features.

>>59679553
what is thunar

>>59679520
AutoCAD
ArchiCAD
Adobe Suite
Gaymes

>>59679703
performance, technical straightforwardness, lightweight customization, control over features

>>59679707
A file manager.

>>59679718
>performance
We talk about a fucking music player.

>>59679707
useless

>>59679745
Good opinion

>>59679745
Your post is useless

>>59679777
your dick is useless

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>>59679520
I primarily use linux. I don't often need Windows but I keep a partition around for those few times I do.
>>59679553
You were saying?

>>59679811
WHY is no one using Qt

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>>59679777
Praise the kek

>>59679741
So?

>>59679544
Any better alternatives?

>>59679811
gimme ur pics

Been using Linux this past week as my 'le daily driver'

To be honest, the only program I really miss is ShareX - I realize there are some alternatives, but ShareX is really well polished and has basically everything I need.

For now I'm using lightscreen, which is bleh

>>59679811
>autistically naming your gay reaction images
I believe you.

>>59679871
Nothing, just autistic excuses doesn't make any sense. It's ok as i have deadbeef, but only used on bsd.

>>59679900
Makes finding them easier.
>>59679876
https://mega.nz/#!vAhB2KaQ!xLlHc5kf3tIMoxobZIwpehy8mPh9-p2RDwGEql8YEnQ

>>59679745
what's better?

>>59679643
do you really feel safe running software on your computer that could be doing all sorts of things you don't know about?

>>59679647
Windows can't do stuff like PCI-passthrough, though. It is objectively the worst bare-metal OS.

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>>59679924

>>59679520
Visual studio and the office suit, really like onenote and i don't know if there's an alternative to outlook with all the features.

>>59679520
>mpv
>mpd

>>59679520
>99.9% of Steam's catalog
>Overwatch
>Sonic: After the Sequel
>Windows 10 Store (Halo 5 Forge and Halo 6)
>GameMaker Studio
>Unreal Engine 4
>Adobe Photoshop
>MS Paint
>foobar2000
>Notepad
>Notepad++
>Internet Explorer (My preferred method of downloading Firefox)

>>59679520
Literally all CAD/CAM

>>59680047
>Unreal Engine 4
The editor doesn't compile on linux or is it too unstable?

>>59679873
smplayer. Performs better than mpc and it just works out of the box

>>59680109
>performs better than mpc
what is your definition of performance? MPC never gave me trouble when watching movies and animu

>>59680075
I think you're supposed to work in Windows and then output to Linux.

>>59679650
>>59679948
>feels unsafe running closed source software
>uses a web browser which has freedom to run any code it pleases

>>59679948
>that could be doing all sorts of things you don't know about?
like what?

>>59680129
>>59680109
So mpv or mpc? I'm using mpv right now for how quick and simple it is but I wouldn't mind switching if mpc could play more types of files and looked just as minimal and ran faster.

>>59680075
>>59680133
ok I'm stupid, it looks like Unreal does run on linux fairly well, I must have read something wrong

>>59679544
hey don't hate on foobar

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>>59679520
>Archicad
>Illustrator
>some gaymes

>>59679560
You can play touhou on wine.

Visual Studio
Adobe Suite
Proper drivers
hum... Dark Souls

>>59679520
I run Windows in a VM, Ubuntu bare metal.
Windows just doesn't cut it for me as a daily driver, hell, it even lacks tabbed file manager.

ubuntu would absolutely suit my needs of only adobe ran on it

>>59679811
>filename on the right

terrible

>>59680147
In a sandbox. Admittedly, one with frequent vulnerabilities, but still.

>>59679520
>what is wine

>>59679741

It takes deadbeef 15 fucking god damn minutes to scan my music library when I add new stuff. It takes foobar2000 seconds and it keeps itself updated automatically.

>>59681081
I will admit foobar does pretty good on wine, it didn't on my mac until I did a ram upgrade from 4gb -> 8gb dual channel. still takes more processor power than it should though.

Visual studio is the big one

Actual video drivers from Nvidia

That's it really

>>59680154
collecting your info, compromising your system's security, using system resources for nefarious purposes such as mining crypto currencies in the background or being part of a botnet

>>59680456
freecad
inkscape
different games

>>59680541
>Proper drivers
lol

driver support is often better on gnu than it is on windows in my experience. for example, support for the wii u pro controller is built in to the kernel and just works. on windows you need the toshiba bluetooth stack and a compatible dongle and/or to add your HID and use testing mode, which only works for 30 days

>>59679520
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59681111
That sounds like an actual serious issue. Not actually sure what you mean by scanning your music library, I think I manually added folders to deadbeef when I used it. However, since using mpd+ncmpcpp, I can just hit a key to update my list of directories if I downloaded something new, and adding one to a playlist is instant.

>>59681272
The Toshiba thing is obsolete. And you know what that anon meant you fucking nigger. Shit like popular gpus, wifi dongles, etc don't work half the time or require the user to jump into the cli

>>59681532
>And you know what that anon meant you fucking nigger.
Nope. Please stop assuming.

>Shit like popular gpus, wifi dongles, etc don't work half the time or require the user to jump into the cli
Not true.

A driver is a driver, whether it's for a GPU or a controller. I've never gone out of my way to buy well-supported hardware, and I've never had hardware support issues on GNU/Linux. I definitely have on Windows, though. Generally onboard ethernet drivers after a fresh install, sometimes also audio or wifi. I've never ran into those problems on GNU/Linux.

