>garbage BIOS on launch >garbage chipset drivers on launch

>>59329382
unfortunately they cant go out of business. intel needs them to fend off anti trust

so you see a lot of intel shadow money flowing into the "company" to keep them "viable"

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>>59329382
>It always has been and will be

>>59329400

Then Intel shrugged and shat out core 2 a few years later and AMD was destroyed ever since.

>>59329382
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2832148/x99-boards-riddled-problems.html

yup

>>59329509

>fake news

>>59329517
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-x99-motherboard-goes-up-in-smoke-for-reasons-unknown_150008

yup

>>59329535
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2292294/asus-x99-motherboard-smoke-update.html

yup2

>>59329535

>literal who? site

Intel hasn't bungled a release yet - this is just clickbait to distract from ryzen's issues.

>>59329382
the only way intel managed to kill amd was when they bribed their partners to use only intel chips..

>>59329546
https://tinkertry.com/vmware-psods-on-broadwell-cpus-xeon-e-and-xeon-d-kb2146388

>>59329546
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/intel-skylake-bug-causes-pcs-to-freeze-during-complex-workloads/

i'm note even digging down to 00s
it was much worse back then, like when they had to pull whole xeon line due to hardware bugs

>>59329546
>foretting intel's bungled x99 release
literal shill

>>59329573

You've caught me. Still it does show how many anons on /g/ and other tech sites really do believe that Intel has never fucked anything up ever. The denial over hyperthreading is a particularly good one.

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>>59329382

>>59329546
nehalems are calling
first gen skylakes are calling
broadwell is calling

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>>59329382
DELETE

>>59329748
you forgot the current Atoms

>>59329382
>mcdonalds
>you will always regret it later
>implying

>>59330097
not even intel cares about the atoms anymore

>>59329382

>AMD: burger king
>takes 2 minutes to get after you order it

>Intel: steak
>takes 30 minutes to get after you order it

seems about right (cinebench R15 multi threaded performance KEK)

>>59329398
I remember in Deus Ex 2 here was a subplot about 2 coffee companies.
One was super-duper-organic, and other one was ultra-mega-artificially-enhanced.
Those companies were at war, even as far as terrorist strikes against each other.
In the end it turns out they are owned by same people...

>>59329382
X79
>Broken PCI-E 3.0
-Has to be locked down to 2.0 speeds
-VT-d doesn't work on Sandy Bridge E
-Has to be disabled in microcode
>Haswell
-TSX is broken
-Has to be disabled in microcode
-8 series chipsets ship with a bug which causes the system to hang when transferring large files over USB 3
>Skylake
-TSX IS STILL BROKEN
-Has to be disabled
THANK YOU BASED INTEL

All of these where major hardware bugs, that shipped in retail products. If Intel where a resteruant, they'd serve you your steak half burnt, and when you complain they cut off the burnt half and leave you with half a steak.

>>59330204
I always fucking do though - it always gives me indigestion

>>59330893
Forgetting chipset sata bugs? Usb sleep bugs? Skylake load stall bug? X99 mobos frying?

How fucked are your alimentary habits that you regret McDonald's? Whenever I eat McDonald's it's because I feel like having something unhealthy and filled with artificial shit, so I get exactly what I'm looking for. What kind of person eats so much McDonald's that they can actually regret it? That's why you're fat.

underage confirmed

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>ryzen appeared in my local retail today
>with mark in stock "a lot"
>gone before lunch

you memeing doesn't seem to work, work harder

>>59331111

How fucked is someone who can even stand eating McDonalds? What kind of a person has such fucked alimentary habits that they could actually eat a Big Mac and not instantly throw up? That's why you're a fag.

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>>59329382
Too bad Intel is worse at everything.

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Several sites have tested AMD Ryzen's performance and found several inconsistencies with the established narrative that it cannot game well.

