>be japan >single handedly destroy the immigration meme

because japan is superior

lurk more

I swear I don't know what board I'm on half of the time now.

>>59665467
Honestly I feel the same way.

>>59665442
>Automate farming
>economic stimulus for equator region countries
This is a good thing for them. Mexico will become great with this technology, especially if it's cheap and modular. Mexican people can make their own cheap food to sell instead of corporations fucking them raw. Mexico, South America, Africa, South East Asia, etc. will become great and powerful as they control the food supply.

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>>59665706
>Mexico, South America, Africa, South East Asia, etc. will become great and powerful

I've grown vegetables for almost 3 years in my room fully automated with high pressure aeroponics

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>>59665706
the real question is if these regions will adapt or perish. I'd honestly lean towards the later. Time and time again they've proven to be incompetent even with every first world nation dumping money on them by the billions.

>>59665706
Mexico has a tremendous amount of natural resources. The Cartels and corrupt political establishment need to be wiped out first.

>>59665739
All they have to do is not get cucked on technology prices, and they will be able to regain control of their markets instead of getting raped by corporations mining them dry. Average citizens will be able to make competitive startups instead of the big players in industry running the show.

>>59665442
Automatic farming has been a thing since forever and no genuinely new tech has appeared in this area in basically 5 years now.

>>59665802
>t. beaner

>>59665767
Dumping money doesn't make them thrive. It makes them dependent. Farmers in Ethiopia literally can't do business because of operations like the Red Cross basically axing trade on food in the area.

>>59665802
The farms in the OP are based on nip technology from 2015

Interesting timing...

I'm watching an episode of bizzbuzz on NHK that is talking about this exact topic on their livestream.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/bizbuzz/201703210600/

>>59665442
Western civilization is a bunch of barbaric savages. Japan is the pinnacle of culture and far superior than any of the degeneracy the west has to offer.

>>59665775
give me anything I ask for and I'll do it myself

>manual farming
>current_year
kek

>>59665817
nips are over 20 years behind in robotic (the software/AI part as opposed to the hardware part). They don't have shit. It's pure pop sci as usual.

>>59665836
>Japan
>not degenerates
It's like you've never been on pornhub.

>>59665782
technology is powered by energy and those shitty countires are all energy cucked by their socialists governments

>>59665855
Japan is the only country that deserves to exist, they are as pure as humanity can possibly get.

>>59665874
If thats as pure as humanity can get, then we all deserve to die.

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>>59665874
>>>59665855 (You)
>they are as pure as humanity can possibly get
>pure
Yes, tentacle porn, mother-son incest, being a permavirgin, and living with your parents until you're 40 are values that are reflective of a healthy and thriving society...

>>59665874
They're Korean, Chinese, Ainu, and Indian mutts.

>>59665467
Fuck i thought i was on /pol/ for a second

You do realize a lot of farms, especially smaller ones are dying or struggling in America right?
Not enough new people going into agriculture either

>>59666107
You're projecting, anon.

>>59665782
Apple decided to produce their products in our country years ago, everyone was cherishing the news because that would mean a price drop. Nope, they blamed the government for high taxes and priced it the same as the stores were selling the iphones while one could be bought at half the price (including shipping) if you shipped it from the US or China. I mean, it makes no sense to produce your shit here if the taxes are that high, therefore there is no reason to believe Apple and the people keep buying iphones anyway.
That being said, food prices won't lower in South America with automated farming.

>>59666506
>food prices won't lower in South America with automated farming.
It means you'll have less excuses to push for immigration. With less viable job sources for minimum wage workers, you'll have less immigration problems, leading to less crime, and less first world problems related to ``tolerance''.
Of course, that won't stop refugees, but at least you'll be able to claim hardship. Why accept refugees when they won't be able to support themselves?

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>>59666107
defend every single one of these

>>59666557
>Why accept refugees when they won't be able to support themselves?
Dude we are taking all those venezuelans AND haitians invading from the north, do not underestimate the inertia we have here in (I believe) all countries in the continent.

Report and move on

>>59666580
not an argument

More and more people will be living in mega cities in the coming decades. Cities will be redesigned to accommodate such a large population, nearly every building top will be public space for people to find peace and quiet.

The majority of jobs will vanish as robotic automation will give us the leisure of free time to do as we please, to finally paint that picture or to travel abroad and see the world.

Corporations will provide us with basic housing and income to sustain a comfortable life style... it won't be fancy, but it'll be minimal but elegant. You'll sell off your car to ride in a driverless taxi to take you everywhere.

>>59666697
Sounds like a cyberpunk utopia

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>>59666452
Am I?

>>59666561
>list with no context
Lol wut.

>>59665467
You better stop being a cuck right now.

>>59666697
Food, VERY basic clothing and a room for you, maybe, but transportation with no requirement? wew lad that is bullshit.

>>59665442
Japan is saving no one. It will slowly die. Fucking weaboos only see the present, lmao. They see life in what is dying and death in what is living.

>>59666796
>said the increasingly nervous chinaman for the third time today

>>59666697
>>59666770
God, I hope so. I wouldn't mind the basic clothing since I never buy expensive clothes and always just get the most cheapest shit I can find on clearance, which may or may not be of good quality.
It better be soon so I can keep my NEET lifestyle going.

>>59665467
>>59665479
>>59666292
Because /pol/ is always relevant...and right.

>>59666796
The birth rates will be fixed on design babies become a reality

>>59666770
Bread and circus anon

>>59666932
you are looking at the circus right now and it is absurdly cheaper than transportation, so much even mcdonalds give it for free, although they do it because the chances of you buying something from them is high enough to do that.

>>59667026
I fell silly now, i stupidly never see "free" wi-fi as circus

>>59665442

What´s this rise of threads about robots and unemployment ?

>>59667122
We are social retards, introversion is a recipe for unemployment in a world where the liars make it to the top while the introverts are seen as lazy. ;_;

>>59665442
Japan is going to need immigrants if their birth rate stays as it is. Otherwise they'll collapse their pension system in the future when there's too many people taking money out and not enough people putting money in.

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>>59665442
More access to organic foods for people who choose to eat healthy. Why the fuck not?

>>59667264
Protip, all food is organic as they are made up of partially carbon.
Organic=/Healthy

>>59665467
I thought I was on /news/ for a good minute.

>>59667256
No they don't. Technology will solve their labor issues. Also, it would never work -- Japanese culture is highly collectivist and homogeneous, they know that the foreign savage would wreak havoc in their highly traditional culture. The spineless, placid Japanese male would never stand for tyrone and Muhammad like western men, and not for noble reasons either just plane old xenophobia.

>>59667281
Guess so bruv, but what I meant is that you can grow it without pesticides. Having a small vertical farm with temperature controls, hydroponics and humidity sensors takes out many of the reasons they use these harsh chemicals in our foods. Might prevent your grandchildren from getting cancer.

>>59667304
>Technology will solve their labor issues.
That's a very uncertain future. There's absolutely nothing concrete about it. And technology ultimately depends on people working on it.

>>59665449
Despite this, they won't sex and got chinked hard.

>>59667326
If it pays off then it will probably be the biggest boon to human infrastructure since the industrial revolution or at least since the 80s when computing really started to take off

>>59665467
Pol has been overrun so they've spread back out to other boards.

>>59665442
ANCAP soon, be careful not to violate the NAP or Monsanto will send the robot farmers while gassing you with pesticide from the drone crop duster.

