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Tech brands you don't trust despite never owning any of

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Tech brands you don't trust despite never owning any of their products.
>Diablotek
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>>59556531
Seagate
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AMD
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Microsoft
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Apple
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Any cheap no name PSU made in china
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Rosewill
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Samsung
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Assrock
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Weyland Yutani
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>>59556635
This
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>>59556531

Who?
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Corsair
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>>59556614
Anything Seagate or WD equals trash for me.
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HEDEN
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>>59556531
someone redpill me on diablotek
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>>59556531
HP. Literally everything HP I've ever had has been utter shit. Never again.
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Acer
Not
in
my
house!
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gigabyte
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>>59556531
msi

my friend owned an msi motherboard.
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fucking lenovo

> to change the battery on my tablet i have to remove every single fucking component including speakers, motherboard, antennas and the volume button
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>>59557390
I subscribe to this.
Also I don't service any HP machine. These things are bombs
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IBM
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>>59557442

Really I loved my lenovo laptop so far
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>>59556531
I've had a power source and 2 HDDs from Seagate, all burned, the power source didnt even work to begin with. Disgusting. Never again.
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>>59556531
Asrock
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>>59557390
>>59557442
>>59557529
>i can't even read the OP
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>>59556531
any brand mentioned in csg
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This, and Sweex
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>>59557595
Ahh, now it makes sense. So it's another /g/ thread about discussing things you know nothing about.
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>>59557638
Ik heb een trust toetsenbord met witte Alps schakelaars.
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>>59556531
Acer
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Asus
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>>59556649
Only perfect answer here tbqh
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>>59556531
MSI motherboards.

I have owned one, it was a disaster.

Since then, given they are generally rated here and other places, I've thought maybe I was being a bit hasty.

But every time I hear of a motherboard going bang, being fussy about approved suppliers or some random cheaping out in areas you'd never think to double check (USB controller chips, that kind of thing), its MSI.
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>>59556614
>have 4 seagate drives in my server
>only have 2 now
>2 failed and make clicking noises
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>>59556531
Acer
Aerocool
Alphacool
Apple
AsRock
Corsair
Deltaco
D-Link
FSP
HEC
HP
Intel
LC-Power
Linksys
nVidia
OCZ
Powercolor
Razer
Rosewill
Sapphire
Telewell
TP-Link
TRUST
ZyXEL

With most of them I have had the displeasure to use their products, but haven't put any money towards specifically getting anything from most of these brands.
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Apple and MSI.
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There's so many mainstream brands people have listed it makes me wonder how they've never used any of their products. I've used many different things from a lot of different brands.
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Asrock
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OCZ

After them creating couple of generations of SSDs that had a retarded high +10% failure rate, I can never trust that brand again.
I think they were bought by someone after that SSD fiasco though.
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>>59556531
Intel
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>>59558431
I dunno senpai, my Vertex 4 has been going strong for over 4.5 years. I bought it at the time because it had one of the best warranties (5 years) and topped the consumer benchmarks for ages until Samsung dethroned them. Indilinx & Indilinx 2 were some good shit. Now that Toshiba owns them I'll never buy from OCZ again. I don't really have a reason to buy anything other than a Samsung 8xx/9xx though.
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>>59558781
>durr HURR my ssd still works, see It's a non-issue
What a retard. OCZ SSDs have a high failure rate compared to other brands.
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>>59556913
What would you get in place of those?
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-ECS
-Biostar
-Asrock
-Aerocool
-G.Skill
-XFX
-PNY
-Genius
-Razer
-Cooler Master's, Enermax's and Corsair's AIO Cooling Systems
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>>59558100
What's wrong with Acer?
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MediaTeK

>>59557390
HP Enterprise stuff is great.
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Top of the line garbage builders:
- Acer
- MEDION
- MSI (Mainboards)
- MS-Tech
- Seagate
- Sweex
- Trust
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>>59558886
A few select product lines had higher failure rates, AGI3/AGI4 and VTX4 were not among them. The same has happened to more or less every storage company, many have even gone on to become memetic such as the Hitachi DeathStar. (Which didn't manage to stop HGST from rising to the top of their field.) An aborted fetus of a product is not a valid reason to shit on an entire consumer electronics brand. Furthermore it wasn't "a couple of generations", the only drives that ever had problems were their first generation of Indilinx products. (Barring a SandForce firmware bug that affected every other SSD manufacturer using that chipset.)

