>the Linux kernel dudes refused to add AMD's HAL to the

What benefit does this HAL bring?

From I understand it wasn't just that it was ugly code, it's that it fucked up all future updates to the kernel with AMDGPU.

So now it's both sides trying to point the finger when both sides are equally at fault.

>>59487225
The entire linux philosophy is flawed so you'd have to be autistic to keep sticking to it after so many failed attempts.

>>59487320
Works on my machine.

>>59487292

Hardware Abstraction Layer.

Basically an easy way for your computer to pick up on what hardware is being used.

It's actually a perfectly rational thing to do. Kernel devs have this policy so that there's one solution that everyone can understand. If they allowed everyone to make their own implementation of every little thing the kernel would be a fucking disgusting abomination.

>>59487225
https://github.com/M-Bab/linux-kernel-amdgpu-binaries

the only autistic thing is to not just simply build it yourself with what you want in it

AMD is fucking garbage

>>59487225
That code is expected to be maintained for a long time and by a lot of people, you simply can't have badly written code.
the fact that you don't know about this means you should go back to daycare board >>>/v/

>>59487339
I know what it is, I was asking about AMDs thing specifically. Why not udev?

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>>59487360
Isn't it already an abomination, or close to?

>>59487399
the whole hal story at the moment is that amd got its DC/HAL which provides hdmi audio in a bad management situation

they wanted to push to kernel with it after doing a RFC round in which they ignored comments and just kept going without complying with kernel no hal rule so now they have a working system that isnt compatible with the development decisions of the kernel community and need to redo it.

>>59487225
I want to lick Iori's asshole and when it gets sloppy I want to pound it like there's no tomorrow

>>59487471
They can still publish their kernel modules, just linux users will have to download it from the amd site and install it, it can't be bundled into the kernel itself

>>59487471
So aren't the AMD developers the autistic ones in this case? They knew the stance before they wrote it.

>NO IM RIGHT, YOURE WRONG
>REEEEEEE

>>59487309
They were warned almost a year in advance that if they tried to submit it with the HAL still in there, it would be rejected. AMD managers decided to try anyways because it was cheaper than rewriting the whole driver

>>59487225
>the Chevy engine dudes refused to use Ford's turbo inline 4 because muh beautiful Camaro

You have no idea how anything actually works.

At least AMDGPU is slowly improving, I'd like to finally ditch this 970 with a 480, the 480 refresh, or maybe even full retard with Vega.

>>59487595
The devs probably knew this would happen but the executives probably told them to do it anyway.

>>59487431
Nah, no one knows how Windows works. The spaghetti is so bad that it's a miracle it's still floating around.
>yfw Windows will eventually merge the Linux kernel into their shitty OS

>>59487595
its pretty much autistic because this has been going on for much longer and said they even made a RFC at which point they where already doing work just to get into the kernel and they kept up with ther own plan instead of going into dialog with the community.

create DC/HAL
ask how to integrate it
work on own HAL implementation to integrate it
get responses telling "your going the wrong way! stop and turn around"
ignore and walk the whole way
ask to be integrated
create shitstorm

and the main reason this is a real story anyways is that people ofcourse want audio support in the kernel(nobody says they dont want HDMI audio support) but now the outlook is somewhere in the 4.13 kernel window.

its weird and everybody knows its because bad communication+bad management and that mostly from amd's site

>>59487702
+++ the main problem for amd is that they want to use the same code for linux and windows as base for the drivers

if anybody wonders why it not "just werks"

>>59487339
>easy
No. Maybe for lazy devs - but no. HAL is something you make when you don't want to do a separate, working driver. So you make a HAL as a compatybility layer between architectures.

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>>59487652
they did, you just have to check a box

>>59487971
WSL doesn't use linux

>>59487225
goddamnit

from the catalog, the baby looks like huge tits

>>59487225
Having read up on this situation in the not-too-recent past, I have to say I agree with the Linux DRM maintainers for this one.

>>59487320
The only reason you say Linux is flawed is because you don't know what the development of Windows looks like.

>>59487383
Intel's run by Jews who love to spy on Goyim. Rather run garbage than Talmudic spyware.