>>59681261
>freecad
Not even close, m8. Archicad is a BIM, with CAD+3D+Render (with Cinema4D engine)+a lot of other stuff in it. Freecad now is not a good alternative even with fucking autocad, because it doesn't open some files/formats.

>inscape
Fair enough, it's pretty good. I use it every now and then. The problem is that it lacks the possibility to modify a multiple-pages pdf without having to save the modified page separately.

>different games
If I can, sure. But sometimes you would like to play those ones.

>>59681573
>Not even close, m8.
Ah, okay. I don't use any of those sorts of programs.

>If I can, sure. But sometimes you would like to play those ones.

Definitely, but just having something to pass the time is the important part. When I first stopped using Windows, Steam wasn't quite out on GNU/Linux yet. I got by playing Minecraft for the most part, but it was a blast and I don't regret anything. Nowadays I can play stuff like Rust and CS:GO. I'd play something like Fallout 3 or Skyrim if they got ported, but I don't care enough to use Wine or a VM to play them.

>>59681546
>Ethernet driver issues
At least post real issues anon. We aren't using XP anymore Christ

10 even had my wireless drivers and gpu drivers auto install properly without me having to touch the pc

>>59681602
You can do that in linux too, depending on the GPU and repo. They of course can't ship the proprietary drivers with the system but you can set it up with the installer if you feel like it. Biggest problem is windows simply not having drivers for older devices cause nobody wrote them for new versions.

>>59679520
gaymes, office, mpchc

>>59679520
You posted them. If Linux had anything even half as good as MPC-HC with KCP I would use it full time, but it doesn't so I end up spending most of my time on Windows. Fuck me for wanting a high-quality, logical video player and not some GUI-less autismo shit that doesn't even look as good.

>>59681642
mpv and any of the numerous mpv frontends. Enjoy.

>>59681682
>mpv
Garbage for people with autism, doesn't look as good as MPC-HC.
>any of the numerous mpv frontends
All garbage as well, lol. I tried out baka-mplayer earlier and it literally closed itself every time I tried to input a command with a video playing.

>>59681713
>people with autism
>doesn't look as good
>Baka-mplayer
Okay did you try the legitimately MPC-HC clone based on libmpv?

>>59679520
easy68k made me switch to windows. It works for everyone else on wine, but me.

>>59679960
WS2016 hyper-v can do pcie passthrough

>>59681591
>Definitely, but just having something to pass the time is the important part.
That's true, I'm playing Hotline Miami on Ubuntu those days, after all. The point is that if I had more free time to play, everything else worked on Linux and I had an already payed Windows license I would probably leave a "for-games-partition" for when Wine would not work, be too slow or whatever. But that's probably because of that bullshit thing of starting wanting to do a thing just because in that moment I can't/shouldn't that I have.

>>59679873
smplayer, mplayer2 for video.

Audacious DESTROYS Foobar in terms of audio quality and plugins. Layout design isn't as customizable.

>>59681739
No, because I might as well use the real MPC-HC in a VM lmao. Video playback sucks dick on Linux, and meme player /v/ is unusable trash.

>>59679873
mpv
mpd+ncmpcpp

>>59681791
Wow you sure stuck it to those autists with your counter-autism and bullshit alright.

>>59681791
>Video playback sucks dick on Linux
Obviously you're wrong, but what I want to know is why on earth you think this.

>>59679811
Anon you should share those reaction pics

>>59681822
I did anon, it's linked here >>59679924.

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>>59680047
>99.9% of Steam's catalog

Yes.

>Overwatch

Yes.

>Sonic: After the Sequel

This looks cool.

>Windows 10 Store (Halo 5 Forge and Halo 6)

I like Halo on console more.

>GameMaker Studio

True.

>Unreal Engine 4

This is on Linux.

>Adobe Photoshop

GIMP covers most of this with plugins and tweaking, but it still lacks some features.

>MS Paint

Pinta, kolourpaint, gnome paint, etc.

>foobar2000

I prefer Audacious.

>Notepad

Mousepad, Leafpad, Gedit, etc.

>Notepad++

Geany, though Notepad++ is still awesome. NotepadQQ is good from what I hear.

>Internet Explorer (My preferred method of downloading Firefox)

I think a lot of major distros come with Firefox installed out of the box.

Ultimately Overwatch and the Steam catalog are the ones I would definitely miss most. Maybe Photoshop.

>>59679520
Clip Studio Paint.

I just cannot get used to Krita, the way custom brush settings and presets are managed rub me the wrong way.

>>59681810
>Use Linux
>try to watch videos
>it fucking sucks and doesn't even work
>"GEE WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS OPINION FROM"
Sorry kid, but it's the truth. Linux is unusable for media playback.

>>59681893
>>59680047
It's more like 60% of the Steam catalog, though like 99% of the catalog is trash, still plenty of games native or wine-able.

>>59681947
>fucking sucks
>getting worse
>opinions
>better answer with more opinions and sperg rage

>>59681947
Wait, like actually doesn't play at all? Because then you clearly have a more major issue. You're making it sound like you've taken side-by-side recordings of media playback on each and noticed a slight difference. You not being able to use a computer doesn't really mean anything.

>>59681947

mpv filename/url

wow that was hard

>>59681947
>Debian user detected

>>59679873
Deadbeef

>>59680484
This and only this.
Wine and garbage passthrough are not an viable option.

>>59682003
>garbage passthrough
>literally the same GPU in the same operating system
I honestly don't know what your problem is but it's definitely in your head.

Also your personality. Probly your hygiene.

>>59679520
You're fucking retarded. Mvp solves your problem.

>>59679741
no other music player handles my 1TB music collections as fast as foobar, it also is the best music library.