Go suck on a tailpipe faggot.
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>>59558952
Pisspoor quality, cutting corners everywhere. I have yet to come across a segment where Acer offers anything even remotely competent.
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I've owned nearly every manufacturer's shit
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Acer
Trust
Adata
Asrock
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>>59558900
Fuck off back to /v/, double nigger.
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You guys are making me nervous about my MSI mobo.
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>>59557424
Same
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>>59556614
shit
I want to buy a NAS disk like the Seagate Ironwolfs.
How fucked am I?
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>>59558431
My 250gb Agility 3 still going strong i have also had and ocz psu that lasted 6 years.
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>>59556531
Dell
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gembird
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>>59558058
Confirmation bias. I read reports of faulty motherboards from all different manufacturers all the time. There's a lot to go wrong with a motherboard, and it frequently does. Personally, I stick to Asus because their UEFI implementation is the best, but I still read plenty of people complaining about dead/faulty Asus boards.
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Razer
asrock
I don't even know why I don't trust the ones below. The two above are either really hated by many, or I know someone who has awful experiences with those products.
Raijintek
Adata
Mushkin
geil
Team
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ASUS (cheap motherboards)
Enermax
Genius
Acer
OCZ
Any cheap WD brand.
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>>59556531
>2005+12
>buying a non 80 plus PSU
literally why?
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>>59557071
literally made by the devil.
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>>59556531
>brands
It literally doesn't matter, the base components are all manufactured in the same company.
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>>59556531
Razer

Asus
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>>59558431
It got bought by Toshiba and is significantly more reliable now.
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>>59558935

Asus isn't in that list, that can only mean two things.

1. You're a dumb nigger who bought Asus trash.
2. You're dumb and you trust Asus products even though you have no experience with them.
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Asrock
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EVGA and XFX GPUs, I've been browsing overclocker forums for years and every new GPU line up they always fuck up somewhere.

EVGA always cheaps out and releases half working GPUs, this gen with Pascal shitty VMR blowing up and last gen with Maxwell poor Power Phases that could barely deliver enough power to the GPU to work at factory clocks, I remember one guy in overclock.net having a EVGA GTX970 and battlign agaisn't for a whole year, then when told that EVGA GPUs were shit he defended them to his last breath even when shows EVGAs own forum posts about the low quality components used in the cards he refused to face the truth, he would tell newcomers looking to buy a GPU to buy EVGA and then would do so and later they would come back crying because it turned out to be shit.

XFX makes good quality products and their PCBs are good but only for the first batches, which matter the more for reviews and marketing. Later they cheap out and start using low quality components.


Surprisingly EVGA has a cult following in reddit.
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I shouldn't have come here, now I can't trust anything
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>>59563375
Who exactly should one buy a gtx1070 from then? Not Zotac for sure. Definitely not PNY.

Why exactly is EVGA so bad, aside from just saying they're bad?

This is not a 'don't bully EVGA' post but I would like PROOFS.
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Apple
AMD
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>>59563429
Last time I checked in the US the Asus Strix was the best 1070 and unironically Zoatc AMP Extreme series and Galax are the best but hard to find in the US.

Gigabyte is always good for Nvidia GPUs.


If you want proofs go check any of the "GPU clubs" threads in the overclock net forums, that if youre willing to read over 1000 pages
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>>59563532
Wait so are we talking about the GPUs in general or just the overclocking aspects?
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>>59563544
Overclocking is part of the GPU anon.
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>>59560071
Acer monitors are good
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>>59563429
EVGA quality-wise is middle of the pack. Their pascal cards are a step up from their maxwell line up though i've gotta say, even with the VRM support.

