>been on xp for 14 years >just now i want to upgrade >don't

>>59391971

macOS

Linux.

Because freedom.

8.1 + Classic Start Menu

>>59391971
7 is the last OS that lets you run with classic theme. You don't get hardware accel, but if you're still on XP hardware, you won't miss it much.

TempleOS

7 embedded

>>59392019
>7 is the last OS that lets you run with classic theme.
Its hard to describe to people why this is so important to me.

>>59391971
This is the worst place to ask. Honestly 10 is fine unless you're a pedo or doing some other illegal shit (and even then, it's fine).

>>59392057
Because there's no good reason and it's ugly as all fuck.

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Linux

Read this
http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net

>>59391971
install gentoo

>>59392080
>Because there's no good reason and it's ugly as all fuck.
Well defined UI elements with zero ambiguity, and CONTRAST on the elements
No desktop composition means that everything runs at a much lower latency which is nice for gaming

Seems nice to me.

>>59392019
Well I'm thinking on upgrading my hardware too in the near future.
Currently running 2GB RAM, will update to 4GB.
My current board is AMD Phenom II X3 710, guess I'll have to upgrade it as well, but I know nothing of that.

If that is the case, is 7 still the best option?

>>59392080
The most illegal shit I do is browsing this place, so guess I'm fine.
Still have to ask, most of the times windows fucks up something or a previous version is better.

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>>59392135
I highly suggest to get an 8GB ram it's "The sweet spot" for most people, as stated in a tech website.

>>59391989
Freedom™

>>59392083
To be honest this doesn't seem very objective
Also
>no gaems
>>59392221
I'll buy 2 4GB RAMs,one at a time since I'm still a wagecuck
Or is it better to buy 1 8GB instead?

>>59392253
2 X 4gb can be used in dual channel mode which is better. Dual channel doubles the communication between the memory controller and RAM, thus increasing system performance.

>>59391971
Linux Fedora if security is your #1 concern.
Win10 if you just want it to work & game.
Win7 has telemetry like win10 now, so only if you have Skylake, Zen or future CPU architectures

>>59392279
Guess I'll do that.
Only thing now is about the motherboard. Is that one fine for these upgrades or I need to upgrade that too?

Where the hell can I get a decent cracked windows 10 torrent ?

Everything I've been finding is embedded with viruses.

>>59392385
Only if you don't have those, sorry

>>59391971
install gentoo
(unironically)

>>59391971
XP for 14 years. What's stopping you from adding another 14 years to XP? Why the sudden urge to change?

>>59392448
I got bored of the limitations.
Also, I'll be getting more money than the one required for me to live next month
>>59392417
So basically to summarize, use Win7 since my CPU is older than those, right?

>>59392400
You should be fine since ram is one of the easiest things to upgrade. The CPU and GPU are bit trickier and can be more demanding of other upgrades.

>>59392483
What limitations?

>>59392573
Well, basically everything is getting updated post vista. Also, some shit games I can't play since this is old, and thought, why not upgrading software and hardware.
>>59392540
So, I keep this one for now? Well, that makes this little project cheaper!

Thanks fellow anons, you're as lovely as always

>>59391989
>freedom

anon meant to say open-source

>>59391971
If you like the way you have done things thus far, the only answer is 7 or linux, linux set up similarly to windows xp.

>>59392407
i've got a legit clean torrent but it's from a private tracker (obviously)...

if this thread lives till tomorrow(cause it's 4 am) i'll DL it and mirror it somewhere.

>>59392083

Lmao, why can't freetards make a decent website?

>Why Linux is Better!
>Website looks like it's from the 90s

Guaranteed that website has converted exactly 0 people.

>>59392644
Thank you

>>59392407
Nowhere, because there's a keylogger and bulk-RAT even in official cppies.

>>59392135
When upgrading the CPU you might have to make sure you have the latest BIOS. What motherboard do you have? If you don't know, download a prog called Speccy and post a screenshot of the motherboard.

>>59393008
>AMD Phenom II X3 710
At least that's what I got from CCleaner

So have you decided what OS you'll be switching to?

>>59392852
I don't care because I'm just using it for shitty games .

>>59393045
Guess 7, seems like the best option for a poorfag like me.
Also if my information is correct, new vidya still comes out for 7, so it'll be good for at least 14 years I guess

>>59392385
But you can turn the telemetry off on windows 7 anon

>>59393032
That's the CPU, not the motherboard. I ask because if you upgrade the CPU, the bios may or may not be able to handle more cores, and a bios update will update the CPU microcode of the BIOS. The program Speccy is freeware and gives you and us all the information we need to lookup your motherboard maker and see if the BIS can support a newer CPU. Hope that helps.

