What do people here use for home servers? I can't deci

Forgot to say that all I really want it for is file storage and using as a torrent box with rtorrent + rutorrent.

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Are you gonna use it to store porn, you filthy homo!?

I've had problems with the slightly older proliants where the bios wouldn't recognize any windoze os newer than server 2008. It worked fine with leenux though. The proliants we have at work are a backup domain controller and a finance software server. They seem to OK for a cheap little server. The proliants and blades are limited on upgrading options, but who cares, it's a cheap server that works.

>>59607336

Yeah that would wouldn't be a problem for me as I'll just be using linux on it for the NFS.

How's the performance on them generally, can they handle what you throw at them without locking up or sounding like an aircraft taking off?

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>>59607233
Do you even know what a blade is?
Because that Dell is a standard 1U rack server.
Black is pic related and you have to have an enclosure for it to do anything, since it lacks its own power supply (among other things).

Anyway, don't get a server unless you have a separate room to put it in. Those things are meant for data centers and are therefore loud as fuck.
The Microserver being an obvious exception, because it's a different use case.

But beware because from the price of that thing, it's going to have a Celeron inside of it. Pretty good for a home storage, but bad if you need performance.

>>59607538
>Black
I meant blade. Fuck me, I guess.

Anyway, if you only want it for torrenting, the Microserver will do.

>>59607584

Also yeah I meant rack server not blade.

>>59607233
i'd say just get a cheap full tower and old xeons off ebay. best multipurpose server for home.

I use a Thinkpad t430. Shit works great.

>>59607259
in that case just a rpi and an external drive.

>>59607645
rpi only has 100Mb ethernet and it shares bus with USB controller or some meme like that, so it would be pretty slow

Do you think an old PC with downclocked Phenom II X2 would be fine for home data storage? I would setup some RAID on it.

>>59607233
>having a jet engine loud server in your house to download torrents

you'll be able to hear that shit from anywhere in the house

fuck no

>>59607771
A pentium III would be find for home data storage.

>>59607233
Plex and archiving.

>>59607807
Not if you want encryption.
But even the cheapest Celerons come with AES instructions these days.

>>59607807
Great then. Now I'll jest need to get 6 HDDs for RAID6.

There isn't any (free) NAS system that would let me add another disk after initial setup, is there?

>>59607848
Why would you need to encrypt your home data?

>>59607477
The proliants are a single fan box with a small processor. It works fine for our office of about 30 people editing files and shit. I image it's more than OK for your needs.

My home file server is just an ATOM shitbox with software RAID and it kicks the snot out of those tiny home NAS boxes.

>>59607538
blade are jet engines, you will never sleep peacefully ever again

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Do I pull the trigger then /g/?

>>59607895
1, burglars getting your sensitive data
2, law enforcement getting your unauthorized copies

>>59607929
True, I received one blade server for free but it's just a monitor stand in my rack. fucking crazy jet engine thing.

>>59607233
WTF a 1U server just for torrenting?
MY SIDES

If you want reliable file storage + torrenting then and old desktop with a raid controller would be more than enough, or an old lap like >>59607628 (depending on various physical limitations), or old servers like >>59607618
propose.
But really, server class hardware for a torrentbox is way overkill, its like buying a tank just to do the groceries

>buy cheapest apu
>but hdds of your choice
>small ssd for os
>cheap case
>cheap mitx mobo
>cheap psu.
I think this is the best and cheapest option op.

>>59607964
I like it. New hardware with a warranty is nice. The drives are easy to swap compared to a shitty recycled tower like I have.

I use an ancient 32 bit e-machine. With a million USB ports. Works great for samba/ssh.

>>59607974
LOL I'm sure Jamal knows how to navigate your linux server and steal your tax return scans

>>59607991
>raid controller
it's not the 90s anymore, software RAID is a lot better than any consumer RAID controllers

>>59608036
I encrypt my shit as well only because of Jamal reason.

>>59608005
It's really not. The Microservers with Celeron are cheaper and you'll get a nice bonus in form of two 1Gb ethernets and iLO

>>59608036
Yeah, but Jamal is going to sell it sooner or later and I'm not taking my chances, especially when hardware-accelerated cryptography is everywhere these days.

>>59607259
> all I really want it for is file storage and using as a torrent box with rtorrent + rutorrent.

Just get a SoC like Raspberry Pi or Odroid or something. Easy and cheap.

>>59608061
>The Microservers with Celeron are cheaper
post one

>>59607900

Who says I won't be installing a virtualization environment on it and virtualizing my torrent environment etc.

