RX 480 or GTX 1060? I can't seem to decide. The 1060 has

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RX 480 8gb.
The 1060 is too locked down for overclocking.
And in general does worse against the RX 480.

>>59619439

Non of there cards will last long because no GPU does. You buy the the one which is the best for NOW.

Needless to say, that's the GTX 1060.

>>59619482
You're wrong in both points.

>>59619497

No you

>buying nvidia
>any year

>>59619521
But what if you want the fastest GPU, anon?

>>59619561
Wait for vega

>>59619571
Fucking piece of /waitfag/ shit. If people are constantly waiting for the next model, people would never buy anything. There are /waitfags/ actually waiting for the gtx 2000 series ffs

RX480 is better and cheaper than the 1060

>>59619439
Here's what's gonna happen.
Everyone on /g/ is gonna tell you to get the 480 because it's the better card (and it is).

But what you're gonna do is you're gonna ignore all the advice and buy the 1060 because you've already made the choice in your head and you were just looking for validation.

480, preferably 8GB if you don't upgrade every few years.

1060 is a weaker card overall, but the 480 is hampered by poor drivers placing undue load on the CPU, allowing the 1060 and its better-optimized drivers to shine where the driver needs to do the talking (DX11). With DX12, the shift moves back to the GPU and the driver means less, allowing developers to exploit the raw advantage the 480 has over the 1060.

>>59619482
Maybe if you buy fucking Nvidia like a sheep.

AMD cards last much longer. The 480 is getting rebranded.

>>59619626
Lmao i guess you are one of those sheeps that buy the flagship every generation

>>59619743
No, cuz that would be stupid. You buy the best when you got a very outdated card.

How true is the meme that nvidia gimps their older cards with driver updates? Is planned obsolescence on the green team real? How much would this matter for VFIO GPU passthrough?

>>59619685
OP here. Actually it was the opposite, i was thinking of buying the 480 since I saw for myself that it is somewhat of a better choice, but everyone seemed to shill the 1060 instead. So I asked, here, and now surprise surprise, I am gonna get the 480 as i said first.

>>59619782
Stay away from AMD's shitty reference design unless you absolutely need a blower moving air out of the case rather than inside it, and don't care about worse GPU temps.

>>59619755
Oh so you buy a card and then /wait/ until it gets old and then buy a new one. Sounds like you might be a waitfag. ;>

>>59619782

Get the 1060 6GB dumbass, everyone here's is shilling/trolling for AMD. But the RX 480 is a piece of shit.

I bough a RX 480 4GB ARMOR for a sidegrade from a GTX970, and ended up selling the 480 and kept the meme card.

>>59619778

I still run a GTX 760 and it literally as fast as on launch.

So, no*.

*sample size = 1.

>>59619838
Don't put words in my mouth. You buy WHEN you need. If tomorrow I would need a component, I would go and buy it. Not waiting 6 months for it.

>>59619859
You picked the shittiest, cheapest, smallest 480, and wonder why it was shit? Buying MSI bargain crap was your fault.

>>59619922

What? It never crossed your mind that the GTX 970 might be a better functioning GPU?

>>59619439
>Moreover that 6gb of vram seems kind of not so long lasting
Does it? Maxed out GTA5 tops out around 3GB for me.

>>59619946
>970

>>59619949
you have to remember thought that GTA V was developed in 2013, even though it was ported to PC much later in 2015. Also devs sometimes launch garbage ports that rely on more raw performance rather than actual optimization. That extra vram could make up for it

>>59619439
RX 480

Just buy a rx480, freesync monitors are way cheaper than gsync ones

>>59619949
GTA 5 is a fucking turd of a game that cant do 60fps maxed out on any gpu

Hol up, Vega is (((Just Around The Corner))) guys

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/56848/amd-teases-radeon-rx-vega-just-around-corner/index.html

>>59620068
Sure, but it's a open world game with lots of unique and sharp textures.

I feel before 6gb becomes a problem 2060 will be out.

>>59619439
>Moreover that 6gb of vram seems kind of not so long lasting compared to 8gb.
The difference between 6 and 8 isn't that massive today. And in any scenario where a game is really utilizing all 6/8GB, you'd be better off with the 1070 anyway. You might not need to return to system memory as often with more VRAM, but that doesn't mean the chip itself will be performing well. It just won't hit a sharp dropoff as quickly.

>>59620134
I forgot to add, that's if you're ok with 1080p.

