>USA just passed a resolution to allow ISPs to sell your

>>59554246

I already turned on full telemetry to Windows 10 because I have nothing to hide. You need to give your telemetry to ISPs to improve service.

>>59554246
Britcuck most likely
How does it feel to be a serf of the nanny state?

>>59554246
/pol/ was a mistake

>>59554294
Not Britcuck actually. It feels great to live in a country where my government is not completely retarded when it comes to IT (could always be better though).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59554246
/pol/ is going to go full damage control and soon act like they always hated trump.

>>59554246
>Eurofag here, kuked hard
fixed that for you.

>>59554246
i honestly found it hard to believe this wasn't already the law

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AMERICA, HOME OF THE BRAVE, LAND OF THE (POTENTIALLY) FREE

>>59554707
Only a couple of months till the church is the divine authority again over everyone.

>>59554707
*AMERICA, HOME OF THE BRAVE, LAND OF THE GOYIM
ftfy

>>59554246
>you fucking voted for Trump

It has nothing to do with Trump. This is all the doing of the Republicans in the Senate, most of whom hate Trump. The President is just a figurehead for the most part. It's Paul Ryan and friends who are going to fuck you from behind while you're too busy ranting about Trump to notice.

>>59554246
America, land of the jews, where 50 year olds decide that your data does not belong to you, but the highest bidder.

America the country that does not give a shit about americans.

>everything wrong with America is now Trump's fault
How very convenint

>>59554715
>the church
haven't you read the canoodian news?
the mosque will will have all the authoritay.

i actually used to like america. however with recent developments i'm not coming anywhere near it. it is probably the shittiest country in the world atm

>>59554775
Europe, land of the sandniggers, where 50 year olds decide that your child is ready to fuck them and that you can rape infidels.

Europe is the continent that does not give a shit about Europeans.

>>59554774
Last I checked president has veto power faggot. He impliedly approved. Funny watching all you trump chucks get cuckd

So it's back to what it was like a year ago. Why did we need that law in the first place? I doubt it even stopped them anyways

>>59554246
And SOPA passed under Obama.

No matter who's president, Americans will continue to lose their freedoms. It's been happing ever since the 1920s. Every law passed since then only takes away from the people.

Are you trying to imply that Hillary wouldn't have pulled the same shit? Also funny that someone from Britain is complain about the US's policies when the it's trying to do the same thing.

>>59554825
SOPA failed under Obama though.

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>>59554811
>implying I'm an Amerilard

You don't even understand your own political system. Trump's opportunity to veto it hasn't even come up yet. Not that he will, because he can't afford to fall out even further Paul Ryan and the Superfriends.

Enjoy raving like a loon about the big evil orange lightning rod whilst your freedoms are quietly removed by other people.

>>59554246
/pol/ here
if you don't support Trump 100% and would give your life for the president, you are a liberal cuck CTR shill traitor blacked liberal muslim leftist marxist globalist democrat cuck scum!

Fuck off shils!!!
I want shils off my board
Ban all communist and leftist shills and anyone who doesnt stand with Trump and advocate for him online!!!

Anyone who doesn't support Trump is leftist scum

Praise kek!!! MAGA!!!

Can I buy Trump's data from his ISP?

>>59554865
You're not from /pol/

>>59554869
no silly, that's a matter of national security

can't let the commoners have any control now

>>59554668
they'll ignore it and call anyone who brings it up a virtue signalling cuck

>>59554865
Subtle.

>>59554774
>It has nothing to do with Trump.
It's not like he wouldn't vote for this shit.

>>59554873
Liberal cuck detected. I bet you voted for Hillary you CTR shill. $0.05 has been deposited in your paypal account. Can't wait until Trump drains the swamp of you and your ilk

>>59554889
Stop shitposting

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>>59554889
>Trump drains the swamp

>>59554889
>I want daddy Trump to rape my taxes while I watch and masturbate
>calls other people cuck

>>59554897
It's not shitposting to tell the truth about Trump that MSM is lying about, you libshit traitor. OP is clearly a paid ShariaBlue shill

Trump is going to MAGA whether you like it or not, communist.

C U C K S
i just love how usa got played by 2 parties system
it's sad becouse for many years usa was benchmark for it, technology and freedom.
Now

>>59554882
Virtue signalling has become quite the logical fallacy du jour

>>59554851
Hillary wouldn't have done this because it makes no sense. It was put in by Obama it has no effect on her popularity at all. Also the democrats in congress basically unanimously voted against it while the republicans unanimously voted for it.

>>59554246
Didn't vote shit and don't live in the US Toвapищ

Don't care.

But I'm sure FSB ( KGB ) will be happy to buy data from US providers, thanks.

>>59554904
Please work on your false-flagging, you're too obvious

>>59554904
Okay chaim.

Imagine if Hillary won the election and appointed a bunch of billionaires and Goldman Sachs/Exxon executives to her cabinet.

People would be rightfully outraged, but Trumpcucks are surprising silent when their cheeto cult leader does it. Really makes you think

>>59554246
>land of the free, unless you are a business owner
wrong. it's land of the free. period.

>>59554916
The only one falseflagging here is YOU, libshit shill.

Do you not support Trump?

>>59554906
And after Trump won, they blamed third-party voters for it instead of actual Trump voters.
Americans are fucking retarded.

I'm so glad to have Europeans, those paragons of justice and integrity, to lecture me on the shortcomings of my country.

>>59554925
At least he will build the fence and ban Syrian rapefugees. :^)

>>59554808
> Europe is a country

Educate yourself, amerifat.

And it still more likely to get shot by a random nigger in the US than it is to even bump into one here.

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>>59554941
>he will build the fence
American taxpayers are going to pay for it too

>>59554906
succes breeds jealousy and enemies like no other
also slaughtering over a million civilians in an unjustified war probly has sumthin to do with it
godforbid another country genuinely attacks the u.s now, all of nato would be like "oh no no no we're not getting sucked into nother 20 year war that'll bankrupt us and make our streets a war zone AGAIN"
honestly idek why trump wants to disband nato, anyone who's already apart of it should've left the moment they realized they were sucked into a war under false flag attacks. and all those millions who died because of it, you can even blame the current syria/isis caliphate on it too.
why are the scummiest most dumbest shitbags in positions of power? i'll never understand how politicians can be so fucking evil and still so fucking stupid at the same fucking time

>>59554964
Iraq wasn't a NATO mission though, only Afghanistan was.