Eteknix tested it with the 1080 Ti and found that performance actually improved to beyond Intel's on the exact same GPU, ruling out the GPU masking inferior performance. I'll just compare the 7700K to Ryzen's octocores and leave out Doom, which is apparently capped at 200 FPS.

http://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-cpu-showdown-i7-7700k-vs-ryzen-r7-1800x-vs-i7-5820k/

Hardware Canucks benchmark here:

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, DX12, 1080p:
Core i7 7700K: 64.99.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 60.92.

Eteknix performance:

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, 1080p, Ultra, MSAA Off:
Core i7 7700K: 68.0 min, 91.1 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 64.4 min, 112.3 avg.

Tom's Hardware benchmark here:

Hitman (2016), 1080p, Ultra:
Core i7 7700K: 58.0 min, 106.3 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X stock: 53.0 min, 91.7 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X no SMT: 54.0 min, 96.7 avg.

Eteknix performance:

Hitman, 1080p, Ultra:
Core i7 7700K: 55.0 min, 120.0 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X stock: 56.9 min, 120.0 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X @ 4.1 GHz: 80 min, 130.0 avg.

Guru3D benchmarks here:

Rise of the Tomb Raider, 1080p:
Core i7 7700K: 132.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 114.
Note: Core i7 6900K FPS is 137 here. Indicative of subpar AMD Ryzen architecture optimization.

Far Cry Primal, DX11, 1080p:
Core i7 7700K: 108.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 93.
Note: Core i7 6900K FPS is 100 here. Once again indicative of subpar AMD Ryzen architecture optimization.

Eteknix performance:

Rise of the Tomb Raider, 1080p, Very High:
Core i7 7700K: 76.0 min, 159.0 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 105.0 min, 174.6 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X @ 4.1 GHz: 120 min, 182.1 avg.

Far Cry Primal, 1080p, Ultra:
Core i7 7700K: 73.0 min, 106.0 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 57.0 min, 82.0 avg.
Ryzen 7 1800X @ 4.1 GHz: 60.0 min, 88.0 avg.

Yeah, I know, not the most carefully-assembled benchmark comparison, but in these games, AMD went from losing to winning, except in Doom and Ubisoft's Far Cry Primal.

>>59331166
You seem to have a eating disorder lad.

>>59329382
Both X99 and Sandy Bridge was riddled with issues at launch you retard, but I know that you don't remember it since you were still in your diapers when Sandy Bridge was released

>>59331230
Jesus christ people its the scheduler, it throws a thread at a logical core thinking its a physical one, killing performance, at times it does not, showing proper performance.

That's why you're getting inconsistent numbers games aren't static like blender is.

ZoLKoRn, a Thai website, tested Ryzen with one of its two CCXes offline, bringing it down to 4-core/8-thread, and found performance so drastically improved that core-for-core, clock-for-clock, Ryzen's performance was very close to the 7700K's.

http://www.zolkorn.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k-mhz-by-mhz-core-by-core/3/

Rise of the Tomb Raider 1080p, Very High, DX12:
Core i7 7700K: 119.15/94.41/100.9 with 105.42 overall.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 117.31/91.74/84.24, with 97.96 overall.

Tom Clancy's The Division, 1080p, Ultra Preset, DX11:
Core i7 7700K: 102.9 FPS.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 100.2 FPS.

Far Cry Primal, 1080p, Ultra Preset, DX11:
Core i7 7700K: 73 minimum, 103 average, 130 max.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 61 minimum, 91 average, 113 max.

Grand Theft Auto V, 1080p, Very High, 4xMSAA, DX11:
Core i7 7700K: 112.99 FPS.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 110.68 FPS.

Battlefield 1, 1080p, Ultra Preset, DX11:
Core i7 7700K: 99 minimum, 119.1 average, 132 max.
Ryzen 7 1800X: 95 minimum, 109.4 average, 135 max.


