>school statistically suspects me of cheating on an exam

>>59410420
Check the privacy policy of the university and if they don't say that they archive deleted emails they are being kept illegally.

But that's what you get for cheating instead of relying on your own intelligence and charisma, faggot.

>>59410420
>Keep evidence of cheating on uni email
I hope you get suspended you retard.

>>59410436
Yes charisma really helps me pass my exams too.

>>59410420
They possibly do have some way to retrieve these emails. I wouldn't worry about it though, going after cheaters is a lot of paperwork for professors and TAs so they only go after people who do it very blatantly.

>>59410436
The way I cheated was pretty impressive in my opinion. I was actually pretty proud of myself until I realized that they could read our emails.

We are watching you. Just wanted to let you sweat before we fail you. It's only a matter of time now.

>>59410459
how did you do it? exactly what faggotry are you proud of?

>>59410472
He plugged in his USB stick to load power points before class and I noticed one of the files was labeled exams. I went to his office hours a few times and he would keep the USB plugged into his laptop on his desk during office hours. I bought a burner cell phone, got his number from the syllabus, and texted him that I was his daughter and that my phone was dead but I was at the main entrance. He left and I copied the drive. Felt like a fucking spy tbqh. Apparently he figured it out though because he booby trapped the last exam

>not just loading your ti calculator up with all the cheat codes

>>59410436
every email system retains deleted emails and even if the mailbox contents was gone the tracking logs could only be removed by someone with administrative rights to the server.

>>59410420
They absolutely have a copy of the deleted emails and more than likely retain them for at least 3 months, the email tracking logs they will keep for years, those will contain the plain text contents of the email along with attachment filenames but not the attachments themselves

>>59410444
checked and kek'd

If you chose to go through school you should make every effort to cheat since absolutely nothing they offer is based in any kind of reality. Tests are 100% bullshit because it's all about remembering it all and regurgitation. Meanwhile in the real world you have weeks to get something done, and can use any resource you want.

>>59410580
i agree. if you get caught you deserve to fail, though

>>59410558
>not the attachments themselves

I labeled the pdf BonerJams08 guess I'm good then. That's a relief.

>>59410541
If you didn't involve his family you could have gotten away with it

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>>59410445
It does though desu. Make friends with your goddamn lecturer and they will grade you better, it's human nature.

>>59410541
goddamn dude. that's like something you'd see in a movie.
also you're a fucking idiot if you didn't at least purposely get a few wrong

>>59410541
>Apparently he figured it out though because he booby trapped the last exam
You cheated on multiple choice, and didn't bother to check in the answers you were using were even close to the truth.

This isn't genius. There's around 10 movies with this plot, and probably 50 show episodes. Fucking lurk moar you underage fuck.

>>59410541
Isn't this impersonation with criminal intent? You impersonated someone with the intent to steal data.

And did you think he wouldn't know? What did you think was going to happen when he got to the entrance and his daughter was nowhere to be found?

>>59410420
>cheating in university
s h i t s k i n

>>59410541
I mean, he could press charges and shit but ok

I would've just shown up to class and paid attention and might've actually learned something instead of becoming some career criminal moron who thinks using his school's email to pass around a stolen exam was a good idea

Hell, as a professor, if I see your stupid fucking mug enough times I can easily smell the bullshit you're cooking if you somehow "ace" my test.

Lemme guess, his "booby" trap was a question that can me solved multiple ways and you dumb fucks just copied the answer key because you were too retarded to pay attention in class when he probably told you this multiple times.

>>59410541
ah shit nigger, you are FUCKED if they find out the details

>>59410601
Maybe I couldn't think of a better way to get him to quickly leave so he'd leave the laptop though

>>59410619
Yeah I feel pretty dumb. I figured there was no way he could prove it so I just aced it.

>>59410622
Maybe but I did it in real life. Also I didn't just memorize the letters he kept the entire test the same but added five questions at the very end that were new. I didn't study so I got all five of those wrong. I was greedy and wanted to keep the A so I didn't change any of the other ones. Still pretty sure he can't prove it off of that tho

>>59410604
Better yet, get to know the TAs since they do most if the heavy lifting

>t. TA

>>59410646
>isn't this impersonation with criminal intent

H-haha just memeing FBI just trying to get a few laughs you know.