>>59554889
> Trump drains the swamp
> Random companies get to rape us now for a few bucks

Let's see if Trump will protect us from this shit.

>>59554889
If 4chan Oscars were a thing I'd most definitely give my vote to you.

>>59554246
>government agencies on every continent have your data
>Muslims are taking over your country
>lol merica drumph
Enjoy your enrichment eurocunt.

>>59554951
Some people are going to lose part of their property to make room for it too. Also it's going to disrupt the migration of native wildlife along the border

>>59555008
Spics migratory route doesn't count.

>>59555008
FUCK THE ANIMALS. DESTROY ALL LIFE.

>>59555023
What if majority of the land adjacent is owned by a white guy? Land near the border is cheap. No Mexican is going to want to live near Mexico that's the point of them coming over

>>59555023
I tolerate spics if they're here legally, I know a lot of them voted for trump and support the wall despite what media wants you to think.

Has Europe need of another attack already?


>CA pls

>>59554276
Yeah but theyre generating money off of you and you see none of it

>>59555047
>>59555051
Fuck off spics.

>>59555069
Not even a spic.

>>59554246
Also, Exxon's CEO aka Trump's Secretary of State just approved Keytone XL.
Everything is possible under Trump's administration if you're a large corporation.
Net neutrality will probably go next.

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>>59554246
>yfw it includes browser history, financial data and even the content of emails

Top fucking kek America, this is what you get when you vote a guy to power who only cares about money

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>>59554808
>Europe
>Land
American education

>>59555065
Everyone on welfare is doing the same. I'll support your antimarket jihad when you decide to end the nigger baby factory.

>>59555088
>Europe
>water
European education

>>59555093
No way you're talking yourself out of this one fatty

>>59555079
> financial data and even the content of emails
It's supposed to be encrypted.

>>59555079
muh rust belt jobs

>>59555105
Yeah I'm sure your average American will know to get that shit done.

>>59555006
> I have to decide between rapefugees and companies selling my freedom

How about being against both, why are amerifats too stupid to come to this conclusion?

Also your country is alread far more infested than europe will ever be, stupid Trumpcuck.

>>59555077
Fuck off effeminate numale.

>>59555078
Thanks for being Warren Buffet's free oil train shill. Kill youself if you honestly believe corporate interests aren't on both sides.

>>59555079
>Allah be praised we Muslims of Europe are much more holy than Merica.

>>59555126
So do you have any argument on your privacy being sold to companies? Or are you just gonna yell 'lol muslims' over and over, like it's argument.

>>59555126
Fuck off anti corporate commie nigger

>>59555120
>le snowflake politics
>perfect only
Enjoy your rape.

>>59555120
If Hillary had been elected, do you imagine we'd be in a better position?

>>59555126
>corporate interests are on both sides therefore it's okay to shill for Trump and Exxon
LOL enjoy being used cuck

>>59555126
>Allah be praised we Muslims of Europe are much more holy than Merica.
is that why they slaughter more people there rather than in someplace like lets say MERIKAHH?
or is it that americans are better people than eurocucks and aren't worthy of having heads chopped off or being ran over throughout the streets?
>cUKland
not even once.

>>59555134
Not an argument. You deserve rape.

>>59555136
>confirmed nigger who can't read

>>59555069
Angry Trumpster spotted, hope you love paying for Trumpcare because my employer pays for my insurance and the millions of illegals out there aren't going to pay for the wall or the healthcare :^) have fun faggot

>>59555146
Yes because Hillary Clinton wouldn't be stupid enough to make the entire Goldman Sachs board of directors her cabinet.

I don't think she'd appoint someone retarded like Rick Perry to the DoE either.

>>59555154
>Corporations are the bad guys
You deserve to be thrown out of a helicopter.

>>59555091
How does that make it right? Do you jerk it to bill gates being so defensive towards microcuck

>>59555154
You have no argument? While I'm glad you admitted it

>>59555147
>hillbilly Clinton shilling is now this lazy
Just lie back and take the cock sven. You're our muslim bitch either way.

>>59555148
>merica so bad I wanna be muslim
Good faggot. Take in all our trash while we fight wars for zog. XOXO

>>59555159
Trumpfags are from reddit, thanks /pol/ for supporting mass immigration.

>>59555175
You sure are obsessed with Muslim dick, are you sure you're not projecting?

>>59555159
>having to go back

>>59555165
>implying you can read nigger

>>59555173
>look at me not caring about you REEEE

>>59555146
>M-muh Hillary
Hillary isn't president cuck you voted for Trump and you got him and so far he has done what he said he was going to do, it's not our fault you couldn't comprehend what he was going to do that's why Republicans were split on Trump. He's a lobbyist but since he's in on the game other Republicans aren't guaranteed fair prosperity

>>59554246
>USA just passed a resolution to allow ISPs to sell your data to other companies
>implying ISPs didn't sell data already

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>>59555146
No, hell I actually prefer Trump over Hillary because of all the butthurt it caused.

I hate the rapefugee shit and everything that is coming with it.

But Trumpcucks basically abandoned ALL critical thinking when it comes to republicans too, as you can see in this thread.

Either that or they are simply unable to differentiate between libtard propaganda and a fucking vote in the senate for an actual fucking bill.

There is a difference between supporting Trump, and swallowing corrupt politicians cum.

Can we get to the fucking point here.

I'm sure even trumpvoters can agree that they do not like their browser history, financial data and content of their emails being sold to companies for profit?

>>59555210
Trumpcucks hate any independent thought.

>>59555187
I'm a Muslim so yeah. Projecting my powerful American Imperial dick into your weak effeminate European cunt. What's it like to be a colony and an open air brothel for brown cock?

>>59555126
>both sides fallacy
You've been conned by an orange buffoon who's incapable of talking above 4th grader level. But you can't admit that to yourself so you keep spewing cult shit like a good little brainwashed drone.