Generally, it goes buy EVGA if you want top-tier customer support. Buy MSI Gaming/Asus Strix if you want the coolest/silent cards. If you want cuhrazy clocks, go with one of those insanely clocked Zotac cards. I've also heard good things about Gainward but I can't attest to it.

Oh, and if you happen to live in Europe, get Palit.
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>>59563558
Let me be more specific. Are you talking about instability with boost clock functionality or overclocking after the fact above and beyond that?
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ASUS
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>>59563587
Overclocking capabilities are part of the package anon which in Nvidia BOOST case would be power limit set in the BIOS and the hardware capable of delivering the power needed.

There's no point in having a Power Limit of 250watts if the hardware can't actually deliver the power, such as was the case with vary EVGA Maxwell GPUs.

By the way, the Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 had a power limit of 280 watts and the actual hardware capable of delivering it, it was a beast and at the first try to, their 980Tis are beasts too and they overclock really good too.

Sadly, lately Gigabyte has been having a identity crisis releasing a bunch of SKUs like Extreme and the fuck, wish they would go back to their Windforce for cheap(which are actually good) and G1 Gaming for better high end products.
Even Windforce cards overclock as good as G1 Gaming cards.
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>>59556646
So pretty much all of them...
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>>59557699
Ik zou dat toetsenbord niet trust-en.
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>>59556531
>Apple, Razer, Sailfish thing
>chinese no name brands

>>59556683
Had their board accidentaly, it was fine. I would probably be more afraid of MSI, people tell me stories of boards bricked when flashing with their official app. but probably serviceable too, if you don't OC and do other stuff that can fry boards/VRMs.
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Razer, i bought a keyboard from them back in 2012 and 3 weeks after buying it the backlight would randomly shutoff and would not turn back on even if unplugged and replugged. I contacted razer and they agreed to look at it but i had to ship it to them at my expense. They sent it back saying there was nothing wrong with it and i had to pay shipping back + import fees on something i had already paid taxes on. To top it all off the fucking thing was greasy as shit and filthy coming back from razer. Never buying their garbage ever again.
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>>59563768
I would generally not trust any of these fairly newfag companies that appeared out of nowhere, started to offer shit gaming peripherals and accessories and hardware made by contract ODMs and pretends how it is a big reputable brand. So many of them exist now, and mostly everybody tries to make gaiming goods.
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>>59558100
Sapphire is based. Did you have problems with their products?

I own an RX 460 4GB. Its clocked higher than any other RX 460 and it OC's to like 1350mhz, memory OC's to 8008mhz easily, the card is hyper quiet and stays below 45C under max load. It also has nice aesthetics and cost the same as other brand's 2GB versions.

Honestly i've had a great first experience with Sapphire.
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>>59556913
>>59556614
Seagate is worse right now, it seems. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-benchmark-stats-2016/
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>>59563764
literally bricked a sandy bridge i5 2500 board two weeks ago with their update utility on a fresh install of windows 7

trash boards
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>>59564634
Everybody has a story about how they used some motherboard and something went wrong with it and so they're never going to buy that brand again, for every brand.
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>>59564661
at least with gigabyte if you fuck over your bios you have a dual bios switch so you can at least attempt to fix the old one

plus, back in the day these sandy bridge boards were having issues with QC. They were soldering the back of the ram slots together and people were having random bootloops at times.

They're also moving out of the high end overclocking scene real quick, at least on the AM4 socket.
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>>59563764
>>59564634
>MSI Phenom II board "Military Grade Hardware"
>blows caps
>replace it
>bios looses settings every reboot replacing batteries/cleaning contacts does nothing
>Cheap BIOSTAR still kicking 5+ years later
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>>59556832
This.
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>>59556531
Apple.
Most phone companies except Nokia and Motorola.
HP when it comes to laptops.
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>>59557390
>Tfw i have about 20 HP laptops that died from overheating and clients never bothered to pick them up

Why is it so hard to add proper cooling? planned obsolesce?

My HP All in one PC is working really well tho.
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>>59563375
I have a XFX R9 270X and it has been working really well for the for two years now.
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>>59557442
You complain about that?

Let me tell you about Acer V5 laptops.

