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What is the best Nvidia GTX 1070 GPU, /g/? My trusty 280x has

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What is the best Nvidia GTX 1070 GPU, /g/?

My trusty 280x has been chugging along for some time now, and I really want to upgrade. I can't however, justify the price tags for 1080/Ti and Vega probably will be the same price as 1080Ti, so I'm settling for 1070.
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>>59609858
Any EVGA with iCX
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>>59609873
Why specifically iCX? What's so great about it?
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>>59609919

You get that premium feel that does not come with the lesser models.
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>>59609858
EVGA has the best customer support but their cards are pretty middle of the pack.

MSI gaming and ASUS strix have the most silent and coolest models (respectively).

Palit and Gainward the best but can be hard to find.
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>>59610112
>EVGA has best customer support and software, coolers are decent but high quality
>MSI and strix both have horrible customer support, MSI cards have shitty coolers, strix cards have decent coolers but fans break easily
>Palit and Gainward best
>gigabyte meh
FTFY
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>>59611360
>ASUS Strix and MSI
This
Asus fan blades break so damn easily and their customer support fucking sucks, MSI will just flash your bios and send it back to you or both will just send you a refurbished model
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>>59609858
I got a PNY GeForce GTX 1070 XLR8 with the triple fan cooler 320 new off Ebay. Doesn't go over 60C with an oc.
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>>59609919
It's an improvement with the mistakes they learned from ACX 3.0 in mind. Unfortunately, it's only offered on the FTW and Classified models. Just save yourself the extra money and get the stock clocked or Superclocked ACX model instead.
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>>59609858
Cheapest one you can find. Pascal is so locked down that even the worst model can "overclock" to 2ghz.
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>>59611743
The reason pascal overclocks so far is because clock for clock it's weaker
If you put a 1.5 ghz 980ti next to a 1.5ghz 1080 the 980ti would mop the floor with it, and 2ghz etc. Where as with maxwell if you overclocked by 200mhz you would get 15-20 extra fps, with pascal you would get 5-10 extra fps from a 200mhz overclock
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>>59611777
They're volt and power locked and we still don't have a bios editor and probably wont get one. I'd pick up a cheap evga.
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>>59611698
>FTW and Classified models
FTW 2 and Superclocked 2 only.
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>>59612866
No
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>>59612932
Yes.
http://www.evga.com/articles/01084/evga-icx/
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wait for vega anon

https://youtu.be/UtyaGppWknE
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>>59613537
cool.

either gonna buy this or vega in 2 years time off ebay.
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>>59613647
>AMD
>Wait
nope not falling for this again
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>>59611777
Checked
But you are wrong.
A 1080 and 980ti at the same clocks are almost identical.

The difference is Pascal can hit 2,100mhz easily.
Nvidia locked the Voltage to a low number so OC is limited past that.

six-pack of whatever his name is got a 1080ti to hit 3,000mhz
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>>59614383
>A 1080 and 980ti at the same clocks are almost identical
proof?
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>>59614428
I cant seem to find the benchmark.
It was a comparison vs the 980ti vs the 1080 at the same clock speeds.

They were basically identical.
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>>59614774
So no proof
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>>59609858
>Vega will probably be the same price as the 1080Ti

Probably not though.
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>>59611360
>MSI have shitty coolers
Damn nigga that's a good joke.
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>>59613647
>wait for vega
>open video
>"hey what's up guys"
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>>59609858
MSI Gaming X boosts to 2.1 for me and stays near 30 celcius at idle
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>>59614937
You misunderstood
The cooling is decent, the COOLERS are cheap and ugly
Half the budget went into making it look like a lizard
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>>59615084
>Giving idle temps
why
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I'm running the Gigabyte Windforce edition (2 fans) and it runs very nicely and isn't very loud.
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>>59613647
>Wait for polaris
>Wait for Ryzen
>Wait for Vega
Fuck of waitfags. Buy the best thing available now and enjoy it.
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>>59609858

a-sush turbz
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>>59613647
>just wait, we will beat Intel/Nvidia THIS time
And so the cycle continues.
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>>59609858
/g/ autism at it's finest. Everyone can agree reference cooler sucks but the difference between individual brands is so fucking tiny nobody cares.
Best bet is to go for the company with the best refund policy.
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>>59617110
Here in NZ the Strix is $100 cheaper than a FTW2.
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>>59609858
This one: http://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/hof/kfa2-geforcer-gtx-1070-hof.html
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I have to admit, this card is pretty good for the price. I play Arma 3 and run it at over 60fps, but it's time for something more powerful.