>>59608123
literally the first link in this thread you retard

>>59607645
This >>59607693 rpi is absolute shit for a seedbox. Just don't.

>>59608041
if you want an actually good raid card, you can always get an older used enterprise grade raid card for cheap

>>59608088
I love my Pi boards but the flash cards get corrupted once in a while and they have limited network bandwidth. Neatest toys but nothing compared to a small business file server.

>>59608132

fuck meant for >>59607991

>>59608146
Just make sure you can still get the BBU for the model you purchase. I made that mistake last year.

>buying a loud server meant for a data center and putting it in your basement

>>59608146
yes, but why invest when quality software raid is free on Linux and BSD, which you'd be using anyway because of the filesystems

>>59608005
Is the SSD for OS necessary?

>>59608175

That's the dream. Then you get yourself a nice rack for your basement and another few servers etc.

Just imagine all the porn you could store.

Why would I need a home server? I have nothing to hide nor am I secretary of state of the United States.

>>59608182
realistically no, but I'd definitely get one

>>59608191
>porn
>not remuxes of your favorite kinos
kys youserlf

>>59608088
rPi make very shitty file servers. The network and storage share the same bus. It's slow as fuck.

>>59608210
What the fuck? Do you think that anyone with a home server is a terrorist or something?
>Why would I need a home computer? I have nothing to hide nor am I secretary of state of the United States.

>>59607964
if you don't care about the money, just go for it man. Take advantage of the hardware to learn more stuff, don't just use it as a NAS and a torrent box, it's fucking overkill for that.

>>59608178
You get better hardware that interfaces with your hard drives on a proper raid card, also you get battery backup.

>>59608182
It's the most unnecessary thing you can get on a server.
Start-up times don't matter because you'd be rebooting it once a month tops, and the services like torrent client are loaded once on start-up and then continue running from RAM.
Throwing the money into a river would have more purpose than buying an SSD for a server.

>>59608217
>>59608280
Okay, thanks.

>>59608236
Either that or Rex Tillerson.

>>59608294
If anything keep the OS on a separate drive from everything else

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It's going to turn into one of these threads

>>59608368
kek

>>59608249
Yeah, the battery is nice.

>>59607980
Yep, I fucked around with some IBM blade rig and I can attest to those things being hilariously loud. Each of the quad PSU's was cooled by a trio of the usual 40mm screamers, and the blades themselves were cooled by dual 840 watt blowers. It was interesting to fire up, at least it was incredibly capable at blasting loose paper and small objects clear across the room.

>>59608414
I considered attaching skateboard wheels to this 1U blade but the extension cord wouldn't get me very far.

>looking for drives for NAS
>2TB HGST drive for 60$
It seems to be wrong, weren't HGST drives more expensive? The exact model is HGST 0F12117, is there something wrong with it?

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>>59607259
I have this for the same purpose (just need the itx case pictured).

C60M1-I integrated ITX board with 6 SATA ports.
PERC 5/i 8 port RAID card.
Chieftec drive bay with hot-swap support.

Found a relatively cheap chink ITX case to house just the board and expansion card and just route the SATA cables out the back to the separate drive bay.

Also need a picoPSU or a SFX one.

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>>59607233
no case
20 wood screws
final destination

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>>59607233

I've been debating buying a Gen8 for months now

Anyone know how much power it uses and how much noise it makes?

Electricity cost is the biggest concern, I know I could use an old tower but they use way more power than they need to for the job

>>59608822
a plebbit thread says 25-45 watts for these machines. That sounds about right depending on the load.

>>59608822
Between 20 and 30 watts idle according to heise/c't uplink show.

>>59607233

People use home servers to offload tasks form their laptops and main machines, like downloading, storage, backups and everything you dont want your primary machine to be doing because of portability or performance concerns. They should be low power and quiet because they will be running 24 hours a day.

Also, thats not a blade. In Enterprise, we call those density optimized servers (hence the HP DL line). You can fit 42 of those in a rack, but they are loud as fuck. good for CPU density but still relatively cheap. Unless you are space constrained and need 40 of those, this is not for you.

Blades are also meant for density, but they are much more expensive because of advanced features like virtualised networking plus more. They plug into a specialized 10unit Enclosure which is also expensive as fuck. This is definitely not what you are looking for.

