I got a spare Asus eeePC and I'm thinking of installing Debian or something there. Should I go full meme and put Openbox on it?

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any more cool scripts like git.io/hotcoffee?

>>59516087
curl -L git.io/{burger,coffee,pancakes,pizzza,pizzzza,poptart,rice,taco,unix,vburger,waffles}

>>59516103
nice

>>59516087
curl wttr.in

>>59515900
I don't think we need that `News` section.

The pasta is primarily intended for newfriends and I don't think they'll be interested in news about something they know nothing about.
Actually, I don't think anyone's ever clicked on any of those news links, including me.

It's redundant and makes the pasta more confusing that it ought to be.

Good thread.

>>59516144
If this is the weather one, it's actually useful.

>>59516191
I have clicked on most of them, if not directly from here.
Let me rephrase that... I have visited almost every site in the OP, not necessarily by following the links in a /fglt/ thread.

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How do I make a swap file (as opposed to a swap partition) on GNU/Linux and use it?

This picture of rms is licensed under a Creative Commons Noderivs Nocommercial license version 3.0 or later.

How do i safely remove systemd off my arch without breaking anything?

If anyone here have successfully removed systemd on a running arch please help me do so.

>>59518720
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/swap#Swap_file

>>59518819
Thank you.

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>>59516103
kek;d

>>59518814
you can't. install gentoo instead. yes, really.

>>59518814
Is there something wrong with systemd?

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First for using Arch users as beta testers. How does it feel to be beta testers Arch plebs?

>>59518814
Good job making basically all of your packages not work properly.
Install gentoo, literally.

>>59518903
>>59519560
>"""install gentoo"""
literally rebbit trying to fit in

>>59519612
i want 4chan to leave

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>>59519612
reverse psychology I see. time for you to go back.

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Which distro is the least buggy, so that I can use it as my daily driver with KDE as desktop?

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>>59519539
Feels good man.

How does it feel to use a rolling distro with a bunch of old outdated software?

Thread went from this >>59517626
to this >>59519612 >>59519654

>>59520043
Debian Jessie is as stable as it gets.

>>59520043
Arch

>>59520139
It's a little too old for me. I've used it in the past and had issues getting newer software on it.

>>59520169
OpenSuse Leap

>>59520196
How bad is Yast? I have heard a lot of bad thing about it, but never used it. How does it compare to apt?

>>59520226
You don't have to use YaST
For package management you can use zypper from console, here's commands comparison:
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=package-management

And for settings changes you obv. can use config editing
And whether it's bad or not - idk, never used it much myself

>>59520113
>~30 days old
Still newer than every other distro and just about long enough for you guys on Arch to weed out the fuckups so we don't have to deal with them

>>59518903
>>59519338
Fuck this. I'm installing gentoo after exporting all my profiles/bookmarks.

Any tips how to make my core 2 duo toaster laptop with 80GB space install faster? (not planning on main-ing on newer botnets)

Scenario: If I install firefox from src will it fill the whole drive? Do I need more drive space or it's already enough?

I curently use Arch Linux, could someone give me the run down on how gentoo is different and what the advantages/disadvantages of it are?

>>59520377
>firefox
>Estimated disk space required: 4.7 GB
That's from BLFS book. But it should be about right for gentoo as well.

>install faster
I think all you can do for that is set MAKEOPTS and not use -O3 since I think it takes longer to compile with O3 optimization. But maybe some gentoo pros will offer some advice here

>>59520420
USE flags
and no systemd

probably also more stability too, but who knows

>>59520420
When you install packages with pacman, you're actually downloading precompiled binary packages, and sometimes some scripts to run before/after copying those binaries to their install directories.
With Gentoo, this is different. You download the source, and compile it on your machine and then install it.

>>59520441
It'll run a lot slower without -O3 though. I've tested this on some of my own C programs.

>>59520043
openSUSE pays the more attention to making KDE work great than anyone else.

>>59520043
Kubuntu.

>>59520043
Manjaro or KDE neon are as stable as it gets

tfw linux these days has finally become a viable alternative. 2 years ago I had a buggy as shit user experience. Hope it's gonna last this time. I don't wanna go back to the botnet and make them find out about my pizzeria la frommage and loli hentais D:

Using Ubanto Cinnamon atm~

How do I install flash to my Pale Moon browser?

>>59520872
go to www.lemonparty.org

>>59520043
I suggest SUSE because of firefox with kde file picker but you should try KaOS

although KaOS's repo is limited to 64-bit the distro offers KDE and Kwin_wayland that just werks (no xorg)

>>59520888
goatse.info

>>59520835
GNU/Linux*

>>59521199
No

>>59521199
What if I use a distro without GNU?

>>59521232
GNo

>>59521249
It's not a GNU/Linux system.

>>59520835
And much more viable than the Ubuntu I used 8-9 years ago.

IMHO, the biggest step-up from the Linux experience of the past and current Linux is that you can create a really seamless setup now.