>>59555223
>What's it like to be a colony
You should know best American, or do you not know your own country's history?

>>59555217
No, if Trump wants it then it must be good. It's what's necessary to MAGA and purge the country of liberals and mudshits.

If you question Trump, you are a cucked traitor and need to leave

>hillcucks project this hard
Convert to Islam and you can sue many for defamation. Good luck shitlords.

>>59555210
That's literally what's wrong with your movement my man I'm a Ron Paul supporter but Trump gets his support from liberal thinking much akin to SJW thought process
>Don't care who they are but they make them liberals mad lol

>>59555233
Still falseflagging I see

>>59555223
We have great traditions related to massacre minorities based on their religion. It will happen again, don't worry.

>>59555233
I sincerely hope you're joking

>>59555223
>I'm a muslim
sure you are

/pol/ sure loves to pretend to be black gay transsexual muslims for some reason

just use an ISP that guarantees your freedoms

>>59555240
>paid russian trolls are out in full force
How does it feel when your average wage is lower than China's?

>>59555251
It's a false flag, a true /pol/ cuck would shove in more reddit and twitter memes.

>>59555230
>let empire of old
I'm glad your children are groomed and raped every day while you get run over and stabbed. Allah be praised.

>>59555065
Literally every business does this you fucking idiot.
There's a good chance that the software you are shitposting from does this. Your os probably does this(unless you belong on /g/, I. Which case suck my teeth), the services you use probably do this, the ISP was already doing it, the different gov. Services you use do this. Everyone collects amd sells "marketing information", do you actually believe you don't already have a dossier?!? The different 3 letter agencies dontwven try to hide it you fucking moron.

Not saying it's okay. But, if anyone thinks this isn't standard operating procedure theyre crazy.

>>59555269
Too soon.

>>59555251
Trump is president now and that means you can't question him or doubt his motives, you fucking antidemocratic libcuck traitor. He is god emperor and no amount of libshit whining will change that. He has already made good on almost all of his campaign promises and is bringing back so many jobs to America AS WE SPEAK.

Get ready for 8 years of Trump and then another 24 of Ivanka, Eric and Barron after that.

MAGA out

>>59555269
Actualy occurence of crime is about 1/100th that of America in my country.

Stay mad

>>59554246
Has anyone in this, especially the onecls calling their opponents stupid and ignorant, actually read the legislation?

Please elaborate on what exactly has changed and cite the exact works used.

>>59555278
>Literally every business does this you fucking idiot.
>literaly every business sells the contents of your private email, financial data and browser history to other companies.

They don't, and if they would, you could sue them, but if this bill passes you can't anymore.

Take a guess at what that's going to do for your privacy

>>59555241
You are probably not wrong on that regard.

Thing is that no matter who you support people should understand that after the election you still have to whip the guy that won or else he will lose his way.

Politicians are like sheep, they are not intelligent enough to make proper decisions by themselves, it's just a matter of who steers them.

Support the person that represents you best, but never stop being critical. And if you stay silent afterwards, other people will control your representative for you if you just nod at everything from them on.

>>59555165
But only before it has taken off, onto a comfy bed of pillows, with pajamas.
You wouldn't want the police at your door for showing signs of potentially committing a crime would you anon? I'm sure you don't have a history of potentially dangerous behavior right? I'm sure you won't need to go through "sensitivity" training at "summer camp".

>>59555259
Prices are also lower there, so you need to take it relatively. Living in the western world is fucking expensive.

>>59555163
>>59555163
Do you not see the inconsistincies in your rhetoric? If Trump's aim is to fuck people over and make a lot of money, then it is a smart move to hire GS directors. Calling things you don't like "stupid" or "retarded" lends no credibility to your argument. Wouldn't you agree that in order to win the presidency and triumph over a smart lady like Hillary, Trump would have to be reasonably intelligent? The implication, when you say Trump is dumb, is that Hillary is even dumber. Is it so hard to speak rationally without resorting to name-calling?

>>59555330
Never heard of purchasing power parities I presume?

You can easily calculate relative wealth and people are still much poorer on average in China than in rich Western countries

>>59555290
>I enjoy watching my country raped by Pakis
Good. I want you to enjoy it. Don't ever resist. That land belongs to Islam.

>>59555341
I feel like I'm talking to an infant here, I'm probably right

>>59555333
>Calling things you don't like "stupid" or "retarded" lends no credibility to your argument.
I really don't give a shit if a retarded Trump voter finds my anonymous observation on an anime imageboard "credible" or not.

so no, go suck off your cheeto jesus and sell your ass to GS because daddy Trump said it would make america great again, faggot.

>>59555352
It's a redditor, what did you expect? If they can't instantly win an argument, they'll just shitpost.

>>59555333
Trump won by extremely narrow margins in a few key states. I think the fact that Trump did in person speeches is what won people over. Hillary is too robotic to give genuine sounding speeches. Trump is a probable narcissist so it's relatively easy for him to come off as legitimately caring in his speeches.

>>59555352
Infants can't really talk, so he's at least 4-5 years old.

>>59555352
What does a childless kafir know about children?

>>59554668
There's one thread on it right now with 60 replies.

>/g/ trying to discuss politics.
somehow even worse than pol.

>>59555399
post link

>>59555389
That is probably an accurate guess

>>59555311
(BTW, staunch advocate for privacy BTW)
Yes, it will make it more public. And instead of being able to do anything about it, we will be forced to act like criminals to retain our privacy. I assume because this is happening, we will see popularity of meshnets,self hosted services, and more ad-hoc style networks arise. Should not be hard to fuck the signal to noise ratio either.
O have worked for marketing departments and let me tell you, if you think this wasn't already going on, your naivety is over 9000.

You should have been worried for a long time.
But when I warned you all, you laughed.
You responded with jokes and insults when I was only preparing you.
You only took seriously your trackers and rice desktops.
Now, because you haven't listened, you, the people that had the power to change it, will be easy to denounce and control.
Reap what you've sown.

