Telegram: the best /g/ messenger, now has Voice Calls: Secure,

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>Each time you make a Voice Call on Telegram, a neural network learns from your and your device‘s feedback (naturally, it doesn’t have access to the contents of the conversation, it has only technical information such as network speed, ping times, packet loss percentage, etc.). The machine optimizes dozens of parameters based on this input, improving the quality of future calls on the given device and network.

>These parameters can also be adjusted during a conversation if there's a change in your connection. Telegram will adapt and provide excellent sound quality on stable WiFi — or use less data when you walk into a refrigerator with bad reception.

>According to our tests, Telegram Calls are already superior to any of our competitors on comparable connections. But the quality of Telegram Calls will further improve as you and others use them, thanks to the built-in machine learning.

Complete Control

>If you’re like us, you don’t like to be bothered. On Telegram, you can control who can and who can't call you with granular precision. You can even switch voice calls off altogether, blocking anyone and everyone from calling you.

>By default, Telegram calls are lightweight and automatically adapt to the speed and type of your connection, so as to consume the least data possible. But if you want to reduce your data spending by another 25-30% at the expense of sound quality, you’re welcome to enable the Use Less Data option in Data and Storage Settings.

No Added Calories

>Telegram is the most powerful messaging platform out there, but it is also famous for being the easiest one to use. We want to keep things this way, and that’s why by default we won’t clutter your screen with additional tabs and redundant buttons.

>Once you start making calls, Telegram for iOS will offer you to add a dedicated tab for calls on the main screen of the app. Alternatively, you can turn the Calls tab on right away from the Recent Calls section in Settings. On Android, the call tab is accessible via the pull-out main menu on the left.

>It‘s always easy to make a call, even if you’ve never opened the calls tab. As soon as Voice Calls are enabled for your country, a phone icon will appear on every profile page. On Android, you can also call from the ‘…’ menu in a chat.

One more thing

>For those of you who don’t do voice calls, v.3.18 brings something different: direct control over the quality of videos you share. Use this brand-new setting to select the degree of compression before sending a video. For the first time in the history of messaging, you can preview how the recipient will see your video before you send it.

>The app will remember the compression rate you selected and will use it by default for your future video uploads.

quality info thread

but no one uses telegram

>>59654327
At CS/E of my uni everyone does, actually

>>59654327
/g/ definitely uses Telegram because I speak to other /g/entoomen on it.

They haven't even bothered releasing the source code of the last three versions of the client.

>>59654468
To hide this feature, duh. The code will be out after this.

>>59654501
if its going to be out anyway why not share it?

>>59654501
It's a bad precedent nonetheless. I've already started moving important contacts to other services that actually respect our Freedoms.
The devs of the desktop clients also refuse to implement basic features like secret chats and saving chat logs to disk for no good reason.

>you and your recipient just need to compare four emoji over the phone

Into the trash it goes.
Stop shilling this app.

>>59654225
15 roubles were deposited to your FSBank™ account.

Telegram is lovely and Russian spying > US spying

falling apart the meme its true

Now, Telegram is the most complete and best in work app that exist.

>Quick
>Cloud Pc/tablet/mobile
>stickers
>Jojo Stickers
>good design
>no normies

Why not just call that person on the fucking phone?

>>59656142
Because you need a phone for that, while telegram can be installed on pc

>>59656718
True true didn't think of that.

>>59654225
>proprietary server

no, thanks

>>59654952
Telegram is trash, there is quite literally a PhD thesis a guy wrote that completely broke Telegram and they just ignored it.

Wire is also trash. Stop using trashy junk.

Signal includes an entire library that's open source, this means you can write an app today that uses nick/nyms instead of phone numbers and get all the protections of a proper crypto system without having to rely on phone numbers. It's trivial to remove that part from the (open source) program and drop in nyms instead. Moxie doesn't do it for various professional dev reasons but no reason anybody here can't do it for their own app

>>59654225
>>59654251
>>59654272
>Telegram: the best /g/ messenger

No, you fucking shill, it will never be /g/ app.

Demonsaw is and will be /g/ messenger app

All hail Eijah

>>59654597
end to end encryption, not end to ends. at least that was my understanding of it.

>>59657122
He says while he posts on proprietary 4chan.

>>59656718
There is no encryption for desktop version

>>59657368
Signal still demands your real identity to use it.

>>59654587
to be competitive.

>>59654597
>I've already started moving important contacts to other services that actually respect our Freedoms.

like?

>>59656142
Because phone calls cost money and sound like shit.

>>59657497
>Demonsaw is and will be /g/ messenger app

said nobody ever

>>59657885
>sound like shit
Not for me.

>>59657907
Shut up you tech illiterate faggot, /g/ loves Demonsaw, unlike your shitty app is not a scam that fools people into false sense of security.

>>59657885
>doesn't have hd calls
what year is it over there anon?

>>59654225
>>59654251
>"AI"


fucking lmao

>>59657981
>implying everybody you call supports HD calls

I have more people on Whatsapp than HD calling.

>>59657725
Yes. E2E encryption is awfully gimped and homegrown in Telegram anyway. The axolotl protocol (Signal, OMEMO, Olm) implents E2E properly.

>>59657855
Conversations and Linphone

>>59658148
>Linphone

what happened to csipsimple?

>>59654438
yeah, but just for memes and lulz. to talk with actual people you need whatsapp or fb messanger

>>59658176
Looks kind of dead to me. Their main repo is still on Google code and the latest release on f-droid is 2 years old.

>AI powered
what?

>>59658363
yeah but linphone is an ugly, messy, buggy app

why don't we have a good sip client yet?