Even as an Arch user who pacman Syu's fairly often, it's a frequent event for me to forget that I'm using Linux -- specifically, that I'm "stuck" with Linux's "limited capabilities". Things are so nice that I honestly haven't booted my Windows partition in like a year.

Compared to the much buggier Linux of the past, desktop Linux has really stepped up its game. Sadly, we're past the point where "the year of desktop Linux" will ever come to pass, but it's nice that we're still reaping the benefits of all that hype.

>>59521282
cool, just Linux then

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>>59521289
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59521289
I'm happy as long as my (now old, but back then new and fresh) hardware doesnt make X crash until Wayland's coming around. Fuck was that terrible. Every 10 Minutes shit'd restart, because LOLAMD. I've got a Nvidia card now and it's running alright.

Is it a bad sign when a raspberry pi 3 has both more powerful and more ganooslashleenux compatible hardware than my current laptop? Because of this, I began toying with the idea of building a laptop from a pi or similar hardware.

If I were to build a crappy laptop (craptop) using an SBC, which one should I choose that would fit the goal of open-source from top to bottom, software and hardware? Does such a thing exist?

>>59521391
>If I were to build a crappy laptop (craptop) using an SBC, which one should I choose that would fit the goal of open-source from top to bottom, software and hardware? Does such a thing exist?

Buy a T60 and libreboot it yourself

>>59520835
careful now, cinnamon is dangerous now that they impemented cinnamon experience(tm) analytics
>Ubanto
I hope that's not Unity Ubuntu with cinnamon.

I recommend Arch Revenge.

>>59520888
this. listen to the trips

>>59521437
u wot m9?

>>59521459
install smgl

>>59521475
>not using void linux

baka

>>59521540
pick any and then follow arch wiki for instructions

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>>59521540
Ubuntu server mini. That way you can maintain participation in the botnet no matter which one you choose from your UEFI botnetboot

install konqueror

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>>59520888
Hey, that's just what I needed! Thanks!

How do I get wifi from Gentoo minimal install cd? It's just a ThinkPad with Intel wireless.

>>59521485
maybe if they add fde to the install options and stop trying to achieve the 1337 status arch has i'll switch

When are musl and clang finally going to become usable compared to glibc and gcc? I long for the day when you fags literally can't justify calling it gahnoo any more.

>>59521764
childish

>>59521764
The day when faggots like you quit bitching and start contributing to those projects.

>>59521540
revenge

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gentoo or funtoo and why?

>>59521812
funtoo is just a fork of gentoo mostly known because it uses git for repos, which gentoo bizarrely didn't use. That is, until a few years ago, when gentoo switched to git. Barely any difference now, and gentoo has more users. I'd go with gentoo because the developers are probably more competent.

>>59521783
>>59521798
stay mad stallcucks

what's the difference between control c and control z to kill a program from a terminal? it seems like quite often control c doesn't do much if the program is truly frozen, but control z instantly kills it 100% of the time.

>>59522325
ctrl-c = sigint
ctrl-z = sigstop

the latter cannot be intercepted by the running process

What Distro has
>an installer
>lightweight
>doesn't take long to install

I have a laptop that overheats if used too long (especially with CPU intensive programs) so compiling Gentoo is out of the question, otherwise I'd go with that. Too poor to afford a new laptop.

>>59522325
>>59522400
also note that ctrl-z doesn't 'kill' the process but suspend it.

>>59515900
i have arch linux on my laptop.
I'm very pleased with it (rolling release, yaourt, pacman is pretty neat, learning linux by using it!)
Really, nothing to complain about.
But I'm thinking about a change...
Mainly because: enough learning how to setup a samba, ssh (or something) server. Should focus on being productive.

Should I install ubuntu or something else?
I just want to work and forget config files for a while.

Guide me to productivity /g/entelmens.

>>59520043
KDE Neon or Void

>>59522325
Read

man kill

, there's a list of all signals. ^C is sigint, which interrups a program, ^Z is sigtstp, which just stops a program. You can send these signals directly using the kill command or any other program which understand these signals. You can also send the signal number, for example kill sigint <id> is the same as kill 2 <id>. To terminate a program, you use sigterm (15) and to actually KILL a program, you use sigkill (9). Don't overuse the sigkill signal, since this signal can't be blocked (means that the program which recieves this signal, can't free memory, save states, etc). Also read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_control_%28Unix%29#Implementation

>>59522676
Since you're familiar with pacman now, you could switch to Manjaro.

>>59522676
Install tumbleweed.

>>59522404
Debian

>>59522404
>I have a laptop that overheats if used too long
Clean it. Fix your fan. Solve the problem.

>>59522821
Thats a gold hat, cool cat!

anyone here experienced with wine?
trying to run a game and getting these errors
any ideas how i can fix them?

fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33d384,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33d474,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:dxgi:DXGID3D10CreateDevice Ignoring flags 0x1.
fixme:dxgi:dxgi_check_feature_level_support Ignoring adapter type.
fixme:dxgi:dxgi_device_init Ignoring adapter type.
fixme:d3d11:device_parent_create_swapchain_texture device_parent 0x5662f004, container_parent 0x5662eca8, wined3d_desc 0x33d4c4, texture flags 0, wined3d_texture 0x566511a0 partial stub!
fixme:d3d11:device_parent_create_swapchain_texture Implement DXGI<->wined3d usage conversion.
fixme:iphlpapi:CancelIPChangeNotify (overlapped 0x4fdc4070): stub

>>59522838
https://appdb.winehq.org/

>>59522826
Going to do this to extend its life a bit. It's around 9 years old now and was a cheap laptop to start with.