Also I figured he would be really confused but wouldn't think to blame me because why would he.

>>59410604
I'm not much of a people person

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>>59410675
>but added five questions at the very end that were new.
>I didn't study so I got all five of those wrong.
>Still pretty sure he can't prove it off of that tho
HAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE FUCKED BOYO!

>>59410541
could of just pulled the fire alarm

>>59410675
LOL! hmm yeah...he scored 100% on the everything but the last five that I just added at the very end. Nope, doesn't seem suspicious at all.

>>59410762
Also a crime. OP's fucked.

>>59410420
>cheats
>gets caught
>receiving punishment
deserved it desu

>>59410541
You're beyond fucked

>>59410765
>>59410733
I get that it's immensely suspicious but unless he has concrete proof I feel like I can argue plausible deniability to some extent. If he gets the emails though I'll be absolutely fucked

>>59410782
No punishment yet bucko

>>59410541
ya know he's gonna put two and two together and the proper authorities are going to know everything about your little stunt. You. Are. Fucked. Better start filling out an application for Walmart.

There's a very real possibility those last 5 questions were easy and he went over them explicitly in class, and you're the *only* person who got all 5 wrong.

>>59410816
I destroyed the burner phone and the flash drive. Fucking hell these emails though. Do you think I could bribe an IT guy?

>>59410838
you'd probably want to speak to the system administrator, and trust me he probably hates guys like you. who knows you might be able to bribe him.

>>59410838
>should I add bribery and obstruction of justice to the list of charges?

You'd just be digging the hole even deeper. Plus he'd almost certainly report it, professional ethics and all.

>>59410838
>fucking up this bad
>wanting to dig the hole deeper
take responsibility for your dumbass actions and cut the losses

>>59410869
>>59410870
Fuck this thread isn't giving me the reassurance I was looking for

>>59410870
>>59410877
well, as it stands the email evidence alone is probably enough to fuck him over hard. he might as well attempt to bribe the sysadmin. I wouldn't attempt without being 1000% sure that your deleted emails are still persisted somewhere.

>>59410541
>Apparently he figured it out though because he booby trapped the last exam
How? You had correct answers for one version and he switched them and then checked for idiots who answered questions from the original exam?

you fell for that? LMAO

you're a fucking retard.

>>59410886
Why would we give you false hope? You fucked up real good, and most likely will get caught.

>>59410912
>>59410675

I used to cheat on exams by saving the cookies and session info so if I fuck up I can just load the save point.

Doubt you can do this nowadays because of ssl sessions and whatnot

>>59410886
Depending on your school's academic dishonesty policy, you may just fail the course and get an academic demerit or equivalent, or they might give you the boot. Depends entirely on their policy.

That is, assuming they don't throw the law at you. Cheating is one thing, but impersonating his daughter and making a copy of his files is illegal. You're probably fucked in that case.

>>59410805
What evidence is in the email?

>>59410420
Cheaters are worms.
I hope you're found out and kicked out of University.

>>59410950
The pdf files no text

>>59410978
Wait you fucking emailed them to yourself from his computer?

Are you kidding me?

>>59410978
...Please don't tell me you emailed them to yourself from his computer.

>>59410838
>Fucking hell these emails though
>clinton.jpg

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>>59410805
>'Aced' all the questions in the multi-choice except for the trap questions, looks very incriminating.
>Trap questions were probably easier than some of the questions you got 'right' adds further suspicion.
>Statistical probability of getting all the trap questions wrong = 0.0009765625 (assuming each question has 4 possible answers 0.25^5)
>Security camera footage of you walking in and out of his office on the day he got a call for his 'daughter'
You better make up a good sob story to get yourself out of this one.

>>59410995
>>59411008
Is that bad? I used incognito mode.

>>59410995
>>59411008
>>59411011
Not to myself I had them on the drive. Emailed them to my buddy which is just as dumb I'm now realizing.