Is Telegram a /g/ creation?

Fuck off, shill.

Telegram is nothing more than a honeypot for Arabs, not a serious security minded messaging protocol/platform. MTProto is not confirmed as secure, and more than that the entire platform isn't open sourced; only the client side of things. They've waved off several accomplished people's theses and dissertations that bring up and explain well researched flaws/exploits, doing nothing to fix said issues.

There is already a proven, reliable, and more importantly audited, client/protocol out in the wild that uses a rock solid encryption schema: Signal. Build a client around that, or wait for a full audit of the source of the next meme client before using anything else.

>>59658391
how is it buggy?

>>59659366
It crashes for me. Why do you think it has a 3.9 rating on the play store?

>>59659421
right as you open it? or when you make a call?

>>59659447
sometimes when I make a call.

>>59659533
ah, that's a bit annoying. are they working on fixing this bug?

>>59659602
no idea. I gave up trying to use it with another person and use csipsimple with opus.

>>59658391
Wasn't jitsi getting ported to android?

>>59657968
>Demonsaw
literally the first time i have heard about it

LINE is better than Telegram and is from an actual established company instead of some fly by night group of jackoffs who popped up among the mass of WhatsApp clone makers.

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>>59658264
you must be 13 to post here, please leave

>>59657968
>closed source

Nice try, NSA

>>59657368
>there is quite literally a PhD thesis a guy
Where? Do you have any sources?

>>59658148
>>>59657725
>E2E encryption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome

>>59657735
Yes now the nsa, cia and fbi all know i hate telegram

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>>59661501
>end to end encryption

>the best /g/ messenger

That isn't Wire or Signal or XMPP.

Kakao Talk, WeChat, and Line as well for azn qts

>>59657368
>Signal includes an entire library that's open source, this means you can write an app today that uses nick/nyms instead of phone numbers and get all the protections of a proper crypto system without having to rely on phone numbers. It's trivial to remove that part from the (open source) program and drop in nyms instead. Moxie doesn't do it for various professional dev reasons but no reason anybody here can't do it for their own app

Didn't the guy that wrote Signal threaten someone who did exactly this?

>>59661936
Fag

>>59654327
>but no one uses telegram
Literally everyone I know uses telegram
I live in the US

Stop talking to fucking children you high schooler

or be a man and get people to use non garbage messengers

>>59654438
..are you in one of my /g/roups?

>>59654438
>>59664041
Post group link plz

>>59664046
Nigger its not like /g/ assembles in a chat its usually general threads or a group that sticks to a certain topic.

>>59664041
maybe

>>59664395
ok well if you are say "who here has eaten at a steakhouse and brazil?" and if you get a response informing you that someone has a cousin who has then that someone is me.

The encryption in Telegram is a joke. There was a recent story in Europe about the feds reading some kebab terrorists conversations, which were on Telegram

>>59654952
>Jojo stickers
>no normies
Kill yorself normalfag

>>59663889

Wow. Rude.

>>59654225
>reviews it
Telegram's crypto STILL sucks. This is like a shit ZRTP with only 4 emoji to help it, and there's no operational channel binding.

And the VBR problem. At least they're using Opus - so it's not as apparent - but Wire had the right idea there to make it CBR (they actually responded to my bug report!) and you should probably use that instead. Or Signal, if you've got a phone number on that device (again, CBR for the audio channel is coming there).

>>59657368
Usernames in Signal are (eventually!) coming, along with the desktop client Mk.2 - now that the protocol has been fully documented, Moxie's stance (caused by working with CyanogenMod who couldn't keep their TextSecure integration up to date in the early days) has softened. I think they're looking to try Electron first: wouldn't be my first choice (going native and reusing Wire's Axolotl implementation in Rust, Proteus, would), but it works for Discord.

>>59658469
No. Pavel Durov.

>>59659359
Correct.

>>59659947
The stickers are cute.

>>59664046
Telegram has NO encryption for groups. You'd be better off using Discord DESU.

>>59665912
This.

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why do you think creator of biggest russian botnet vk.com, who hides his baldness will respect you and your privacy?

>>59666405
Yeah I agree. Telegram's calling function needs a lot of fixes. Signal actually did their calling right.

>>59665912
Russian police or fsb literally intercepted verification sms codes for some russian political activists' telegrams and took all their message history.
Was on news around 6 month ago.
Just because telegram works like this by default.

>>59666431
VK always unironically had better UI and overll design than pajeetbook, until recently tho. Since Pavel sold his company to russian Alphabet, now it is flatmeme with circle avatars.

>>59666405
>I think they're looking to try Electron first

fucking puke

>>59659972
Don't those liberal hippy SJWs know they are gonna be the first ones killed once the Marxists take control? Man they would be in for a rude awakening

>>59666431
>Hey, Pavel, delet all this pirated music!
>I won't, no reason, people will just upload it again.
>Do it, RRRREEE!
>No.

>>59654225
>requires phone number to register
>closed source
>best /g/ messenger, gais!

>>59667980
But its open source, you fag

>>59667994
But not the server

>>59667994
Can I self host it?

>>59654327
I do, and so do a few of my friends.

>>59654438
Literally only niggers and kids on those groups.

>>59666705
Russian police =/= FSB

>>59654616
You're one of those people who actually have no friends at all, but at the same time want to pretend they have which is why you test every shitty messenger app there is. Problem is: you can only write messages to yourself, b/c no friends.
That's why it's easy for you to say "Into the trash it goes": you never would have used it anyway.

>>59668230
You don't even belong on /g/