>>59679520

Autocad
Revit
Archicad

Program that would do BIM.

>>59682089
Yep, most of the CAD stuff is pretty locked down by licenses anyway so you'll never be able to import those things anywhere else. Solidworks has a linux version, or something using their core lib.

Dunno what does BIM if anything.

>>59681966
>YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE A COMPUTER!
>set everything else up no problem, fix the sound bugs, etc
>video player literally closes itself with no explanation whenever you try to use any command and doesn't even save the file in recent files
>does this for dozens of video files
>IT'S YOUR FAULT
Sure thing, kid.
>>59681980
>YOU CAN'T USE THIS OPERATING SYSTEM IF YOU WANT TO WATCH VIDEOS ON YOUR DESKTOP IN 2017, WHAT ARE YOU RETARDED?!??
Average Lincuck ladies and gentlemen.

>>59682122
I guarantee that it is 100% your own damn fault. Nobody will ever want to help you though because you are awful.

>>59681258
Forgot to take your meds again, Richard?

>>59679811
Good god those pics are cringe worthy

>>59682173
>Stop liking things I don't like.

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>>59682112

I think only one linux alternative. Briscad.

Not sure about the function because I'm too used to revit.

>>59682179
You're free to like them, and I'm free to point out how terrible I feel your taste is. I'm also free to point out that, in my opinion, a grown man who likes shit like that has a strong probability of mental illness, and cannot be trusted.

Now that's freedom, GNUboi

Every fucking one that actually makes you productive.

>>59682208
For other cad stuff I think the best solution is OpenSCAD which is a scripted modeling program which... is just fantastic. If the Linux types can do one thing right it's design something that takes an entire programming language to describe.

>>59679873

mpv and mocp

>>59679709
This and Civil3D, Solidworks, and Revit

>>59679520
Visual Studio
SSMS
Power BI Desktop
Outlook
Excel
Skype for Business
A myriad of line-of-business applications that are specific to my line of work.

I use all of these every day at work, and the alternatives on Linux are either nonexistent or really, really shitty.

>>59679811
how do I make firefox use qt

>>59682213
So you think you are in the right when you're use of language consists of that of Twitter dindu's and attempting to be a chad? Perhaps it's time to stop trying to put others down and ridicule and learn that other may like things you don't and there's nothing wrong with that. It's time for you to grow up.

>>59679631
One of the best posts ITT.

>>59682225
I could have sworn solidworks had something linux native.

>>59682250
You don't really make all of it use Qt, there's some KDE patches that might be opensuse-specific. I'm not sure, but my file picker is Qt.

>>59679882
>but ShareX is really well polished and has basically everything I need
While I use ShareX and I think it's great, the code is pretty spaghetti and the dev, Jaex, is a fucking dick who barely speaks english.

>>59682154
>install a program
>open a video file
>it starts playing
>dare to touch any key or use the mouse
>it instantly vanishes
>IT'S YOUR FAULT!!!
I don't want anyone to help me, lol. I'm using an OS that actually lets me watch videos in high quality with no problems.

>>59681893
>I like Halo on console more.
Well, then your opinion is objectively a bad one.

Any game that is available on PC has two major advantages: better graphics, and more options for controls. The key here being that KB/M is objectively superior for shooters, but you're also welcome to continue using your Xbox controller if you'd like.

I applaud you for being honest about everything else, though, rather than memeing about every item.

Ah good office suite with EndNote integration
The Adobe suite
Originlab

>>59682289
Its your fault, especially since there's a MPC-HC clone that also works and seems to be your preference anyway.

>>59681258
You can record all the thing any application does with the help of perfmon and procmon, if you wish to doubt anything.

>>59682309
>It's your fault for using the wrong distro!
>It's your fault for using the wrong program even though I said any of them would work!
>It's your fault the software is buggy shit!
Wew lad.

>>59682274
From research, there are only alternatives to Solidworks for Linux, which means just about nothing in the real working world

>>59682320
>>59682289
>>59682309

Linux proponents in a nutshell.

If you have an issue, it's your fault and you should be better at computers or spend the time to learn the OS.

Now, here's the thing: it's exactly right. Me not figuring how the commands I'm supposed to type into bash to make this shit work is actually my fault.

At the end of the day, though, I don't care to learn what I need to type into bash. I'll stick with my nonfree OS that just works, thank you very much.

>>59682254
Whether I'm in the right or not is irrelevant, it's my opinion and I'm free to share it. I also find it ironic that you call me out for criticising your taste in images, yet you use derogatory names for blacks and, well, I don't even know what a Chad is, I think a normal, mentally stable dude with friends? You wanna judge people for something they don't even choose but get all pissy when called out for being a child in a man's body. Can't have it both ways, buddy

Ableton Live
After Effects

>>59682320
Its called PEBKAC and you just exude it. Nothing to do with distros. They all work individually, one is literally a clone of your favorite thing in the world. None of them will work for you because you are that bad at everything. I bet your parents thought you were good at computers.

>>59682366
I'm happy to help with issues but I'm not going to help him, specifically.

>>59682330
>>59682225
CityEngine looks pretty neat, dunno if it's good though cause not a CAD'er.

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>>59682370

>>59682391
That's some epic L337 H4X0R slang dude, but the problem is not me. I could sit anyone on Earth down in front of the computer and see if they could get a video to play without immediately taking your hands off of the keyboard and mouse and leaving it in a window. It's just fucking garbage. MPC-HC, with the Kawaii Codec Pack, on Windows 7, just fucking werks. Neither have been updated in years and it's still leagues above any trash on Linux.

