With the latest news from Congress, it's official. I need

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>>59547650
Make your own with a raspberrypi

Your essentially just trusting another company to have full access to your internet history since there's no way for you, yourself, to verify that they don't keep logs other than their word

Since I have ProtonMail Plus I get ProtonVPN for free (for now anyway).

>>59547650
you are fucking retarded if you think a vpn is going to keep you safe from the government

>>59548180
This doesn't help OP at all since he doesn't trust his ISP. Which mostly just proves you're not competent enough to run or use a VPN at all.

Proud Trump voter here...

He's doing more damage then I anticipated. I didn't expect him to burn the whole fucking thing down in months.

This kind of damage usually takes years.

>>59548322
This is the reason some of us voted for him though. Rather burn the whole shit down than hand it permanently to the establishment.

>>59548369
newsflash fucker, civilization has been in the hands of the establishment since its creation

>>59548369
nothing is burning down except the legitimacy of the government. which means that comcast and google and amazon will now rule the country. good job.

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>>59548369
>old white man with money
>not the establishment

>>59548165
>shitposting from behind 7 dimensions

>>59548400

Pop quiz, Hot Shot. What is there to rule when theres no basis for a power structure left to rule from?

When the stages are turned to ash, and the pillars of authority have crumbled beneath their own exorbitant excess?

476 mother fucker.

>>59548428

Most corrupt President since Nixon, and we haven't even reached six months in office.

Wew!

Hell of a straw man you conjured up.

>>59548400
And its hubris grew to the point of revolution more than once, what's your point?

Don't blame me for the fact that the establishment picked the one candidate who could lose to Trump.

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>>59548554
trump is also the establishment desu

Hey dumb, kinda related question here.
If I want to use TOR and a VPN, does it make a difference whether I connect to the VPN throughtTOR or if I connect to TOR through the VPN?
If it does, which option is better?

>>59548594
I don't dispute that, but he's the most destructive element of it. This will force change. Burn it down.

>>59548631
Don't use Tor. It does more harm than good.

LONG LIVE MOLVANIA

>>59548631
They're equal.

>>59548653
Is there an alternative to acces dark net markets?

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>>59547650
>>59548322
>>59548369
>>59548400
>>59548529
>>59548594
>>59548644
>>59547650
>less Government regulation
>nu/g/ see's this as bad because of the massive leftist biased that has invaded the board in the past 5 years
Damn shame. /g/ used to be a classical libertarian paradise.

>>59548790
Actually, I've been here longer than you and everyone always agreed with me, not you.

Check. Mate.

>>59548790
Inuyasha is Dragonball Z for girls.

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i had heard this board was bad but...
i just want VPN picking advice
26 replies not one relevant suggestion

>>59548180
what the fuck will that do? He needs a VPN so his traffic is encrypted and his ISP cannot see what he is doing.

>>59549039
Stop being so needy OP.

>>59547650
stop spamming this shit you filthy faggot
vpns are fucking worthless garbage which literally sell and intercept to reroute your connections.
fuck that, fuck you, and fuck these faggot pedo mods who allow you cucks to spam this place with their advertising campaigns.

>>59549133
i'm not op, i almost never visited this board, i came for the vpn advice
but the raspberry pi one is interesting, i gotta mention it

>>59549190
alright master wizard enlighten me then
how do i torrent without getting fined

>>59547650
HOW ABOUT GETTING HELP AND FIXING UR ADDICTION TO CHILD PORN, U FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT?

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>>59549216
basically my private internet access subscription runs out like april 5th
give me stupid misleading advice that makes you laugh

>>59548400
really, really makes you think

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>>59549225
dude i like my movies, music, books even, torrented.
over here it's a 1500€ fine at third strike over like a 18 months period
on top of that necessity i enjoy the perks, mostly bypassing country bans

>>59549192
>i'm not op
Sorry.
Stop being so needy, fagggot.

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>>59549329
b-but
ok i'll just lurk then
poop
also i love Macs and iPhones

How far back does this extend?

Does a VPN even do anything if you are using a modern botnet system like OSX or Windows?

>>59549039
Ignore them, those are /v/ermin shitposters

>>59549385
>>59549358
>hurr durr my isp is exposing my browsing habeets to corporate shills
>how do i expose myself to more corporate shills at the same time as my isp, that'll surely help!
vpn is the complete opposite of privacy you fucking retarded cucks.

fuck you /g

bunch of nigger bitches

op, take a look at purevpn

>>59547650
I use cryptostorm they are the best for security and privacy from what I can tell. They have a lot of IPs to choose from. The main problem is that you will need a 4chan pass to post since the IP ranges are blocked here.