Testers on Anandtech forums also discovered that Ryzen performs noticeably better on Windows 7 than on Windows 10 in Total War: Warhammer despite a lack of official support. Total War: Warhammer is another game where AMD is somewhat behind Intel.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-8#post-38775732

Combine this with what we know about AMD's performance outside of games, and what we know about W10's scheduler problem with Ryzen, and it's pretty safe to conclude that once some software updates have come and gone, Ryzen will actually perform quite well, even in gaming, and especially in newer titles. And we know that Microsoft is already working on a fix for the problem. This also means that when the cheaper hexcore and quadcore CPUs launch later this year, the price to performance ratios should be pretty high. Sorry, folks, looks like Ryzen might actually not suck after all.

>>59331264
there is no way of knowing now who accounted for RTC bug of x0.25 multipliers and who didn't

>>59331264
When I think that Linux scheduler is fucked and then NT makes this

>>59329382
I like McDonals, I don't like steak, fite me

>>59331275
GTA V

1800X
.1% 70 fps
1% 74 fps
10% 82 fps
25% 82 fps
50% 90 fps
75% 98 fps
90% 106 fps
99% 126 fps

7700K
.1% 82 fps
1% 90 fps
10% 102 fps
25% 106 fps
50% 110 fps
75% 118 fps
90% 126 fps
99% 138 fps

basically it's identical to 7700K if you read histograms right

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/ddr4-haswell-e-scaling-review-2133-to-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/4?_ga=1.158298746.1192874396.1486829326

first intel try at ddr4 when it lost performance at higher frequencies

haha memes

>>59330981
Those where just the ones I could remember of the top my head. Into should be remained erratel.

>ALWAYS in caps
Lost it there, nice meme, Intel shats

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>>59329382
What does being cheap has to do with anything?
>mcdolands
How unreasonable you've to be to choose something you don't enjoy.

>>59331166
It's engineered to taste good, mate.
If you feel bad after eating it, you've to be fucked in the head.

>>59330753
the steak looks like shit though. Either the person who ordered asked them to ruin it, or fine dining establishments can not cook steak.

to be 100% honest, rather have a bigmac then a bad steak as iv never been disappointed by fast food, but a bad steak would piss me off for weeks.

>>59329546
>Intel hasn't bungled a release yet
They had sata controllers burning up a few years back.

>>59329382
>A fine product you can always rely on

I had 2 CPUs deaths in my experience. Both were Intel.

>>59331453
>If you feel bad after eating it, you've to be fucked in the head.
Feeling bad AFTER eating it is a normal reaction for most people because they realize how many empty calories they consumed.

But I'll be damned if it doesn't taste good.

People who pretend otherwise usually tend to be special snowflakes.
>Lmao who is "Taylor Swift"? xD

>>59329430
>Core2
Core 2 Duo was literally two Pentiums strapped together. Intlel had literally no response to AMD except to continue to lie and jew benchmarks. Use your favorite search engine and educate yourself. Try "Intel FTC" "Intel Anti-Trust" "Intel unfair business practices"

>>59333251
Being normal doesn't make it rational.
If someone feels bad about eating something, they should not eat, it's that simple. But if they still insists on doing it, they are either simulating it to justify their choice or are simply retarded.

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>>59331230
>>59331264
>>59331275
>>59331323
>muh obscure sites with benchmarks favouring amd
>muh random fag on random forum acting like he knows better than reviewers and especially amd engineers
>muh clock to clock even tho i7 7700k is clocked much higher out of reach of ryzen
>muh downclocking i7 to match ryzen XDDD
>muh bios updates will fix performance
>muh windows scheduler's fault XDD
>muh intel/ryzen are sabottaging ryzen launch!
>"(cpu) drivers will fix it" - r/amd

EVERY FUCKING TIME, JUST WAIT SOME MORE YOU RETARDS JUST LIKE BULLDOZER, RYZEN = BULLDOZER 2.0 IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

>>59333669
>*sniff* mommy I think i bought a delidlake too soon s-stupid amd!

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>>59333669
HAAHAHAHAHHHHHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHH

INTARD IS ANALLY DEVASTATED

CRY MORE RETARD, AND TAKE YOUR INTEL HOUSEFIRES WITH YOU

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>>59333732
>>59333764

>>59329535
If you bothered to read your own link in the end was the shitty Corsair PSU that caused the damage.

