Since Wine failed me (for 100000th time) I'm using windows

>>59481691
>There is any proof of the data MS collects harming any actual user?
You'll have to wait until they build their collection big enough and start releasing usage data...

How much does microsoft pays you, pajeet?

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>>59481691
It's quite buggy, far from 7's stability. I never had a BSoD on 7, had 2 on 10 LTSB 1607 in a day, and it's still spyware.

>>59481691
>Since Wine failed me (for 100000th time) I'm using windows 10 LSTB to play sum cantonese porn games
What problem did you have? did you tried playonlinux? is pretty nice. Also except for the DX10-11 ones most of that kind of games works flawlessly on wine for me but that's just my own experience.

>Why all the hate?
>There is any proof of the data MS collects harming any actual user?
Giving the perfect proof is hard because microsoft doesn't allow the user to check what is being sent, however what is written on their privacy statement is already very shitty by itself. Even if there may not exist hard proof of what info they're collecting they state cleary that they reserve the right to do it. Why including this if they'll not do it? It also says that they don't even anonymize the data, you have an advertisement ID on your windows and microsoft products so there's no guarantee they don't have a record on what you do privately on your computer. I specify privately because it's different google or bing (microsoft) having a record of what you have searched when you explicitly communicate with them than microsoft recording what files you open and what files you have passively (except for cloud services like one drive or dropbox of course). The worst part is that they make clear they'll disclose any data with their partners. Check the TOS by yourself, most of the ugly stuff is hidden under the "learn more" buttons, so make sure to click on them.
https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/

In case someone implies that this doesn't applies to windows at the start it clearly says:
>References to Microsoft products in this statement include Microsoft services, websites, apps, software and devices.

>Sometimes i also need to use use windows at work but even having a Win7 license i don't want to updgrade. I've been thinking about the LTSB. Do you REALLY can disable completely the forced updates? Provide sources please.

>>59482354
*Sorry i didn't meant to greentext the last part.

>>59481691
>Why all the hate?
Freetards don't have anything else to do since their OS has no software.

You can't install some drivers or even access the Microsoft Store.

>>59482524
>You can't even access the Microsoft Store
That's a huge plus

>>59482553
But the drivers, Anon. How will I use my hip Android if my computer won't recognize it?

>>59482524
>access the Microsoft Store.

That's one of the main reasons one would be using LTSB for. That, and (partially) no cortana. You can also get rid of automatic updates (or leave them on, but with no automated restarts). You can do that with any windows 10 version that supports group policy editing, though.

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>>59482440
>Freetards don't have anything else to do since their OS has no software
>since their OS has no software

>>59482639
Which drivers could you not install? When I tried LTSB I could just fine install all my Nexus 4 drivers (USB/transfer, network and adb).

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>>59482440
why so salty? tired to depend on a company that abuses their users? do you feel some kind of shame so you need to tell yourself other operative systems are not good?

>>59482053
I've gotten more than 1000 times the BSODs on 7 than on any LTSB version.

What kind of shit PC do you have? I only got BSODs of USB 3 and CPU fan compatibility issues.

>>59482864
>What kind of shit PC do you have?

The PC is not a problem. I'm using a prebuilt from 2007, paired with a graphics card from 2004 (ati), and everything is working fine (all things considered).

>>59482864
p8z77-deluxe, 3770k, 32GB G.Skill Trident, Intel 530 240GB, Titan (Pascal)

Multiboot Windows 7 Ultimate, LTSB2016 and Debian Jessie. 10 is the only problematic OS, performs worse than 7 as well on most benchmarks.

>>59482917
>2007
Found your problem. I was using a PC from 2004 and trying to put 7 on it and it was laggy, unresponsive, BSODed all the time, etc., so I just put TinyXP on it instead. Your graphics card is too old for 10.

I tried putting 7 on my current PC (Skylake with other shit) and I had to go through so much trouble just to get USB 3.0 working on it. Then, it kept on crashing because of the CPU fan for some reason, even though it never crashed on 8.1 or 10.

>>59482946
>Skylake
I run 7 just fine on a XPS15 with a 6700HQ btw.

I've never had any problems with Windows 10. It runs great and provides me with a fantastic computing experience.

>>59482941
>Titan XP
I thought Russians were supposed to be poor???

>>59482790
I don't need to tell myself Linux is bad. Linux users do that for me.

>>59481691
OP stay away from Windows 10.

They'll collect the number of clicks you do and shit.

Don't want that, do you?

>>59483033
I'm Ukrainian.

>>59483033
It's a Titan, not a fucking Quadro. Chill, fag.

>>59483145
Also this. Quadros are damn expensive.

Since where all here to shit in win10 anyways, what's a good alternative? I've been using win7 since it was in alpha and I will continue to use it till the day they drop support in 2020. But after that? Is 8.1 even close? Can you disable the tablet shilling double desktop?

>>59483168
Windows 10 Enterprise.

>>59483168
>But after that?
7 support will most likely get extended. It already is supported until October 2021 because of WES.

>>59483145
>$1200 MSRP
>"Chill, fag"
That's a shitload to spend on any one PC component.

>>59483258
I got it for free. Well, an agreement actually, in exchange of my services every now and then.

>>59482790
Why so retarded?

>>59483185
God damn I hope so.

>>59481823
Kill yourself, you dumb fucking shit stain?

>>59483258
It sure is a lot, it sure is horrible value for gaming alone, but for me it was pretty much a budget Quadro, so...

>>59483300
The succ?

>>59483417
Har har, some video encoding/editing stuff.

Let me break it down like this: Would you use a program you needed if it was blatantly flagged as spyware and 100% contained adware? WITH regular questionable updates and your settings automatically change? Even though it was widely recommended? Or would you look for an alternative?

>>59482053
There can never be a program to definitely disable all of it. We don't see the source, so it's always possible there's more hidden there. As in the OneDrive ads in the file explorer. They're also always adding new crap like this.

>>59481691
No. Microsoft tells you exactly what they do with the data. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization

Also if anyone who bitches about telemetry in Wiondows 10 uses an Android or iPhone you can ignore them because Google and Apple pull just as much.

>>59483515
>Or would you look for an alternative?
Most people use cell phones, so no?

>>59483602
Indeed

>>59482695
Well, it is true, 99% of desktop ricers are lonix fags since they have nothing to do but rice their meme O.S and bitch here

>>59481691
>you can remove shitty cloud thing and bloat
No you can't, Pajeet.

>Why all the hate?
Because you can't remove the shitty cloud thing and bloat, Pajeet. Also ads in the OS.

>>59482354
>What problem did you have? did you tried playonlinux?
>expecting a pajeet MS shill to reply
>thinking the pajeet MS shill actually tried Linux

Pajeet's just trolling in this thread. Pajeet will never answer your questions properly because Pajeet never could figure out how to install Linux.