>>59555379
I wasn't even advocating for him, crazy. I'm just pointing out the fact that he's probably not as dumb as you're saying, and therefore you should change strategies. "He's dumb and his skin is orange" didn't work pre-election, it's not about to magically change people's minds about Trump now.

>>59555385
I'm actually not a huge Trump supporter. The reason I voted for him is because Hillary would just be a continuation of Barack, who was just a continuation of Bush. I didn't like Bush, so I felt pretty safe in my assumption that I wouldn't like Hillary. Trump may very well turn out to be a terrible president, and if so, that sucks. "May very well" is still preferrable to "assuredly."

>>59554246
Home of the brave, land of the imprisoned.

>>59555435
People... Don't understand... how law works...
It's incredible.

People also haven't read the proposed FCC rule. These people are apparently experts in law and a proposed rule they haven't read a word of.
Incredible.

People also don't know how technology works.
Point 33. in the FCC document it plainly suggests that encryption blocks much of what ISPs can see albeit still says mkre private information can be inferred. The claim that ISPs will be able to see "browser history, financial data and even the content of emails" is ridiculously wrong.
Incredible.

>>59555558
Home of the corrupt,
Land of the imprisoned.
srsly neow that drug war and then iraq/afghanistan.. how can anyone look at the u.s as anything but a rogue state hellbent on cocking over the world as much as possible?

>>59555568
>is ridiculously wrong.
Except you didn't explain how it's wrong, obviously people can encrypt their data but thats turning the argument on its head.

The argument is not that people cannot keep their data from isps through encryption, it is that they shouldn't have to, because private data should be private

>>59555311
>if this bill passes you can't anymore
What are you people talking about?

You have no idea what you're saying.

Please cite something to back up your claims.

>>59555568
>I didn't explain anything
>it's incredible
You're the biggest fag ITT

>>59555568
>reddit spacing
it's incredible

>>59555600
>You have no idea what you're saying.
>but I won't explain how you're wrong
discarded

>>59555537
> The reason I voted for him is because Hillary would just be a continuation of Barack, who was just a continuation of Bush.
Obama spent basically his whole term picking up the mess Bush II left behind while Bush's party fought him every step of the way. He tried to end the war in Iraq from nearly the beginning and he significantly cut back the number of people detained in Guantanamo. He signed climate change agreements with other countries and he appointed two justices who contributed to several notable cases. The dems only had like 2 years to really get anything done because the republicans regained their majority in the house and immediately applied the brakes and refused to take their foot off for any reason. Even still Obama's 2 terms were stable. The economy was on the brink of collapse when he took over and his policies pulled back it back from the edge at least for now. Stability isn't too thrilling but when you elect a giant moron like Trump then you'll begin to realize what you lost.

>>59555568
>It's incredible.
Your lack of understanding of the topic is the only thing incredible here lad.

>>59555612
Because it can't be explained just like that. You morons want a headline summary for a document that spans hundreds of pages.

>>59555592
At times the argument the FCC makes is that this legislation should be imposed on ISPs over other service providers, particularly third party internet services and trackers like Google and Facebook, because users can take action to protect themselves against these systems.

That very same argument can be used with ISPs, that users can take action with encryption and VPNs to protect their own private information.

You people have no ability to be humble as you claim these are black/white issues. Should ISPs be forced to not do something with information they receive from users? Why not Google or Facebook since they impact many more people and have more private information?

>>59555630
The proposed legislation and denial have zero impact on the vast majority of businesses that manage information collecting and selling your information.

None. You can not sue Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook. At no point was this ever going to be impacted in any way by this rule.

>2017
>still using the internet

Shiggy diggy.

>>59555723
> You can not sue Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook
... for collecting and selling 'private' information

>>59554246
I just didn't want war with russia man

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>>59555674
I just want to post this here to demonstrate how awful the republicans were to Obama. They literally created a bill which Obama vetoed because it was stupid, then they overturned his veto, and blamed *him* for not explaining why the bill was shit.

>>59555723
>Because it can't be explained just like that.
You explain it to yourself like that.>>59555723
>You morons want a headline summary for a document that spans hundreds of pages.
I bet you support socialism smart guy.

>>59555723
>Should ISPs be forced to not do something with information they receive from users? Why not Google or Facebook since they impact many more people and have more private information?

They both shouldn't be able to sell your private information.

Your whole argument is 'others do it, so everyone should be able to do it' that's such a stupid argument. Two wrongs does not make a right.

>>59555568
Oh, c'mon, that encryption will easily be broken by the systems actually looking at this shit.

>>59554246
Hopefully the EU-US Safe Harbor agreement will be nullified as soon as possible.

>>59555779
His whole argument that 'it's okay because people can encrypt their data' is beyond retarded.

By that analogy we should legalize theft because people can put locks on their doors.

Not even mentioning that your average citizen won't know how to encrypt their data

>>59555744
>LA LA land times
Nice rag.

This thread has genuinely humbled me.

I realize how fucking stupid it is to talk about subjects I know nothing about.

I'm never getting involved in politics again. You have to focus on one subject and study until you're knowledgeable in it, otherwise you're just a moron quoting the headline from some underpaid journalist. Getting emotional because the media you consume wants that reaction.

>>59554276
Yes, good goy, keep rationalizing.

>>59555815
Without actualy pointing out and explaining where people are wrong about what they are saying your words are baseless.

>>59555674
>Obama couldn't get anything done because of Bush.
Would it be reasonable to assume that Trump won't get anything done because of Obama? I do like stability, and if lacking from my life, I shall sorely miss it. As for the economy, it already collapsed. Basically all but the healthiest corporations are kept alive by government subsidies. I'm glad the lights are still on, and maybe Hillary would have been to negotiate lower interest rates for loans to keep the artificial stimulation going, but it's unravelling like a ball of yarn as we speak. On a global level, instability has been stalking the western world from the shadows for some time. Whether it's ushered in by Trump or Clinton is immaterial.

>>59555815
You're confusing rhetoric for arguments. You should stop and never come back.

>>59555809
If selling data on your private infrastructure is theft then piracy is stealing.

And you don't understand how technology works. Users don't need to know how to encrypt their data. It's not a physical action they need to take, you utter moron. All decent websites that handle any kind of private data are encrypted. That's what HTTPS is...