>>59620120
>hes to new to remember nvidiots crying for people to wait for fermi, kepler, and maxwell

>>59619685
>ignore all the advice and buy the 3gb """1060""" instead
fixed that for you

>>59620218
> 3gb 1060
absolute shit even the 470 is better, let alone the 480 4gb

>>59619922
I overclocked the core to 1350Mhz and the memory to 9000Mhz, so I admit that the memory overclocked pretty good. But my point is that the "shittiest version" I had like you said, it was OCed to the max, pretty much to Nitro 8GB levels. And still, the performance wasn't that great compared to my overclocked GTX970. Also I had several issues with emulation (Cemu) which I mostly use.
So yeah, I had to keep my fucking meme card. Also there were other issues with the new AMD drivers.

>>59619439
considering the 1060 is better in 5 of the 6 major AAA games this year by quite some distance, that's the obvious choice. muh tflop and muh finewine can't help if most games have gameworks.

>>59619946
>3.5
>better functioning than anything

at least the 480 doesn't lie about its ram

>>59620503
>Major AAA gaymes
all trash

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>>59620521
>thread is about which is better for games
>facts suggest 1060 is better this year
>"g-games don't c-count"

>>59620547
>all triple a social justice infused gaymes are the only games

>>59620570
>trusting amd drivers to work with indie titles
>trusting amd drivers to work with lesser known mmo's

amd still haven't fixed the flickering water driver bug in ESO.

>>59619439
What the fuck even uses DX12 or Vulkan?
Doom? BF1?
Even BF1 runs worse on DX12 (Mantle feel).

Just get a 1060 if you can afford it.
If you can't, get the 480.

Had a similar dilemma, but since they were around the same price, and no one uses Vulkan/DX12, I went 1060. Lovin muh Ciri waifu's hair.

>>59620603
>MMO's
complete autism and full of chinks and hues

>trusting amd drivers
>AMD HAS SHIT DRIVERS TRUST ME GOYIM
why do i have a feeling that you have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about

>>59620658
i don't know about 480 drivers and by the looks of it they're probably decent because they release day 1 updates for rx 480 and new games now, however i still have vivid memories of crimson launching when i had my 390. most games would crash all the time. gta 5 wouldn't run for more than 30 mins to 2 hours without crashing. i had to run in dx10 mode for like 6 months before they finally fixed it.

also,
>games don't count!

stop repeating yourself.

>>59620705
i have a 290x and games never crashed, also gta 5 is a fucking awful port

So you are too stupid to use a amd gpu, fantastic

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>>59620799
>it's all a lie and conspiracy!
>amd have never made any bad drivers ever!
>it's all the consumers fault, amd can't do anything wrong!

quit the delusion. it's a well documented fact the 390 had problems with crimson.

>>59620857
and i never had any of those, stop being delusional, nvidia's driver have been way worse in both the past and the present

>>59621026
>and i never had any of those

so because

1. you own a whole different gpu
2. never had those problems

it means they never occurred and/or were a massive issue plaguing owners of r9 390? this guarantee's you're a paid amd shill. i'm all for amd but it's people like you who make us all look like idiots.

>>59621068
>290x and 390 are differnet gpus
are you retarded?

>le paid to have a opinion

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>>59621102
>he unironically thinks the 290x was rebranded to the 390
>what is the 290

>>59621137
still same gpu, same core, same architecture

its a gimped version of the same gpu

>>59619439
480
The 1060 will be gimped.

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What's the most compact rx480 /470 ?
I have room for 20-22 cm lenght max (7.8-8.6 inches)

more than 22 (8.6 inch) and i'll reach the drive bays.Not a real problem, i have room there, but it'll look messy and will get cramped

I can get a 1060 mini (around 20cm) but they cost more than the 480.(at least here in 23%vat land)

The ideal would be 1050ti size, but this card is less powerful than the 1060 or even the 470

The 480 8gb
> I hit over 6gb Vram in tomb raider on 1080p
>480 getting rebranded. Will be supported longer.

I had a 7850 2gb before and that shit was supported and still optimized after 6yrs. I see this trend happening again with the 400 series given rebrands.

>>59619439
Either will work.

>>59621331
the smallest is Sapphire's at 230mm

I don't know.

Would you rather buy Pajeets meme card for poorfags or play The Way it's Meant to be Played.

>>59619482

Have to agree with >>59619497 on this one.