>In order to enter BIOS you have to boot into windows and make it reset to recovery mode/advanced mode
>And do it again to boot to a USB since you cant change boot order
Why? Keyboard and USB ports are disabled on boot.
>Secure boot cant be turned off unless BIOS has a password
>There is no boot manager since Keyboard doesn't work when you turn it on
>Fucking CMOS battery is under the palm rest but you need to fully disassemble it to reach it

And its a fucking problem if you need to reinstall windows.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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There's no way to know if these branded coolers are good.
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>>59565967
>Aluminium
>No cooper at all
They are bad.
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acer
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>>59556531
Intel
Microsoft
Google
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>>59565967
if it doesn't have copper and heat pipes it's probably bad
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>>59566089
oh and if the fan isn't at least 120mm, it is going to be loud AF
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>>59558900
I'm guessing he's an HGST guy
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>>59564661
I went with an asus z170 sabertooth mark 1 board and had random memory dumps then eventually the board dies. Fans spin up but doesnt boot or show video, removed all ram same thing no beeps nothing. Shame to cuz it was the nicest asus board ive bought and usually only bought their boards. Now i prefer evga, have had no problems with it at all except switching boot to legacy to get windows 7 to boot.
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>>59563581
if ur saying that and you've never owned a 200+ monitor from another company then please keep it to urself
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>>59556531

Not owned but had many adventures in my line of work:

codegen
asrock
tp-link
biostar
trust
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>>59556614
my 2x400GB RAID-0 Seagate Barracuda ES has been running fine for 12 years
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>>59556531
GNU
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>>59561370
>>59560174
>>59558935
>>59558100
>>59557543
>>59556683
>>59563358
>>59566159
>all these anus pajeets mad that asrock broke away from asus and is now better than asus
stay mad and stay cucked
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>>59558900
HGST always
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Samsung.
I've had literally 5 PRO micro sd cards fail on me within 6 months.
I fucking order 3 shitty chink MIXZA micro sd cards from aliexpress (expected them to fail in <1month) and none of them have failed on me in 8 months (slower than the samsung ones though). I don't even know what to think anymore
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ocz, adata, msi, hp
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Packard Bell
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Samsung = housefires
Google = make ALL money off tracking you
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>>59566125
>>59567425
YES, HGST is best guy, he stores data and doesn't crash heads, lives long error-free life, much thanks to him
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>>59567425
>>59566125
So he gets his hard drives from a subsidiary of WD?
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NOGANET
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>>59556635
/thread
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Any of those one loop watercooling systems around $120
AMD (never tried it before. I always got deals that face me an intel)
Razer
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>>59571678
lol, I am reading your post from my AMD Phenom II PC, cooled by a corsair H50, and typing this from a Razer Blackwidow chroma with a deathadder elite sitting next to it.

The h50 has been cooling my PC about 6 years, no issues, running 24/7 except for shutting down to clean and power outages longer than the UPS can take. Same with the CPU obviously, i've used AMD since pre-Thunderbird days without any issues.

The Razer stuff is new to me, the keyboard was a gift and I bought the mouse after yet another Logitech failure. Haven't had them that long, and the keyboard is pretty overpriced, but so far, I really like them.
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>>59561109
Just buy Hitachi drives. Little more expensive but they last a million years
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>>59561109
HGST has NAS rated drives that are more reliable
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>>59556531
Huawei

Why?

>cheap as fucking hell iPhone UI - sweet fucking lord,even fucking Samsung did it a lot beter
>crap camera
>crap performance
>breaks easier than a Samsung - I've had Samsungs literally last longer than Huawei

