>null customization/control over your O.S >spyware+addware

gayms

>>59315661
I can press F for cinematic experience

>>59315661
It works well for me. It's a great experience.

Just works
Fast, no lag (unlike Xorg)
Thumbnails in file picker
Great file manager
Looks nice
etc.

>customization
virgin detected
>ugly as fuck
subjective
>bloated
less bloated than 7
>"""spyware"""
only criminals care about that

>>59315661
>>spyware+addware at kernel level
Not possible.
No one at MS even knows how NT works anymore.

>>59315661
>>null customization/control over your O.S
Only autistic people care about that, normal people just want something that works.

>>spyware+addware at kernel level
Prove it. Telemetry is not spyware.

>>ugly as fuck
Not an argument.

>>bloated
Not an argument.

>>59315782
xorg doesn't have lag

>>59315794
>>59316067
>LEAVE MICROSOFT ALONE!!!

>>59316069
Drag a window around :)

Vidya u dumbfuck

>>59315782
>Fast
What did he mean by this?

Macbook pro with retina display does not have this problem.

My only problem is package count.
Fucking Skype for Linux beta doesn't have screen-sharing. It's even fucking web-based.

If there were a functioning package for Skype and muh gaymes on Steam, I would switch.

>>59316083
Yeah no lag, I knew that already.

You're not one of those guys who tried slackware 10 years ago and bases his assumptions on that experience are you? Because it sure sounds like you are.

>>59316114
>Yeah no lag, I knew that already.
But that's wrong. The windows lag when moved around, like most things in Xorg. That's one of the reasons Wayland even exists.

Why do Linux users like to pretend these problems don't exist?

It's a great free operating system, but it still has flaws.

>finally uninstalled Classic Start Menu and embraced the metro windows 10 start screen because it's a hassle to configure third party programs every time i reinstall windows

enabled animations system wide aswell

>>59316168
>The windows lag when moved around
No they don't. Why do windows users pretend they know about linux problems? What ancient forumpost have you been reading mate?

Yes it has flaws, like anything, but lag while moving windows isn't one of them. And hasn't been in the approximately 7 years I've been using it.

>>59315661
compatible with software needed in most jobs

Games, best hardware support, niche apps for businesses, greatest market share outside of /g/'s echo chamber.

Use Windows 10 LTSB. Wow now you can enjoy working a job, playing games, and being a conceited asspie who still gets to go around letting everyone know how special snowflake and unique his OS is.

>>59316300
>best hardware support
>literally nothing works without downloading and installing a driver from the manufacturer's site
>meanwhile literally everything just werks on GNU
>greatest market share
>implying personal computing is the only market
Did you know that even microsoft employees go out of their ways to not use windows? They unironically rather use macs with windows vms.

>>59315661

You can open create .docx files which your family can open as well.

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>>59316367
Pffffffft oh god oh god im actually dying here. No joke this is the first time someones post has given me an actual chuckle, usually its just a big grin. Imagine being as retarded as you, holy shit.

>>59316300

>best hardware support,

You must be joking nigger. Windows is entirely dependent on an internet connection to Microsoft to get your hardware to work.

>>59316300
>best hardware support
And another one who clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

What's up with winshills using 20 year old arguments?

>>59316498
Get Adobe Premiere CC working in Linux.

>>59316567
>He doesn't know the difference between hardware and software.

Kek, typical winshill.

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>>59315661

It just werks. Linux is only good if you operate it over a terminal. Of course, OS X is the best of the 3 :^)

>>59316591
I admit I missed that. Hardware-wise, you are quite correct, Windows is at a disadvantage due to needing to download drivers from the manufacturer's site or from a CD. I don't think Linux has trouble automatically giving me a network connection for example.

>>59315661
You can actually do things without needing to curl google for help every five seconds.

>>59316628
Can you please explain what benefits OS X has? Windows has software. Linux has freedom. OS X has neither.

>>59315661
Works well, not ugly, plays games.

Honestly only idiots say it's bad.

>>59316644
It's nice to use. I looks good, is smooth and just works even better. I use it at work with various VMs and SSHs.
OS X is the best option for browsing, taking notes, office shit.