>>59666561
wjhat the fuck is that list

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>>59667388
You think Japan is still relevant in tech industry? Their most important goods are batteries, LED and steel. Literally nothing and oldies buy chink stuff and the young destroyed local phone industry with apple faggotry. So you think this is the society that can overcome with their tremendous issues. Sure...

>>59667326
>And technology ultimately depends on people working on it
The people working on it is us. I believe that is why they focus on improving upon, instead of innovation because the latter requires too much risk taking and uncertainty. Japanese schooling seems to focus on what they know works. Irritation is their game. If you've ever go to japan, you'll see that they still use a lot of old technology that is highly modified. It's that ingenuity that will let them succeed in my opinion. Let the west create, and they improve that's just how its been from automobiles, transistors, to toilets. If the west ever truly focuses on things like renewable energy and automation it will be a big benefit to japan. Japan hasn't really completely invested themselves in these things because the technology isn't there yet. You can tell they will though, by how they embraced nuclear energy, to a fault as we've found out now. My point is, japan will find their salvation in technology but in the meanwhile their zombie economy and society of highly educated betas will remain.

>>59667474
>Irritation
iteration *
fuck gboard

>>59665706
>Everyone can make food to sell!
>Wow! We're all going to be rich!!

>>59667508
>Sell
probably not.
Universal income will just be an inevitability

Mexico had food self suficiency and was a net exporter before they bought into the jewish schemes known as (((NAFTA))) and """"free-trade""""
They were leaders of the first green revolution

>>59667516
>Universal income
Mudslimes will like it.

>technology is taking muh jobs!
>Japan needs immigrants to work the jobs

Fucking globalists

>>59667467
Japan still makes high quality equipment and components.

>>59667553
it'll work swimmingly in countries that aren't importing kebabs by the boatloads.

>>59667571
Like what?

>>59667467
The only reason they lost ground is because of Korea, another highly homogeneous nation even if they're full of batshit insane feminists. More importantly korea has an insane amount of government-corporate collusion and supporting of vertically integrated monopolies which is why part of the scandal involving Korea's president has to do with Samsung getting government help.

>>59667594
The gooks have balls in business, japs don't. Where is Sharp now? It was the most innovative display developer and now totally fucked in the ass because they can't sell their product unlike Samsung or LG.

>>59667594
>The only reason they lost ground is because of Korea
No, Korea growing didn't displace Japan
Japan not growing let Korea and China start displacing them
>More importantly korea has an insane amount of government-corporate collusion
Japan does this as well, they are the least obvious in comparison to Korea and China
>and supporting of vertically integrated monopolies
The sole diference with Japan is that nip monopolies are horizontaly integrated

>>59665782
>Average citizens will be able to make competitive startups
You don't have any experience with the average African, do you?

>>59666697
In a place like Japan where there is a ton of rural land you'll likely see cities turn into production centers while people move out into the rural lands to live in smaller communities or start small cities for living. If we achieve full automation the production will be centered in cities that make good use of space with tightly packed skyrises. People will move to the out sparse lands and have an easier time developing them due to automated building so people will live in luxury.

But a consequence and necessity is that population sizes will shrink as automation increases, at least at first, so resources are widely available to the population.

They already use trucks that auto pick crops while some dude reads a book in the cockpit.

>>59667474
Japan is putting quite a lot into renewable energy now. They have big solar farms going up all over the place, solar is on a lot of houses.
Of course, solar doesn't solve everything, you need enough production to cover load at night as well, but perhaps they can move away from the older nuclear technologies.

>>59667661
Nuclear is objectively superior to solar, solar hardly ever can break even and pollutes almost as much as your average coal fired power plant
Only libcucks buy into the media hysteria that pretends that nuclear is bad mmmkay

>>59667652
The "driver" still inputs the GPS data and shit to make the truck run the course.

This sounds like you'd set up the robot system to say grow lettuce in this field and it would automate planting, watering when necessary, spraying if necessary, monitor the crop growth, and harvest without any further input.

>>59667579
So... Japan maybe?

Universal basic income will literally bring in a new age of genuine stupidity. When your country relies on the smart few to maintain technology and dedicate their lives to science so much so that they probably won't even have kids, the stupid will live off them and breed and breed and breed until there's a billion useless, brain-dead negroes every country that won't be able to maintain the technology built by the previous generation, that's IF they don't revolt and destroy everything because they'll blame anything bad on the intellectual minority and demand to be represented into higher positions without any merit.

>>59667684
Water reactors are shit. A shitty design pushed mostly by the Navy.

Invest in molten salt. That's where nuclear should be.

>>59667705
>Water reactors are shit. A shitty design pushed mostly by the Navy.
Yeah, literally everything wrong with nuclear can be traced back to shitty reactors based on early Cold War designs, or made with those designs
The Fukushima reactors were from the early 70's, and their design was based on 50's reactors

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>>59666714
For the sake of encouraging self-reliance, I'll teach you how to find the list! Give a man a fish, they say! The response is in the context of the original comment, in which there are two primary, non-ad hominem points - take a look, know what they are? - "Permavirgin" and "living with your parents until you're 40"! These can loosely be associated with reproduction and unemployment, respectively, so there's a good chance we find success by checking these first! The screenshot is obviously from Wikipedia, so we google "wikipedia unemployment rate by country". This page has a table on it, could we have found our source? No - these are the wrong numbers! Let's check our second possibility (note reproduction rate is also called fertility rate) "wikipedia fertility rate by country". This page also has a table on it, and these numbers look a lot closer to the ones in the screenshot! There's even a second table to the right of the first! Let's do a ctrl-f for Japan - 184!? 1.4!? We found it, and it only took 30 seconds! Replying-anon doesn't make much of a point with the graph, but that's a lesson for another time! Now you know!

>>59667735
you

>>59666714
>>59667450
It seems to be a list of fertility rate by country

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>>59665874
Japan respects the cleanest, best pleasure

>>59667367
There's no reason to sex when there aren't many jobs and there are too many people already.

By the way, say what you will about how little physical sex the Japanese have, but the Tokyo Night Scene is crazier than any red-blooded Christian man-on-top over in five seconds get-it-over-with-before-God-cries sex you will ever have.

>>59667701
>they'll blame anything bad on the intellectual minority and demand to be represented into higher positions without any merit.
so more of the same? diversity quotas, affirmative action, legislation that forces NASA to advertise and create programs to k-12 females

>>59666806
I've only posted this once today. I don't visit 4chan during work hours.

>>59667766
how'd you find that, you are magic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

good list, I like lists

>>59665841
Lurk more, newfag.

Google bought Japanese robot companies for a reason.

>>59665442
>Automated farming
Definitely technology!

>Immigration
>Racial superiority
>Fertility rates
>Japanese sex vs western sex
Not technology.

>>59667817
>>59667766
why is new zealand 2.0 but it is lower than some 1.9s

>>59667616
Protip: Despite major government investment, nobody buys Korean cars and all those Korean stars that tried to make it big in America all flopped.

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>>59667821

>Bad news for job security
If you're an underpaid illegal I guess?

>>59667841
Yeah, this autistic /pol/ shit needs to stop infecting the rest of this god damn fucking website.

>>59666932
This guy gets it.

>>59667878
Maybe we should go to /pol/ and discuss AMD's mobo supply problems over there.