>LOCKED BOOTLOADER HOLY SHIT

Anybody try to guess the specific model? It's from the Y series.
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>>59557440
Owner of a MSI board since 2 years here
Often emits a burning smell and something is leaking out of the VRM, but so far its working alright
And it doesn't boot if RAM speed isnt set to auto and needs a BIOS reset once in a while or it wont boot
Other than that its a fine board with pretty decent audio
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>>59573040
>Often emits a burning smell and something is leaking out of the VRM
Can confirm the leaking. The burning is another matter. Not sure if it's the board or my TV.
MSI gaming 970.
Still a good board.
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LeCroy
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>>59563764
Flashed BIOS with their official app, still working (had to use the app, because the download of the newest BIOS was missing files)
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>>59559226
Biostar makes fine budget boards and g.skill makes good RAM that overclocks well and has lifetime warranty
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>>59573127
>Biostar makes fine budget boards
You're kidding, right?
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>>59573040
>>59573069
>burning smell
>leaking VRMs
>still a good board
Fuck right off.
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>>59558058
MSI theme song: https://youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY
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adata
Apple
Biostar
Corsair
EVGA
geil
MSI
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>>59573186
Do you even know what's leaking?
>no
You fuck right off.
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>>59573223
>It's still a good board if you ignore all these awful things about it that other boards don't suffer from

No seriously, go fucking kill yourself. This is some crazy fucking denial here.
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>>59573249
>complaining about VRM's actually having good thermal material on a overclocking motherboard.
You need to rethink how you formulate your opinions.
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>>59556531
any gamer brand
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>>59564791
i have had 3 msi boards and they are all fine. did you get some cheap model that is not designed for overclocking?
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>>59573040
>>59573069

>still good boards

those are the type of things that make them bad boards. you won't even notice a good board.

>>59573658
the K9A2 blew caps, and the other is the one that stopped keeping bios settings, despite trying multiple batteries.
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>>59573658
>>59573741
also, I didn't even overclock on these boards.. to be fair the K9A2 also lost the graphics card, both the board and the card blew caps.
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>>59573741
It would be a good board if they fixed the whole "literally going up in flames" thing and a bunch of other major issues
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>>59573741
>>59573777
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B75MA-E33.html
thats what i use with a i5 2500k
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>>59556634
Nigga you had to have owned a Microsoft product before
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I don't trust any tech brands. I also build and solder my own CPUs.
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>>59564685
This could be true. I bought some hiend asus board for sandy bridge i5. Shit doesn't work for more than 5 minutes without a freeze when 2 ram slots are filled. It's 97 pro 3 I think. When I'm gonna buy motherboard next time, gigabyte is always good.
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>>59566257

Whatever you say, Wang.
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>>59574147
I almost forgot. It also freezes with hi pitch sound just like new Nintendo switch. Jesus, fuck asus. Hi end my ass
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i'm seriously considering BIOSTAR for my AM4 board...
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>>59573741
>the K9A2 blew caps
Am I one of the few anons that know how to repair a motherboard with bad caps?
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Opened a few things, but I do not trust pny, Acer or hp
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ASUS
Seagate <-- #1 Shittiest manufacture
Razer
MSI
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>>59563585
t. Gainward gtx 1070 phoenix owner here works pretty well but had some crashes where the card wouldn't give out any Video signal, the fans would start to go to 100%. But that was after I kind of tortured the thing for 8 hours with gaymes
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>>59575016

you do realize that Seagate is above WD in terms of failures in HDDs?
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Asus
GE (not counting incandescent light bulbs)
Behringer
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>>59575206
You do realize you're completely wrong and Seagate's failure rate is catastrophic compared to every other manufacture, right?
GTFO shill
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>>59566172
They fucked up after that typhoon in singapore or whatever.
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Cheap chinese crap with no actual brand.

Last time i bought shit from china with no brand it was already broken in the mail.
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>>59566257
I bought an ASCock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6 recently on the cheap, which was my first ever board from them. The audio was so shit that moving the mouse caused electrical interference noise, making it the first motherboard I've bought since 2009 to have interference like that.

Swapped an Asus Prime Z270-A in, with all the other components the same, and the problem was fixed. Never again, ASCock.
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>>59558431
My ARC-100 is good now desu
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>>59556531
Corsair
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>>59571260
WD bought their HDD division, but HGST drives are still built in separate facilities and with HGST designs afaik.
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>>59557951
I ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD.
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>>59574614
its not that easy to replace caps on modern boards. it was easy when the boards did not use solid caps
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>>59556531
Razer

I just can't stand the idea of them
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