You realize that since you've posted about it on 4chan it will end up in an archive, right? All of the information you've posted, especially the EXACT FILE ATTACHMENT NAME, is searchable and can be used against you

OP, you are beyond fucked. You are so fucked you don't even know how fucked you are. I just hope for your sake that this is a hook thread

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>>59411030
>>59411025

Anon, please don't take this the wrong way but I don't think you're cut out to be playing mission impossible.

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>>59411025
>Is that bad? I used incognito mode.
Is this some elaborate troll.

>>59411025
>>59411030
You're fucked.

Look on the bright side tho, you'll only be kicked out of school. If the prof really wants revenge he can save the evidence until you graduate and have the administration revoke your degree after you've put in all the work.

This is unbelievable.

The amount of stupid you have portrayed comes right out of a comic book.

>>59411039
>>>/r9k/35536478
>>>/r9k/35536515
>>>/r9k/35536547

Looks like it is shame

>>59411101
And here I was thinking of ways to locate OP and email his university

stupid faggot

>>59410805
>I can argue plausible deniability to some extent
No you can't. The chances of you randomly getting only those five ones that weren't stolen wrong is hilariously small. I guess you had trouble in probability and statistics too, huh?

Darwin strikes again

>>59410978
Oh my god you are so fucked. If you're living in America I guarantee your school has all the rights they need to dig through your deleted emails. A kid at my highschool got suspended for sending porn using his school email.
I know the legal agreement for the university I went to briefly basically stated your dorm and anything on your person can be searched (nothing specifying cellphones/laptops as it was before that debacle came about) while on their property without your knowledge or consent. The place I work at has similar conditions.

WHEN you get caught, pray the school don't press charges on you. I had a friend who got into a fight in highschool and hit the other kid with a 2x4 in shop class. A teacher heard about it in passing and went to the administration. Both were pulled into the office and refused to press charges on one another. Regardless, the school pressed charges on both and my friend got assault with battery and some kind of obstruction charge.
Even if the professor doesn't want to, your university might charge you with theft or violation of personal property or some other BS charge.

Start looking for a criminal defense attorney because you're going to need one. Tell him every single detail and be completely honest. Otherwise you're perma-fucked.

>>59411101
This was pretty decent bait but go back to your shitty board

>>59410595
>tfw as a professor i'm now going to have every students email checked for this pdf
>BonerJams08
oh i hope you get whats coming to you punk ass bitch.
wasting all your parents monies on this school, just to be a failure who risks it all on one little test.
fucking shameful. i bet your parents are real proud of what a standup guy they've raised and slaved to put through school.

>>59410420
not OP here.
i don't cheat, i just use past material or logs as a reference

You bunch are retarded for falling for this troll...

>ever sending anything through email

OP, the best thing for you to do now is to literally pretend it never happened.

I understand it might be hard but just pretend it literally never happened and if questioned, just pretend you know nothing.

It'll all go smooth.

>>59411153
How can your school possibly sue two kids when they have no case?
If neither of the involved parties see a need to press charges, then there is no case.
The school is entirely uninvolved because school property was not damaged as a result of their fight (and even so, that doesn't justify the charges placed on them)

What shithole was this in that they accepted such a retarded case where some bumfuck third party can just bumble in between two consenting persons who want to fight?

Why wouldn't the school perform its usual extra-judicial punishments and just suspend the fuckers?

>>59410420
why cheat?

Well shit bruh

>>59410805
Are you white? I might have a way you can get around this that worked for me in something sort of similar.

>>59411272
this.
Remain calm and don't give a single shit

>>59410541
One, you're really only hurting yourself by doing this, you're paying for the classes after all, if you're not learning stuff from the class that either means the teacher is ineffective/doesn't accommodate your learning style, or you're not doing your part when it comes to reading and studying.

Two, this was a ridiculously high risk plan for little gain, if you weren't a retard you'd just take the F (not to mention it's doubtful that you would have actually gotten an F anyway, most professors curve their exams if most of the class would otherwise get a failing grade, and there's no reason to think you would do much worse than anyone else in the class).