>>59333669
>>59333669
>Erratel
>2017

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>>59333809

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>>59329635
I remember this guy
I heard he's a furry now

>>59329382
> ZEN 2 WILL BTFO INTEL
it will continue on beating intel.

threads like yours reek of desperation and denial. I'm definentely not ignoring them because I just can't pass on have a nice toast drinking your tears.

cheers to the other who came in only to remind how big of a faggot this wailing OP is.

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>>59333669
2500k <3 still works like a pro.

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>>59333927

>>59333669
Shit's just hilarious desu

AMD just keeps making the same mistakes over and over again

>>59333278
Core 2 Duo was fucking solid in terms of performance. I mean sure let's say they paid companies to use Intel in laptops.

But what about home builders?
Why did everyone pick Intel?

Oh yeah, they paid everyone like 3 gazillion us dollars and shekels, too? Amirite?
Or it was simply better... ?

>>59334001
your reply just make even happier when I realized beyond the shadow of a doubt how big of a deluded moron you are.

I'll refer to you as rambus target audience, from now on.

>>59329382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz_-Q5QzRqg

enjoy your thermal paste.

>>59329430
>copied amd athlon x2

>>59329382
>both give you different types of cancer down the line

Sounds correct

>>59333278
That was Pentium D. Conroe was different. It was a solid arch for its time.

>>59329382
0.01 shekels have been deposited into your account

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>>59334053

>>59334072
They could cool the 7700K or the others with cum, who the fuck cares if it blows the fuck out of the competition?
KEK

>>59334144
DELET

I'm sure his mum already had to clean him up twice or more. Just stop. Poor woman.

>>59334045
>Intel releases false benchmarks claiming better performance
And these
>Home builders
Eat the false benchmarks up and think they are getting superior perfomance.

What is so hard to understand about this? People are too fucking stupid to look for non-biased reviews, or do testing themselves. They buy into the marketing bs from companies with no research. Now days the tech reviewers have a lot more exposure so shit like that doesn't fly as easily. However, Intel still has large coffers to pay off a large number of people to shill for them.

>>59330876
lol, this

>>59333669
>faster than intel 8 coars in x264, media
>those are multithreaded
>single core synthetic is the same as broadlel
>only gaymes shit it up
>it's not windows' fault
>not game dev's fault
the raw power is there. the cache is huge and fast.

Ryzen
> faster than Intel's 8 core chips in just about everything
> faster than 7700K in pretty much everything except gaming, and only because of Windows 10 thread scheduling issues that are going to be fixed
> Intel fags desperately trupmet around the 7700K as if it's the best thing since sliced bread

>>59334166
Core2 is not nowadays.
And it performed much better all around.
You could also do mad OC.

(Well we managed to OC my friend's X2, but it was obliterated by the Core2 I had, kek.)

>Meanwhile AMD is getting ready to drop the proverbial atomic bomb on Intel with Naples.
Ryzen was never built with gamers in mind. It was built for servers in mind, and there it's been shown again and again that it will beat the shit out of intel.

We're just the beta-testers for the true launch.

>garbage BIOS on launch
>garbage chipset drivers on launch

Nobody believed AMD after the FX fiasco. When they realized it was good, Ryzen was already released and it was too late to retreat, so they went along with it, releasing garbage.

>"HAY GUIZE, ZEN 2 WILL BTFO INTEL FOR REAL THIS TIME"

By 2018 these bugs will already be fixed, so yes, it will, as it does now. AMD is back in the game and you Intel cucks need to STFU.

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>>59334212
Except none of that is true

Literally the only thing Ryzen is good at is video encoding/rendering

Everything else is both faster and cheaper on Intel

Ryzen is a total rip off

>>59334221
No, Ryzen is a consumer line. Zeppelin die is server one though, and a good one at that.

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>>59334053
plz delet kind sir

>>59334229
>ignoring all other benchmarks where Ryzen wins

>>59334233
Uh, the 8c Ryzen die out and the individual dies Naples will be built with are the same thing.