And what intelligent people would be doing is planning on how to make VPNs better. This is a great opportunity to encourage the majority of people to use VPNs with proper privacy policies instead of psuedo-privacy people had before.

And I hope many people in this thread understand that this wasn't a legalisation of anything, it was the denial to regulate ISPs. If you think that just now, under big bad Trump and his fascist regime, ISPs are invading your privacy, you're probably a moron.

>>59555865
Nobody in this thread has made valid arguments. Nobody has any understanding of law, they haven't read the FCC's proposal, they don't know why Congress disapproved of it and they think encryption is the windows bitlocker thing.

>And I hope many people in this thread understand that this wasn't a legalisation of anything

You're full of shit, it clearly is.

Again you're turning the argument on its head.

The bill is the reason people will need to step up security on their private data.

It's like saying, oh wow all this crime that is happening is fantastic, now people have incentive to invest alot in proper home security.

It's literally ass fucking retarded.

It's putting the wagon in front of the horse.

>>59555847
>Would it be reasonable to assume that Trump won't get anything done because of Obama?
Well Obama entered into his first term with a majority in both houses which allowed him to get some things done. Trump also entered into his first term with a majority in both houses although the margins aren't as wide as they were under Obama. The thing is Obama entered his term with the economy collapsing, it was the largest economic downturn since the great depression. His party had to address that and they also had to work on a healthcare bill. Those two things used up a lot of his first two years. Trump does not have to worry about either of those things. He did not inherit a recession and the healthcare system is doing decent at least. At the very least the healthcare can't be improved by anything the republicans pass because "Obamacare" is a republican idea in the first place. Obama and the dems picked the ACA because they wanted the republicans to cooperate with him on the bill.


>On a global level, instability has been stalking the western world from the shadows for some time. Whether it's ushered in by Trump or Clinton is immaterial.
People migrate when they cannot make a living in their old lands. Mass migration leads to existing lands becoming crowded and fighting over resources which are fixed. The biggest source of instability is pollution and climate change and Trump has no intention of fixing either of those things.

>>59555674
>Obama spent basically his whole term picking up the mess Bush II left behind
Yet he expanded every draconian law that eroded civil liberties and made them worse. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same asshole.

Why care? The worst a company can do is try to sell you something. The government can arrest you or kill you.
If you dont like it that much then use a VPN or Tor.

>>59555674
>He signed climate change agreements with other countries
you say that like it's a good thing, those obama lightbulbs have proven to cause cancer and the production of them are far worse for the environment than spending a couple extra dollars on electricity each month.
>Obama's 2 terms were stable
HAH, he had more riots than any prior president, he single handedly gave everything they fought for in iraq to the enemy (including billions of dollars of stockpiled weapons, vehicles, and ammo)
he illegally attacked sovereign nations breaking both national and international laws. meanwhile merikah went from top tier doctors to those of the same level as canadas.

not even going to mention the illegal immigration, and mass surveillance issues that were allowed to flourish under his regime.

personally i liked him, but you'd have to be a retard not to recognize how bad he was for the country.

>>59556003
>It's putting the wagon in front of the horse.
that's fucking genius mate.
NOW you don't have to smell horse fart and horse shit anytime you wanna go anywhere.

>>59556039
> He did not inherit a recession
Anon, that is exactly what got him elected. People are desperate, and acting out of desperation, voted Trump.

>The biggest source of instability is pollution and climate change

So it's not declining quality of life for large chunks of the population, not clashes between incompatible cultures, not the actual instability in the ME? The pollution certainly isn't good. There's not much I can say about that, it's pretty crazy that the fukushima cores are still melting into the earth. Climate change, though? The end result of the climate change meme is higher taxes and nothing accomplished. Do "scientists" even agree as to whether its geological or man-made?
No offense, but just to get an idea of who I'm talking to- how many genders would you say there are, and isn't it a travesty what China has done to Tibet?

>>59554246
Shillary is a judeo-satanist pedophile neo-communist kike who needs to be assassinated.

>>59556251
>So it's not declining quality of life for large chunks of the population, not clashes between incompatible cultures, not the actual instability in the ME?
Climate change and pollution will or already are contributing to all of that. Water dries up, plants and animals die off, the people left with nothing move. They move to the places where there's still food and water which is probably going to be countries that are well developed. Pollution affects the developed world mostly, it causes the remaining resources to become even more scarce.

>>59556359
>>59556251
Also I didn't notice this part:
>Do "scientists" even agree as to whether its geological or man-made?

Why is scientists in quotes? Do these people with scientific degrees not count for some reason? Why does your opinion matter more than theirs when they've actually studied the subject and you probably have not?

>>59556359
This is the first I've heard about scarcity of food driving the refugee crisis, and the fact that you won't comment on gender or Tibet is honestly worrying.

>>59556511
Scientist is in quotes because I'm implying that they are not trustworthy. Scientists used to go on television and talk about the health benefits of smoking. What's trustworthy is independantly verifiable tests.

>>59556548
>What's trustworthy is independantly verifiable tests.

You mean science? Interesting! We should have a word for people who engage in that sort of thing.

>>59556514
>This is the first I've heard about scarcity of food driving the refugee crisis
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/02/syrias-drought-has-likely-been-its-worst-in-900-years

>the fact that you won't comment on gender or Tibet is honestly worrying.
Not even worth dignifying with a response desu.

>>59556074
How would you go anywhere though

>>59556251
> Do "scientists" even agree as to whether its geological or man-made?
*Tips tinfoilhat

>>59556548
>Scientists used to go on television and talk about the health benefits of smoking

Those were people who were hired and paid by corporations to do 'research', and you're right to mistrust anyone who would publish research funded by the corporate sector.

That doesn't say anything about scientists who perform research funded by public resources.

What /g/eneral public is unable to comprehend, is that Obama's ban on selling user data by ISP was nothing but lobbying for (((new tech))) oligapoly in that field. Trump just plays for old school ISP giants, that's it.
Nobody up there gives a single fuck about your privacy. The Internet is compromised on so many levels, and corporations are interested in that as well as government.
Welcome to cyberpunk dystopia bitches.