What would be a good step up from the 750Ti in a whole new system?

My current build is a few years old and I started it about 6 years ago upgrading here and there.

980Ti I can get for roughly $500 AUD.

Thoughts?
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>>59617403
>>59617273
Get a 1070 Strix like this guy. Smarter than jumping to a 908ti.
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performancewise, we are talking about 1-3 fps MAX. Check for reviews regarding cooling and noise, or prioritize customer service.
Gainward Phoenix / Palit Gamerock seem to rate fairly high
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>>59617638
I've been looking at the KFA2 model myself, but I can't find solid info on whether I can turn off that horrendous led rgb rainbow lighting. I got a pc, not a dingy polish nightclub ffs
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>>59609858
Strix
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God, EVGA shills are the fucking worst.
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>>59617050
>>59614950
>>59613737
Heh, I love AMDrones

>nvidia and intel release top notch performing products from the get go
>AMD shows up a year later, finally offering a product with same-ish performance for cheaper
>HAHA AMD WINS AGAIN BABY
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>>59617830
They have different production cycles and appeal to separate audiences.
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>>59617868
Wow you can really feel the impact of anon's mom dropping him on the head as a baby in this post
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>>59613647
There's literally 0% chance Vega will match a Titan X

It will most likely be somewhere between a 1070 and a 1080
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>>59617830
> same-ish performance for cheaper
Well, that's what we're here for.
I can blow my entire monthly wage on a 1080Ti, but not going to, since it's going to be a few years when games will catch up and it's generally a waste of money. It's more considerate to pay $200 now and $200 two years later: I will earn more by that time, maybe I won't even play anything that requires a modern card.
All in all, 2x200 is wiser than 1x600.
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>>59618242
can you act seriously?
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>>59618421
>I'll just wait two years until I can play modern games beyond 1080p while everyone else has fun
Suit yourself, my man.
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>>59609858
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>>59618777
Bet that guy must feel retarded with his 1080 now that the Ti is out.
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>>59618566
> beyond 1080p
I can play on 4K right now with my sweet 480X.
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>>59618812
at 20fps? wow
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>>59618777
That's one cute boy.
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gtx 760
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>>59618841
4u
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>>59609858
GAINWARD GOLDEN SAMPLE
A
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A
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>>59611360
Lol no. They make customers pay shipping for RMA. Hahahaha
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>>59619638
If you have a warranty they don't
Atleast they'll actually RMA your cards, MSI and Strix will just fuck you over by sending you a refurb model or flashing your bios and just sending it back

My friend spray painted his 970 and when it broke EVGA was perfectly fucking ok with it
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>>59609858
ive bought a palit before and it fucking overheated, replaced it with evga and never looked back. i've heard from my friend who also has 1070 that his strix is good.
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>>59621554
>My friend spray painted his 970

what the fuck?
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>>59621554
My buddy bought a 980ti classified. 3 months later it broke, EVGA made him pay shipping.

My 780ti broke once. Called PNY, showed him a picture of my monitor. Sent me a shipping label and I got a 980 back two weeks later.
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>>59609858
>Vega probably will be the same price as 1080Ti

So far are 11 model numbers for Vega.
I'm sure one of them will be in the $350-$450 range.
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>>59622315
3 months is past the warranty, they have a free two month warranty
PNY is good too but seriously EVGA has the best customer support, my 960 broke so they gave me a 1060. I've known people who have gotten 1070s for their 980s breaking. Besides they will make you pay for shipping there but if when you get it shipped back you know you can just ask for a shipping refund right and they'll give you credit for how much you spent if you provide an invoice, unless you live outside of burgerland
>>59621700
He wanted a white shroud
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Prices are definitely taking a dive when Vega appears soon.
Nvidia are going to re-release their cards with faster ram and base clock to compete.
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I'd buy this one if i had the money.
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>>59623132
Is that a 4 slot card?