>>59334229
> Except none of that is true
You're not convincing anyone, except maybe yourself via confirmation bias.
Of course you're going to cherrypick specific examples to validate your claim, ignore software issues that are inevitably going to be fixed that invalidate even your cherry picked examples.

>>59334258
That's what I fucking said. Die is called Zeppelin, Ryzen is just a consumer line of chips.

>>59329382
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>>59329382

>There have never been any new platform issues with intel

You're a fool.

>>59334212
7700K is the new Pentium 4 Emergency Edition

>>59334045
>Oh yeah, they paid everyone like 3 gazillion us dollars and shekels, too? Amirite?
>Or it was simply better... ?

I was personally influenced to buy P4 (aka netburst) instead of AMD after reading 2 reviews that by all means and for ethics purposes should have been disclosed as paid advertisement. Nowadays it's the same old shit only transdpalnted online or in video format.

It took me a good while to even get buyers remorse then, and I only left denial when it was about to upgrade once more.

If you think that deep pockets can't influence the press your beyond salvation. And it's not all about money, most journalists simply feel timid and feeble against giant corps and dare not provoke them; of course you'll scourge up that couple guys who had always bashed intel back from the early 2000's and onwards, but they're the exception, the rule have always been well behaved lill shills that will bend over over any excessive request from their overlords.

>>59334286
That would be new hexacore Coffee Lake though. Literally damage control line of chips.

>>59333669
>obscure sites
>its techreport histogram broken down for retards like you

>>59330206
they do now, cisco won't be happy about faulty cpus bricking their expensive network hardware

>>59333669
>tom's hardware
>not bought by Intel

You're not even trying, Intel cuck.

>>59334045
the thing is, Intel doesn't even need to reach out to their pockets to have people shilling for them. Literal sycophants will do the heavy lifting by default.

>>59334229
>Intel is better
>Shows Intel outperforming 3x price Intel

>>59334229
> Sysmark
> Literally engineered by Intel to promote Intel

>>59334045
i'm still running the phenom x4 II i bought back in 07, no regrets, fuck you

>>59334166
>They buy into the marketing bs from companies with no research

the problem is when the "research" is misleading. If you have never bought anything inferior to its competition thinking you were acting upon on a well informed deliberation, then i'll envy you quite a bit.

>>59334405
>the problem is when the "research" is misleading
specially if you have only english at your disposal
cross referencing youtube with written sources kind of helps, but you have to dig deep to get any real info

>>59334296
mind you that this back in the day when the sheer cost of purchasing 2 imported english publications was quite a chunk from my 16 year old allowance delivered in 3rd world currency.

I had to pay to get fucking shilled - fuck, I didn't thought of that til just now.

>>59329382
I'd prefer a Big Mac over a steak.

Not to say I'd prefer AMD over Intel. Just saiyan.

>>59334233
>server stuff scaled down and packaged up for consumers then sold as a prosumer/enthusiast part
where have we seen this before?

>>59334300
7700K and P4EE will both burn your house down

>food analogys
faggots

>>59334625
>analogys

faggot

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What is intels excuse for having a socket change for almost every new cpu? I feel as if a 1700 now is better because I can upgrade 4 years down the line with AMD.

>>59334671
Everyone will pay for it anyway because it's Intel. That's their excuse.

>>59331166
>>59333251
I've never felt bad after eating McDonald's because I actually eat healthy the rest of the time. If eating unhealthy food brings you down even a little bit, then you are the problem.

>garbage bios on launch

that's not AMD's fault anon.

Ryzen is sh-....

http://valid.x86.fr/bench/aqtazc

DELET
ELETD
LTDEL

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>>59336231
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/aqtazc/16

I TOLD YOU TO FUCKING DELET DIS

>>59336231
>>59336264
ON A 160 DOLLARS MOTHERBOARD.

>>59334671

it's so they never have to reduce the price on chipsets as they only have a shelf life of 12 months and when shitty motherboards bite the dust the user is forced to upgrade or risk buying another defective used motherboard because they have been discontinued for years and aren't being sold new

I NEED WINDOWS 7 BENCHMARKS

>>59336231
>>59336264
Whats this supposed to be?