>>59522821
Was thinking of doing that, but wasn't sure if it would be too CPU intensive or not, thanks.

>>59522889
it runs according to playonlinux
version on appdb of winehq is outdated

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>>59522889
ehhhhh?

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>Still using shitty GPL licensed software
>Not using BSD licensed software

>>59522999
I'm sorry, but I don't have a cuckold fetish.

>>59522999
somehow sad watching bsd and gnu people fighting each other, I mean, what's the point
both projects worked very closely in the beginning, bsd wouldn't be free without rms and gnu got some help from bsd people
how comes that today people hate each others?

I really like the idea of Gentoo but it just takes too long to do anything on it. What's a similar distro that is mostly binary? I've been considering slack, how is it? Is it fsf approved?

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How can I become more of a UNIX Wizard /g/?
I'm using my mouse less and less, and logging into X less and less as well.

Considering buying a 4chan pass so I can post with lynx.

>>59523187
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html

>>59523236
>Is there any reason not to use Transmission?
'cause aria2c exists.

> In 1999, Slackware saw its version jump from 4 to 7. Slackware version numbers were lagging behind other distributions, and this led many users to believe it was out of date even though the bundled software versions were similar. Volkerding made the decision to bump the version as amarketingeffort to show that Slackware was as up-to-date as other Linux distributions, many of which had release numbers of 6 at the time. He chose 7 estimating that most other distributions would soon be at this release number.

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>windows fucks up my system time on Linux every time I boot into it

>>59523630
The reverse happens to me. Windows keeps being wrong by an hour, and it always reverts when I fix it. I just stopped caring because I barely use windows.

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>>59523630
>>59523588
GNU/Linux*

>>59523630
nice pepe, saved it from reddit?

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>>59523236
I use transmission-gtk nowadays though deluge used to be my first choice but deluge needs a fuckton (23) of dependencies while transmission-gtk doesn't need any. I've grown accustomed to transmission. There is no real benefit to using anything else.

>>59523668
No fuck off with your bullshit posts.

>>59523688
what happens when you hit the eject button?

I'm installing Gentoo on an old 1.6ghz dual core. I just did emerge --newuse --something @world and it's still going after five hours. Is this normal? When the initial install has finished, am I going to have to spend this long waiting? If I want to install a small program, how long will it take? I'm not really enjoying this waiting and I just realised that there actually aren't any benefits to USE flags (for me anyway). I feel like I got memed- I really like openrc though.

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>>59523698
The window rolls up

>>59520043
debian testing if jessie is too old for you

>>59523713
:D

>>59523713
brb installing manjaro

>using the arch botnet

lmaoing @ u

slackware master race

>not using the same distro linus uses

retards.

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>trusting a finn

>>59524129
>caring about linus

>>59524150
>>59524180
this
fedora is a redhat botnet

>>59524129
he's using it because it's the only distro he was able to install on his macbook

>>59524110
explain slackware
I'm a bit confused by gentoo, and compiling my entire system isn't fun, but I don't mind compiling foreign packages. Currently using arch and dislike systemd. What's it like?

>>59524196
Much more simple. You don't get a trillion of dependencies in your packages. They all come in a big one. Like: "Here's python" "Here's transmission" "Here's gcc". And it just werks.

>>59524110
I installed slack once. I liked the ncurses installer because it didn't assume you were a retard like fedora, opensuse, debian and ubuntu, and it wasn't cli only for no reason like arch. Then I realised what i was in for when I found out it didn't have multilib at all by default, and the package management situation seems really complicated. Should I give it another chance?

>>59524223
if i did give slack another shot, what should I install to have a working system and no dependency hell, but also no useless packages (it installs a lot of stuff I don't want in the standard installation.) ? it was something like 10gb, while arch was only 2 last time I tried it. also, would you mind explaining how to go about package management?

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I have few questions about appimage...

1. Can you have different versions of the same application?
2. Where do the settings get saved?
3. Is there chrome/chromium appimage available?

I'm gonna dualboot Windows and Arch.

Does anyone have any guides to follow? I've never dual booted and am nervous

>>59524596
Why arch if it's your first time?
Try mint or ubuntu.

>>59524653
Is Arch a ballache first time?

>>59524660
Yes, for the uninitiated.
Try either Mint/Ubuntu+flavors/Fedora/OpenSUSE/Manjaro/Solus

>>59524245
Install bare minimum package you can think of along with their dependencies (you can see their respective homepage to see what their dependencies are).
Use ldd to discover missing dependencies and figure out what packages that contains the SO files and install that package to solve missing dependencies.