There's really no reason to assume your plan would work, or that you wouldn't get caught. I mean obviously, he'd find out something was up when his daughter wasn't at the entrance, and when he talked to her about it later. And why would you assume he would leave the door unlocked, his computer logged in, and his flash drive plugged in? That's very poor behavior from a security point of view, especially since the text you described didn't convey any real sense of urgency. So either you're making this up for the lulz, or you got really lucky. And you still got caught anyway, so what's the point?

The only solution here is to make the exam and your degree irrelevant by starting a nuclear war.

>>59411025
This is just trolling, right? No one would *actually* think that's how this stuff works.

>>59411030
Emailed from his computer or from yours/a public computer?

>>59411570
>you're paying for the classes after all,
implying it matters considering you'll never be able to recall even half the answers to these tests in 5 years time
probably less

>>59411600
If you're getting a degree to get a job to start a career you know nothing about. Then a better life plan would be to aim for lower academic levels you actually manage and work hard at that.

Nobody will promote you because you have a degree if you're shit at your job.

>>59410838
What emails though? I don't get how your plan involved emails

Didn't actually read much of the thread though

>>59410941
Primitive but clever
Computers get less and less fun as time goes on
No tricks anymore

>>59411647
See
>>59411030
and
>>59411101

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>>59410548
>ti calculator in anthropology exam

>>59411030

couldn't fucking make a new gmail account yet you bought a whole goddamn fucking phone?

>>59410469

lol

So this guy

buys a phone, impersonates teacher's daughter, thinks this is - and I quote - "pretty impressive" and has a faintest doubt in his mind that this would somehow not be seen through.

He sends the stolen files to a university email. Despite being familiar with the concept of a burner phone, he does not create a new (as the cool kids put it - burner) email account via google, yahoo, msn or anything. He sends them to a fucking buddy's university email without considering for a brief second that something could go wrong.

He proceeds to realize that the test is booby trapped and intentionally and purposefully falls into the trap because he "wanted to keep the A" which mind you would otherwise be a failing grade.

This is a university student? You sure you're not in a university for special kids there buddy?

>>59411153
NO, DO NOT TELL YOUR ATTORNEY THE TRUTH
AN ATTORNEY HAS TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE 100% INNOCENT TO DEFEND YOU
Come up with a damn good lie, a believable lie, and make sure you have no holes in your story at all.
You would have to convince a jury that you are innocent. Not the school, not a prosecutor.
You attorney CANNOT know that you committed a crime, otherwise he cannot accept the case.

>>59411850
This is just bullshit

>>59411885
That is how it is in my state. The state bar for attorneys says that if you admit the crime to your defense attorney, they cannot defend you. They have to defend the INNOCENT. If they willingly lie for you, knowing that they lied, then they can be disbarred.
Besides, it is better they believe you are fully and completely innocent

>>59411850
>he cannot accept the case
He can and he will. He will focus on minimising the punishment if he knows you're guilty.

>>59410420
>>59410541
I bet these are the kind of people who make bots for games like RuneScape too, and use random() for randomness rather than say a distirbution like the gasussian

>>59411910
Regardless, state prosecutors usually offer plea bargains. And most judges are lenient on first time offenders.

He just needs to protect his ass, cover his tracks, and fucking lie through his goddamn teeth to the very end.

>>59411905
>it's better if they believe you're innocent.
So basically anon should construct a case that can fool his lawyer.

Why would he not present that to the court directly?

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>>59411925
>most judges are lenient on first time offenders.
maybe judges are, but academic institutions will rip you a new asshole

>>59410541
You're fucked OP. Now you have to kill the teacher before he tells it to anyone. Good luck with that.

>>59411931
Lawyers tend to believe that people are innocent.
Furthermore, if he gets lucky, he will also get a judge that was a defense attorney before being offered a position as a judge, meaning he would get a more lenient punishment or even a deferred judgement (ie, dismissed on a technicality)
Basically, he wants a lawyer that will
-Waive the right to a speedy trial (after he gets out of jail, that is. Get your bond first)
-Request an extension
-Check previous court cases for case law that may help him
-Put in a motion to dismiss
-Keep in contact with the prosecutor (this is a good thing to do, they tend to tell each other what they are going to do, in order to minimize issues later on)
-Demand all evidence
-Put in a motion to dismiss based on technicality if the prosecutor puts in a motion to traverse (AND HE ACTUALLY READS WHY THE FUCKING TRAVERSAL HAPPENED)


Basically, there is A LOT of shit lawyers have to do.