REMINDER THAT REPUBLICANS ARE SHITHEAD'S

>>59556642
>What /g/eneral public is unable to comprehend, is that Obama's ban on selling user data by ISP was nothing but lobbying for (((new tech))) oligapoly in that field.
Yeah that literaly makes zero sense

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LOL

>>59554851
Well considering that Hillary supported net neutrality and every single fucking Democrat in the Senate voted against this, no I don't think Hillary would have pushed for this

It's a boon for the VPN industry too.

>>59556637
Public funding doesn't magically validate research.

>>59556610
Is it really that controversial of a question?

>>59556588
I guess it's all the drought then, even though a significant percentage of the influx isn't from Syria and there's war going on.

>>59556588
Also, you're free to dignify my question by saying it's not worth dignifying, but I find it difficult to take the 50 cent brigade seriously. You can make tinfoil comments all you want, but that doesn't make a difference concerning the reality of shills.

Oh my god, the liberal salt ITT. We're going to have suffer 8 years of this astroturf

Seriously though is there any way to have at least some privacy? I know the government just has hardware backdoors but I mean can I at least get some privacy through full drive encryption, disabling all cookies etc.?

>>59554246
You getting tired of winning yet you trump supporting cock sucking faggots?

If only his decisions would only fuck you retards over.

>>59555290
I won't just stay mad, I'll work to remove all the shitskins responsible for all our country's crime. The sad thing is eurocuck as are actually getting the choice for opening their borders, something the American people were never given, and they're so pathetic that they're proud to bend right over for it.

>>59554676
No one monitors me tho.

>>59556824
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a librul

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AHHH GET THIS STUPID FUCKING RETARD OUT OF OUR OFFICE

HE'S SO OBVIOUSLY INCOMPETENT AND JUST LISTENING TO HIS RETARDED SPECIAL-NEEDS TALKING STYLE IS GIVING ME CANCER

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59556686
Yup, alongside SOPA/PIPA. Are the shills just powered by pure butthurt at this point?

>>59556840
A VPN will hide all the sites you visit, just keep in mind the government *may* find it suspicious.

>"both sides are the same"
>all democrats voted against this, and hillary herself supported net neutrality
hmm really makes you think

>>59556899
>t-trumpkins B-BTFO!!!
>coming from anyone but a tear struck liberal or paid shill
Shows zero understanding of the American political process or the candidate's running platforms. Spammed without engaging anyone ITT correcting the sophistry. It's blatantly an attempt to push a narrative. Stay mad libcuck.

>>59556960
Please stop projecting, this isn't pol

>>59556960
Most of them are just fishing for (you)s, you idiot.

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This nullifies the FCC's earlier regulations put in place on December 2, 2016. Parts would have been made effective between January and June of 2017. The requirements of the regulations are fairly heavy. This would have been stricken down no matter what, and it was likely put forth with this intention. Evil Republicans are ending Internet Privacy! Go ahead guys, make fools of yourselves.

>>59556974
You kidding? /pol/'s even worse. Mods condone the astroturf there.

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>>59557007
dems can barely read m8. I wouldn't expect them to be insulted by something like being wrong. just look at how many of the retards fell for solar highways and the hyperloop

>>59556948
At this point I think the government is tracking so many people they can no longer usefully analyze the data anymore. Even with bots.

>Senate representatives Trump did not choose who coincidentally all fucking hate him vote on bill
>See! Trump tricked you! says increasingly assmad commie for the 6 millionth time
>it hasn't even gotten to him to veto or sign
Is it shills or just genuine idiots? You decide

>>59557052
Pretty sure the ISP's have a mass flagging system, which then the government would sift through.

>>59557007
Actually it was the Democrats that killed internet privacy.

This is fake news. The point is to take power away from the FCC and give it to the FTC. This is to ensure FCC censorship powers are never an issue with the net.
https://archive.is/Ma3ez
shilly, but this explains it fairly well.

They're just moving power from the FCC that Obama implemented during the net neutrality false dilemma psyop to the FTC – which means content is not to be censored (which is the power of the FCC)

This is regarding the vote today in the senate to "allow" ISPs to sell net histories to 3rd parties. It's just repealing Obama's bullshit in order to shift power to a non censoring entity (FTC).

t. /pol/

>>59557091
You're gunna need better bait

>>59557133
>>59557079
>mental gymnastics

>>59557133
Keep telling yourself it's nothing but fake news. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>59554246
>>you fucking voted for Trump
Less than half the country voted for Trump.

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>>59557133

>>59554774
>Paul Ryan
You nigger, Ryan is part of the House. The Senate passed it. Now it will go to House, then our Dear Leader.

>>59554246
>>59557208

>>59555975
I doubt the majority of /g/ eve uses encription
Safari on the iphone or chrome on windows 10

i hate all cucks, commies, fags, and millennials

>>59556887
>Being this deluded

>All of the European cucks in this thread.

Somehow your stench is pouring through my speakers. Please stop stinking. Take a bath. I want to puke.

>>59559734
>>All of the European cucks in this thread.
>Somehow your stench is pouring through my speakers. Please stop stinking. Take a bath. I want to puke.
Put your fake cheeseburger in your ass haha

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>>59559734

Yurocucks are fine with getting ran over by refugees.

They also have no problems with their Government literally CENSORING "hate" and torrent sites. I can access any site I want to here in Murrika, yurocucks can't say the same.

Also we have faster internet than Yurocucks.

>>59554246
If we would have voted Hilary in we would have literally went to nuclear war with Russia

>>59560213
Britcucks are no longer european

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>>59560213
>Mr.Data cap is talking about having better internet than Europe.

>>59560213
Boris slavshit in any post communist state has better and faster internet than burgerclap

>>59560213
I have GB speeds in denmark

What do americans have? still sub 30mb/s bullshit? oh and if you live in fuckholes like kansas you get what? dialup? datacaps? throttling?

>>59560387

No they don't. Only certain blocks MIGHT have fast internet, the rest of the country is shit. Stats don't lie.

You have none.

>>59560417
>stats don't lie
the same stats that say they have higher than average speeds than america?