>>59393032
>X3 710
Is your PC a stock(bought from store) PC? If so, from what year? There's a chance you'll have to upgrade the motherboard along with the CPU.

>>59392083
>Don't wait years for bugs to be solved
>Enjoy free and unlimited support
>Use MSN, AIM, ICQ, Jabber, with a single program
>The code for this site itself is now open source. Check it out on GitHub and come contribute!
>Think that it might be an abandoned site but it has commits on 2017
Oh i'm laffin

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>>59391971
Do not go for Linux unless it has support for you hardwate. I have been suffering driver problems in Ubuntu. See this thread.
>>59393122

>>59393076
I think Windows 7 should be excellent for most stuff for another 9 years unless them pajeets run additional measures to aggressively obsolete it

>>59393124
Yeah what make and model is the PC? Chances are the PSU is shitty quality old and underpowered and I wouldn't recommend an upgrade anyway. Depending on the manufacturer you might not even be able to reuse the case which sucks.

>>59393163
Yeah. But he won't get free update to Win10 even if he buys a genuine copy of Win7.

Still using a core2duo windows xp machine
Shame everything is going past xp, everything I do is still fine on xp at least

I recommend windows 8.1
Install classicshell to have a regular start menu and its golden

7 I feel isn't that big of a jump and 10 is kind of a mess in my opinion

>>59393227
I dualboot XP/Ubuntu on my T410 and honestly this guy is dumb when he says get 8.1
Get 7.

8.1

>>59393124
Not stock, rebuilt it myself like some years ago thanks to a friends spare parts
>>59393114
Motherboard
>ASUSTeK Computer INC. M3N78-EM (AM2)

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>>59393313
You cant use modern DDR3/DDR4 ram with it. Pic related is what I'd get if I were you right now. It's relatively cheap and you can get the parts gradually. The PSU will probably be enough if it's from this millenium (<300W)

>>59393375
Thanks for your help, I'll geet the ram and update to 7 for now, and slowly upgrade as i get parts

>>59393375
The supported CPU list does not list the Athlon X4 845. Here's the list of supported CPUs based on their latest BIOS.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M3N78EM/HelpDesk_CPU/

>>59393452
Why would you upgrade to windows 7 when it's already at the end of it's support life cycle? Why waste the money?

>>59393608
That's why I was asking.
So, 8.1 then?

>>59393620
8.1 mainstream support will last till next year. Microsoft really wants to end it badly. I'd go with Windows 10 if you want to keep your mobo for a few years since the operating system will be supported for years to come. Copies of Windows are tied to the mobo unless you get a genuine retail copy of Windows 10 and not an OEM or "system builders". As far as the CPU goes the fastest, cheapest supported CPU I'd get is the Phenom II X4 920 since you have an AM2+ motherboard.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001NFT1R4/?tag=pcpapi-20

>>59391971
10 is fine if you dont care about microshit collecting a lot of data on you. Its the most up to date and I think it's pretty

However, I'm still using 7 as it's still supported and has the classic theme.

For the love of god don't use the trainwreck that is 8 or 8.1.

I don't have much comment in linux

>>59393830
Well fuck it, I'll just go 7.
I've been with XP various years without support, and as long as it's stable I'll be fine

>>59392018
Just stop.

>>59392117
If you turn off the glass effect + other visual effects, and then customize your colors, you can get the same feel without such a bleh look.

>>59393608
>Why waste the money?
No one is telling him to buy Windows 7, you idiot.
Also, you would use 7 for less botnet shit and because it's still under extended support for the next 3 years.

Also don't get DD3 Ram, the mobo only supports DDR2 memory. Previous poster didn't do his homework first.

>>59393865
linux mint mang, mint

>>59393882
Fuck off with your botnet bullshit, it makes you sound like a paranoid schizo.

>>59391971
Anything but windows 10

I'd say use Windows 7. there are some updates to be avoided so look into that

>>59393932
You're an idiot.
We know definitively that windows 10 collects and sends data.
Want proof? Open up wireshark and do a start menu search.

>>59391971
Windows 2000 with extended kernel and unofficial updates

>>59393958
>it's released for "free"
>kek stop being paranoid xd

I didn't know people still used XP. Are you retarded or something OP?

>>59393958
oh noe they are trying to figure out what users do so they can optimize the software better


heaven forbid!

>>59393882
OP: "Thanks for your help, I'll get the ram and update to 7 for now, and slowly upgrade as i get parts"

You must have missed that part huh?

Also don't get DDR3 memory... your mobo DOESN'T support it. you need to stick with DDR2.

