forgive me if they do, but why don't AMD make mobile phone

>>59600876
>NVIDIA
Housefires.
>Intel
Shit, x86, also housefires.

Poor power efficiency up until they made ryzen, their APUs/SoCs are pretty powerful for what they are, they just lack the efficiency thats needed in mobile platforms.

>>59600884
Meant to add, depending how well ryzen can scale down it might not be impossible for them to make a small dip into the phone chip market.

>>59600876
Nope, the closest they've gotten has been chips for tablets, which weren't really that great.

Why don't Intel and Nvidya make HD console chips, AMD does?

>>59601057
Because they can't offer complete package of CPU+GPU.

>>59600876
Adreno
Radeon

>>59600876
they sold their ARM division to qualcomm, so they do in spirit. Worst decision in company history.

>>59600876

Possibly they can't branch out because of lack of funds, at least for the time being.
They did make mobile gpu's for a while, before selling the entire assets.

>>59600876
Legal rights stop them from doing so.
AMD used to own ARM, but then sold off ARM and part of the sales deal was that AMD wouldn't go to compete with ARM.

Amd specialise in x86. I dont think they have enough disposable money to explore arm seriously.

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>>59601162

>sell ARM
>buy ATI

>>59600876
They have the console market.

>>59600883
>Shit, x86
Call me back when a 15W ARM CPU can beat a 2W x86 chip

The reason why x86 chips aren't used in mobiles and ARM isn't because of performance

Ryzen's mobile counterpart should shake up the notebook market quite a bit. Intel's mobile lineup has been focused only on power savings. Their i5s are 2C/4T and their i7s are 4C/4T. When AMD starts putting out their mobile APUs there should be significant performance increases.

>>59600876
>Nvidia and Intel
>mobile phone chips
Good joke, anon.

>>59601069
lol yes they can
they just don't because they need competition in order to avoid monopolu lawsuits.

>>59600876
> forgive me if they do, but why don't AMD make mobile phone chips?
They used to, until Hector Ruiz sold that portion off.

>>59601162
So, buying ATI cost them an ARM.

>>59600876
To answer OP, since no one has:

No, it's not because they need an ARM partnership like Nvidia.

And Intel's mobile business when it comes to phones is complete shit. They only sell modems to Apple and Apple heavily underclocks them to have them perform as poorly as Qualcomm's just to make Intel look less shitty.

The reason is because one of the shitty past CEOs and boards at AMD signed a 6 year deal with GloFo for 32nm and 28nm wafers. SIX YEARS on the same process.
So AMD had to keep making 32nm CPUs which couldn't compete with 20nm and 14nm in mobile for obvious reasons.

Now that that is finally ending this year, AMD has x86-64 that's far more power efficient than Intel's offerings, even almost about as power efficient as ARM.
Supposedly they're coming out with a 4w TDP APU soon.
For reference, the 10nm Snapdragon 835 is 2.5-5w TDP depending on the clocks.

If this is true, that AMD can make a CPU that's not a 1-2 core (AMD has said they aren't making Zen 2 cores. So at worst they must be 4 or maybe 3), and with Vega graphics that are 4x perf/watt as Polaris, they might actually greatly cut into Qualcomm's 95% market share or whatever ridiculous amount they have in mobile space after Intel tried for years and failed.

>>59603045
Na they sold their mobile graphics division to Qualcomm for 65 million. AMD vastly overpaid for ATI at 1.5 billion or something.

>>59602704
Then why does Qualcomm shit all over the intel mobile lineup?

>>59604770
That anon is just mostly mistaken.

ARM chips have way higher IPC than they had before. It might not be x86-64, but they do a good deal.

http://ark.intel.com/products/95449/Intel-Core-m3-7Y30-Processor-4M-Cache-2_60-GHz-
Still, you need something better than 2 core, 1.6ghz at 7w TDP like Intel. That's fucking dog shit.

Snapdragon IPC may be lower, but it has 8 cores operating at higher frequency and lower TDP.