>>59667367
Who needs sex when you have anime?

>>59667893
The Japanese independently developed calculus and are the country other than Germany to compete with the US when it comes to new inventions.

>>59667853
Latvia is 1.7 and amongst 1.5s.

I guess whoever made the table just sucks. It's not really sorted by the rate by default. If you click the rate header a couple of times it sorts out.

>>59667785
Not really the same but a I believe it's rational progression from where we are now.

I predict the IQ lowering substantially as intelligent people breed less, societies more socialised, people immigrate from shitholes and the stupid, religious and lazy will have dozens of kids that are paid for by the state.

We can see now that the morning intelligent and wealthy and successful people have a fraction of the kids that the scum of society do.
We can see now that people advocate for open borders or at least a psuedo-open border policy because they propose zero repercussions for illegal immigrants.
We can see now that people are demanding increased socialisation, they want more money for less work and want successful and wealthy people to be punished for amassing such wealth so that money can be redistributed amongst people who couldn't comprehend that getting loans for a college degree in a field with no jobs was their fault.
We can see now a culture that champions that biggest failures of society. Everyone claps for the retard wining the race, everyone wants to invest money so brain-dead Sally can become a kinegarten teacher and the desire for young people today to be an oppressed minority...
Diversity hiring will get even worse if that's a thing. When you put incompetent people into positions of power just because of their race or sex or 'underprivileged status' then you create a chain of bad decisions. When these people are teachers, police, judges, military, politicians, marketers, "intellectuals", television producers or whatever then you'll end up with bad decisions having significant consequences. e.g. you put enough Muslims, coloureds and women in Canadian parliament and they vote to build Dossiers on "Islamaphobes".

I think we're going to enter a dark age (no pun intended)

>>59667735
Cirno baka :>

>>59667893
>>the country who's standing army is so shit they haven't seen a warzone in 80 years
Do you even know anything about Japan since WW2?

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>its a /pol/tard who took one too many redpills enters the thread episode

>>59665442
Kinda feel bad we nuked em

>>59667933
>I guess whoever made the table just sucks. It's not really sorted by the rate by default. If you click the rate header a couple of times it sorts out.
This is how the average wikipedia table works, pretty much everything there is broken to some degree
This is what a few hundred thousand dollars spent in engineering yearly have accomplished

>>59667947
He obviously knows everything about Japan. Japan is, like, so backward and uncivilized. I bet the internet is slow there, too. Oh, and do not get me started on how disorganized they are over there, ugh!

>>59667878
>>59667841
If you don't want political discussion then don't start topics about political issues.

You're not discussing the electronics or programming of these, you're posting about "Japan makes uses of automated farming". The technology isn't even explained. The only discussion here is about the ramifications of this technology on all the topics that come under politics.

>>59667953
They deserved it and in the long run setting them straight was better for everyone in the region.

>>59667953
I doubt you'll still feel that way when it's your job that becomes obsolete.

>>59665755
Interesting. Please explain

>>59668000
I did not start this thread.

>>59666697
>Corporations will provide us with

good joke m8

>>59668000
I didn't either.

Now that I think about it, post IDs should be on all boards.

I like Japan. They realize how useless Linux desktop is.

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>Economically competitive
>More people of non-working age then working age
>Shrinking population
Good luck with that.

>>59668165
anime though

>>59668165
Shrinking population is actually a good thing, but the government doesn't see it that way because they invested in an increasing population and taxes.

>>59668365
>Shrinking population is actually a good thing
How so?

>>59668365
You are, of course, wrong. Steady population is a good thing if there is enough work for everyone. Shrinking is bad thing as is overgrowth.

>less people buying houses
>housing prices go down to attract more buyers

>less people to fill positions in the work place
>wages go up to attract more workers

>less people consuming electricity, generating pollution, making trash
>better environment

>>59668442
Ignorance is bliss. There is more to it.

grorious nippon

>>59668442
>Once vibrant towns and cities reduced to decaying slums
>Workers face absurd taxes to pay for the healthcare and welfare of retirees

>>59668377
Populations are, currently, too high. The boom generations always would be unsustainable. The shrinking population will level out to a more realistic, sustainable level.

Then there is the fact of increased automation. Automation is something that is going to happen. It is technological advancement. We don't have to worry so much about people in the future losing jobs to automation if there are just less people.

>>59668826
It's really not uncommon in Japan for families to actually actively take care of their elderly members rather than just leave them to the system.

Also it's not like it is even the NEETs and herbivore males that are the real problem. The size of families in general has been dropping, probably as more people move to the cities they just have smaller families.

>>59668950
>Populations are, currently, too high. The boom generations always would be unsustainable. The shrinking population will level out to a more realistic, sustainable level.
But if the shrinking population will be prospering, it is going to shrink even faster. The only countries that are not shrinking are the ones with low education and/or poverty.

>>59665442

Why do people act like automated farming is a surprise or worth note?

It's been moving that direction for quite a while, most large scale farms have the animals almost entirely taken care of by machines including shit removal, feeding, etc. Some even have automated cow milking machines. The average modern harvester is essentially autonomous aswell.

Farmers sit in the air conditioned cab and just wait there while the damn things harvest their crop automatically based on GPS coordinated.

>>59665755
>Grab phone
>Walk around room filming, explaining shit
>Throw video on pomf.cat>>59665782
>>59665782
You act like china won't own all the factories. They already own africa, and buy out any semi profitable business.

>>59669070
>Why do people act like automated farming is a surprise or worth note?
Because it's necessary.

People just don't want to farm anymore. The farmers are still required even if they sit in their cab drinking booze while the harvester follows the course they programmed in.

>>59665442
>could have consequence for rural livelihoods

So no more conservatives anymore in the future?

K E K

>>59665442
>automate farming in 1st world
>pay 1st world salary to the admin
>automate farming in 3rd world
>pay 3rd world salary to the admin

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>>59667256
I went and got this just for you, brainwashed cuck

ITT:
>shrinking population are always bad
>japan need more unskilled workers for all those unskilled jobs that no one is doing,

>>59667821
Japan tech esp in IT is seriously overrated. They are too insular.

will the japanese save earth with robots?

The doublethink of globalists is incredible
>baww robots are taking jobs
>baww there are untaken jobs so we need immigrants

>bad news for job security?

Instead of becoming a farmer, become a roboticist. DUH

>>59669573
>Anyone with half a brain tries to become a robot engineer
>robot engineer is the new burger flipper

>Not having your own vegepatch to nurture and fill you full of nutrients and purpose :')

>>59669609
my tomato plants have been catching some fungus lately, gonna have to make a greenhouse soon, it's too humid for them in the night

UK farmers will need robots to do migrant field labour. I've seen weeding robots demo'd.

Robot tractors and harvesters are in the pipeline. A robot factory farm would be a good investment.

boy, i sure like politics! don't you, guys?

>>59667367
Why? robots are the way of the future.

>>59669683
automation of the workforce is a real issue that needs to be look at whether you like it or not

>>59669717
it's almost like you're implying I need to be looking at things I don't give a fuck about

>>59665442

I live in Japan. They do a lot right here, but here's this sense of pema-chaos around the tokyo metro that where the easter, wester, and a lack of space collide into something that only someone raised here could love for a lifetime.