>Been there, done that. Cost me $10,000

>>59411030
>literal evidence of me doing this is on my uni email
>Not to myself I had them on the drive. Emailed them to my buddy

So you used your email account to email them to your buddy. It's the same fucking thing.

Hillary is that you?

>>59411925
Well, I do agre that it will be better if attorney believes you're innocent.
But what you say about attorneys have to defend the innocent is kind of a bullshit, murderers(done on purpose or not) get the attorneys to defend them.
I'm sure a lawyer will both equally defend somebody who accidentally killed somebody in a fight for a petty cause and somebody who murdered a friend in cold blood for money until realisation of what he has done kicked in and he is pleading guilty.

>>59411947

It shouldn't be too hard. He should dress up as his daughter and stab the professor in plain view of eyewitnesses and then quickly escape and ditch the costume.

>>59411976
Feels like some mission impossible movie.

>>59411971
My state is fucking hardcore about the whole "you cannot accept a known guilty person if they admit guilt. Like, will disbar them.

Here is a thing from a site
That being said, lawyers are still officers of the court, and therefore, we have ethical responsibilities to the justice system independent of our duties to our clients. One of the intersections between duty to a client and duty to the justice system comes with perjury, i.e., knowing falsity. As a lawyer, I can attack my opponent and his/her evidence, and I can offer up arguments that may be less than rock solid, so long as they are reasonably supported by the evidence. But I cannot lie, and I cannot offer your testimony if I know it is false. So if you tell your lawyer you are guilty, that limits what he or she can put in filings or present in court: a lawyer can still say that the state hasn't met its burden and its case makes no sense, for example, but he or she could not say "my client is innocent," or allow you to testify to your innocence, and sometimes, that's what a jury needs to hear.

"I felt like a spy, Your Honour"

>>59411991

Yes, exactly like some spy movie. I think it would be pretty impressive.

>>59410675
>acing an exam
You know that you're supposed to make a few mistakes here and there to make it seem legit right?

>>59411993
You killed a man and buried the evidence. You come to a lawyer and say "I killed a man and buried the evidence". A lawyer has no legal right to say "This man is innocent". If police managed to dig up the evidence and connect it to a man and you, lawyer is disbarred for lying. I fail to see flaws in this logic.
"But I cannot lie, and I cannot offer your testimony if I know it is false. So if you tell your lawyer you are guilty, that limits what he or she can put in filings or present in court"

>>59411850
>>59411885
There is actually an aspect of truth to it. We had an attorney have to send one of his coworkers to a case because some of the evidence given was damning and he couldn't legally make the case for us he was going to make as long as he had this new knowledge.

His partner "didn't" though, so he was legally fine to make the case.

>>59410548
I bought the answers to a science 12 exam off the teachers son, he got them off their home computer.

Loaded all the multiple choice onto my calculator and fucking sweat like crazy copying down all the answers during the test - the guy monitoring was actually doing his job.

I wasn't a retard and purposely put a few wrong, but it was still funny to see my written score being 10% while my MC was around 90.

Felt pretty great not to have to redo the course.

>>59410420

Face it faggot. U dun goofed

>>59413346
MC?

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>>59410541
You fucked up at the part where you went to see him personally instead of planting a small trojan when you were loading the power points presentations.
Amateur

>>59410541
How illegal is this?

>>59410450
>possibly
>what is an exchange server
What the fuck are you doing here

>>59411101
I can't believe this faggot got 100+ (yous) with this BS story

>>59410420
>Security camera footage of you walking in and out of his office on the day he got a call for his 'daughter'

>honest copper, that's my long lost doppelgänger; i was at home studying with elvis.

>>59411916
random() yields numbers from a distribution you mongrel
the distribution is `uniform'