>>59548369
>>59548322
Why are you ignorant shit lords always so fucking proud about how stupid you are? I've never seen people with less self awareness than Trump voters. Like a pig in shit.

>>59547650
https://thatoneprivacysite.net/

>>59548529
Go masturbate in the woods to your anarchist, libertarian fantasies if they interest you so much. Shove up a pinecone up your ass while you're at it. To really get into the doomsday prepper mantra.

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>>59548369
>rich billionaire president with cabinet appointed full of Goldman Sachs, ExxonMobil lobbyists/CEOs
>not the establishment
Why are Trump supporters so stupid /g/?

If you think Trump is going to change anything, you are delusional.

>>59549767
>Boohoo they are richer than me so they must be establishment politicians
You have no understanding of the vast difference of wealth between the establishment and the guys trump brought in

>>59549785
It's like you're really retarded.

>>59549785
>Goldman Sachs and Exxon aren't in favor of the status quo
hopelessly naive

>>59549791
>>59549815
He listens mostly to Bannon for advice. Please go ahead and tell me he's establishment.

>>59549849
>former Goldman Sachs banker
k

What happened?

>>59549902
the Senate passed a bill that would allow ISPs to sell 100% of the data they collect on you to anyone they want without your consent (including financial/health info and SSNs)

they did this on the pretenses that it will somehow create jobs

yeah

>>59548790
>animeposter bait shit but I'm replying anyways
You do know this is a republican scheme to extract more lobbying bux from the likes of Comcast right? Just look at who's signing the bills to take away your rights.

Yet you're too fucking retarded to read articles and instead choose to skim the headlines and scream LE LIBRULS ARE RUINING EVERYTHING?????

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>>59548428
>le whuite main
This is the other reason

>>59548409
>nothing is burning down except the legitimacy of the government. which means that comcast and google and amazon will now rule the country. good job.
how long until these stupid fucking libertarians realize that if the government evaporates that doesn't mean an egalitarian society magically appears in it's place. what happens if we descend into corporate feudalism.

I swear the alt-right are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.

>>59550002
A lot of the bullshit politics does, including this, really could create jobs.
But it doesn't because that would be a middleman for lining the pockets of the upper echelon that pushed these bills in the first place.
Basically, why get only part of a paycheck from more average joe workers when you can just get the full amount.

>>59548184
I don't give a fuck about the government I care about fucking companies buying my internet history

If the reason I want a VPN is because I don't trust my own ISP / gubmint, then how is hosting a VPN on a server in my home going to help? And if using a VPS, how can I trust that THEY aren't keeping logs on what I do on that server?


>whilst server is on all files are unencrypted anyway
>they can actively monitor users
> encryption of a drive only protects you when the drive is locked and unpowered

help

>>59549216
Get Private Internet Access. its like, 5 bucks and I've been torrenting off of them for a few years. They're pretty good and have reasonable speed

>>59550185
why would you host a vpn in your home, it's not going to help at all

>>59550150
yet you have no issue having cookies and googles ajavascript enabled to shitpost here...
go figure.

bumping this thread
What vpns are you using?
http://cryptmode.com/best-non-us-based-vpn-to-protect-privacy-cisa-bill-patriot-act-freedom-act-gag-order/

>>59547650
You could rent a vps in russia or some place that isnt friends with ur ISP and set up openVPN cost u like $3 a month and works great

>>59551622
yeah but then you have russians handling your bank information.

The question should be "How do you access the Internet without an ISP"

>>59548653
>It does more harm than good.
How?

>>59548553
Nixon did nothing wrong it was all a setup. If he wanted to spy on the dems he would have used his top guys not sideshow bob

>>59548322
Get the fuck off /g/ shareblue faggot.

>>59548322
>Implying this wouldn't have happened under Obama

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>>59551685

Can't you just turn off the VPN when accessing that kind of stuff

I've seen a few people on Reddit recommending to pay for a vps and setup a VPN server on that. Is that a better idea than just paying for a regular VPN?

>>59551777
this
reagan was the real crook.

>>59547650
you realize VPN goes through ISP infrastructure? right?

>paying so someone else can sell your information

Don't things have to go through the house before being passed? Am I being an optimist fool to think that with the current uproar that this bill is likely to be shot down?

>>59552120
you realize a vpn is encrypted right and the isp can only see that you are connecting to the vpn?

If you think a VPN is going to protect you from the feds and the corporations youre sadly mistaken.

What countries' vpns have the least problems? Like youtube's 'this video is not available in your country' type problems.

>>59552215
>>59552132
thank you nsa shills

>>59547650
digital ocean + openvpn

Holy fuck. Use a goddamn VPN. I know all the real O/g/s know how end to end fucking encryption works. Here's a goddamn hint: it isn't called end to some random jackass in the middle.