>>59665706
This topic is actually something I have much interest in, so I'd like to share some of my insights and opinion since I'm involved with agro-based company

Different countries needs different level of quantum leap for their agriculture industry. Contrary to what people think, african countries are no stranger to mechanization and large scale farming methods. Even fucking somalia have commercial farms with banana and cattle rearing become their major export.

Problem with african countries is fragmented farmland, climate change, weak land laws, access to cheap fertilizers and pesticides (hell even basic tools like hoes and watering pots) and, above all else, logistics

1/3 of food produced in africa went to hell simply because of logistic inefficiency and inadequate infrastructure for processing, storage and transport.

http://documents.wfp.org/stellent/groups/public/documents/special_initiatives/WFP265205.pdf

>>59669784
I like how you just threw climate change in there like that is having any immediate effect any fucking time soon. you libcucks are funny

>>59669717
no it really isn't an issue.
you just make it an issue because you're less than useless.

>>59669717
Not if there's a shrinking workforce like in japan.

>>59665706
except it won't because markets with low barriers to entry and low margins are won through scale.

near complete automation will basically destroy small time farming at best.
Of course this is ignoring the fact that for most things reaped form the earth, we already pretty much complete autonomy.

Not many people know this, but the Japanese tried importing labor with Brazilians. Most br's living in JP are poor and live like shit in slums
t.knower

>>59669835
Tokyo Godfather showed it in its way.

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>>59669835
I'm glad they learned their lesson before the global community started caring about this and chastised anyone for criticizing the ruining of ones own country over some moral high-ground.

>>59669807
Africa suffered major droughts in the last decades dumb reddit immigrant, there's a reason WCG and CPDN ran simulations purely for Africa

>>59665442
>>59665442
>Automobiles: Good news for transportation, bad news for saddle and horse-drawn buggy makers?

>>59668421
There's only so much room on a finite planet, do you really expect humanity to produce another 10 billion people? Do you even realize that we're literally destroying this planet?

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>>59665442
that lettuce is straight dro, mane

>>59665874
.you believe that because you're a faggot

Here's the sad truth most people want to ignore.

Humanity is destroying this planet and we only have about half a century before it's too late (if we're lucky enough to make it that far).

Every aspect of our civilization will have to change dramatically or else we'll face extinction, which means cities need to change for healthier standards of living. The traditional working 9-5 life style will have to end, no more factories or dead end office jobs for us, we need to move beyond the working phase just to eat and sleep comfortably. A basic universal income is the next step even though most Joe Lunch Bucket conservatives will resist it because they can't imagine their shitty boring lives without work, they're worker drones and nothing else.

>164 posts
>still no source of OP's article

>it's a /pol/itically charged group of NEETs come in and spew nonsensical opinions about topics they know nothing about

>>59670116
I prefer the idea of a negative income tax:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpgkX588nM

>>59670116
sadly global warming and climate fuckdity is onto us
we're fucked either way, even if we do a massive cultural and economic reform

>>59665467
>oh look, a technology thread that isn't an amd/intel debate or an apple meme.

gee you're right, must not be relevant to the board topic.

>muh automatization killng muh jerbs

They've been saying that since the first steam engine.
Will uneducated stupid people and uneducated fake news journalists ever learn?

>>59669827
>destroy small farming
Or it will allow small farmers to become more competitive price wise within their own communities as they will be able to make their product dirt cheap if the tech is priced affordably, and unlike big companies, they don't have to deal with transportation costs across nations. They just trade in their own backyards.

The only way small farming gets fucked is if tech prices are absurd, or all the viable farmland in their area is already owned by a company.

POST

FUCKING

SOURCE

ARTICLE

>>59667256
>if birthrate is plummeting that is a bad thing and you must import immigrants

oh wow

>>59667256
>immigrants will put more money on the economy
>implying

>>59669352
>1st world capitalist farm owner is middle class with one house and 1 car
>3rd world farm owner has castles all over Europe, offshore bank accounts and 5 yachts
every time

>>59668000
Nobody on /g/ is smart enough to talk about anything other than browsers, linux and CS 101. There used to be electrical engineers on /g/, but they fucked off to /sci/

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>>59667256
>>59668377
>>59668365
When the population of Europe dropped by a third during the Bubonic Plague, it ended serfdom. So much upward pressure was placed on the limited labor market that former peasants were able to form guilds and become the medieval equivalent of middle class.

Imagine if the kings of olde had been smart enough to realize they could have kept their cushy system just by inviting a couple million Saracens into Europe

>>59665836
Here's your (You)

>>59665467
Moderation seems to be too small on most of the big boards.
/pol/ leaks out onto most boards now.
/a/ seems to have the most moderation. Or the users just do a better job at containing their shitposts.

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>>59670711
This actually gave me a feeling of wokeness

>>59665442
Because they can make money by export robots out of their recession?

>>59670200
>appe meme
We always to applefags stay on /fa/ and win10fags stay on /v/ or /pol/.

>>59670865
/a/ has always been isolationist so posting a non anime image or trying to shit it up with crossboarding will quickly get your post deleted and/or you banned.

>>59670865
Mods and jannyes from most of the boards spend their times on IRC instead their home boards.

>>59665442
>Why is Japan saving the west when they aren't even threatened?

Why are you unable to see potential economic advancement when you're staring it in the face?

If a robot can pick lettuce, then that frees up the worker to do another job -- one that's harder to design a robot to do.

Now, you've got two workers instead of one -- one robot and one human -- hence you get twice as much work done. Twice as much work means twice the economic output. Twice the economic output for the same number of people means an overall advancement in living standards.

And why are you unable to see that we've been down this road a hundred times, and it's always resulted in an overall improvement? I guess we could all walk to work, but driving gets us there faster, leaving us with more free time -- but for years people complained bitterly about how automobiles would destroy various industries. Yeah, those industries got destroyed -- and we ended up better in the long-term as a result.

>>59667516
>Universal income
Yeah, like when there was the agricultural revolution in the middle age, or industrial revolution in 19th.

The fact is, even if it means you put stuffs in your butt on chaturbate to make some bucks, you'll have to work even with a technological revolution. Nobody will want to humiliate a robot, because it's pointless, and we'll always need real people to do certain things, like entertainment (put things in your butt for the pleasure of others). Better prepare your butt.

>>59667735
autism

>>59670914
It broke something in my heart when I realized how many "humanitarian" concerns were based on economic exploitation.

Borders are just a social construct, which is why we need to invite poor Latin American workers seeking a better life into the US... to pick crops and do menial construction for $5 an hour because a local worker would want $10 to $12.

America should attract all the world's best and brightest, which is why we should have open arms to highly educated Asian immigrants to do highly technical jobs. By the way, we'll be paying them $40,000 a year instead of $100,000+ a year for a domestically educated worker.

Look at these poor, starving Africans. Don't you want to send them food? More importantly don't you want to send money to American farming conglomerates to pay them for their surplus food so they can ship it overseas and hand it out while simultaneously eradicating foreign farming competition because they can't compete with "free food"?

Taking all of a person's most altruistic, compassionate impulses and then twisting them so wretchedly to INCREASE oppression and poverty, can you imagine anything sicker than that?

>>59665467
Vets of the meme war are returning home to their respective boards. Show some respect.

>>59671626
So true, same for medicine which makes more sales for pharmaceutics industry.

>>59667264
Because organic food is bad for the environment.

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>>59670982
>If a robot can pick lettuce, then that frees up the worker to do another job -- one that's harder to design a robot to do.