>>59336569
>http://valid.x86.fr/bench/aqtazc

are you seriously telling me that you can't understand a categorized graph with one input value?

i72600 stock 1353
yup, time to get 1700x

>>59336708
I can understand the graph just fine. The point is that it doesn't even come close to what a vast majority of benchmarks show, yet you post something completely different with zero explanation. So I ask you again, what is this supposed to be?

>>59329382
wow

>>59336797
dis nigga is literally saying DELET by euphemisms.

http://www.legitreviews.com/one-motherboard-maker-explains-why-amd-am4-boards-are-missing_192470

Intel shat on AMD's parade without even meaning to. To come out of inertia does take a lot of effort.
>Also, in January and February, all board vendors’ production lines were occupied with Intel 200 series boards before Chinese New Year and tried to ship as much boards as we can to ensure we won’t have stock issues while Asia was on New Year vacation.
(transl. we never really gave a rats ass to whatevs AMD was doin').

>>59337098
gotta prioritize what comes out first

>>59337098
>In general, it’s been too long for AMD to launch a new CPU, so they forgot how to do it, so they launched the CPU just like they were launching the graphics card. They didn’t care about the platform eco-system, so the eco-system is suffering and stock is delayed.
(transl. I'm an Asus ROG team engineer, you know, A-S-U-S R-O-G, I'm a lill bitch that hates AMD and its tots their fuck up to make me work this close to the holidays. All of the issues plaguing Ryzen's launch that under our complete control and direct responsability have nothing to with us. We good bitches. AMD bad. sigh~)

>>59337170
no wonder ASUS boards were the worst

>>59337098
>>59337170
>We are flying in new batches every 3 days to try to fulfill the back orders ASAP, so they should be all back in stock soon. With all the board reviews released, per Newegg and Amazon, the AMD memory limitation issue is slowing down the sales though.
(transl. Seriously, now we're doing overtime trying to have a consumer base that was surprisingly way higher than our queen-bitch was expecting not hate us to our bankrupcy, and fuck AMD, who they think they are, Intel? Shit I had to cancel my manicure twice since this launch. And the bios revision are still shit partially copy pasted from the glorious z270 code. This is not our, technically we're the ones doing it, but it's AMD fault. I'll say again A-M-D, why couldn't they have launched somethign more similar to intel, now we have to work for real. Do they take me to be an fresh out of college intern? argh~)

>>59329382
thanks for correcting the record

>>59337292
>the AMD memory limitation issue is slowing down the sales though.
everyone blames motherboard manufacturers though, is he in fantasy world?

>>59337098
>be Intel
one motherboard vendor shits on their launch this badly, they'll fuck it up sideways till complete anihilation in such a horrible way that their former employees will become thankful when they finally can fade out into oblivion, peacefully.

>be AMD
every single motherboard vendors fucks it up.
well, that's just... what do?

That off-the-record fag is unarguably a lill bitch trying to shift blame in order to save her own delicately thin neck, if I ever saw one.

>>59337098
Summary: WHY IS AMD BEING COMPETITIVE AGAIN THIS ONLY INCREASES MY WORKLOAD REEEEE

>>59337254
I said asus because I'm picture them to be faggier than the others. But the contact is most likely from MSI, it gets glaringly obvious at the end of the article)

>>59337535
Lets just hope MSI has gotten somewhat competent again with their VRM designs. Their AMD boards had a very well-earned reputation for going up in flames at the slightest provocation.

>>59330893
>>59330981
P67 owner here, launch board fried my hdd, had to mail it back. SATA 3 fucked.
Get new B3 revision, front panel USB 3.0 still not working right (as of WIN 10 front not working at all). No display after sleep issues until many updates later. GPU compatibility problems.

I hated it.

>>59337098
the best thing out of this article was that everyone was assuming that the Titanium boards had a bclk gen - probably simply because it was more expensive than the Aorus and Taichi. It's there in all letters for all too see that it doesn't.