>>59524596
Install Windows first and then Arch.
Setting up your boot manager (Syslinux is a good choice).

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>Richard Stallman - "Ethical Principles for Service-Oriented Computing" (Potsdam, Germany)

>Richard Stallman will be speaking at the 12th annual symposium on Future Trends in Service-Oriented Computing (2017-04-26–28).

>His speech will be in English, without any translation. It will be nontechnical, admission is gratis, and the public is encouraged to attend.

http://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20170428-potsdam

can someone explain to me the use of tmux/screen? it basically just saves sessions, right? why would one use this?

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>>59524741
>The last time Richard Stallman visited my country was 2008
>I will probably never see him in person

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When I type on Epiphany the first key I press while holding shift doesn't appear. Also when I press the shift key to
It's the same problem this guy had https://discourse.trueos.org/t/shift-key-in-epiphany/914
but he didn't explain how he fixed it. :(
Can anyone help?

>>59524789
He's always traveling around. Just make sure to subscribe to the rss so you don't miss an event near you.

Can anyone recommend a good program for making pixelart sprites?

https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/ci543-nano-1
>Miscellaneous
>Supported OS
>Windows 10, 8.1 (32/64-bit)
That means no linux for me because no drivers?

why aren't you contributing to the kernel?

>get shithub account
>fix a typo
>call yourself linux developer on resume

>>59524964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAaoh49yf5A

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>>59525255

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Which Mint better: KDE or Xfce?
*newfag*

>>59525283
is*

>>59525283
>*newfag*
KDE.

>>59525283
Why Mint? If it isn't already too late, just get a flavor of Ubuntu. It's basically the same distro but higher quality under the hood.

>>59525330
I heard that it's for noobs and very simply idk.

I can't read media files on my external hard drive. I can cd to the files just fine on the command line, but navigating to them in the GUI gives some vague "path not found" error
(I'm using kodi on a raspberry pi)

the same media files copied onto the internal hd work fine. It's not permissions, what other weird mounting voodoo should I try?

Heads up, I am an idiot.

>>59516103
wew

>>59523630
>>59523649
it's because windows sets the RTC to local time because it's a special snowflake. everything else, including linux, sets the RTC to universal time

If I download Linux like second OS, will I see the Windows files on Linux?

>>59525561
Yes.

>>59525561
Yes.
Assuming you've installed the proper package, which usually comes with very sane distro.

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>>59525561
Pardon me for one moment. What you are calling Linux, is in actuality, GNU/Linux, or as I have nicknamed it, GNU plus Linux. Linux isn't an operating system by itself, but it is just another part of the GNU system, which has been extended in functionality via various GNU components (including GNU's shell utilities and corelibs) which only then fit the definition of a complete operating system as outlined by POSIX.

There are many people today who are running the GNU operating system without even being aware of it. Through a strange turn of events, a misnomer has emerged where people refer to a widely used version of the GNU system as "Linux", unaware that the proper name for the system they run is the GNU operating system.

Now while they are in fact using Linux, it is only one component of the system that they run. Linux is used as the kernel: the part of an operating system which distributes a machine's resources to other programs which request them. While this functionality is essential for the successful functioning of a system, it cannot function on its own, it needs an operating system within which it can carry out its functions. Linux is commonly paired with the GNU operating system: the entirety of the system is GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every single "Linux Distribution" is actually a distribution of GNU/Linux.

>>59525602
hah, is it one of the "Linux users" meme?

Is there a way to rank user-added packages by the last time they were invoked? I want to remove the old trash that I don't use

>>59525634
You just got interjected for not using the words Linux and GNU/Linux properly.
It's actually pretty simple. Just ask yourself: does this have to do with just the kernel, or the OS as a whole? If it's the latter, say GNU/Linux or (at your option) GNU plus Linux.

>>59524996
>>59525561
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59525634
It's a quote from our Saint <https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.en.html>, shortened by Anon.

>>59525701
Saint iGNUcius will bless your computer but only if you use 100% free software.

What is the best distro to carry around on my zip disquette?

>>59526223
Source Mage

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Is there some free as in freedom minimalistic team viewer-type thing?

>>59525385
Are there spaces or other weird characters somewhere in the file name?

>>59526679
*or anywhere else in the path to the files

>>59526679

Nope, '/media/WD/videos/*'

anything in there becomes unreadable in the GUI. It use to work fine. I'm not sure what changed. I know I probably changed something, but I can't recall what.

>>59526566
there are a few ultra-minimal VNC solutions if those are OK with you.

>>59524996
"supported OS" can mean "OS we can provide you support for". It doesn't mean it won't run windows 7, BSDs or gahnoo+linux, they just cannot provide you tech support with using those systems.

How well does Ubuntu linux utilize the system specs? Windows has a lot of features such as prefetch, superfetch etc.

>>59526873
do they require port forwarding?

>>59515961
I think you should just try it. It's really easy to change if you dont like it.

so i install .deb file with debtap but after installing i cant find app.
what is problem?

>>59527510
Install the package made for your distro.

>>59527529
there is only .deb version anon

>>59527535
Install Debian.