Not always. If one robot replaces 7 workers there won't necessarily be 7 other jobs for them and they will have to move somewhere else to find work.

Japan's biggest problem right now is an aging population with a declining birth rate. They need those 7 workers paying into social security, and they need those 7 workers having large families and earning living wages while staying right where they are. Even now Japan is failing at this and they are suffering from a lack of young families, large families, and immigrant labor.

Rural funding (especially for schools) is especially harmed by a declining labor pool. No young families in an agricultural area means the classroom sizes shrink until the school eventually closes. When the school is gone no new young families want to move there. The community turns into a large retirement home and when those old people die so does the town.

This is already happening without excessive automation.

The only solution is to let the robot take those 7 jobs and then give the seven people it replaced a redundant "make-work" project to keep them employed in the area. They could hold signs that say "caution: robot work area ahead" and meaningless shit like that.

Failure to do so causes a total failure of basic services and old age social security.

>>59667735
ありがとチルノさま

>>59671938
Or you simply allow the bio-Japanese to die out, giving rise to the world's first entirely robotic country and a new species to dominate the planet

>>59665442
Sorry but this is not impressive. Wake me up when they have a fully functioning AI waifu android bot.

>>59669070
>Why do people act like automated farming is a surprise or worth note?
Because in the US a large portion of farming is done by illegal immigrants and Democrats would rather stuff the ballot boxes and repeat "we need illegal slave labor" meme than move into the more sensible, sustainable, efficient and clean method that is automated farming

>>59672068
guess which side was talking about the forgotten man and woman in middle america?
Dems aren't the aide that will hold back progress on this one. They'd rather we get automated farming and then tax the owners to give everyone neetbux so they can buy votes.

>>59670156
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2016/feb/18/automated-farming-food-security-rural-jobs-unemployment-technology

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>>59671980
>Or you simply allow the bio-Japanese to die out,

They are doing a good enough job of that already.

The place where I work already has a couple of those
They use it just for greens
No automated harvest though,

>>59670214
The farm in OP is a vertical, indoor farm with light powered by LEDs and some kind of water gathering system that recycles 98% of water used. Apparently it can produce 20000-50000 heads of lettuce in its experimental size. Pretty cool desu, not to mention that the food being indoors makes it far less likely to need pesticides or get damaged by the environment.

>>59665442
Here >>>/pol/ I think u would be more suited there

>>59672138
Luckily, most of the jobs that Trump is supposedly bringing back will just become automated which is a win win for everyone except for China and the people who wanted those jobs

>>59665442
>Why is Japan saving the west when they aren't even threatened?

Because its political elite was not utterly cucked and/or destroyed like the european was after two world wars. They still want Japan to remain Japan.

>>59667941
We're already in the dark age. The Kali Yuga. Check out Brett Stevens' writing at the American Nihilist Underground Society, aka anus.com

I'm not kidding, that's the URL. The guy's got a sense of humor.

>>59667893
How mad are you right now?

>>59667705
>Water reactors are shit. A shitty design pushed mostly by the Navy.

yet none of their reactors have fucked up

t. navy nuke

>ctrl+f
>0 results for 'hyper oats'

disappointed

>>59673375
Because they're much smaller. Water designs are good for small reactors, but horrible when scaled up.
But because the navy had loads of nuclear engineers leaking out into civilian land, they all insisted on water designs, fucking nightmares.

How did the japanese destroy the immigration meme? If anything they're handling it worse than Europe with their culture being perceived as nothing but dumb infantile shit abroad and are attracting likewise dumb retards who aren't capable of contributing back to their society or actually integrating to it.

Cheap labor force is actually an important thing so is the capability to deal with your aging population.

>>59667592
>>59667467 said this, did you read that?
>Their most important goods are batteries, LED and steel.

>>59670116
Shut the fuck up Michael Moore, no one buys this doomsday bullshit. Half a century, get real you fucking moron. Earth's decline will be very slow, if it all, and eventually the level of pollution we put out now will stop once the main perpetrator, the Chinese get into a position like us in the US where the cost of labor makes mass domestic manufacturing unsustainable and the level of pollution decreases. They're headed down that route.

Basic Income is a dumb fucking idea, just more socialist uptopian bullshit that will never work the way it is intended. The only saving grace of the idea is that it is in the end possibly cheaper than the current welfare system because of cutting red tape. It will collapse in on itself when we have an actual fucking labor shortage, because instead of the intended effect of people being able to become skilled workers in their freed up time due to not having to worry about needs, you either get lazy fucks who leech off of tax dollars, develop no skills, and do not rejoin the work force. Or you get dumb niggers who don't know how to manage their own newly granted finances and still stay in poverty because they are dumb niggers.

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>>59670562
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59667428
That's very good. Time to wake up the goyims.

>>59670116
Wow, really makes me think.

So we already have the capability to completely terraform a planet on a global scale within 100 years or less, making it catastrophically inhabitable or habitable.

really makes me think a dink

>>59673706
>How did the japanese destroy the immigration meme?

A good example is the Japanese Brazilians. Their xenophobia is almost inspirational to /pol/

A large number of Japanese moved to brazil for several generations. They didn't breed with the local brown people and were still racially "pure" for the most part. They were simply ethnic Japanese living abroad.

In the 1980s the Japanese economy was hot and they encouraged them to come "home" to Japan to work. Unfortunately they were treated as jungle savages on arrival and were despised. Even kids who moved from japan to Brazil and back again were treated as filthy foreigners.

The kids in particualr were bullied out of schools and many simply stopped going. In 2005 it was foudn that 40,000 Brazilian Japanese were attending school in japan and a staggering 15,000 had dropped out. There are 36 dedicated Brazilian schools for these Japanese kids since they simply cannot survive in a normal Japanese school.

In 2009 the government created a program to deport the Japanese Brazilians back to Brazil. They are offered $3000 in airfare if they agree to leave the county and sign a waiver stating they will never seek employment in Japan ever again.

tl;dr

That is how Japanese treat their own people who leave and come back. They view the Koreans, Han Chinese, and brown races even lower.

People are scared of change and don't want it to happen even when it's change for the better.

For example, healthcare is a huge issue. The number one way to lower the cost of healthcare is to devalue it. It'll be devalued in the far distant future when robot doctors take over the job over regular doctors and today it could be devalued by making it easier for people to become doctors, like if they taught basic medicalcare in middle school and high school, simple stuff like treating wounds and identifying illnesses. It would go a long way to make doctors less special because there would be an abundance of people with many of the same skills as them.

Here's where people get scared. You might be of the opinion "BUT DOCTORS 'DESERVE' TO MAKE THE BIG BUCKS AND BE TREATED LIKE ROYALTY FOR ALL THE YEARS OF MEDICAL SCHOOL THEY WENT TO!" That is why the healthcare system is so fucked to begin with. Doctors are great people, don't get me wrong, but there should be far more doctors, it should be easier to become a doctor, and, yes, they should be making less money.

>>59674445
based japs

>>59674521

>The number one way to lower the cost of healthcare is to devalue it. It'll be devalued in the far distant future when robot doctors take over the job over regular doctors and today it could be devalued by making it easier for people to become doctors

In America only about 10% of your health care bill goes to doctors. The "system" eats up about 85% of it while nurses and support staff get the last 5%.

If your hospital visit cost $15,000 you can guarantee $10,000 of that went to men with business degress, not medical. Doctors and nurses are a very small part of it.