>>59682391
>cause not a CAD'er.
basically, if it doesnt have every single component that any actual CAD software has AND can read and save within the proprietary file formats of CAD, then it is useless
There is a lot more to professional software alternatives, especially when using it as a source of income, t. Civil Engineering draftsman

>>59682456
Oh it was Siemens NX that was on Nix. I actually did some solidworks for prototyping once in school but like.... no idea what that means in professional stuff. Funnily enough I do use blender in production (but not for 3d)

>>59679520
Visual Studio.

Once VS Code surpasses it for my needs I'll switch. I also need Unity (The game engine) for work.

>>59682550
It's on linux though.

>>59682550
Oh, I guess newer versions are garbage'd on wine. Nevermind that.

>>59682577
>>59682590
Unity does have a linux version but VS Code is still not up to par with Visual Studio with VAX or Resharper.

>>59682744
I knew VS Code was there but I was thinking VS Express or something in wine that worked before. Still going to
>13% CPU while blinking cursor
at you though.

>>59679520
Promodel (no comparable Linux alternative)
FL Studio (I want to like LMMS, but this is just a hobby and all the good tutorials are in proprietary crap)
Foobar2k (I'm starting to like what I've read about Linux alternatives, so I'm not too attached to this)
MS Office (the quality of Linux alternatives are just not there yet, and they mess up the formatting, etc. when converting file formats)
MPC (I've heard good things about MPV, but also people complaining about configurations and shit, so not really sure)

>>59683266
Video players have got you covered, don't worry about that. mpv is amazing but there's plenty of frontends for you to choose from.
> https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt
There is an endless supply of possible audio players too so doubtless something will work for you.

I've never seen any Libreoffice conversion issues in the past several years, but even windows office supports open document stuff without conversion at all.

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>>59682366
>>59682436
>>59682577
>>59682744
>>59683266

>>59679520
About stuff I know/I'm learning and use at minimum 6 hours per month, or have used previously.
>Some Adobe shit (AE, Premiere, Photoshop, Illustrator)
>Some Autodesk shit (3DSMax/MotionBuilder)
>Some Foundry shit (Nuke and probably going to try Modo)
>Allegorhythmic shit
>Houdini (Learning)
>Zbrush
>Clip Studio
>Most gamingshit
>Visual Studio (It may be a botnet but it's easily the best windows IDE out there for C# shit)
>Unreal Engine 4/Unity

>>59683333
Congratulations on your quads. A lot of the Adobeshit competitors are really really coming along in linux, not just bullshitting. Hell, blender can handle most of it alone if you can break through the learning curve but there are other tools too. Not sure about which effects they've got available but there's a good number of them and growing. Not really sure about 3d things, I'm sure they probly exist. Maya.

Art stuff's coming along but not my area, inkscape/krita/etc.

>>59683374
>A lot of the Adobeshit competitors are really really coming along in linux, not just bullshitting.
I've noticed that too, but I feel the real change wont happen unless they see a real marked over there.

>blender can handle most of it alone
Blender is just the photoshop of 3D (as in blender being a jack of all trades, free being a HUGE plus) except it's in an area of CGI where specialization is the key for success, that's why you hear people praising Maya for its animation tools, Houdini FX for VFX (which is amazing), Substance/Mari for texturing, Zbrush for sculpting (It has some weird ass design choices and workarrounds but it does not have as many RAM issues as Mudbox) and 3Ds Max for most basic modeling, vidya character modeling and arch. rendering because muh V-RAY. Of course, with all this I'm not saying that Blender is bad software (hindered a bit by shitty GUI and clunky shortcuts) but rather the other way, it's the best example of what freeware software should be, and it has so much usable stuff for people that lack the income can't acquire software and sure, Autodesk may have become """cheaper""" to have but if you check how much you spend for their stuff you end paying so much it isn't worth at all unless its your company the one paying for the software.

On the 2D side, Photoshop is still the king for the only reason that it is a jack of all trades in an area where specialization in software is not needed. Texturing (Quixel)? Photoshop. Edit Photos? Photoshop. Concept art, photobashing, illustration or anything else? Photoshop. Doesn't help at all that most decent software that competes directly with it for digital painting has to be purchased and that the freeware alternative GIMP is an absolute turd to use for anything.

On video related stuff I have mostly no idea of what happens but I noticed most serious producers are moving from Adobe's After/Premiere to Foundry's NUKE or BMD's Fusion. And I know no free/linux alternatives.

>>59683582
Blender really is jack of all trades kinda deal but in terms of NLE and node based compositing it's really not far behind on those tools alone. Having 3D/2D capabilities... without going into CGI at all is stupid powerful too. I don't do a lot of VFX stuff (and no 3D) but I know there's a lot of openFX stuff available for any system. Natron looked neat as a Nuke-clone, haven't heard much from them lately.

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>>59681272
wtf

For starters, Linux has no drivers. The drivers it has and the "jsut werks out of the box" is a meme. The better it does, is providing basic functionality.
The moment you install the proper drivers on Windows you will get better functionality and the device working like it's supposed to.
Source: my Midi Keyboard and my Steelseries peripherals.

Because no one even develops drivers for linux so if you want to use some shady device you're fucked.

>>59682122
>>video player literally closes itself with no explanation whenever you try to use any command and doesn't even save the file in recent files
Open it in a terminal and check the error dude. I do not have that problem.

>>59684489
>midi keyboard
okay, I imagine you need some sort of DAW to get use out of this in the first place, so out-of-the-box doesn't really apply here.