>>59527541
my laptop aint server nigga

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>>59527579
Debian is for everything. It is called "the universal operating system" for a reason.

>>59527760
RARE

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how to remove windows from a dualboot?

how much ubuntu do I need to remove to be a debian user?

>>59527897
Don't brick your system. Do a fresh install instead.

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>>59527849
Delete windows partitions and update grub.

>>59527816
OC my friend.

Hot off the press.

>>59515961
I've got an Acer Aspire One with an Atom n450 and 1gb ram. Arch + i3 makes it very usable. The only issues Ive run into are with heavy websites (incl. Facebook), and YouTube at resolutions higher than 240p.
Tiling is a blessing will such little screen real estate.
Totally worth the $20 I paid for it.

>>59523735
I'm actually on testing right now. It is just too buggy, but you are right by it being new enough. I am a big fan of apt, but I am looking for something with a low rate of bugs. Honestly the biggest differences I see in distributions is release cycle. I just want to find one with a sane release cycle that is oriented towards desktop users.

Is it okay to blank out the password for the login keyring if you are already encrypting your whole drive?

>>59528063
How to install Windows without it overriding grub?

>>59528549
That would be a step backwards.

>>59528549
Not possible.

>>59528549
Friends don't let friends use Windows.

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When i try to run redshift-gtk i get the following error

Should I install *buntu 16.04 or .10 when 17.04 is right there?

>>59528821
install le windows

>>59528864
Thanks I was looking exactly for that kind of advice thank you sir

>>59528783
It basically tells you what went wrong. There's something in the css file GTK doesn't like. Either ignore it or try to fix it.

>>59528821
I'd go with dot releases and always upgrade.

Sorry, but there is no IDE on Linux which is as good as Visual Studio. As a professional programmer, I need professional tools to work with.

>>59528783
That's normal debug info. Run

yourcommand &>/dev/null

to not display any debug info. It will still tie up your terminal though. Try launching it with whatever menus you have or dmenu.

>>59528821
16.04 is lts version
16.10 and 17.04 not.
id just get 16.10 and upgraqde to 17.04 when it gets released

>ubuntu 17.04 is called Zesty Zapus
What will 17.10 be called? do they just start with a again?

>>59528976
wanking walrus

>>59528976
cock carousel

>>59528976
angry anita

>>59528976
anal assertion

What happens if a process requires over 100% of physical RAM? Are parts of that process delegated to swap or will it simply be killed even if there swap space availabe?

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>>59529027
kek

>>59529112
also: any advantages/disadvantages to using a swap file over a swap partition?

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>>59529112
Swap

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>>59529149

>>59529176
>It's mainly useful when you temporarily need more virtual memory, rather than as a permanent fixture
So basically the only use for swap space these days?

>>59529225
It's useful for sleeping.

>>59524964
Aseprite
Its free if you compile it

>>59529149
dis: huge ass file eating your data partition and giving it extra load
adv: you can create a smaller or bigger one depending on your needs, you can create one on a non-linux partition (sometimes useful in live systems)

>>59529176
Thanks, I just needed it for one process on my server. Should I swapoff the file now that I don't need it again (for now)?

what's are some useful bash scripts you've written /fglt/?

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i-is this the slackware thread?

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Huh, so thus is the power of Linux

>>59529509
We golfed this amazing ruler some threads ago.

for n in $(seq `tput cols`);{ x=-;((n%5))||x=+;((n%10))||x=\|;echo -n $x;}

>>59529529
GNU/Linux*

>>59529529
Kubuntu is awful, use KDE Neon. It's still Ubuntu.

>>59528158
I don't like i3 because I'm a babyducked brainlet and I don't want something that far from a conventional desktop. Openbox is a lot closer to what I want. Is the optimal method to get it doing a minimal netinstall of Debian or whatever other distro? In theory I could install Debian LXDE and then remove the DE but it seems a lot less smooth.

>>59529509

==> ffaudioc.sh <==
#!/bin/sh -e

if [ $# -eq 3 ]
then
    ffmpeg -i "$1" -map 0:$2 -c:a libvorbis -q 0 "$3.ogg"
else
    echo "usage: $(basename "$0") FILE OFFSET NAME" >&2
    false
fi
==> ffls.sh <==
#!/bin/sh -e

if [ $# -eq 1 ]
then
    ffprobe "$1" |& grep Stream
else
    echo "usage: $(basename "$0") FILE" >&2
    false
fi
==> ffmkvc.sh <==
#!/bin/sh -e

if [ $# -eq 1 ]
then
    ffmpeg -y -i "$1" -map 0 -vf scale=720:-2 \
           -c:v libx264 -b:v 400k -preset veryslow -pass 1 \
           -an \
           -sn \
           -f mp4 /dev/null
    ffmpeg -i "$1" -map 0 -vf scale=720:-2 \
           -c:v libx264 -b:v 400k -preset veryslow -pass 2 \
           -c:a libvorbis -q 0 \
           -c:s srt \
           "$(basename "$1" .mkv)-LowDefMkv.mkv"
else
    echo "usage: $(basename "$0") FILE" >&2
    false
fi
==> ffwebm.sh <==
#!/bin/sh -e