You can go with the microserver or a proper Tower Server, which are also really good value for money because everything from the usual vendors is subsided as they expect to make money on the contracts.
HPE sell ML10 servers with Xeon quad cores for around the same price as the Xeon itself. Also comes with 8gb memory, 1tb drive etc. Go for this if you need more power and expansion .


Source: HPE engineer, 5 years.

>>59608151

I have RPi root on an SSD. Very easy to change. Makes the performance bearable (USB2 SSD is still better than an SD card) and removes the corruption issue.

Well I just bought the microssever, been debating what to get for an absolute age so at least I finally got something and I can finally stop using a laptop for a home server now.

>>59609095
I think you dun gud anon. You can set it up and worry about more interesting things now.

I've got a semi decent setup in my garage, it's simply an old computer that I revamped into a server. It's main job is movies and tv. It automatically torrents all my shows as soon as they are released and moves everything into the correct locations, ready to be picked up by plex and ready to watch. It also sends a push notification to 4 people when we have something new to watch. It also does the normal stuff, ssh, ftp, smtp, back up, and security cameras. Don't even remember what's inside it, 8gig i5 maybe.

>>59609184
>It automatically torrents all my shows as soon as they are released

How do you do it, RSS?

>>59608924
>DL
>blades

lol no

>>59609236
Yep RSS feed into the torrent client. It check for an update every 5 minutes, so I get an episode as soon as it's out in 720p.

>>59607308
I don't watch porn. No need to when I live with my boyfriend.

>Torrenting
>He want a fucking server
If you're going to buy server, at least put it in a good use.
torrenting and other toy shit just get RPi or even dd-wrt with external hdd

>>59607233
I went on Craig's list and found a cheap Dell poweredge 840. Literally got it for $10.

>>59609293
disregard that, I lack reading comprehension

>>59609312
fag

>>59609345
>just get RPi
3rd world internet detected
it's pretty annoying to run a decent external drive too
rpi is shit unless you are a fucking casual
and at that point why do you even need a server for torrenting

>>59609295
how do you deal with deleted torrents that get trumped by a PROPER release shortly after the original episode was uploaded?

>>59608924
>Source: HPE engineer, 5 years.
I'm getting spun off into newco. Have fun HP bro.

>>59609184

This is pretty much exactly how I intend to use mine. currently I download the torrents via RSS on my desktop to the network location but I'm going to change that now to the server as I will have more space.

>>59609427
different anon here, that's also how i had it setup when i actually had my server up and running

>>59607233
I bought an ivy bridge dell optiplex to use as a firewall, router and file storage from a guy on craigslist for $35. Popped in a couple hard drives, a tiny SSD and a cheapo 4 port NIC and it works great. No ECC but really solid other than that. Very quiet, 30-40W idle, and the shitty i3 is fast enough for my ezpz consumer grade bullshit.

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Any alternative to WD reds?

The fucking prices are insane

>>59609939
HGST NAS drives, could be more expensive but they are faster

>>59609939
Seagate IronWolf
They got their shit together, or so I've heard.

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>>59607233
>all I really want it for is file storage and using as a torrent box with rtorrent + rutorrent.
Look into numerous single board computers available on the market, pick the most powerful one you can afford and stuck a fuckhueg heatsink on the SoC. You won't have to worry about noise.

Forget about rbpi (as mentioned before) since it has terrible ethernet controller.
I think orangepi (the chink alternative) has a decent network controller.

>>59610045
>I think orangepi (the chink alternative) has a decent network controller.

It doesn't have sata

Banana does though

>>59607233
got a gen8 with a 1260l along with a few poweredge servers for pissing about with. the hp is miles better, low power,quiet and really good deal with that cashback.

only downside is no raid 5 on the inbuild raid controller, picky memory and limited upgradability. canni go wrong with that valuethough

>>59610315
>only downside is no raid 5 on the inbuild raid controller, picky memory and limited upgradability

So you can't use raid5 then or ?

>>59610443
nut, raid 0 or 1 only, and to use the odd sata port for an ssd you need to do some janky workarounds because on legacy sata mode it you cannot select boot order , it boots from the drive bay one and two only(odd is bay 5)

you can still do software raid pretty easy though so it's not the end of the world

>>59610523

Is it even worth using an SSD for any reason?

>>59610590
So you can have all 4 drive bays for data, can use it as caching and general snappy factor if you are ding other things with it like transcoding backups, good for image recovery, etc etc. all depnds on your own circumstances desu, if you are just running freenas or running a linux alternative you can just run the os off a usb drive

>>59608702
where did you get the plastic cover?