>>59392385
You can avoid the telemetry in Windows 7 and its nowhere near as extensive

Plus I find 7 just works a hell of a lot better. With 10 I always got a shit connection in online games because it decides when to download updates not the user

>>59393981
.01 msft share has been deposited to your broker

>>59392407
>embedded with viruses
>windows 10
There's your problem mate

>>59393982
Where in that sentence does anyone recommend buying Windows 7?

>>59393977
Yes. And a poorfag.

>>59393865
7 is nice. I've been on it from day one and I refuse to upgrade.

>>59393990
So you're telling me people still buy windows?

>>59393375
What is that webpage?
>>59394006
No.
Unless they use 10, then they "buy it"

>>59393990
Are we talking about buying, or pirating here?
Windows 7 was recommended 2 times on this thread before the op stated he would go with it. then I asked why he would want to buy windows 7 when it's at the end of it's mainstream support (only critical updates for now on) then it turned into a flame war about windows telemetry.

W10

>>59392094
Most fa/g/s that say this don't use Linux. They use 10, smd

>>59391971
Windows 7 Embedded, Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell and various tweaks

>>59391971
7 is the best step, go to 10 when you are ready.

>>59391971
Switched from xp a year and a half ago. I built a machine and ended up running linux for web searching and use while I made up my mind. Realized I could just use my old windows in a virtual machine for my old programs and keep using linux for web etc.. Started with mint and then moved to lubuntu for bit faster system. It was a bit of learning but I've never had a better time computing. Now using windows less and less but theres still an old audio processing software that I use but runs way faster in a new machine virtually than it did before. Windows installs better virtually as well. No endless searching for drivers.

No OS is 'better'. All are frustrating shit but you get by and then happiness happens.

>>59392407
You can get it on the MS site you cuck.

>>59392608
>Well, basically everything is getting updated post vista.
You mean you want to run programs that don't run on XP?

>>59393830
It should be born in mind that 7 is already out of support, though. It may not be long until you find yourself in a similar situation again, especially if you keep in mind that Microsoft supported XP far longer than they wanted to, and may not do the same thing with 7.

>>59398860
Considering I've been with XP lots of years without support and just now it's giving me problems, I'm sure I'll be ok.
Worst case scenario in three years I'll have to update again. I can live with that.
>>59398842
Condering everything is going that direction... Yes.

>>59392117
>Well defined UI elements with zero ambiguity

the fuck are you talking about

>>59391989
Linux is only free if your time is worthless

>>59399806
brainlets wouldn't understand

>>59399806
>Because Windows just werks.

>>59399806
This meme needs to die ASAP

Linux. Much better for programming (native gcc, clang and build tools), proper package management and updates, and it can run properly the few games I play.

pirate 7 and do everything in your power to stop the american juden from spying you
finding an already cracked iso online is very easy

>>59392080
you should go back in your room and play, adults are talking.

>>59400076
explain how it's wrong.

>>59391971
Truly depends on your usecase.

If you want to play games or use Windows only software, go with 7 or 10LTSB/Education.

If you don't want to do either of those things, or the games you want to play work on linux either natively or through something like WINE, I would suggest linux.
Since you've been on windows for 14 years, I would suggest a flavor of ubuntu or fedora. Personally, I don't like mint, but some people do.

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>>59392083
this website has some meme potential

>>59400519
It's just a strawman. The same is true with Windows or MacOS. Literally anything you do to configure your machine costs time, even changing the wallpaper.

It's true that the majority of linux users spend a lot of time configuring their installation, but that isn't a necessity. Most distros "just werk" nowdays.

>>59400519
It is of course true, but to the extent that it is, it is no more a indictment of Linux than it is of any other operating system.

>>59399806
>Implying Ubuntu Linux wastes your time
Yuh huh
Sure thing

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>>59399806
>not understanding that he meant free as in speech not as in beer

>>59401292
haha what. of course it is an indictment of Linux more than Windows or OS X.

>>59400611
nice argument. everything takes time therefore it doesn't matter how much time it takes.

desktop linux most definitely does not "just work" for anything more than browsing 4chan, and the software library for non-programmers is non-existant.

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>>59401528

>>59393608
It still has 3 years, you should do a fresh install every 1-2 years anyways
Also
>Buying windows

>>59393911
Linux mint cinnamon win7 dual boot

>>59401575
This pic is so dumb, only the apple one is correct. On Windows catastrophic failures don't really happen unless it's a hardware malfunction.

On Linux, you encounter 10 drivers that don't or only half work after installing. No problem there's like a zillion stackexchange posts about all of these. Oh here this guy has it. Open some obscure config file. Nope sudo open it OK here we go. Copy all of this stuff I pretend to understand. OK my sound card works now. My microphone doesn't work if I plug in headphones but whatever. OK driver 2/10. Etc etc. Then a couple weeks later something else will not work for no reason (mind you this is a feature of Linux, things break because you want to fix them) and then back to stackexchange. But now this other problem cannot be solved, because you changed something before that affects this issue


So now you are left with an OS with hundreds of config files you sudo changed, and you cannot fix one thing without breaking another. Then you just give up, reinstall the distro and pray the drivers work.