Imagine men in suits shaking hands with men in suits handing each other briefcases overflowing with cash. Some money spills out onto the floor and that is what goes to the doctors and nurses.

Billions in profits are going to the wrong people and that is why healthcare costs too much.

>>59675046
You can shift the blame to the nameless business man all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that if doctors were devalued then the cost of healthcare would plummet.

>>59665442
Japan is the reason why I'm still alive.
I love this country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaLQcJ3q3Hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ungXT10i8nw

>>59665442
>job security
literally the biggest of memes. let old industries die and new ones will sprout from their ashes in the form of technological developments. fuck coal miners, fuck farmers, fuck factory workers. if machines can replace them then let them. they can become uber drivers. and when self driving cars replace those jobs then let them become something else. technology creates job for those willing to move with the world and adapt to change. and for those who aren't, let them rot.

>>59665467
It's because election 2016 BTFO so many people on both sides and made everyone hate eachother even more, though this trend has been in effect since W. Normies can't shut up about politics anymore and that in turn affects what anons think and post about. There hasn't been a cooling of butthurt like there normally is after elections. So blame Normies for being up in arms and pissing off /pol/ (and /leftypol/ too). This kind of shit won't stop till people learn 2 chill.

>>59675439
The butthurt won't stop until leftists learn to stop "resisting" the president and acting hysterically. I've wanted nothing more than for shit to calm down to be honest, but certain people keep injecting politics into anything and everything where it doesn't belong. That's the real problem here, the politicization of everything. The elections were just the vessel for all of the pent up rage to finally release.

>>59675295
The consumer doesn't devalue a doctor. Hospitals and clinics set their salaries. The public perception of doctors has nothing to do with how they're paid. How they're paid is between the doctors and the establishments they work with.

The consumer needs to devalue healthcare, i.e. stop going to hospitals and clinics until prices go down. Obviously that's not going to happen. It's not going to change in the future unless people are so healthy that they refuse medical visits and treatments unless it's at a lower cost.

>Doctors are great people, don't get me wrong, but there should be far more doctors, it should be easier to become a doctor, and, yes, they should be making less money.
You can only do that by deregulating. You're not going to convince kids to go through 8-10 years of hell and then make pennies. If you want more and cheaper doctors you need to allow people to practice medicine without a medical degree. You want cheaper shit? You have to lower the barriers to entry.

>thread about revolutionary technology
>/pol/luters turn it into yet another non west non white bashing fest
>bring nothing but le mastah race we iz kangs
Why cant you fuckers stay in your containment board for once?

Also Asia>West you fucking cucks

>>59675295
>it doesn't change the fact that if doctors were devalued then the cost of healthcare would plummet

It wouldn't. The profits would just increase for the middle men and the patients wouldn't save a penny. In Capitalism the cost of a service does not affect the price of a service.

The reason a hip replacement costs $40,000 is because a group of important people sat down and decided Americans were willing to pay $40,000 for that procedure. It doesn't matter it if costs them $2000 or $6000 to perform the surgery. The end user will pay $40,000 either way.

It's like how the price for a barrel of oil drops by half but the price of gasoline doesn't change much. A product or service is sold for the the amount that the buyer is willing to pay. No more, no less.

Healthcare is the same way. If doctor salaries were cut in half the hospitals and investors would just pocket the difference because they know they how much the end user is willing to pay.

>>59665442
wasn't a lot of this tech like completely enclosed farming bunkers supposed to be shipped off to africa for their asia colonies?

>>59675549
please refer to:
>>59675348
now kill yourself

>>59675549
>Hitler was literally a weeaboo
>Asian achievements somehow justify blacks, arabs and spics being human garbage

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>>59668026
>>59665755
my phone camera is garbage sorry

this pic is from a little bit ago, I use those thermal coats at wal mart to reflect light & heat it keeps roots super cold & they're like $2 at wal mart or a sports store
I use a bladder pump
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017NVG1I8/
and these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011POK25M/

I am still learning how to effectively spread all of my mist throughout the barrel

and I get ideas from guys like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvfCXNCXkdU

and I buy solenoids and use pvc to allow / disallow nutrients and water into the loop
I use water level sensors to kick on a solenoid to fill up my water level bucket and for every 10 seconds of it being on I add 1/8th teaspoon of 20-20-20 (NPK) Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium feed, remember plants have 12 nutrients they like those are the 3 main macro nutrients
some feeds have a lot of everything I found jack's was really good and gets down to like 25micron sizes or smaller it goes through my 25 micron screen
https://www.amazon.com/Peters-Classic-20-20-20-Purpose-Fertilizer/dp/B00BIO560G/

tomatoes like more calcium too so there is a tomato feed. remember when stuff flowers or fruits it wants a 12hour light cycle (weed has the most posts about this obviously) flowers (weed included) want potassium to bloom big however strawberries, tomatoes etc want more phosphorus
nitrogen promotes leaf growth in everything so it's a good thing to add from bat guano or fish pool too
and that's all jsut controlled by raspberry pi with a 8 port relay

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>>59675851
this is a strawberry he likes the sun

>>59675851
That's pretty neat anon. I've been considering making my own garden for a while now.

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>>59675925
the biggest issue with aeroponics I found was the grey mold as you create their perfect environment. The only real way to not have it is to never have it.. so make sure all your spores are non existent for it.. so I grow my seeds in aeroponics too and my room is clean from that I try to change clothes before I come inside my room

this pic turned out kinda bad my phone's like 3megapixel so I use this chinese go pro thing it is decent

my lights for these babies are 50 seconds on 10 seconds off (simulates clouds apparently and it saves electricity) my water sprayers are 10 seconds on 2 minutes off
let me ffmpeg this video real fast
you guys can steal the idea all my shit is from ebay, amazon & wal mart
I use an old liquid cooling water pump for these and it works well for the shitty sprayers (not misters) as they're super low pressure requiring

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IR7IUHM/

this powers my lights as they are 6-7volt
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4QVTNU/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122290201609?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=422777564903&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

you need ALL SPECTRUM led they are the BEST! these are a decent price too

I think my get request should give you the right stuff
5pcs 5 watt
all spectrum
with pcb

>>59669131
>>59668026
>>59675851
>>59675875
>>59675925
>>59676134
meh I gave up on the webm quality wasn't that good as it's already shit
at 3/4ths of the vid I try to show the roots coming out but that pic above shows it better
these are how I do babies I'm going to switch from tupperware to a 5 gallon bucket so it has more height to it though or maybe just use both one for seedlings 1 for teenagers

https://a.pomf.cat/lubtxn.mkv

that should work for the video

>>59665442
Hi Ugi.

>>59676326
oh and my big system is in the previous pic but it is currently down as I just harvested a lot of tomatoes and am fixing some stuff on it to reseal it better
everything I use all together had to be less than like $300 and I get year around vegetables.. minus the light. the lights are most expensive but I will build a greenhouse this summer.
Colorado has average same days of sun as LA, california however it gets really cold and windy so I have to build a strong one with a heater maybe

>>59676134

I genuinely have no idea why you're not just hand watering with a setup that small. You're risking contamination using an aero setup, every time you fill and mix a watering can you're getting a clean starting point.

I've seen plenty of setups with aero/forcefed/etc get entirely fucked up by not cleaning your setup properly, unless you're actually growing tomatoes in which case why the fuck aren't you growing the devils lettuce. I admire your passion, and I Strawberry is very cute, keep it up my dude.