A 4 slot 1070?
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Wait for Vega

Nobody knows exactly how they will perform or what they will cost

But we are so close, just WAIT

Pascal is hot as fuck and high end models probably won't be as reliable as your 280X
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>>59623462
>>59623043
>Just wait
>Just wait
>Just wait
fucking stop amdrones
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>>59623421
3 slot
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It looks like the fan shroud would extend more than 3 slots.
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>>59623544
Gigabyte makes horrible nvidia cards, for the pascal gpus MSI and zotac make the best cards.
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>>59623602
>MSI make the best cards
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>>59623602
>Claims Gigabyte makes shitty cards
>Yet they are the fastest ones and the cooler ones

really makes you think..
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>>59623602
MSI coolers are literal garbage and their customer support with fuck you over every turn, not to mention their failure rate
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>>59611777
The 980 ti would mop the floor with it because it has more CUDA cores, not because the cores themselves are better.

Maxwell and Pascal are fundamentally the same architecture, with their differences coming from some feature implementations and a process shrink that allows for higher clocks. Not to mention that the 980 ti has better memory bandwidth as well.

Pascal derives its strength from being able to run at high clock speeds. A 980 has 2048 CUDA cores and a 1070 has 1920, both on pretty much the same architecture. The 1070 hitting 2GHz helps it win in this case, but clock for clock it would be beaten.

But yeah when it comes to locking down the cards, it's pretty bad. Voltage is locked down hard, and the cards don't run very hot anyway, so things like liquid cooling or better coolers don't do much beyond allowing GPU Boost 3.0 to clock them higher more consistently.
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>>59623721
>>59623744
>>59623776

Probably just trolls but oh well

MSI and Zotac both have one of the best pcb designs, 10 and 8 phase pwn designs.
The coolers on both run perfectly fine and especially the msi cooler is praised for its silence in idle (as the fan just turns off) and good cooling performance.

All Zotac AMP! and MSI Gaming X cards I've tested didn't run very hot and overclock pretty well.
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>>59623840
Did u forget? It's no use trying to argue with people on 4chan :^)
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>>59617784
and they are everywhere
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>>59623840
>wah just meanie trolls
grow up, cut the brand loyalty bud. MSI and Zotac do not care about you and they never will. EVGA cards have the fans turn off on idle and so do strix cards, it's nothing special, msi does not have anywhere near the best PCB design.
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>>59624033
EVGA cards are best (^:
https://youtu.be/WAbl0fLY06U
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>>59625529
First comment
>NoVideo FlameWorksâ„¢
kek
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>>59625529
Literally nobody said that
you're projecting
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>>59609858
ZOTAC and MSI are the best cards imo.
I prefer zotac though since they feature 5 year warranty.
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>>59626035
Why lie
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>>59626194
How can I lie about my own opinion you fucking abortion leftover
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>>59625529
evga fixed this issue with the latest revision of their gpu. also they have the best customer service by an absolute country mile compared to the rest and their step up program is unlike anything offered by any of the rest.
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>>59626484
Why have shitty opinions
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>buy evga 1070 at launch
>few months after news comes out how awful the acx 3.0 cooler is
>evga will only give you another thermally abused card instead of a new one

Fuck them, got amazon to give me a full refund instead
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>>59609858
Sorry I don't buy failed chips mean to poorfags
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>>59626537
No, they send it back with a bios update and thermal pads that brings it down to the same temps as the other after market cards
stop being a drama queen
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>>59626576
The BIOS update also cranks up the fan curve, making it far noisier than competing cooling solutions. That's unacceptable, Mr. EVGA Shill.
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>>59626598
Nobody is shilling evga, I'm just telling you to stop being a whiny bitch
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>>59626524
Like yours?
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>>59626616
I'm not the person you were replying to. I'm just making sure that everybody's aware that EVGA cards are shit. Sorry that it's costing you money, Ramesh.
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>>59626636
They aren't shit though literally nothing wrong with them
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>>59626576

They literally swap used cards musical chairs style and crank the fans up above advertised levels.