>>59401695
>On Windows catastrophic failures don't really happen unless it's a hardware malfunction.
>
>On Linux, you encounter 10 drivers that don't or only half work after installing.
That's odd, because my experience is the exact opposite. Trying to install Windows on a new machine is truly an exciting adventure of searching for drivers that don't suck or are outright wrong.

On the other hand, Linux (even Debian) almost always works perfectly on any hardware I throw at it.

>No problem there's like a zillion stackexchange posts about all of these.
It is funny that you should say that, since the last time I installed Windows 7, I had to go looking through StackExchange and obscure MSKB articles to find out how to stop Windows Update from consuming CPU indefinitely.

>>59401778
I had the same feeling initially with Mint, but then I found out that a lot of the drivers where off and nothing worked entirely like it should. Like the touchpad acted weird when you accidentally touched it with your palm, the microphone noise reduction didn't work.

But I agree it's the same for Windows. It's just that when you fix it on Windows you can be sure it won't come back to bite you in the ass. My usb3 driver didn't work upon install.

>>59401695
>On Linux, you encounter 10 drivers that don't or only half work after installing. No problem there's like a zillion stackexchange posts about all of these. Oh here this guy has it. Open some obscure config file. Nope sudo open it OK here we go. Copy all of this stuff I pretend to understand. OK my sound card works now. My microphone doesn't work if I plug in headphones but whatever. OK driver 2/10. Etc etc. Then a couple weeks later something else will not work for no reason (mind you this is a feature of Linux, things break because you want to fix them) and then back to stackexchange. But now this other problem cannot be solved, because you changed something before that affects this issue
This is complete bullshit that hasn't been relevant since 2003. I have never had a single driver problem on linux in literally years. I've done 4 fresh installs in the last 5 months on 4 different machines and didn't have a single issue there either. Quit talking out your ass.

>>59401695
>On Windows catastrophic failures don't really happen unless it's a hardware malfunction.
To begin with, that's just dumb to say. There's a ton of poorly written software out there that will mess up Windows systems in various ways.

But even so, why shouldn't hardware malfunction be taken seriously? The point of the picture is that when something goes wrong -- and stuff go wrong on any O/S, hardware or not -- then it's always possible to solve the problem on Linux, whereas on Windows you're pretty much left with an undecipherable error message and the option to reinstall from scratch.

>>59401695
>On Windows catastrophic failures don't really happen unless it's a hardware malfunction.
If that's true, how is it that I always have relatives asking me to fix their computers?

>>59392080
>illegal shit
Ok, I live in UK and I torrent few movies and a tv series or two per month, had no problems with the law so far, should I be afraid of W10 or not do much?

>>59391971
Linux

Because your current computer probably cannot handle anything else

>>59401778
>That's odd, because my experience is the exact opposite. Trying to install Windows on a new machine is truly an exciting adventure of searching for drivers that don't suck or are outright wrong.

why do you lie?

>>59402153
'Tis the unadultered, honest-to-the-Lord truth. I had a couple of excursion with Windows lately since i wanted to debug problems with a Java program that only showed up on Windows, and those were my experiences.

>>59401834
>anecdotal evidence
Wew lad

>>59391989
Freedom is worthless if you become a slave of your machine.

>>59393129
>Don't wait years for bugs to be solved
Yeah. Wait decades with open bugs
>Enjoy free and unlimited support
"Are you a fucking retard, imbecile? RTMF"
"Oh, god, gnuser352 did you resolve your problem in 2007?"
>Use MSN, AIM, ICQ, Jabber, with a single program
Granted, but no one of my contacts use that shit anymore
>The code for this site itself is now open source. Check it out on GitHub and come contribute!
Worthless if I don't know and I'm not interested in programming
>>Think that it might be an abandoned site but it has commits on 2017
Kek

>>59391971
How did you managed with security?

>>59402512
Dunno.
Having no problems to be honest.

>>59402512
What security issues would you expect there to be? It's not like XP has any remote, unauthenticated exploitable security bugs.

>>59391971
You like the touchscreen meme?
Adroid
WIndows 10

You want somthing that looks like a windows XP
Mac OSx

You want to build your own Os?
Archlinux <-- im not resposable for what happens to you after 2 moths trying to make it work

>>59402808
>build your os
>arch
Nah, that's LFS.

Windows server 2016

>>59394082
except I do