Even then, I like it how 10 of some of the highest population density states were chosen

>>59560334
You say that like it's a bad thing? We'd win easily. Fuck Russia, they are bad for the world.

>>59560417
Eastern European internet has no data caps and usually don't give a shit about piracy. Face it lard, third world is doing better than you.

>board for technology
>overrun by Chinese and Indian shills
Why do I come here?

>>59560431

Yeah the same stats that have Multiple US States being faster than all of Europe.

I like it how you have no problem comparing then entire US to small Yuro nations, but then start complaining when we start matching up US states with similar populated Yuro nations. Butthurt much.

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>>59560334
>Amerifats actually believe this

>>59560522
>Yeah the same stats that have Multiple US States being faster than all of Europe.
Then where are the other 40 states?

>>59557197
>>59557177
>>59557232
This is what astroturfing looks like. Post clarifying the spin gets immediate response discrediting the poster without actually addressing the clarification to create a manufactured narrative. Possibly all one person with 3 sock puppets, possibly a team of shills, possibly entirely independent posters acting as useful idiots following their programming. The OP article is click bait spin, these anons are both correct:
>>59557133
>>59557007

>>59554246
How many of you eurofags forget that this has to go through the House?

And besides, this is Obamas fault. Maybe next time, try not to start a powergrab at the very end of your term.

>>59554889
As someone who has drained swamps for a living, let me tell you what happens when you drain a swamp. It starts to stink like shit, real bad. Then you're wondering why all of a sudden it smells like a public sewer system for miles, and how you wound up with West Nile Disease.

Yeah, super fun. Let's drain a couple of swamps.

>>59560999
>It starts to stink like shit, real bad.
The Europeans must've bathed in it, the savages.

>>59560213
I can access any torrent site and torrent shit without worrying about my ISP, and I get an unlimited 100Mbps/20Mbps data plan for only $30/month. Feels good to be a slav.

>>59560435
>we'd win
>when Russia has more nukes
>when Russia has bigger nukes
>when Russia has faster nukes
okay lad

>>59560549
Fuck off, KIKE

Russia literally said they'd nuke if we elected the judeo-satanist pedophile kike witch

The Senate is doing this to monitor any terrorist activitity. I doubt they are going to be snoozing around seeing which pr0n sites you go to. Simply viewing web sites aren't illegal. I'm not FOR this law...but I don't think there's any significant worries. Then again, your ISP knows what you do online anyway....if they get a warrant they can figure you all out

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>>59560334
Jesus, you fucking trumpfucks are so fucking retarded, its unbelievable.

>>59556687
Yeah problem is that if those tech illiterate fucks learn what a VPN is due to their increasing popularity, they will ban them too.

And newfags like the Trumpcucks in this thread don't know much more about technology than these 50+ year republican shits, so they will of course support the rape of their rights.

> Muh liberty
Yeah sure, how does it feel to be a company drone? You probably preach brand loyalty as well.

Shit it doesn't get more cucked than the USA currently.

>>59561151
> Allowing ISPs to sell your activity to ANYONE
> The Senate is doing this to monitor any terrorist activity
Read again on the topic, if you so desparately want to go full ignorant mode, please stick with the old "Nothing to hide".

>>59554246
good luck trying to sell data of a guy who just looks up hentai and kissanime.

>>59561248
>>59561374
Kill yourself, you gay anal guinea homo millennial cuck KIKE jew from /utg/. Die in a bus fire. Die in a river. Die in a river fire. Cuck. Kike. Anal homo. Guinea millennial jew. Kill yourself.

>>59561060
If this thread isn't proof professional Trump shills haven't infiltrated most social internet bastions to disseminate misinformation I don't know what is.

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>>59554861
SHUT UP YOU LEAF PLS NO BULLY!

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>>59555731
BRING IT BACK BOYS

>>59554246
>>59554432
>>59556887
>too much of a pussy to post country

yes they do

>>59562338
>professional Trump shills
Epic. Nice disinfo, you CTR ShariaBlue Soros jew KIKE.

>implying hillary wouldnt be just as bad on this issue

Either way we were fucked

>>59562740
How do we bring this back

>>59561083
Are all Americans cowards like you?

>>59554246
>imagine being this european

>>59563925
t. gay guinea anal homo faggot SJW communist marxist jewish kike millennial cuck.

KILL YOURSELF

It doesn't just allow ISP's to sell it, it also bans the FCC from ever regulating ISP's in this area again.

It still needs to pass the house so it can still be stopped, don't be lazy, call your representatives and tell your friends and families.

America why have you guys been committed to fucking your shit up since the start of the 21st century?

Why even fight at this point?

>>59564088
Not our fault the Jews are so committed to destroying Western civilization. Maybe if you Euro kike faggot millennials didn't enable them so much in the first place...

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>>59561083
>non-existing threat
>bending over to the ruskis just in case anyway
Truly sounds like the land of the free.

KEKED BY TRUMP

HAHAHAHAHAHA

MAGA MAGA MAGA

>>59554246
Let me tell you, as a Republican, the one thing I cannot stand about my party is how poorly they understand technology or the internet

>>59564088
Because half of the fucking country is making non-issues like which bathroom a mentally deranged freak should use the hot topic, letting the government slip this shit past everyone's attention.

>>59556887
Yeah they do, legally too because you're not a US citizen, yet you're still balls deep in the US sphere.

>>59564197
>60,000 armed nuclear weapons pointed directly at us, and ready to be launched on instantaneous notice
>non-existing
haha yeah epic we should totally just elect a moloch-worshipping globalist SJW pedophile instead xD xD
and let's also have lots of unprotected gay anal sex too xD xD xD
and let's take these jewish pills that fuck with our dicks and turn us all into impotent sterile gene-damaged tranny mutant cucks xD xD xD
and let's all circlejerk to gay furry moloch fanfiction in the le epic /utg/ junta IRC xD xD xD

>>59554246
>he isn't american
>his country was too stupid to even invent the internet
>thinks his opinion matters

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>>59564312
Whatever you're spouting is clearly some maga-degenerate gibberish. I'm sorry for you.