if [ $# -eq 6 ]
then
    ffmpeg -y -ss $2 -i "$1" -vf scale=-2:$4 -an -sn -c:v libvpx -threads 4 -quality best -b:v $5k -pass 1 -f webm -t $3 /dev/null
    ffmpeg    -ss $2 -i "$1" -vf scale=-2:$4 -an -sn -c:v libvpx -threads 4 -quality best -b:v $5k -pass 2         -t $3 "$6-$4p-$5k-$2-$3.webm"
else
    echo "usage: $(basename "$0") FILE START LENGTH RESOLUTION BITRATE NAME" >&2
    false
fi
==> pacclean.sh <==
#!/bin/sh -ex

if [ -n "$(pacman -Qdqtt)" ]
then
    pacman -Rncs $(pacman -Qdqtt)
fi
==> parano.sh <==
#!/bin/sh -ex

exe="$(basename "$0")"

if [ -n "$2" ]
then
    echo "$exe [ENTRY]" >&2
    false
elif [ -n "$1" ]
then
    dir="$1"
else
    dir="$(basename "$(pwd)")"
    cd ..
fi

BASENAME="$(basename "$dir")"
DIRNAME="$(dirname "$dir")"
ARCHIVE="$DIRNAME/$BASENAME-$(date -u '+%Y%m%d-%H%M%S'.tar.gz)"
tar czf "$ARCHIVE" "$dir"

>>59529529
Oh god, it's installing over my windows partition now, and i forgot to backup my 4chan folder.

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What font do I need to display zalgo properly!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I have a Win/Mac around so can easily copy the font I need if it's not readily available.

HALP!

>>59530015
NotoSansCJKjp is nice I think

>>59520226
it's quite good in reverse

>>59520273
Thx

>>59520377
Compile using another machine

I'm trying to install Debian without a DE. After doing the installation the damm thing freezes on a line that says something like "clean; x/y number of files, x/y number of blocks", if I reinstall with a DE this issue goes away.

What could be causing this?

You have ten seconds to explain why you aren't using the true successor to Unix. (Slack)

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>>59529529
Considering that you aren't even capable of taking a screenshot it's probably your fault dumbass.

>>59529529

>>59530630
this
Stick to your phone amigo

Biggest memes that n00bs begin to believe that aren't actually true.

1. everyone disables selinux
2. systemd is unnecessary and/or is poorly implemented.
3. arch and gentoo are only useful for learning. Kernel developers don't waste their time using them, most of them use fedora/ubuntu/suse.
4. btrfs will be the dominant linux filesystem in 4-5 years.
5. docker and/or containerization in general is insecure and a fad.

In reality:

1. selinux is incredibly powerful. Policy is a pain to write, but if you use a targeted policy instead of strict, you will probably not hit any issues.
2. systemd solves a lot of complicated problems and is not as heavy as people make it out to be. The only valid criticism of systemd is that it created a bit of a monoculture and you might hit bugs in userspace programs because 95% of users are on systemd. But this same scenario exists for glibc, too, and we don't see such a dramatic temper tantrum from the community.
3. kernel developers do use arch linux and gentoo.
4. btrfs is all but abandoned by RH.
5. docker represents an organized way to implement something close to a chroot. Most large companies are invested in the idea. It is undoubtedly here to stay.

>>59530650
>>59530630

you guys expect him to take a screenshot in an installer? What makes you all think it is even possible for him to do that? Entirely possible, even probable, that screenshot utilities do not exist on that particular livecd.

>>59530704
You're confusing this thread with red hat forums.

>>59530738
It's a Kubuntu live cd it's a full setup including Ksnapshot and Firefox.

>>59530704
I disagree with a few points.

1. Selinux was developed by the NSA, so forgive the community for being suspicious of it. It is good though.
2. There is not much wrong with systemd technically. My problem is it's huge and monolithic, as well as constantly evolving, and therefore impossible to audit for bugs etc. I also don't trust red hat with a core component of my system.
3. Installing arch and Gentoo teaches you arch and Gentoo. Only a small amount of relevant knowledge applies to all distros. Use rhel if you want to learn rhel, otherwise use Linux from Scratch.
4. It will be. It's infinitely superior to ext4, which is largely a stopgap until something better. Btrfs has hardly any problems on kernels since 4 (beyond that RAID debacle). Development has definitely not been abandoned. I can see it or xfs overtaking ext4 for most distros within 5 years.
5. does anyone disagree with this? It's obvious

>>59530704
*GNU/Linux

>>59520139
I think, with the degree to which the linux kernel is making rapid improvements and supporting more and more hardware, we should stop calling old kernels stable (rock solid base and so on). Yes, new kernels get bugs (which get fixed faster than every 5 years, Debian). If you can't use the machine with an LTS kernel, however, then its the opposite of stable. It is nonfunctional.

>>59530928

>>59530928

>>59530928
>>59530972
>>59530984

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watchdog did not stop!
watchdog did not stop!