>Steelseries peripherals
Odd... Like a keyboard and mouse? I'm guessing since it's "gamer" stuff it's some sort of meme software to control lights and macros that you're talking about and not just that they don't work.

Have you had any issues with built-in hardware? That's kind of what we're discussing here. Stuff like your NIC and such. I've never had any issues with that sort of stuff.

>>59679520
Please update your deprecated winxp system.
For people who care, you should use dopamine as music player, it's a musicbee++ and it's fully opensource. Mpc-hc and directshow are dead now because Microsoft doesn't give a shit about it anymore, so use mpv.

There isn't any

>>59684747
>you should use dopamine as music player

Looks like shit

>>59679867
Does this exist as an actual card deck you can buy?

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>software absent on Linux that keeps you from switching to Linux full time.

>>59679520
>games
>directx 12
>Microsoft office
>every proprietary software
>etc.
Some people need a computer where they can get their work done.

>>59685274
>Linux has no proprietary software
ebin

>>59681261
what >>59681573 said about freecad. You just cant use it on any sort of project where you have to share files because it just doesn't open [or doesn't open them correctly] all the formats you need

>>59679948
See, when I think about this I associate to insecurity. You (somehow) manage to get a girlfriend, maybe not even fuck her, but you're so obsessed about her having sex with someone else behind your back, that you don't ever do anything without her by your side. If you need to go to a restroom you take her with you and you check all bathrooms just in case there's some guy that might put his dick inside her mouth accidentally.

>>59685274
How many games do you have that use DX12?

>>59679520
Visual C++

It's not the software so much as the screen tearing.

I've tried the commonly described fixes but it's still really bad. When scrolling or playing back video there is visible tearing, it's pure eye cancer.

>>59679520
I'm already a full-time Linux user, both at work and at home. However, the software I could imagine people missing when making the switch would be

Adobe Creative Suite
MS Office

Hmmm... come to think of it, I don't seem to miss a lot... I've managed to find decent alternatives to the stuff above (I'm not a professional graphics designer or video producer, mind you) so the only sticking point for me now is fucking games. The fact that Steam at least acknowledge the existence of Linux and developments in the Vulkan API allow me to be a bit more optimistic than what I used to but there's still an awful lot of ground to cover, especially the graphics driver and graphics stack situation: mesa, AMD's shitty drivers, nouveau, Nvidia's proprietary shit, this mess needs sorting out.

Console SDKs.

>>59679703
name another music player with:
>replay gain scanner
>converter
>freedb tagger
>accuraterip
>good tagging system
>embedded cue support
>File Operations

i'll wait

>>59685709
Yep. Both Windows and macOS, being vastly different, have had no trouble with this for ages now.

Solidworks / Autocad
Only this.

>>59684489
>No one develops drivers for Linux!

Yeah, except for any company trying to create drivers for Chromebooks, which just happen to be some of the best selling laptops on the market.

>>59679589
this
why no megui on linux
handbrake a shit

>>59684489
>For starters, Linux has no drivers. The drivers it has and the "jsut werks out of the box" is a meme.

That's just a lie. This is Linux 4.10 release notes, scroll down to section 12. DRIVERS.

https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges

>>59679867
>>>/reddit/

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Every time I use Linux

>>59681893
>STOP

TYPING

>LIKE

THIS

>YOU

FUCKING

>IDIOT

>>59682225
and freeCAD <3

>>59680856
Same here. I had to switch back to Windows for premiere.

>>59679811
>Anime/manga reaction faces
>Linux
For some reason I'm not surprised

Mostly Ableton Live, maybe I could get it to work or find alternatives but I don't care that much

>>59681893
>Mousepad, Leafpad, Gedit, etc.
They're all fucking garbage. None of them can even fucking replicate the incredibly basic functionality and many flaws of notepad.exe, and don't get me started on Notepad++ replacements: Geany is garbage, Scite is already much closer, but none of them are good enough. Unless you go full emacs or vim you can't get a functional replacement.

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>>59679520
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59687369
>functional replacement for notepad
They all are, unless you're talking notepad++ which is not particularly simple.

>>59687423
this.

>>59687436
No, I am talking about Microsoft notepad.exe. There is so much it does that nix alternatives don't do. Whether it's familiar shortcuts, proper tool windows, a file browser that allows file operations, basic ctrl+arrows word skipping, home/end behavior on wrapped text... or even this so fucking handy F5 "insert date" shortcut, it's all so many little details that the average gedit/kedit/nedit cannot get right.

>>59687369
n++ works with wine.

>>59687529
My computer works with Windows.

>>59687506
leafpad is dead on notepad.exe you fucking pleb

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>software present on Linux that tempts you to switch from Windows full time.

Is there even a single one?

AutoCAD and Photoshop.

>>59687552
Is see you're not using those enough to realize how different they are. Yes, it can display and edit text, yes it does the job, but then there's a ton of other differences that makes some easy and practical, and the others a chore.

>>59682036
Definitely not, games through wine run way slower.

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>>59687556

>>59687580
https://download.gimp.org/mirror/pub/gimp/v2.8/windows/gimp-2.8.20-setup.exe

>>59687556
bash

>>59687591
using gimp on win****s is like man anal; possible but turbo gay.

>>59685709
Wayland shouldn't tear. GNOME uses it by default now.

>>59687556
gnome

>>59687556
A decent shell

>>59687605
https://www.cygwin.com/
>>59687630
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerShell

>>59686959
cuz its 4chan?

>>59687641
>https://www.cygwin.com/
Massive pile of shit.

>>59687610
Using gimp is turbo gay already, why the fuck would you want to use this when there's Photoshop?