There's literally no reason to justify purchasing the most expensive AM4 Mobo now.

>>59337612
asrock apparently good now, going to look b350 way at it first

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>>59329382
Someone add kosher sign next to intel stake

I swear this anti-AMD posting is drastically more offensive than the pro-AMD

and finally compare to the tone from AMD's guy

>“Obviously, there are different options to enable overclocking; multi and voltage adjustment, also reference clock. One of the ways the MB guys can differentiate their product lines is the inclusion of ref clock adjustment. With X370, B350, and X300 all offering overclocking the ODMs want to differentiate their product lines. Now that the MB guys see how beneficial and desirable ref clock adjustment is, I expect all the motherboard makers to release models to stay competitive.

(transl. no harm done, they'll get to it eventually) [but he sounds like that because it's a freaking mine field and he knows that he's a small dog that really should keep his head a bit low among the other dogs that are almost as big, if not bigger, than he himself].

>>59337653
Yes, surprisingly enough ASRock has gotten their shit together and has gone from a shit-tier board manufacturer between ECS and BioStar to someone competent. Gigabyte on the otherhand has gone to shit. Shame too, their LGA 1366 and 775 boards were some of the best in the biz.

>>59337629
>had a bclk gen
apparently you don't need it for RAM OC
ryzen has internal module that does it according to Stilt
high end boards are useless for ryzen if you don't need much I/O

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-16

>>59337708
do you think motherboard guys angry at AMD for cheap chipsets they make lesser margins off or happy for cheap chipsets that they make higher margins off?

>>59337765
it's said that their profit margins are higher on AM4 boards than on intel. The Taichi is a perfect example, being at 200 dollars for both Am4 and z270. There's no royalties for thunderbolt or other propietary things, crossfire/sli or other minor trademarks are par for the course already, and the boards themselves are simpler since most of the i/o has migrated into the cpu. They undoubtely can make more on the Am4, in this case.

>>59334221
Moving the goalposts as always

Just wait until the next release you guys, THEN AMD will blow Intel away!

And if it doesnt, surely the one after that will do the trick!

>>59337889
>forgetting Nehalem
At least fucking try, Ramesh.

>>59337765
>>59337887
another one, optane has already been licensed for the z270. More cost in royalties. Can't recall of what else now, though.

>>59337713
Even if you don't really need it (or it may be proven further down the road that it's actually worse to have them taking control from the cpu), the mobos that had it stood apart from the flock.

through refined code or better hardware, it stands to getter good improvements. let's face it, they set the bar real low in this launch. Fine Wine will become an undying meme after this.

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As an American, I rarely regret eating fast food.

Jack in the Box's tacos are godly.

>>59338024
>it stands to getter good improvements
no idea what I was trying to type. I think I was going to say it stands to only get better but, ...ah, who cares.

>>59338095
It's not real meat though. Soy based or something, yuck.

>>59329382
I use a AMD A10-5800K. My computing needs are pretty modest, I've never regretted it.

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>>59329382
>>59329430
>>59331264
>>59333669
Gamer dudes, dudettes. When it comes to keeping your CPU at peak performance, oh the games people play. REALLY. A lot of you game assassins seem to think that Intel alone is gonna get you to the victory lane, as you go leaping from level to level, room to room, and world to world! With little or no Shilling.

>Asus released a new bios today that doesn't brick its boards.

tots AMD fault guise.
They're total hacks who can't put out a product that can't handle the most basic tasks which they are supposed to perform. Take the brand new Asus Crosshair VI, for instance, with our patented EZ bios utility flash, upgrading your bios have never been easier. All you need to do is... not brick it in the process. And we don't. not anymore. We think. Fuck AMD, I swear. We'll get back after we hit our forums to run a new batch os statistical analisys on bitching customers and we'll let you know if it worked this time around. Bye for now.

Both give you ass cancer

>>59334671
Socket change a year keeps goyim in fear

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>>59329382
I wonder who could be behind such a thread

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>>59329635
>imagine being at computers so fat you look and see food
what