We need more urban growers, you should write a really simple grow-log somewhere, I love reading through these and seeing these precious little babies grow into healthy and happy plants. Make sure you're treating them nicely, be gentle and throw on their favorite music. I generally play classical.

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>>59676431
I just did it to learn
I do grow the devils lettuce, but that's bigger scale and not indoor, my average plant last year was 12lbs medically ofc
legal in OR & CO and I have properties in both

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>>59676431
>>59676474
that is me it has the date there, we go till october take down

>>59665442
>cuck needs technology breakthrough to not allow foreign influx

https://archive.fo/W8pY3

>Why is Japan saving the west when they aren't even threatened?

Are you implying that the cheap labour is the sole reason of problems immigrants?

>>59676431
What do I do for a grow log?
I usually snapchat their progress lol.. though my phone camera is like worse than my old flip phone 10 years ago

>>59665815

It's a bit late now for them to become independent now, they can't go back to subsistence farming and try to pull themselves up by the bootstraps on their own without a huge population collapse first.

>>59665841

Anyone who says AI without irony doesn't develop anything used commercially.

>>59665442
There will always be one EXTREMELY important job, that requires NO education to perform, that robots CANNOT do autonomously, no matter HOW advanced they become.

cranking the generators

>>59676474
>>59676496
>>59676566

Ah okay, that makes way more sense. That's really solid man, keep up the learning then. As for those crops, they're gorgeous. I'm truly impressed. Looks like a really healthy setup too.

I would use Tumblr or Wordpress or something similar for ease of use. Unfortunately it's illegal to grow you're own medicine here so I don't do the logs myself but plenty of people also do them on forums. Just posting daily photos from the same spot or doing a time lapse. Anything that shows your progress from day to day over their cycle. If you need a cheapo camera for it, go check out Gearbest's action cameras. Waterproof stuff and what not. Great for all occasions.

I've been learning to produce CBD oil to help my mother with her condition as she's in constant pain. It's a really interesting avenue we're going down.

>>59670196
It's partly due to faux enviros who shun geoengineering, nuclear power, and GMOs

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>>59676699
thanks yea they hired me for 6 to 9 (69 hueuhuhe) months of the year to help manage & grow but I'm totally a /g/ tard, they just have me do automated systems and tell people what to do since I'm not a fuck-up hippie like 99% of Oregon is and can get shit done & do security etc

pic related my water system there for 100 plants

yea a time lapse would be cool, I might do that I can put up a pi cam that just takes a pic every hour

yea the CBD oil is cool there's lots of good controlled methods to get it out rather than cooking it in a fucking pot on a stove like people do hahaha, there are strains specific to that. I have an epilepsy patient who was having more than 100 seizures a month and has none now from medical cannabis so at least that's proven to work for seizures.. not sure why the government needs more than 1 reason to make it legal. whether or not it helps with more shit doesn't matter, it's still better than alcohol
I don't even smoke or drink I just think it's stupid to have one illegal when alcohol's clearly worse

>>59670196

All civilization lies in temperate zones, the only way global warming can fuck us if we let ourselves be convinced to commit cultural suicide.

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>>59665442
>Mfw Whites do all in their might to feed and support billions of subhuman leeches
>mfw slowly but surely everyone will become a useless uneducated mud supported by robots and government.

mankind was a mistake.

>>59673375

PWRs are well suited for powering vessels like the subs and carriers in the Navy where they are being babysat 24/7 by nuke techs, that doesn't mean its design works fucking everywhere.

Also I feel sorry for you being a Nuke, either you're masochistic and really wanted to do it or you foolishly fell for the kool-aid the recruiters fed you about Nuke techs.

I want /pol/ to leave

>>59665442
>destroy the immigration meme
Citation needed. They're going to start taking refugees in the near future whether they like it or not. Human rights will not take a back seat to racism in the 21st century.

>>59678374
>thinking the refugees are for human rights
>muh racism
Germany is taking refugees because krautfags are too pussified down to the point that they can't be alpha enough to have children. Same shit is happening o the japanese. If you factor money into it everything becomes clear.

>>59678374
>They're going to start taking refugees in the near future whether they like it or not.

They already have been accepting refugees. I think in 2016 they took in 21 refugees or something like that and I don't believe the current administration is looking to bring anymore than 50 for 2017.

>>59678374
There's nno reason why japan should take in refugees. WHy should a nation that had no part in creating the conditions that led to the displacement of these peoples have a responsibility to house them? If anything the US should be the ones to take refugees. They have much more space available than any Euro nation aside from Russia, and have lower cost of living than Japan or most non-shithole euro countries.

It's not about racism, it's about feasibility, it's about cost, it's about responsibility. Get back to your shithole university and consider taking a class in international relations, economics, and civil development.

>>59678374

>Human rights will not take a back seat to racism in the 21st century.

After Eurabia's social and economic collapse a lot of things will change. WW2 drama and jewish written for goy only human rights won't survive reality.

>>59665706
latin american here
poor countries already produce and sell a shitload of raw materials... and are still poor as fuck
it's not about who produces them, it's about who controls them... look at what's happening with oil, its prices and its consequences

>>59677851
>Also I feel sorry for you being a Nuke, either you're masochistic and really wanted to do it or you foolishly fell for the kool-aid the recruiters fed you about Nuke techs.

a little bit of both. its not anywhere near as good as they make it out to be, but its livable, if you dont mind literal autists.

>>59675549
all these non tech threads are the best threads on /g/

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>>59667508
>implying

>>59675851
Dude clean up your living areas you fucking pig. Seriously, how can you stand living like that?

>>59680124
Nothing is dirty in my room, stop crying and go outside and do something with your life.

>>59678457
>If you factor money into it everything becomes clear.
Taking in illiterate people from the third world isn't an economic boon. Kill yourself.

>>59667428
>containment board work
Since when?

>>59665442
>automate something
>but... muh jobs
HOLY FUCK WHY ARE WE AS A SPECIES SO RETARDED?
We WANT to work our assess off less! Why don't we do that?

Universal fucking income.

>>59675851
Have you heard of... outside?

>>59675851
God that's cool. Loving the recliner/rocking chair in front of the computer btw.

>>59681021
yes? I'm out there 14 hours a day.. did you not see my plants?

>>59681154
thanks, I love it.. got it on black friday like 8 years ago. best computer chair I've ever had I recommend them. about $250
mouse on the armrest is perfect for me

>>59665467
This is a Hungarian farming board. Where'd you think you were?

>>59680993
Homo sapien sapiens don't do well with unstructured time without blowing brains out

>>59675549
You're the cuck. It was the West who brought modern technology to Asia.

>>59675549
Fucking Weaboo doesn't even know about the Meiji Restoration.

>>59672167
Actually that shouldn't be such a surprise.

A child only wears diapers for a couple years. An elderly person could be wearing diapers for more than a decade.

So instead of "Japan's birth rate is so low that adult diapers are sold more than baby diapers", which is misleading because Japan's birth rate is not terribly low, it may be more correct that their life expectancy is so high that more people are reaching the ages where they need to use adult diapers than is considered normal in western countries.

Japan does have the longest life expectancy after all.

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>>59671980
The more I read articles about robotics and Japanese population trends in the same article, the more I'm thinking people are imagining/wishing for 100% robotic population.