>>59680129
Video seeking is one example. It's instant with mpv. You can even drag the video play bar left and right and it will instantly update.
Doing this on mpc is very slow. It's a small thing but contributes to one of the things that makes it unecessary to use mpc over mpv.

>>59687641
>powershell
>not a pile of shit
wew

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>>59679520 >>59680050 >>59681261

Most of Computer graphics stuff:
> AutoCAD, Solidworks, Revit (free CAD apps suck)
> Adobe Illustrator (Inkscape sucks), Adobe Photoshop (Gimp sucks)
> Maya & 3DSMax (They are better than Blender)
> AAA+ Gaymes, Unreal Engine 4, Unity

Windows is the best platform CAD & Game dev.

Though there are pretty good IDEs out there than can replace Visual Studio. And instead of C#, you can code in Java or other language.

>>59687649
What's your gripe with it? I'm interested.

>>59687667
It's basically a shitty hack like Wine. It sort of works, you can do something with it, but it's not as good as the real thing.

>>59687663
>I never used it for more than 10 minutes but claim authority on it

It's every bit as functional as every other shell. The rest is just a matter of learning how to use it, and there's always this strange cognitive dissonance with people that spent years learning to use open source software but refusing to spend 10 seconds reading anything about Microsoft software.

>>59687664
I'm pretty sure Unity does exist for Linux now

>>59681602
I have tried windows and linux on 5 different laptops (clean installs) and wifi never worked out of the box. When you press on help in network settings it brings you to microsoft homepage, even if you dont have an internet connection....

On all those laptops, wifi worked straight out of the box on linux.

>>59687679
So I take it you never really used it? The only issues that remain those days are some encoding errors and incompatibility with some obscure terminals, caused by conflicts with putty's own protocol. Otherwise everything works, you can do everything you'd do with a genuine UNIX system on it, and it's just as good as the real thing.

I mean unless you can come up with something better.

>>59687664
So how's high school?

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>>59679520 (OP) >>59680050 >>59681261

Most of Computer graphics stuff:
> AutoCAD, Solidworks, Revit (free CAD apps suck)
> Adobe Illustrator (Inkscape sucks) & Photoshop (Gimp sucks)
> Maya & 3DSMax >>> Blender
> AAA+ Gaymes, Unreal Engine 4, Unity

Windows is the best platform for CAD & Game dev.

Though there are pretty good IDEs out there than can replace Visual Studio. And instead of C#, you can code in Java or other language.

>>59687682
It has disgusting syntax and it's not even remotely as configurable as bash or other similar shells. Why would anyone ever waste their time with it?

>>59687664
Im using both unreal engine 4 and unity on linux (editors). The installation was also straight forward and fast to do.

>>59687722
>it's not even remotely as configurable as bash or other similar shells
Such as?

>mpc-hc
>aimp
>photoshop
>internet download manager
>goldwave
>windows explorer (no i'm not kidding)
>gayms
>working drivers

>>59687706
>I mean unless you can come up with something better.
Sure: UNIX and Unix-like systems.

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>>59687573
and i see you've posted none of them

>>/reddit/

>>59687751
What's better about them? Functionality is 1:1.

>>59687573
>I cannot fucking read >>59687506
>familiar shortcuts, proper tool windows, a file browser that allows file operations, basic ctrl+arrows word skipping, home/end behavior on wrapped text

And that's only a few, there's so much more, but let's start with those then.

I use it just fine. What's preventing my mom ( a business owner) from using Linux?

>Quickbooks

>>59679520
>Respect

>>59685846
i'd even be happy if someone could name decent programs that did these separately from a music player

>>59687774
cygwin breaks GTK programs on the system like gimp

>>59679520
foobar runs fine on linux

>>59687734
Powershell doesn't have an equivalent of du or find. Plus it still can't handle paths that are too long. I also dislike the whole "everything is an object" crap. It's just shit senpai.

>>59687839
What do you mean it breaks them? cygwin prevents a Windows version of gimp from running?

>>59687774
Wrong. Signals actually work in a UNIX-like environment.

>>59687846
>I say things that are wrong
>I didn't check the hundreds of extensions that do those things
>I dislike the concept even though the one I like just happens to be the only one I know

Okay.

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>>59679520

>>59687892
>waaaah POSIX signals don't work with non-POSIX software!!!!

Unexpected.

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>>59687664
>>59687717
Pajeets can't even shill properly.
Pathetic.

>>59687793
meant for >>59687765 btw

>>59687894
Their version of find cannot handle file paths that are too long. That is not 1:1 functionality whether you like it or not. Why the fuck should i use a shit shell that breaks with too many characters?

>>59687923
>claim functionality is 1:1
>give a specific example where this is not true since Cygwin can't use signals properly
>hurr durr that doesn't count

>>59682262
KVM & VMware > Hyper-V. Period. Unless you are talking about Server Manager

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>>59687765
>copy & paste on linux

>>59687955
Saying "Period." doesn't give you any more validity than posting an image of a smug anime girl.

>>59687651
i dont neet PH 4 daily use

>>59687950
>Cygwin can't use signals properly
It DOES use signals properly. On software that reacts to those signals. What is asked simply doesn't make sense and cannot even fucking exist.

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>>59687957
highlight text
middle mouse

or

ctrl-c
ctrl-v

how retarded are you actually?

>>59687950
>Their version of find cannot handle file paths that are too long.
And it has extensions.

That's like complaining that ls with globbing is shit. Yeah, we created find for that.

Well, we created extensions for Powershell, use them maybe.