If I'm paying 430 bucks for a video card it shouldn't have such a horrid design flaw
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>>59626598
No it doesn't. I got a free upgrade to a 1070 from a faulty 980 and the 1070 cooler is quiet as fuck and I haven't seen it go over 66°c under full load even at a boost clock of 2ghz with the stock fan curve.

You might hate them but don't spread misinformation.
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How good is the EVGA upgrade program?

Let's say I buy a 1070 today. Can I upgrade that to a 1080 and pay the difference anytime in the next 90 days?

Also, can I do that AGAIN with that 1080 to a 1080ti?
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>>59626630
knew you'd say some stupid shit like that so I got this ready before making my post
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>>59626658
We've already established that there's something wrong with them, even after the """""fix""""" of some 1 cent thermal pads and making it sound like a vacuum cleaner. Keep up, Sanjay.
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>>59626662
There is no design flaw, it was fixed back in november and they don't give you used cards.
You're thinking strix, they send you refurbs back, or just shaft you
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There's a reason EVGA killed the acx 3.0 so fast and replaced it with the icx cooler.

It's hilarious how many people were thanking EVGA for being able to 80 dollars to get a working cooler
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>>59609858
I tried all of them, they all had coil whine. don't get a 1070.
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>>59626676
You can't step up twice but yet you can upgrade to a 1080 and just pay the difference
you just supply info on how much you payed and then depending on how much they are offering they'll just make you pay the difference
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>>59626673
>the 1070 cooler is quiet as fuck and I haven't seen it go over 66°c under full load

If it's quiet, you have a card with an old BIOS. If you have an old BIOS, your VRMs are frying every time you use the card.

>B-b-but muh 66°C!!!

That's the core temperature, retard. That was never the issue. Nvidia cards don't have VRM temperature sensors, so you're certainly not monitoring those. Enjoy your literal housefire.
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>>59618822
i bet he's a consolefag who just converted and he hasn't adjusted yet, so he doesn't have any higher standards
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>>59609858
>thinking vega will be a tier above 1070 lmao
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>>59626694
The entire cooler was fixed though, you seem to be out of the loop
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>>59626726
It actually wasn't the VRMs it was only the capacitors on a small batch of cards.
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>>59626035
>>59625529
>>59623840
>>59623602

I dunno if this is helpful but my MSI and Sapphire 7970s still work great 6 years later, even after I thought I'd had worn them down with Bitcoin mining.
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>>59626726
Nope. It's the latest model of 1070 and it's running cool and quiet. Sorry to kill your evga hate boner :^)
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>>59626715
So if I ever wanna upgrade to a ti then I should start with the 1080?
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>>59626738
>fixed
>acx 3.0 was axed in 6 months

Woooboy
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>>59626776
Yes
>>59626778
Would you look at that, a fix
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>>59626738
It was """""fixed""""" by completely redesigning it and charging an extra $80. ACX 3.0 wasn't ever fixed, and has now been completely abandoned as a result. You're bad at this, Chandra.

>>59626763
No, it was the VRMs. Fuck off, retard.

>>59626774
Sure it is, buddy!
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>>59626695

Nope, EVGA refused to send me a new card in place of my 4 month old 1070

Scumbags
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>this one guy getting so assblasted that other people are having good experiences with their evga gpu