Bought 7970 on it's launch when 1080p was the 1440p of our time and never looked back. It still plays every game on medium to ultra at 60 fps easily gonna buy vega if it offers 1080 performance or go with 1080ti if it doesn't.

On the 480 vs 1060 thing, you are objectively wrong. Cards trade blows at Dx11 while 480 wins in Dx12 easily. There is no question that 480 is the better card.

>>59622629
nigga he's exactly right. why would anyone buy a "future proof" $200 card? it doesn't matter which one you buy because they'll both be shit in 3 years time. he's perfectly right when he says get the best card right now. your 7970 is a whole different story and cost $600 on release.

Gtx 1060

decided to give AMD a try and went for a rx480

everything is fine. feels good to be able to max everything at 60fps again even with my ancient i7 950

>>59619439
I have an RX480. they are almost the same except one major thing: the rx480 has better OSS linux support and the 1060 has CUDA.

If openCL wont get better until my next buy cycle ill get an NVIDIA

4gb or 8gb?

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>>59619482
On most newer tittles Rx480 performs better. The better games get at multi-threading the better it will become. So, Rx 480 is the better card now. I do agree that both of them are 2 year usage cards at best.

>>59623765
4gb one got 7ghz memory speed while 8gb got 8ghz. Most cards in this generation are memory bandwidth starved so there is actually a tangible performance difference between the 4gb and 8gb even with low vram usage. I got the sapphire nitro+ 4gb version and its memory overclocked just fine to 8.6ghz(2150x4). It also has samsung memory while others companies have used micron/hynix memory on the 4gb version. I think my card is actually a bios locked 8gb to 4gb card. Its actually faster than gtx 1060 at 2.15ghz in most dx11 games when running above 1420mhz core clock.

>>59619439
The RX480 is like half the price of the 1060 where I live. Sorry Jews.

>>59624032
Let's see the asic, fuccboi

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>>59624242
Quite bad, actually. Still runs okay at 1430.

>>59624346
Lel mine is like 69

>same speed
>8gb ram
>free adaptive sync
>cheaper in many cases, at least here in EU

the fuck are waiting for? Unless you spend 10 hours a day playing one game which favors the 1060, get the RX480.

Oh, oh, or maybe wait two weeks, the RX580 is out soon. It's a RX480 rehash with slightly higher clock speed and tweaks. If it isn't impressive, you can probably find a cheap RX480 on clearance then

>>59624032
>On most newer tittles Rx480 performs better. The better games get at multi-threading the better it will become. So, Rx 480 is the better card now. I do agree that both of them are 2 year usage cards at best.

it's not though. see >>59620503

1060 is better out of the box and you can actually overclock it, unlike the 480. I have a 480 and it is absolute shit.

>>59624503
That was at launch. In AMD's usual fashion they get their optimizations in over the next few months with optimizations for big new released as they come out rather than in one big lump at release and then per-game when new games come out like Nvidia does.

>>59624642
Is it a gigabyte card? Post asic.

>>59619439
Go for the 1060, AMD's drivers suck dick. My last AMD gpu was nothing but headaches and problems until I actually got rid of it.

It's the sad reality, I know the shills will come out and say that I'm full of shit but I don't care. Go Nvidia, don't fall for the amdmeme.

I get it, rooting for the underdog is cool and all that... until you spend hours troubleshooting issues with a piece of shit gpu.

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>>59619482
this post is so wrong it needs more replies pointing out how wrong it is

>>59624688
no. the 1060 wins in for honor, ghost recon, mass effect, halo wars 2, sniper elite 4 etc

these are all recent games

>>59624689
Sapphire; not at home right now but ASIC is ~69% iirc.

AMD intentionally gimp their cards at launch and you have to wait at least 6 months to get to use them wholly, why would you support such practices?

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>>59624715
Sorry to hear that you had issue anon. But your past experience is irrelevant to the current gpu generation. AMD has finally got their shit together when it comes to drivers.

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>>59624032
im not sure about you but theres VERY little gain from overclocking memory. i mean less than 1fps so i dont see much of a point in overclocking it seeing as it bumps the voltage by quite a bit
at least on my 390 it does

>>59619439
I only buy superior Nvidia products because they fit in my ass just right.

>>59619482
>Non of there cards will last long because no GPU does

Still using my 290X more than three years later. Still outperforms both of these meme cards in many games.

