>wait Vega /g/ say, wait Vega... Get ready for (A)nother

>>59599120
Ok time for summary:

Vega is the biggest fundamental architecture change since they switched from Terascale to GCN 1.0
The new NCU means a massive boost to efficiency in the shader core and a much easier ability to fully saturate the GPU with work.
The biggest problem with Fiji(furyX) is that its 4096 shaders didnt mean very much because of large bubbles in the pipeline and large ammounts of shaders idling and doing no work each cycle.
Even with a low Level API like Vulcan which is best case scenario the FuryX is still not running with all cylinders firing because Vulkan only solved the Driver overhead problem. There is still bubbles in the workload because of the fundamental design of the GCN architecture itself.

AMD is switching from standard 4x16-bit blocks of a normal GCN CU(compute unit) to This new design of a variable 8+4+2+2 block and either four of these or a mix of these and standard 16-bit blocks in this new NCU(next compute unit)

They could not Do this in the past because they did not have the technology to build a Hardware Scheduler and Memory Scheduler Complexed enough to run this kind of architecture.

We have test samples of Vega with NCU's disabled and with very low clockspeeds and its beating a 1900mhz overclocked gtx 1080 in DOOM. Now there is a gain from using Vulcan over DX11 and OpenGL for AMD but thats on the Driver Overhead side not on the fundamental shader operations side. IT just means the CPU is feeding draw calls to the GPU at peak efficiency.

Alot of people dismiss the test because its vulcan but they dont know what they are looking at. The Vega sample is running FIJI 1.2 drivers Which means the instructions are running through the Vega NCU's like they are standard fixed 16-bit blocks like you have on a FuryX card.

So you need to look at it from this perspective.

This New architecture is more advanced than Maxwel/Pascal. You are going to see unreal performance from Vega when its finally released. Poor Volta

>>59599120
Fuck off.

>>59599128
Here we go. Kek (you)

>>59599128
>>59599128
I need sauce on the details here

My 1080Ti and 4k monitor just arrived

>>59599250
some copypasta from /r/amd leddit TeamRed

>>59599120
>wait for Vega /g/ says
Really, /g/ has said this? It seems to be common consensus that the best flagship Vega GPU will be some marginal percentage worse than the 1080ti. Except, of course, those 3 games that actually run DX12, where it will perform 1% better, and every AMDfag will point only to these benchmarks and say "NVIDIA BTFO!"

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>>59599128
2 poos have been deposited in to your loo account.

>>59599120
>t. Intel shill

>>59599268
>4k
>not 240hz 1ms monitor
it's like you enjoy being cucked in games

my brain renders graphics faster than any of your GPUs do
and uses 0 watts of power

>>59599537
Good luck trying to hook a brain to a motherboard

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WE NEED MORE CORES

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>>59599120
You assholes told me to wait for Zen
Was disapointed AGAIN

I fell for what wait game with the bulldozer, and now Zen.

Vega will be no different

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>>59599120
>sitting on a 1080 ti
>if Vega is better then I can easily sell it because NVIDIA cards are much easier to sell than AMD cards at smaller losses
>if it's worse than the 1080 ti as it is anticipated to be then I just hold on to the 1080 ti

>>59599578
two shekels were deposited into your account goy.
Thanks for helping to leap ahead!

>>59599578
>but muh i5 2500k

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>>59599576
Not funny.

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>>59599586
dont forget, 480 cant even beat a 1060

>>59599687
t. bullshit

the rx480 beats the 1060 by far simi, you need to look at the updated benchmarks and stop spreadng bullshit

>>59599525
Try shooting that enemy that is 1 pixel size kek resolutionlets
Your reaction speed is 200ms anyway

>>59599699
i literally have and the 480 loses literally 70 percent of the time.

>>59599705

Your eyes can't see past 720p anyways.

>>59599687
But at least the 480 lets you use decent drivers.

The biggest drawback of having this 1080 ti is the fucking drivers, they are cancer.

>>59599120
> AMD
> Master of cores
> Graphics are based on # cores

Yeah ok. Better than IntelVidia's goofy card.

>>59599777
It's absolutely fucking hilarious how good current ayymd drivers are and how shit are NVIDIA's. Also gayforce experience is so shit.

>>59599806
>Also gayforce experience is so shit.
I installed it because I was hoping for something better than NVIDIA stuck-in-2003 Control Panel but all it did was 'optimize' all my games.

And by optimize I mean use garbage settings and set every game to default to 1440p without me realizing it when I have 4K monitors.

>>59599820
I still don't understand why can't they integrate fucking control panel into gayforce experience. As is gayforce experience is absolutely fucking useless.