>>59687909
What am I looking at?

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>>59687712
>So how's high school?

Generalized Stokes’ Theorem
∮_∂X ω =∫_X dω
or in LaTeX: \oint_{\partial X} \omega = \int_{X} d\omega

Where:

Let X is any compact oriented k-dimensional manifold with boundary, so ∂X y, so ∂X is a k−1 dimensional manifold with the boundary orientation.

Let the exterior differentiation operator defined for forms on arbitrary
manifolds with boundary has the following properties:
1. d(ω1 + ω2) = dω1 + dω2.
2. d(ω ∧ θ) = (dω) ∧ θ + (−1)ᵏω ∧ dθ, where ω is a k-form.
3. d(dω) = 0.

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>>59687990
>some software place highlighted text in clipboard
>accidentally select text, lose clipboard
>copy text, something fuck up and it isn't actually copied

And then there's always

>drag & drop on linux

Everything that requires different software to work together and follow a semblance of UI standards on Linux is always one huge fucking joke.

>>59687854
>>59687978
Did I break you or something?

>>59679873
mpv for video, don't use smplayer it sucks
deadbeef for music, same as foobar and doesn't require autism to config

>>59688035
>3rd try
First day on 4chan heh?

>>59687973
>Note that many of the things that Cygwin does to provide POSIX compatibility do not mesh well with the native Windows API. If you mix POSIX calls with Windows calls in your program it is possible that you will see uneven results. In particular, Cygwin signals will not work with Windows functions which block and Windows functions which accept filenames may be confused by Cygwin's support for long filenames.
https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/highlights.html

So what's your argument then? Don't use Windows APIs and Windows functions? Good because I don't.

>>59688003
>having to download """extensions""" to your shell to fix basic features because it's shit
Or I could just download Bash and be done with it. Powershell history isn't even saved inbetween sessions by default. You have to get some shitty extension for that too.

>>59679707
idiot

>>59688041
distro?

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>>59688064
>Don't use Windows APIs and Windows functions? Good because I don't.
And suddenly you have no reason to complain about signals, on top of having to admit that a UNIX system doesn't support Windows functions at all.

Who's laughing now?

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>>59682320
>>59682366

>>59688064
>having to download """extensions"""

You had to download your Ubuntu anon, can't spare the extra effort? I had Windows straight out of the box myself.

That's such shitty reasoning I'm wondering how you even manage to use a keyboard.

>>59688041
>some software place highlighted text in clipboard
>accidentally select text, lose clipboard
>copy text, something fuck up and it isn't actually copied

not a problem for us euros, lose some weight american

>drag & drop on linux
use a desktop environment, they're all integrated for a reason

all your issues are user issues, related to your US IQ and weight

>>59688079
Centos, Red Hat, Alpine, Arch, Ubuntu on a regular basis, many others at work. It's broken all across the board.

>>59688081
So why the fuck would you use Windows at all then? Just get a proper unix system and you get full functionality of bash with everything. No messing APIs get in your way.

>>59688098
>buying a pre-built computer
Why are you even on /g/?

No, I don't want to waste hours hacking together a slightly usable shell when I could just download Bash.

>>59688113
I'm French, but I could lose some weight so you got me. I guess you win anon.

>>59679520
literally just gaymes

>>59688041
which distro?
I'd say KDE, Budgie, XFCE, Unity all handle those things well. If you're using some barebones wm on top of X that's gunna happen though

>>59688122
>So why the fuck would you use Windows at all then?
You cannot "MIX" them. You can use them "SEPARATELY" just fine.

>>59688085
Top kek, you're really grasping at straws.

As to your post in that image:
I have no need to do the first four things.

My system automatically patches, and any applications are in charge of managing their own patches.

You can easily organize the start menu into categories.

I do wish Windows had a tabbed file explorer.

The last thing is vague. Do you think the Windows OS files will just grow to 100GB in size one day for no reason?

>>59679703
For me it's the folder structure browser and the lighting fast filter, also the ability to monitor music folders from other computers in the network

but yeah this is nice too >>59685846
It's just a very practical music player, doesn't waste you any time.

>>59688122
>No, I don't want to waste hours hacking together a slightly usable OS when I could just download Windows.

This is what your opinion sounds like. Give it a thought.

Are we being raided or something?

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>>59688128

>>59687682
>I never used it for more than 10 minutes but claim authority on it
Ahm, you know, this quote describes the entirety of /g/ most of the time.

>>59688135
I didnt meet these problem on unity, on kde 1st u have clipboard history
2nd u can turn off catching selected text in clipper options. (btw distro != DE)

>>59688135
>I'd say KDE, Budgie, XFCE, Unity all handle those things well. If you're using some barebones wm on top of X that's gunna happen though
It's a per-software issue anon. Even on KDE, copy1pasting between kate and Intellij gives me trouble occasionally.

I don't know what's wrong with it, but it's been years and it's kinda getting worse, so I'm used to it and I just insist with my shortcut several times.

>>59687955
>KVM & VMware > Hyper-V. Period.

Not since 2014

>Unless you are talking about Server Manager

Confirmed never worked in real IT

>>59688143
>lol just don't mix them
Then what the fuck is the point of Cygwin? A shell is meant for you to manipulate everything on your OS. You're seriously telling me to just download Cygwin in a Windows environment and pretend that it is an adequate replacement for native bash in a proper UNIX environment? Yeah, you can make some shit script that will work just fine, but as soon as you try to call anything that might use some Windows API, you'll be in a heap of trouble? What's the point? Just install a real OS and all of this shit works fine.