>>59610676
food tray from ikea

>>59609371
I don't do anything, repacks get downloaded as well, maybe my feeds are decent and it only pulls from known scene groups and sites, nearly everything it downloads is what it should be, and if I notice a repack has been downloaded I will just go in and tidy it up.

>>59610860
im on a private tracker that also only get good sources, but sometimes a things get trumped by a repack/proper within an hour or two and i was curious if you had any idea on how to automatically detect PROPER trumps and delete the previous download, as my old setup with utorrent had an episode filter so it wouldnt download several of the same episode, but it couldnt notice if things had been trumped.

>$300 5x2TB HDD (Hitachi GST Deskstar 7K2000)
>$60 ASrock Q19001B-ITX: intel celeron, 6 HDD slot
>$30 picoPSU
>$50 Icy Dock MB326SP-B 6 HDD enclosure
+ 4GB spare ram

stick it in a wood box and poke some holes in. good for NAS/torrentbox? any cheaper than prebuilt micro server?

>>59610818
just 1 HDD? whats that on the top left?

>>59607877
>add another disk after initial setup
Typically not adding to your existing raid. Fill your enclosure with drives then replace later with higher capacities in the same form.

>>59610961
seems good, but why a wooden box? you could get a NAS box or similar ITX case with a large drive bay, or just get a tiny ITX case and put that on top of the HDD enclosure.

Also, you can get the same amount of storage with a single or two drives for the same price, which gives you more expansion options in the future.
if you dont want to do that, i'd get a mobo with a 4x PCI-E slot instead for more options on RAID cards if/when you expand.
Or if you will just replace all the drives later you can ignore what i just said.

>>59610902
Then no sorry I don't, I do it manually when I can be bothered, and for the sake of a few dupes at only a gig in size, I don't really care.

>>59611065
looks like two power supplies

>>59611126

Wouldn't you lose your data?

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>>59607233
to host stuff, what else?

if you have to ask, you dont need one

>>59611133
>you could get a NAS box or similar ITX case with a large drive bay, or just get a tiny ITX case and put that on top of the HDD enclosure
can't find anything that doesn't raise the price. something like fractal node at $50 would be perfect. Don't want to spend more than 400, looking for resilience, 6-8TB usable space.

>you can get the same amount of storage with a single or two drives for the same price
was intending RAID6 which needs 4+. I'm fine with 1+0 but I wasn't able to find same memory for cheaper than 5x2TB. I see 4TB new and not white label for $120 (Seagate BarraCuda ST4000DM005), same as $60 for 2TB. It's true I can expand more easily but RAID6 will give me more resilience and 10% more usable space.

>>59611269
you could get an old server rack case with a hot-swap bay for real cheap and just gut it and put in your mobo

How does the Icy Dock mount in a chassi? 3.5? 5.25? how many slots does it take up?

>>59611397
>>59611269
also from what i can tell the model you listed is for 2.5" drives, so are the drives you listed also 2.5"?

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>>59611397
oh that's a good idea.

>How does the Icy Dock mount in a chassis
oh I fucked up, it's 2.5". maybe get something like pic related then? $10x2.

>>59607538

They are also expensive as fuck, power hungry as fuck and even in datacenter they are a meme with most people not actually needing that and it's really just throwing money down the drain.

>>59607259

I literally use amd athalon x4 with 8gb of ram and like 10tb of HDDs. For exactly this. I don't know why you think you need a standard server for this. Get a 4U case and whatever components that suite you. (Probably a Mobo with lots of sata ports and PCI e slots for raid cards )

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>>59611440
>maybe get something like pic related then
i think those will only fit in corsair cases. and it really depends on what you want to do, ie hot-swap drive bay for easy replacement or if you're fine with internal bays and having to take off the side panel and unplug cables manually.

also it depends on what size you want the case to be (itx with 6 drive capacity [pretty much only internal drive bays for these] or mini tower, mid tower for a easy access drive bay where you dont have to go inside to remove drives (can be found pretty cheap aswell). pic related is what i got for my fileserver, it goes in a 5.25 drive bay and you just hook up the sata cables on the back of this then slide in the drives and they connect internally in the hot-swap.

>>59610961
I think a HP microserver would be a better and safer option. Supports ECC memory, and comes with a more powerful Celeron. You should be able to find one for about 200 dollars before cashback.

The home assembled equivalent would be a C226/C236 motherboard + celeron/pentium. But that motherboard + CPU combo would be about the same price as one entire microserver.