>>59531052
>file.png

> 1. Selinux was developed by the NSA, so forgive the community for being
> suspicious of it. It is good though.
Nobody affiliated with the NSA is involved in selinux policy creation. It's
completely unreasonable to be suspicious of SELinux.

> 2. There is not much wrong with systemd technically.
> I also don't trust red hat with a core component of my system.
Bad news for you: They're the second largest kernel contributor besides Intel.
You already trust your system to RH entirely.

> 3. Installing arch and Gentoo teaches you arch and Gentoo. Only a small amount
> of relevant knowledge applies to all distros. Use rhel if you want to learn
> rhel, otherwise use Linux from Scratch.
That's not a response to what I argued for. I said that it is a meme that Arch
and Gentoo are meme distributions that are not seriously used, and I argued
that this is not the case. The current maintainer of the stable kernel uses
gentoo and is a gentoo developer.

> 4. It will be. It's infinitely superior to ext4, which is largely a stopgap
> until something better. Btrfs has hardly any problems on kernels since 4
> (beyond that RAID debacle). Development has definitely not been abandoned. I
> can see it or xfs overtaking ext4 for most distros within 5 years.
Not even taking the bait about their severe RAID issues, which you obviously
underplay here, ext4 /severely/ outperforms btrfs in all but the most obscure
benchmarks. You are blind to the performance issues that btrfs has.

Not to mention the design flaws. It is completely unacceptable for a number of
very common use cases, including but not limited to VM filesystem storage and
swap. These aren't features that are yet to be implemented, these are use-cases
that btrfs developers simply aren't interested in solving.

It is true that it is still actively developed, but the signaling coming out of
RH clearly shows that they consider the filesystem dead.

>>59523204
GNU's not UNIX

>>59531405
Of course.
GNU is not UNIX.
LINUX is not UNIX
=> GNU = LINUX

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>>59531441
but you can't hunt sharks

>>59523778

>thinks a distribution has anything to do with looks
Kill yourself.

>>59531483
>>Kill yourself.
Please behave; this is a friendly thread.

>>59530460

It's probably not frozen. Switch to a different TTY.
My guess is that you messed with the display manager and that it's refusing to start and that's why it shows the fsck output as frozen. Check your logs.

Wait does Linux seriously not support hotswapping display cables? Had to switch an HDMI and dual link DVI cable for testing and X sperged out, displaying random images and lines everywhere.

>>59531202
Yeah. I googled 'nervous sweating pepe' right click/copied the image (thumbnail idgaf) and ctrl-v'd in the text field. What's wrong with that?

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>>59515900
x-DD

>>59530704
should I be using docker? how frustration-free does it make porting/migrating and is it itself easy to set up?

Hi, i have a question about grub2 configuration. I need to configure grub to load as default the newest version of linux kernel that is on my computer. I have no idea where to start..

>>59531743
Images is what an imageboard breaths.

>>59532019
grub shouls do this already, if not run update-grub

>>59531480
you cant hunt sharks because sharks are higher on the predator food chain. Its very much like racism.

>>59532121
>higher on the predator food chain
Probably one of the most stupid idea of the bourgeoisie.

>>59531574
I can't even get into another TTY, tried reinstalling same results

>>59532400
Just curious is it a Nvidia GPU? More specifically, 900 or 1000 series? If so, try booting with the monitor plugged into your motherboard, and your GPU disabled in the BIOS. Add nomodeset to kernel parameters in grub. I had a similar problem caused by nouveau. In the end, I had to install proprietary Nvidia drivers, run Nvidia xconfig and then reboot, switching back to my 970.

>>59531052
Why does this always happen? Is it just an old bug?

Sometimes when you update Arch. it downloads something but then nothing is upgraded. What is happening?

>>59532743
Read stdout for informration

>>59532743
>downloads something
The updated package lists?
You're going to be more specific than that.

>>59532743
Are you sure you aren't using # pacman -Sy instead of -Syu?

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>>59532759
>>59532776
>>59532763
Like this. Both pacman and yaourt will say they'r edownloading something while syncing sometimes but it's nothing.

>>59532840
1. Dont use yaourt its cancer and causes problems on its own.
2. Your databases are updated and there is nothing to update,

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Reminder to switch to YYYY-MM-DD and metric units

if you live in Europe, you might also want

LC_PAPER=en_DK.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_DK.UTF-8

for DIN A4 paper and Euro currency

>>59532608
Idk I've seen it happen for 2 years across several distros though.

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yes

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>>59533183
My nigga

What can you guys say about ElementaryOS?

>>59533228
Essentially just Ubuntu Pantheon. If you like Ubuntu and want to use Pantheon it's a better choice than going with another Ubuntu flavor and hacking Pantheon on top of it. Unless Pantheon is in the main repos which I doubt.

>>59533357
Thx

If I were to use Qubes OS, how would I install TLP in a thinkpad? I ask this because i have no clue since I'm not sure if I need to install it in each template or in the dom0 or what else

>>59532573
Yeah it's a 960, can't disable it in the BIOS but plugged another monitor into the mobo. I'm supposed to add nomodeset right before quite right? That did not seem to work

>>59530704
>3. kernel developers do use arch linux and gentoo
Proof?
I know Greg Kroah-Hartman uses Arch but i don't know about any other example.