>>59688161
>install Windows
>no ethernet drivers
>file manager is garbage
>shell is garbage

Windows is not a usable OS out of the box either.

>>59688157
You really missed the point, look at who i'm replying.

>>59688206

I don't know how garbage you need to be to not get Ethernet working out of the box.

Who even uses the fm to the point where it matters in their overall usability of a system.

PowerShell is pretty much a straight improvement over Bash in every way.

>>59688182
>It's a per-software

Yeah fair point last time I used KDE I had problems with copypasting in/out of terminal

>reinstalling linux distros every 6 months

you realize this is broken right

>>59688181
>(btw distro != DE)

true but almost all distros aimed at normies use a combo of X + one of those and whatever wm they've packaged with it, which is where the problem lies.

Is there a videoplayer that shows subtitles even if I go back and forth. Sometime I couldn't the read the subtitle properly so that is why it killed me from wacthing anime on linux

>>59688206
>Then what the fuck is the point of Cygwin?
Ask yourself that question then anon, because it seems you're missing it.

>>59687574
>wine
KVM and VT-d passthrough you mongrel.

>>59688247
>don't criticize windows; it hurts my feelings

A default windows install is still atrocious and lags far behind most linux distros.

>Who even uses the fm to the point where it matters in their overall usability of a system
Nigger are you serious? Yes, I want basic features like tabs in my file manager.

>PowerShell is pretty much a straight improvement over Bash in every way
Name a single improvement. Can you even copy powershell configurations across multiple computers like you can with bash?

>>59688295
literally not an argument

>>59688313
>literally not an argument
You can't understand those arguments because you don't know how cygwin is used.

So ask yourself that question really.

>>59688247
>I don't know how garbage you need to be to not get Ethernet working out of the box.
I recently did a fresh reinstall of Windows for a relative's laptop. No Ethernet drivers out of the box, no graphics drivers out of the box, no Wi-Fi drivers out of the box. I think Bluetooth worked though. At least it was an option for making a new connection.

>>59688334
Let's not try to backpedal here. The original claim was that Cygwin is not an adequate replacement for Bash hence why you stay on Linux full time and not migrate to windows. Thus far, that claim has been totally vindicated since Cygwin lacks the ability to manipulate your entire OS.

>>59679520
AutoHotkey
Office
Sharex
Wondershare PDFelement
JPEGView
GlaryUtilities
AutoCAD
Foobar
SubtitleEdit
BitChe

>>59679709
>autocad

The only actual answer. /thread

Eroges

>>59688448
So there isn't even an alternative for autocad on linux ? Why is that ?

>>59688514
probably google sketchup. and freecad is slowly growing

>>59688514
There are freetard CAD programs, I've tried them and they fucking suck. My guess is the sheer ubiquity of autocad in industry + licensing agreements with Microsoft that help them cut down on piracy etc

>>59688514
Look for bricscad. There's good alternatives for most areas on Linux, don't let yourself to be mislead by the circlejerkers, check by yourself. There's some good pastas about people working with software available on Linux but the threads are usually not bumped anymore when I post them for obvious reasons.

>>59688366
It lacks the ability to combine UNIX concept and NT concepts. It doesn't lack the ability of anything on straight Windows software.

>>59688965
>It lacks the ability to combine UNIX concept and NT concepts.
Which is exactly why it's not an adequate replacement for a bash in a proper unix environment. You can't just fucking say "lol don't use NT concepts" while you are running windows.

>>59679520
A weeb MMO that uses Nexon security bullshit that can only be ran on Windows.

>>59679553
>ads in file manager

>>59688290
https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-demuxer-mkv-subtitle-preroll

>>59681713
it looks way better cuz there aren't ugly fucking buttons on top

Japanese games are literally the only thing holding me on Windows. They don't work well in Wine either.

>>59681893
> >Adobe Photoshop
> GIMP covers most of this with plugins and tweaking, but it still lacks some features.
>GIMP
GIMP is a software for grannies, it doesnt even have 80% of what photoshop has

>>59679520
>Autodesk software
>Adobe software
>literally everything else I use, except VLC kek
I'm not falling for the "just use Wine" meme, so kys for that

Neither am I falling for the "use virtualbox meme", because if I end up being 99% of the time in my Windows virtual machine, then what's the fucking point in running Linux in the first place

kys linfags

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>>59679520
Jokes aside, it runs under wine.

>>59679520
convertxtodvd

>>59685846
Probably Audacious. If not natively there will be a plugin for it. Then again f2k is a mix of plugins as well.

>>59679709
>>59680047
>>59683333
Have you tried Wine?

i can only view the cameras on my shitty amcrest home security system using internet explorer

>>59679828
I heard it's resource intensive and buggy

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>>59680047
>Windows 10 Store (Halo 5 Forge and Halo 6)

>>59679520
FLStudio

>>59679520
None, I've already switched.

>>59679631
Boxes is a pretty good alternative. Although I can't say for sure, never used that botnet

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>>59679631
how does it compare to virt-manager?
don't know much about hyper-v

>>59679520
Guitar rig
Amplitube
Pod farm
Cubase

Reminder that Linux has no audio software

>>59679520
> certain drivers
> visual studio
> games [not anymore]

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>>59694051
it's got more than most people realise

>>59688303
>KVM and VT-d passthrough you mongrel.
Why? Just run them on Windows without any performance loss.

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>>59679520

>>59694836
I don't know about you but I'd rather take a minimal performance hit to not have to use utter shit as my primary OS

>>59689625
kekked

>>59694379
>an equalizer, compressor and reverb

step the fuck back ableton