And I quickly though of reploids, for some reason...

>>59667306
All commercial food is grown with pesticides. "Organic" labeled food is just grown with obsolete, and potentially more dangerous pesticides.

>>59670116
>and we only have about half a century before it's too late
That's the same bullshit some said back in the 80s. Climate change is going to happen like it or not, and not as a consequence of human actions (although it kinda helps the process) but rather as part of the natural global cycle of the earth. Of course you can expect massive extinctions.

zfsdfdsf

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>>59666932
More likely it will be a free internet connection that is being monitored 24/7 by the only industry that's not been cucked by AI, Civilian Surveillance.

>>59665467
I know it's really weird when every western country is getting taken over by a mass exodus of undesirables that immigration would be something a lot of people don't want.

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>>59681245
>mouse on the armrest

Ha! I do the same thing plus keyboard on the knees. Super comfy.

>>59686977
yea I got mine on the lap
only issue if I try to do an extremely fine line with my mouse it comes out a bit jagged but for literally anything other than drawing I have no issues

>>59680993
You can have ubi after you're permanently sterilized, nigger.

>>59680993
>Universal fucking income.
Just more commie bullshit that we don't need.

A /pol/ thread that momentarily transformed to a /diy/ thread, then it goes back to being a /pol/ thread.

Disappointing.

>>59687209
>prop up capitalism and drag its rotting corpse out for decades more
>commie bullshit

>>59685790 (You)
*100% robotic population of Japan.

Sorry, I didn't specify.
(The (You) part is there to verify it's the same anon.)

>>59665467
>>59665479
I'm a mexican and I can gladly tell you to fuck off to reddit

>>59687711
>prop up niggers making 10 retard killer babies
Suck off a shotgun faggot.

>>59681021
>Outside
>snow, pests, drought, Vietnamese food thieves and a lack of sunlight for a good chunk of the year
Yeah, I think I'll grow my food outside. Seems like a good idea

>>59674445
>your country will never be this xenophobic
fuck man

I'm really doubting that this is cost effective, and maintenance is probably a nightmare.

You're not going to have a lot of luck growing produce in a mechanical and industrial manner, you need machines that can behave more organically.

Or you can just say fuck it and grow weird engineered liquid nutrient slop or something.

B-B-B-BUT MUH BROWN COCK

MUH SOCIALIST VOTING BLOCS

THIS IS ANTI-SEMITISM

>>59667888
We should.

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>>59678374

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>>59667888
I've seen GNU/Linux threads on /pol/ a few times

>>59665442
>single handedly destroy the immigration meme at every turn
uh they have a big demographic problem because they don't allow any immigration and they don't have enough children

>>59667728
Im a nuclear engineer and you are retarded.

Wait isn't diversity strength? How is this happening?

>>59690912
>we have a shrinking population
>let's replace it by turd world savages
thanks to automatization they won't need many people, thats the point
take achmeds dick off your mouth faggot

>>59674521
I went to the doctor in Taiwan when I was sick with Flu B or something

All I went to was a walk-in clinic, with a couple nurses and a doctor from Harvard or something (diploma in the waiting room). They diagnosed me for Flu B and then pushed some antivirals into my vein, and then, since we told them we were from out of the country, they gave us an entire week's pills so that we wouldn't run out.

Since we were from out of the country, we couldn't use any insurance and had to pay out of pocket. It was around $15 dollars for the visit + whatever the pills cost (I think it was around $10-15 dollars).

Whatever they're doing there, I want it in the us

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>there are literally "people" RIGHT NOW who believe le immigration meme in 2016+1

W E W

>>59665467
/pol/ wouldn't have become so powerful if the mods of the past didnt ban politically incorrect post back in the early days of 4chan.

>>59667735
>expecting dumbshit frog posters to read all that

>>59667878
Fat chance, they are paid to come here and make trouble for intellectuals.

>>59665442

>Why is Japan saving the west when they aren't even threatened?

Because the United States is literally written into the Japanese constitution. We're pretty much their military.

>>59667841
>>59667878
KEKS, you should really make the thread so you can see that people there will either, a) discuss the topic or b) completely ignore your thread, unlike yourselves who just post in the thread to bitch about your pol boogeyman

>>59665442

>WE NEED MORE POOR DUMB BROWN PEOPLE TO "DO THE JOBS YOU DON'T WANT TO DO (FOR SLAVE WAGES)!"

I thought we were automating all those jobs though...?

>RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING WHITE MAN GIVE ME MONEY RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59665442

Because Japan has low birth rate like Western countries, but is "raciss" and therefore doesn't want Brown Hordes inside the wall to take care of jobs they don't want to pay some dumb slacker 50 grand a year to do.

So they invent robots and automated processes to do it for them.

Necessity/Mother/All That

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>>59666697

We'll be living in mega cities all right. But they're going to resemble pic related.

Automation coupled with massive third world migration and lack of support for regional areas will see humans in the bottom 80% of the income bracket consigned to lives of squalor, violence and exploitation, akin to those of the serfs and peasants of the pre-industrial eras. They will work 100 hour weeks as prostitutes and novelty servants for the wealthy for food vouchers. There will be no need to travel as anywhere outside of a few centralized economic zones will just be devoid of life and either be abandoned wastelands or the nature reserves of the wealthy and powerful.

Corporations will run advertisements championing the basic housing and food services they supply us, which will be akin those given to slaves and indentured agricultural workers in ancient times. It will be minimal, but it won't be elegant.

You'll have tall tales to tell to your mutated grand kids about the time when you could afford a motor vehicle (of course, you had to drive it yourself, unlike the wealthy who now utilize driverless vehicles that are programmed to stop when they strike down road urchins because of the fear of ambush).

>>59668442

We have less people buying houses. And prices increase every year. We just have a smaller pool of people buying a larger amount of houses.

>Wages go up

They go down, because now you are getting a steady increase in labor with less and less jobs and more competition for existing jobs.

>>59670116

It means we need to stop supporting and financing massive reproduction rates in the third world.

How much cheaper do you need your labor to me?

Now with automation perhaps we'll stop demanding Africans have 16 kids to ship to the west to Do The Jobs You Don't Want To Do.

>Universal basic income is the next step

That's just going to encourage more massive over reproduction.

>>59670982

>We can all drive to work

And kill the environment even faster.

Nice long term thinking you've got there buddy.

>>59671938
>Japan's biggest problem right now is an aging population with a declining birth rate. They need those 7 workers paying into social security.

No. You're thinking of the U.S., Australia and Europe.

Japan's social security standards are (by the standards of a first world "western" nation) shockingly low. Their treatment of their elderly would cause much hand wringing and 60 minutes specials here. You're expected to have a family that will care for you or put aside enough to care for yourself. Which may or may not be linked to their feelings on immigrant labor.

>The only solution is to let the robot take those 7 jobs and then give the seven people it replaced a redundant "make-work" project to keep them employed in the area.

The entire motivation behind mass migration is to fill the labor ranks out with affordable laborers and to increase your tax contributions. All you have to do is turn off the migrant tap, really. Since first world birth rates are already approaching negative levels.

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>>59667467
>Their most important goods are batteries, LED and steel.
>Literally nothing

>>59665755
"""vegetables"""

>>59699591
yes well tomatoes, lettuce, basil, thyme, oregano are usually considered vegetables. but I do have strawberries

>>59699636
SMOKE WEED ERRY DAYY