There's shit posting and then there's just embarrassing yourself.

>>59552347
Right, but if the ISP watches the packet go from A to B they can still figure it out. Obviously what's on that packet is still encrypted, and the packet is probably unlikely to stay on one ISPs tubes the entire time.
VPN is clearly better than nothing though.

>>59551820
>implying that this didn't actually override the bill that the Obama administration put into place to prevent ISPs from selling the information the collected.

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>>59547650
> trusting 3rd party vpn providers
nice try, FBI

OP look into Mullvad. I think it's one of the safer options. Also don't get anything hosted in USA like private internet access.

>vpn
>tor
did people forget rule 41 passed a while ago?

>>59551685
But Banking sites use ssl so the russians cant see the information being transfered.

>>59548165
>Jay Leno: Woman of the Year.

>>59551896
I put a boogie dollar down but it's easier to avoid Russia entirely.

>>59548631
Here's how I figure it:

VPN -> TOR
In this case the VPN provider knows that you're using TOR. He knows your actual IP, but not the shit you're doing. Your ISP knows you're using a VPN, but not that you're using TOR.

TOR -> VPN
Here the VPN provider doesn't know your IP, but he knows that it is the same you anyway (as in your login/password). Your ISP knows you're using TOR and your IP.

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>>59552433
>assuming all VPN's in the entire world are American businesses

>conspiritard

>on /g/ but no idea how encryption works

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>>59547650

>>59548369
You get to be the establishment when you're not incompetent

TRADE THE SPIES FOR MORE SPIES

>>59552219
north korea

>>59548180
>there's no way for you, yourself, to verify that they don't keep logs other than their word
>contracts are worth nothing
>it's just words

You can always sue them if they break their word

>>59549242
>that pic

>>59554085
>being this new

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>>59548322
>>59548369
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

How good is PIA? it is the most popular I guess. I really don't like the idea of my information being profiled and sold by American ISPs just cuz I browse 4chan

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>>59554140
You're supposed to say truck keys now.

>>59548322
it would have been days with hillary.

she was selling the country off before obombas 2nd term.

I wanted Rand for pres

>>59552219
Aye, this is what I'm interested in too.

Would be neat if I could watch Amazon Prime as if I were from Britain. Now I see nothing but Grand Tour in there.

>>59554140
.05$ has been deposited into your account

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>>59554334
OUT MY WAY

>>59547650
what happened?

Easy solution: Run a tor exit node from your house and your ISP will have no fucking idea which traffic is yours.

>>59547650 VPS with Shadowsocks

>>59554368
ISPs are now legally allowed to MITM you.

>>59548180
This

>>59548322
Idiot.

>>59554424
are they obliged to eavesdrop though?

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>go to another country in Latin America, Asia or to Russia
>put a Raspberry Pi, hidden, in a public WiFi area
>use it as a VPN from home

This is the only sane solution.

>>59547650
>>59548594

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBHfXPqbgI

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What about spoofing the connection data to ISP? Like I put a script which is wgetting some thousand related sites on my gateway every minute? This data will have no value to sell and will cease ISP storage.

>>59554675
Sane solutions require insane dedication these days.

>>59547650
Hahahaha this fucking guy thinks a vpn will help.
You should have given a fuck when we were yelling and throwing a fit. Instead you responded with "le tin foil hat" meme.
Get rekt.

>>59549767
>facebook/google/apple/microsoft, and dems in general aren't establishment
That gurl on your pic is smarter than you.

>>59555168
Neither of those is true. It will not cease, you will simply receive a letter recommend you cease and desist. As far as analysing the data goes, it's pretty easy to determine true browsing from fake calls.
It can be done, but are you prepared to actually write a program? Will you actually follow up and make sure it's doing what you think it is? How will you know it's tricking them.
Hmmm

>>59548183
How is that working out for you? I've been considering getting Protonmail+ literally just for ProtonVPN (and the small advantages that + offers otherwise). Is it worth the 48/year or 5/month?

>>59548428
stop making it about race you stupid nigger

>>59555694
no u

>>59548553
Nixon was a saint compared to Obama.

>>59555682
It was worth it for me since I use my own domain. The VPN seems pretty decent so far, although it's still in beta, hence why it's free for users like me.

>>59548553
>Most corrupt President since Nixon
but anon
reagan.

>>59556097
OK, thanks!

>>59556137
I think he's beat all of them by now.

>>59548428
come back to me when someone who wears overalls most of the year is running for office.
All politicians are old rich white people, and those who aren't technically white still act white.

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>>59554140
>we can't let the president get the nuclear codes

It should not be possible to become this stupid

>>59556223
How does one "act white"? Seems you're confusing class and race.