>>59599705
try shooting that enemy when you are 500ms behind

>>59599836
They should just modify the Control Panel to look like gayforce experience. They shouldn't integrate it into gayforce experience because you shouldn't install it at all

>>59599843
Or they should revert gayforce experience to require no registration and integrate control panel in it. Just like ayymd did with Crimson or whatever their current drivers are called.

>>59599860
AMD ditched the Geforce Equivalent and integrated useful features like Relive and checking for driver updates into the driver software suite itself, they used to have Raptr for all that 'gaming experience' bullshit and 'optimizing' games and having an account, etc.

Crimson is just all around better, just typing this makes me miss it already. I really hope Vega is good but it could be another Fury X.

>>59599871
That's why I said. NVIDIA should also make their driver suite feature complete.

>>59599120
If i cant get a GTX 1080 for around 400USD can i just ignore Vega?

will AMD have a gtx1080 competitor around 400?

>>59599911
Maybe? Maybe no. Get 1080 you can resell it later anyway.

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>>59599878
They need to cut this shit out too, AMD can manage their feature complete suite a single process but apparently that's too high a hurdle for NVIDIA

>>59599921
Good lord I love me some more green botnet.

>>59599707
source: your ass

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>>59599921
AMD is pretty small. :^o

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>>59599980
>Antivirus

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>>59599120
Yeah, what a huge disappointment guys...

>>59599995
(YOU)

>>59600020
>>59599999

>They waited 1 year for AYYMD HOUSEFIRES when GTX 1080 was available in May 2016

TOP KEK

>>59599820
>set every game to default to 1440p without me realizing it when I have 4K monitors
>without me realizing it
>without me realizing it
>without me realizing it
Congratulations.

>>59600191
It does it as soon as you install the software, you don't have the option to disable automatic optimization until it has already done it with your currently installed games.

>>59600201
>without me realizing it
As in you bought 4K monitors without being able to perceive the difference.

>>59600224
The me not realizing part was not realizing all my games default changed to launching in 1440p, it wasn't me not realizing the resolution change until later.

Surely you would know what happens with a dual monitor setup when you launch a game fullscreen at a non-native resolution.

>>59599472
did you even read the post?

>>59599878
they wont

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ZMOn0X6jw

>>59600273
Why?

>>59599537

Guess again brainlet.

At rest, a neuron has .07 volts and your brain has anywhere from 60 to 100 Billion neurons. Each neuron fires at it's maximum speed 200 times a second. All on a microscopic nanoscale at 5nm thick. So just one synapse in one second is capable of generating 14 volts. Here's the kicker, each synapse is in a cluster of 1000s of other synapses.

>>59599911
woops, misspelled Can.

if i can get a gtx 1080 around 400, would it make anything AMD puts out irrelevant from a Price to Performance perspective?

was hearing rumors of vega's performance being between the 1080 and 1080ti, but id bet its going to cost a lot.

>>59599120
At least we know it won't be any worse than the 1080

>>59599128
Kys

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>>59600326
>yfw 14 volt overclock

>>59600059
but the pricing ....

>>59600059
>buying non-ti x80 cards
>any year
TOP KEK enjoy your glorified 980 Ti

>>59600326
How much current flow, though? A more feasible measurement is resting metabolic rate. Afterall, like a computer, the brain exists within an ecosystem. Without nutrients harvested from digestion, oxygen filtered through the lungs, and circulation of the above provided by the heart, the brain would shrivel and die. Thus all energy consumed by the BODY, measured in calories, must be considered.

>>59599537
>have no energy intake
>energy reserves run out
>die
Calories really make you think

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VEGA WILL FUCKING WRECK NVIDIA! JUST YOU WAIT!

>>59600363
>>59599128
Here is what were can bet on with math

IF we go on on amd needs that 33% of amds flops are useless, its better then a 1080
IF they have at least polaris efficiency, they are closer to a titan xp in performance then they are to the 1080
The magic number amd needs to hit is 15% inefficiency to match the 1080ti

This is all assuming that nvidia is 100% use of their flop potential.

Anything beyond this has yet to be discussed by amd properly.

>>59599411
no, as an amd user by choice due to despising nvidia for fucking me over hard in the past and having no third option, I'll look at vega most likely as cheaper then 1080ti, by a large margin, because apparently people cant get it though their heads that amd will be cheaper.

Consumers on vega hardware are the afterthought, enterprise is first, and whether oems hit msrp or not is another thing altogether.

I would honestly be shocked if amd's gpu performed somewhere between a 1080 and 1080ti and cost much more then a 1070.

Keep in mind, this is amd setting the price of silicon, not a third party who decides 8gb of gddr5 is 80$, amd is selling the package of 8gb of ram and gpu to third parties who will place it into their boards. And amd is selling them lowest binned shit at best.