>>59533704
You need to set default video output to integrated graphics.

>slackware still doesn't have PAM
Why? I can very much understand the lack of systemd and Volkerding's philosophy, but this seems like a strange thing not to include.

>>59533067
>english denmark

le y

>>59520043
manjaro

>do apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
>packages are up to date already

suffering knows no end for me

>>59534178
>apt-get
is your system really up to date?

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>>59534153
> manjaro

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I recently got this working.

How long until I can use NixOS without systemd?

>>59534812
One Million Hours

Everything will not work if you fucked up systemd that's why its bad.

>>59534812
-5 years

pls help
i want to set up a windows dual boot
i wrote the windows image on a usb but my bios sees the usb as diskette drive and when i try to boot from it it says failed
what do i do?

Does anyone know if there's a plugin for deadbeef that implements virtual tags?
By virtual I mean that I can retag a music file without changing it and instead store the new tags in a separate file/db.

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>>59533921

greg posted this on g+ during fosdem 2017, which was at the beginning of February.

You can see in the picture that he's still using gentoo.

> metadata/md5-cache/media-sound

>>59533080

Every LC_ value to my local locale, except for LC_MESSAGES and LANG, which are en_US. I don't know why you'd use anything other than that.

guys, what's a good distro to use?

debian doesnt work on my laptop

Xubuntu 14.04, got 2 monitors, they work in clone mode but I can only see one "default" setting in Settings -> Display. Where I should start troubleshooting?

>>59537164
Everything works fine with liveDVD. So, I'll have to restore settings somehow.

>>59537000
try ubuntu, fedora or whatever with a live CD. If it works, install

Response from systemd critics please https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/4lzxs3/why_did_archlinux_embrace_systemd/d3rhxlc/

i only ever used unix for my school and work laptops but now i want to change completely on my desktop, which has i7 6700k, GTX1080 (ive given up on games already), nvram ssds etc

im thinking of installing debian testing (same as my laptops), would that support or use my hardware?

>>59537798
Two main arguments there:
>Systemd is good because it is easier for both users and distro maintainers in terms of configuration.
I don't care if another init system creates more work for distro maintainers. Arch maintainers specifically are lazy and incompetent- switching to systemd out of sheer convenience, and only maintaining one architecture. It's all about ease for the developers, not users.

>systemd is technically superior to sysvinit
True in many ways. Booting is faster which is largely meaningless to me. But let's stop comparing it to stuff that's fifteen years old. The poster admits that specifically, Arch's init scripts were terrible. OpenRC and runit offer the same features, but are less bloated. This isn't an argument for systemd, but an argument against init scripts. In my experience, slackware's init scripts are still great and not that difficult to configure.

Thoughts on this? It claims to basically be a better, less bloated version of btrfs. http://bcachefs.org

how to install gnu/linux in a way that it can be moved betwen computers?

I just read this article: http://www.aaronbell.com/secret-colours-of-the-commodore-64/
Then I thought is should be easy to reproduce with a shell loop - and it was.

Red-Blue:
freq=1; while :; do sleep $freq ;printf '\e]11;#ff0000\a'; sleep $freq; printf '\e]11;#0000ff\a'; done
Purple:
freq=.001; while :; do sleep $freq ;printf '\e]11;#ff0000\a'; sleep $freq; printf '\e]11;#0000ff\a'; done

Pretty amazing how they hacked their shit together back in the days.

>installing gentoo
>kernel config, confusing as fuck
>basically barely change anything. enable all filesystems. enable some intel stuff/driver stuff I need.
>compile sound as module because someone here mentioned it
did I fuck up? I couldn't be assed to look up every single option, so I mostly went with defaults and the wiki's suggestions. I didn't do any modules except sound.

>>59538604
use a generic kernel, don't compile software with march=native, and ensure fstab is using hardware-agnostic paths

what filesystem should I use? I don't have any RAID, just one ssd and one hard drive. I want good performance, but not at the cost of reliability. Is ext4 the way to go? I was considering btrfs or xfs because some distros like opensuse are defaulting to them now.

Since the scripts posted on 4chan are 50% amazing and 50% harmful, is there a secure way to test a command so one can see what will happen?

>>59539035
do it from a virtual machine (could still theoretically harm you if you do it as root)
create a new user with no privileges and then run it
run it yourself as non sudo (the worst it can do is wipe out /home)

difference between killall and pkill?

>>59539109
pkill by default kills by pattern
killall by default kills by name
however they can be configures to do the same
read the manual pages

>>59539109
one is called killall, one pkill

-> >>59539156

>>59539161
wew

why is this thread so slow lately?
no gahnoo loonix users on /g/?

>>59539234
Spread all over /g/.

t. used to post ITT

Is there a way to reliably remove all amazon software for ubuntu?

>>59540561
yes

>>59540573
without installing gentoo in the process?