THANK YOU BASED HAWAII

>>59623410
The market is moving to 1440p/4K, so I think any of those cards will be plenty for 1080p for a long ass time.

>>59619469
I run at 2150 megahertz, stock clocks are around 1700 so it's a great overclocker you nigger

>>59619439
I don't buy failed GPUs binned to the poor man

>>59626242
Both the 480 and 1060 are fully-enabled chips though.

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>>59626202
Mine's at 2070 It's locked down as fuck via voltage and you know it.

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>>59619439
>RX 480
>GTX 1060
I like the GTX 480.

>>59626254
can you post your oc with the (you) in the back?

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>>59626333
Yeah.
Only hit's 55c.
>>59626254
>>59626202

>>59626333
So you got anything to add?
Or did you pass out when you saw your get?

>>59626120
The 480 will only give you 2-3 fps (mostly) when you OC the mem. It's the bandwidth starved 1060 that can get up to 10 fps when you bump the mem

>>59626306
How did you get your temps that low?

I have bought a RX480 MSI.

Tbh the main reason you go for this card, is the monitor you are using or gonna use.

G-Sync is a very expensive feature.

>>59626857
I don't know. Just happened one day.

>>59626857
>gtx 480
You defy death everyday.

i dont think you could go wrong with either.
both have strong points but both have their issues.

>>59619439
They are both poorfag cards, and if you envision yourself being a poorfag for at least a few years, you should stick with the RX 480, since it's more likely that it will still be getting driver support then.

Maxwell/Pascal is moderately more efficient than GCN, but half of Nvidia's performance advantage is from an insane driver optimization team, who only give two shits about newest-gen cards.

Currently have an AMD R9 290x

Should I upgrade and what should I upgrade to?

Under $400 suggestions. Is it even worth it under that price? I will use a 1080p monitor for a couple more months.

get the 1060. But if you are willing to spend extra get the 480 at 8GB.

I got an RX 480 at 4GB and regret it.

>>59629176
Your options are literally 1070 or wait for Vega.
I don't know why you would buy anything before your monitor though.

>>59629412

I have a 1080p monitor already. New GPU means I play current games better. New monitor before new GPU means I play games worse and it would drive me nuts.

>>59619439
Buy a 1060 and get more frames in old games.
Buy a 480 and get more frames in new games.


Why is this even a question OP?

>>59629176
this
>>59629412
480/1060 are not nearly enough of an upgrade from a clocked 290x. At least wait for 580 if you're going anything lower than 1070.

>>59629492
When's the 580 coming out?

>>59629206
lol neither the 1060 nor the 480 come close to being able to utilize the full vram cache as they're way too bandwidth limited to make use of it effectively.
rx 480 just about never reaches 100% vram usage either

>>59629176
Wait for Vega, I dont see any reason to upgrade your 290x other than you have money right now and you dont know what the fuck to do with it.....let me guess. You dont know what the fuck to do with it.

>>59629527

I'm getting stationed in Germany. Can't take one of my guns with me. A friend offered to buy me the monitor or GPU under $400 for it on his Newegg card so his wife didn't find out.

>>59629513
4gb 480 never uses the full 4gb neither*

>>59619439
>If they are same price then 480
>if 6gb 1060 is cheaper buy that instead
>do not buy the 3gb 1060 it is garbage

The power is roughly equivalent however two things that push the 480 ahead of the 1060 are its better drivers and hairworks performance. Crimson Relive drivers on AMD are dick simple and require no registration for updates like kike-force experience and the their drivers are more stable (less crashing, I have a 1070 and a 480 and my 1070 randomly crashes several times times with game clients, only one crash with the 480 so far)

with hairworks things get interesting. You cant do ultra 1080p 60fps with max hairworks on a 480 but you can run limited hairworks with some AA and push higher framerates than a 1060 can which is strange since nvidia is supposed to be better optimized for that. This would explain why reviewers never do benchmarks with hairworks on anymore because it no longer gimps AMD and actually gimps nvidia

Truth is that i only bought the 1070 because i needed more power and AMD did not offer a card in that bracket so i had no choice if there was a 490 in that speed class i would have bought that instead the crimson drivers alone make AMD the better buy when price and performance are equal

>>59629595
That's very untrue. Games today can use 4GB, and in some cases more.
Pretty sure Doom even locks away some texture options if you only have 4GB.

Not saying you'd necessarily want to be using an RX480 or GTX1060 in these scenarios, but they do happen. Especially at higher resolutions.