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>openbsd received donations from google, microsoft, facebook

Yup, I've given up. The one actual nonmeme OS that was supposedly safe from CIA zero day probably has some backdoor hidden somewhere from some google pajeet or facebook cuck. It's over /g/ just accept ((they)) won.

Only death is freedom from ((them))

>>59561083
Ignore shills. Sauce?

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>>59564197
Different anon and not American. I just really don't like that dumb bitch and I don't care what the consequences are

>>59565480
haha epbin xD upkarma'd on le facebook

How long until companies buy logs to look for copyright infringement?

>>59554246
>implying Hillary wasn't planing on doing the same shit.
Literally >>>/r/eddit

>>59554865
Guess I'm a liberal, but I still want to bury a 68 grain slug in your skull...

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>>59554865
It looks like an instance of /pol/'s Law:
No matter how retarded a right-winged post is, there is always a /pol/tard who unironically agrees with everything in it.

Why aren't you lynching the fuck out of your senate, burgerclaps? This is a direct and major attack on your freedom. A lack of privacy is a lack of freedom.
This is the exact reason you have your right to bear arms. To protect yourselves from a tyrannical government. Exercise your rights.

>>59569360
>This is the exact reason you have your right to bear arms.
No, you don't understand.
Right to bear arms is there to take down tyrannical governments that want to provide universal healthcare, lower income inequality, separation of church and state, freedom of speech and freedom of congregation.

It's not for True American governments that, for a small cost of freedom, want to stop all the hippies and commies from polluting the country with their commie ideas.

>>59554246
got something to hide, pedo-terrorist???

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU KEK

>>59554909
>The bitch that supported the TPP, which would corpratize the internet and give corporations a shitton of power through copyright, wouldn't support further crackdowns on our privacy on internet

>>59554941
>he will build the fence
This meme again. There's only going to be a fence on already hard to cross territory, because why spend more money on what's not broken. The rest of it is going to be a wall
>>59555163

>Hillary Clinton wouldn't be stupid enough to make the entire Goldman Sachs board of directors her cabinet.
She's stupid enough to have her Goldman Sachs speeches leaked though

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>>59569360
1. Most people don't care. If you randomly polled Americans the vast majority will have never heard of this
2. Even if people did care, what could anyone even do about it? Millions can have protests, but in the end the senators will say "lol nope still gonna vote the way I was originally going to".
3. 2nd Amendment does nothing if we hypothetically became a military police state. They have tech even more advanced than pic related, made for the sole purpose of dispersing crowds in the early stages of uprisings.

>>59570061
>The rest of it is going to be a wall
Sure thing
A known liar who is already backing down on all his promises will keep that one because uhhh... he's "based".
This time it will work!

>>59560549
>>59561248
>>59564197
>>59565480

She did litterally say she wants a no fly zone in Syria, where the Russians fly planes. It's not hard to guess that if she actually implemented that, it would lead to WW3 pretty quickly

>>59554276
Nice try, Sheckelstein

>>59570096
He's literally in the process of finding a contractor you fucking tard.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/23/companies-bidding-contracts-build-donald-trumps-mexico-border-wall

>>59554865
>totally not false-flagging

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>>59560334

>>59570120
Sure! Wall (((soon))) fellow mindless drone!
He's soooo based! This time he won't back down on his promises! This time it will be different!

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>>59570149
>I have no argument and I must shitpost

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>mfw salty drumph voters
>"I-I have nothing to hide!!"

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>>59554246
This is what happens when you elect a monkey as your head of state

>>59570223
>This is what happens when you elect a monkey as your head of state
Obama isn't president anymore. Neither is Bush.

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>>59570232
But Donald.T is

>>59554276
>I already turned on full telemetry to Windows 10 because I have nothing to hide
Nice one shlomo

>>59570232
>>59570223
Obongma is a monkey, Trump is a flamboyant baboon

>>59570248
Yeah, but we elected two monkeys before him that did nothing but destabilize the Middle East to the point where Iraq, Libya and Syria are non-states along with antagonizing our allies in the world (Obama with trying to tell the Brits how to vote in the Brexit and causing the Syrian refugee crisis through his endless warmongering and Bush with his endless warmongering as well)

>>59557133
>Nobody should fall for this privacy shell game. The FCC’s broadband privacy rules are currently the best protection consumers have for their personal information online.

>The rules also require that ISPs keep customer data secure and notify customers and law enforcement in the event of a major data breach.

Look, I'm not well-read on this subject, but don't you think the messaging in your post contradicts the messaging of the article you linked?

How is this good for the American public at all? It seems like we're just losing more and more rights and you're all for it...

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>>59557133
>they aren't actually taking away your rights, it only looks like they are
>they are actually giving you those rights back, it only looks like they are taking them away
>believe me goy
Cuckest of the cucks

>>59557007
Source? I forgot the name of that hentai.

>>59570359
I meant on the image

>>59554964
>why are the scummiest most dumbest shitbags in positions of power?
you have a lot to learn about how the world works goy.

>what is a bicameral congress

>>59554964
>why are the scummiest most dumbest shitbags in positions of power?
Because idiots vote for the one who offers the simplest answers to the most complicated questions, not for the people who give boring, factual explanations.

For example,
>There is income inequality because the rich benefit from income inequality. We can't kick out the rich, but the restructuring in law x should make it harder to avoid taxes with that one loophole. Then we will introduce a tax on behavior y, which is commonly used by large companies to exploit laws, but not by small companies. Then we will cut spending to military by z%. This will give us a high probability of increasing annual balance by 5%.
Would get you snoozed out of the government.

But instead saying:
>You know who is behind this? (((Kikes)))! and illegal immigrants! I will gas the kikes and race war the immigrants!
Will get you votes from all the retards who want to see own perceived enemies fall, not own country rise.

>>59569360
Because the people that care are likely anti gun or just dont own a weapon. It'd be very easy to assassinate these senators, but even the people that care dont give that much of a damn.

>>59570359
Euphoria

>>59571190
But if the kikes were gassed the problem would be solved

america is fucked
they literally had no way to prevent this
if they voted clinton the same would happen

>>59571232
The problem of kikes, not of kikery.

>>59571231
Thank you