>>59600352
why would it?
amd is selling consumers the low binned shit and enterprise the good cards.

>>59601249
>by a large margin
>HBM2
>cheap

>>59599411
i'd take performance between 1080 and 1080ti if it was priced right

>>59600201
Actually you do you faggot

>>59599777
>>59599806
Only way I can tolerate nvidia drivers is to use the 'custom' install option and disable goyforce experience

Never used any of their circlejerk features or "optimisations" anyway (fuck that, I bought a 1080 at launch so I could just max everything and not give a fuck)

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>>59601249

>I'll look at vega most likely as cheaper then 1080ti, by a large margin, because apparently people cant get it though their heads that amd will be cheaper.

Anon.. even AMDrones don't have faith in Vega. The die is fucking huge and it has HBM2. It's not going to be cheap.

If nVIDIA can pull off 1080ti performance with GDDR5X and no need for HBM, then Vega is fucked.

>>59599871
>I really hope Vega is good but it could be another Fury X.
It sounds like a "fixed" Fury X desu

Hopefully there's a new Nano card to match, because that thing was qt and showed off how much more compact HBM cards could be

>>59601759
HBM2 is not some magical stick, it's just a fast memory.

>>59599120
Well, I'm still on my R290, and I'm not upgrading anytime soon. Thanks consoles, for sucking so much, so I don't have to upgrade.

>>59602053
>R290
One of the best GPUs ever made.

>>59599578
>listening to /g/
You deserve it.

>>59602827
This is honestly the truth. My 290x is still running quite well. Playable at 1080p with high/ultra settings in all but he most poorly optimized games. It was less than 300$ three years ago.

>>59601759
GDDR5X is just a way of having highly clocked GDDR5 that doesn't consume as much power as having a really wide bus width. The R9 290/390 had a 512-bit bus width and thus high memory bandwidth. HBM is low latency and high bus width at low clock speeds, so don't stress over memory performance this much. It achieves the same thing as GDDR5X with a smaller footprint, it just happens to do it in a different way. 8Gbps GDDR5 on a 512-bit bus would have the same bandwidth as a Fury X.

>>59602922
/thread
I can still play every game on max with it

>>59599120
Vega is going to be the Ryzen of GPUs: finally a bit power efficient and actually theoretically stronger in most ways than its direct competitor ASICs but will only really look faster in software designed with it in mind, so most existing titles will make it look lackluster.

Expect for it to look like a monster in Prey and for /v/-tier faggots to bicker for months about whether Prey is just AMD bribery/sabotage of Nvidia or whether it's the future of renderers because of muh Scorpio, etc.

>>59604059
I have a 290 too, but I'll probably upgrade next year. I'll see if Vega is worth it, if not I'll probably wait for the 2060 (?) as CUDA is an advantage for me

>>59601776
The point is not that it's magical but expensive.

>>59604239
Well really, Nvidia's sabotage of AMD is so widespread that anyone who DOESN'T use GameWorks is pretty much sabotaging Nvidia by not following the industry. It's become very political.

>>59599578
>but muh bentium
>>59599995

Ill just be here, doing what i've been doing. Shitposting to prove shills wrong.

You do realize we haven't seen how it'll perform with HBM yet, right?

Perhaps AMD will make less profit per card senpai

But it also comes down to how it performs. I guess well have to JUST wait and see.

>>59600436
LUL thanks for the gif. made my sides melt off

Why worry about Vega when the 480 is so good?

$150 for maxing any game on the market at 1080P60 with freesync.

>>59599120
You can't be disappointed if you don't get stupidly hyped on rumors.
Stop being stupid and be pessimistic.

>>59606571
1. time waits for no one
2. higher settings exist

Hype Trains are bad. They are not just bad because a random frog on the internet told you so either, they are bad because they build upon themselves to the point that you would believe a random frog on the internet if he said something beneficial about your chosen product.

It's not just technology either. It can happen in politics, religion, whatever. But they are bad, and not to be trusted. They aren't just bad for humanity and all that, they are bad for the products they represent. Yes, they actually hurt what they are hyping. Ryzen didn't benefit from the hypetrain anymore than Trump benefited from the "Trump Train."

Bottom line is, hype trains take everything good and compound it, true or not. This raises expectations into the stratosphere and make them impossible to satisfy. Once the product, candidate, or what have you is brought into general existence, it will never satisfy what it has been built up to be. This leads to disappointment. Disappointment will not help sales long-term, nor ensure a safe re-election for a politician. The higher the hype, the bigger the disappointment.

So, don't be an idiot, and for god sake man get off that hype train before it kills all our realistic expectations. You aren't helping anyone.