Here's my build very soon (might share some pics on /g/, or not):
>U-NAS NSC-400 chassis
>Celeron G3930
>MSI H110I PRO
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 2133 DC 8GB
>4x 3TB HGST Deskstar
>Had a B&M key m.2 drive from before

I would have built this thing a week ago hadn't the Intel stock cooler been too high for the chassis. Got a smaller CPU fan on the way tomorrow.

Maybe that will inspire you or something I dunno.

>>59607233
Cheap or old PC would be more than sufficient. I use my last computer, quad core, 16gb ram, and dual 2tb drives with one SSD for boot and another for VM disks. Run Windows 10 with Hyper V role installed.

>>59611636
>Run Windows
Ya dun goofed

>>59607771
Yes it would be fine. Most NAS boxes run Atoms or even lower power ARM procs these days.

>>59608041
Agree much more flexible. It is nice to know you can take your disks, move them to new hardware and mount it like nothing has changed.

>>59608088
Odroid XU4 very recommended.

>tfw when you don't want to learn all lighttpd to have rutorrent and moved to transmission

>>59611690

? It's literally a couple lines in the Apache conf for mod php

>>59611763
Yeah but I never touched any webserver and I'm security paranoid. In terms of I don't want to leave any hole, no in jamal terms. So instead of learning all lighttpd + confiure, I'm trying transmission

>>59607980
>>59608414
The IBM tower server I have is pretty quiet for what it is except during cold-boot POST where the fans spin up to maximum power and sound like a civil warning siren.

Old Dell business laptop,

Has a cheap i5, small like 13" form factor, and plugged into a 5tb external drive. More or less all I need.

>>59607233
you can find places to rent a VPS for $3/year now
why the fuck would ever run a real physical server at home anymore?

>>59611987
Do you trust the $3/year VPS provider with your data?

>>59611991
If it's a fileserver, just upload shit as encrypted containers or something.

>>59611991
depends what you're storing on it
and if you've got sensitive files you can transfer and store them encrypted if you want to

get a $500 or $2000 server from ebay used with a load of ram and HDDs

or go cheap and put a server motherboard in a gaming case with a more modern xeon

i had homeserver never fucking again, it's unending nightmare and it's loud as fuck.
Only reason is to learn, i had:
>one rpi
>one orange pi
>one server dual 6 core lga775 xeons ibm with sata 15k
>one cisco switch with vlans
>esxi with pfsense
>openwrt
No i use cheap dedicated hosts for like 15 / 20 euro with proxmox. I like to pay and just have it

>>59612063
>buys loud as fuck hardware and then complains about noise
i bet you fucked shit up aswell cus you're retarded and had to fiddle more than necessary.

I use an NVidia Jetson TX2

+Tiny SOC, no fan noise
+Can use it for remote CUDA workloads
+powerful as fuck for mundane server tasks
-only one SATA port, so no RAID (but I'm going to get a USB disk and run a nightly rsync on the fast drive

I need a nice enclosure tho, but I just got it

>>59610961
Better have good electricity or that $30 psu will wreck your shit.

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4U server chassis in a small rack with all your networking stuff is the cleanest looking solution for homes and small business. I bought a small chassis intended for wall mounting, and put it under my basement stairs.

4U cases can usually take 120mm intake fans, full ATX mobos, standard ATX power supplies, smaller tower coolers, and they're cheap, have a ton space, and are easy to work with. No compatibility bullshit, buy any parts you want and stick them inside. Put some poofans inside, and they're practically silent. Just make sure you buy proper rails, none of that expensive fancy sliding shit, you want solid steel rails.

And no, you don't fucking need hotswap bays for the one drive failure you'll have every two years

And don't fall into the trap of buying fancy as fuck 1U 24/48 port L2 core switches, you'll never use all the bandwidth, 99% of features, and you probably don't know how to use the CLI anyways.

Buying used prosumer/SOHO grade shit is super fucking cheap, and it's usually passively cooled. You don't need fancy as fuck shit, all you need is a less shit 8/16 port "smart" switch for all your high bandwidth stuff, and the cheapest unmanaged switch you find for all you low priority clients.

I have a 5930k i got for 300, and 32gb of ram with intentions to use it for rendering. I have taken a break from that by the time i got the parts, so i decided to learn linux with it.

I have a headless arch install, running VMs for each thing. Another arch for webserver, freenas for fileserver, debian for a game server, and another arch for a teamspeak server.

Using iptables was weird to learn tho.

>>59607991
Can't liquid cool it with one of those gigantic phobya radiators?