Probably some amd shill mad that evga actually produce good cards with only a few exceptions and he probably uses Nvidia himself anyway
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>>59626802
Nope it was the capacitors, and if you have a warranty the cooler change is free. You need to calm down bud, like count to 10 or something
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2691-final-evga-vrm-thermal-torture-test-and-analysis?showall=1
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>>59626816
Proof?
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>>59626677
Savage
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>>59626677
>Savage
My sides are collateral
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>>59626677
Too bad it wasnt my response
and yes it's a 4k monitor, poorfag
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>>59627586
who are you calling poorfag
Doesn't matter if it wasn't you
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>>59627586
>hurr I'm too autistic to use paint
>muh monitor
Even if it wasn't you, (you) got wrecked by affiliation.
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>>59617528
I dunno man. The 980 Ti got last September was stable at 1521/2000 on air for 350 USD. It was a Xtreme Gaming model. Shits great.
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>>59627884
this
my 980ti hits 1.5ghz easy, 200 on the core 700 on the mem only 35mV
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I pre-ordered a EVGA 1080 ti FTW3. I feel like a cuck.
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>>59628096
no it'll last you forever on 1440p, any game, max settings

considering you got the cpu to back it up (not ryzen)
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>>59622774
Their warranty is two years....
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>>59617050
i lost
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>>59609858
evga FTW is the best but its pricey and the cooler is meh

your buying it for the binning and ridiculous power phases.

If your not obsessed with maximum overclocking and dont plan on water cooling that the MSI gamingX is better
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>>59626737
its already been clocked as 10-15% faster than a gtx 1080 and thats without driver optimizations or final clocks/overclocks yet. If it sells for 400-500$ its going to be amazing
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>>59629699
It's actually not, you have to buy directly from them for the 2 year one
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>>59626737
>>59630481
It's my understanding that it was faster than a 1900mhz overclocked GTX 1080 on Fiji 1.2 drivers.
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>>59630481
Oh are we making up shit about the new in town AMD launch again?
whoop whoop this worked well last time
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>>59630700
Yes and thats a major deal because of the NCU's. Essentially Fiji (furyX) has the old Shader layout of 64-bit Compute unites broken into 4x16-bit ALU blocks. The drivers for Vega deliver the instructions that same way they do for their designed arch the FuryX. But heres the kicker the Vega has a brand new Variable Shader block that Breaks that 16-bit half precision pipeline into 8+4+2+2. When new drivers account for this and optimize for it the new shaders are going to be able to pack alot of raw primitives into the gabs left open in those partially used 16-bit blocks.

Also another thing not being used in the Fiji drivers is the new rapid packed math ability which boosts Half Precision (16-bit) workloads like TressFX and Nvidia Hairworks which means that Vega will run Hair effects and some lighting/shadow effects WAAAY better than Pascal/maxwell do.

The raw bottom rung performance of an engineering sample vega with fiji drivers being faster than a heavily overclocked gtx 1080 combined with these drastic architecture changes means that nvidia shills will be working overtime when it comes out.
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>>59631391
I've seen no source that it's 8+4+2+2 now. It appears to just be 8+8.

There's also no indication that "rapid packed math" is automatically done by the driver optimizing shaders or something, and that it doesn't require intrinsic shader functions that will require developers to optimize for.

The graphics APIs generally use 32bit operations uselessly when they should be using 16bit to begin with, let alone 8bit.
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>>59630589
Lol he did...
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Getting a new evga 1070 ftw acx 3.0 from kijiji for 500 canadian

Is the bios update enough to keep my house safe from fire? Is the free thermal pad absolutely vital?

Am not sure if it comes with the fix.
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>>59618400
you mean 1060 and 1070.
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>>59633820
>>59618400
There is no chance either of these are true when an underclocked Vega engineering sample was matching a 1080 with a 1900Ghz overclock on Fiji 1.2 drivers.

You guys are either
a. delusional fanboys
b. tech illiterates
c. both
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>>59617050
This.
There will almost always be some next best thing coming 'soon'.

>>59617830
In case you haven't noticed from your moms basement in the real world people generally tend to care about value for money.
Yes, nVidia/Intel generally make higher performance products but also at a much higher price.
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Palit/Gainward is among the most quiet and coolest of the bunch.
From what I gather they're pretty hard or near impossible to find in the US though.
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Hey uhh, is this one any good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YpH48d/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1070g1-gaming-8gd
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