>>59316111
>>59316168
>>59316208
>>59316567
>>59316628
>>59316630
>>59316644
GNU/Linux*

Linux is just a kernel, commonly used in operating systems such as GNU or Android.

>>59316644
>Linux has freedom
Contrary to popular belief, the Linux kernel from kernel.org is not free software. It not only recommends non-free software but also actually contains it (i.e., software that does not respect your essential freedoms).

>>59315661
tons of software
driver support
ease of use
games
non-autistic gui
non-autistic configuration

>>59316630
You're right, it doesn't.

Honestly the only thing windows has over linux is software availability. If you need windows games or some other windows only software, linux isn't gonna help you. For literally anything else though, linux is superior. It's easier (and so much fucking quicker) to install, it's easier and quicker to update, it's faster, it's easier to use, installing new things is easier (and safer if you install from repos, which is 95% of the time the case), it's more customizable, it doesn't spy on you, better hardware support, better filesystem, it's free, better support, better community. I honestly can't think of a single thing besides software availability that windows does better.

>>59316567

If you provide source we probably can.

>>59316755
In other words, more software is available. That's literally the only argument you have. And it says absolutely nothing about windows quality, only its popularity. (and yes, those two are completely unrelated)

>>59316067
>Prove it. Telemetry is not spyware.
>litreally has a keylogger built in
>not spyware
lol ok

>>59316567

Adobe not compiling for GNU/Linux is not GNU/Linux' fault.

>>59315661
It can play crysis

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>>59316067
>Telemetry is not spyware.

>>59316795
tons of software
driver support
>ease of use
games
>non-autistic gui
>non-autistic configuration

A lot of the things I 'need' a Windows install for in uni can actually be run directly through wine. The only things I have trouble with are things that require access to any of ports but a VM works for those

besides games im doing just fine with pure linux

ADMIT IT poorfags
you like Linux only because its kinda free

>>59316843
>ease of use
Is just wrong. Linux is objectively easier to use.

>non-autistic gui
>non-autistic configuration
These are your opinion and not worth going in to. I do disagree of course.

>>59316809

>>59315661
>spyware+addware at kernel level

Ummm, in all fairness, those are probably not implemented in the kernel.

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Windows
>Made by the biggest tech company on the planet owned by the richest guy alive
>Thousands of experiences, well-paid programmers spend hundreds of hours each on making it
>HAHAHA POOJEET XD actually only 10% of the people that touch operating system code are Indian

Linux
>Made by some faggot who was butthurt about Windows costing too much at the time
>Like ten guys (most of them shitskins) that are too poor to afford a real OS fucking around on a github repository and then expect other people to use what they shit out
>USE LE TERMINAL XDD WE CAN'T PROGRAM FRONT-END BECAUSE WE ARE RETARDED

Hmmmm. Which one of these would I, a discerning first-worlder that has some disposable income, prefer?

>>59316888
>IT poorfags

every good developer/engineer is using linux or OSX with linux based tools

>>59316208
>No they don't. Why do windows users pretend they know about linux problems? What ancient forumpost have you been reading mate?
I think he means screen tearing.

>>59316955
That also doesn't happen though.

Adobe CC suite + games

>>59316893
>Is just wrong. Linux is objectively easier to use.
This is wrong both for complete computer illiterates and for somewhat savvy people. Unless you provide a bi fucking manual. Software center is a joke in most distros, including even leading ones like ubuntu. It either oes not work, or is slow.There was problem installing this and that. Permissions and updates get fucked up. Audio does not work properly out of the box. File managers are a mess.
Only thing that works is console. And i's not easy to use. Its completely unforiving inut mistakes. You have to 100% know what you want from it, and possibly have another computer or smartphone nearby to google for answers because xorg has died or wifi suddenly dissapeared.

>non-autistic gui
>non-autistic configuration

windows control panel is godly. Everything is laid out in intuitive way. Resolutions, keymaps, battery plans, notifications.

in linux however you may have only half of those options, simple things like tweaking UI is a separate package in gnome. How fucked up is that?
Either you are lucky enough to find a configurable file by going though that thick manual of yours,or you have to recompile your own shit. Which is crazy.

>>59316980
>That also doesn't happen though.
It's still happen if you use something like xfwm with Intel drivers, but not with modesettings driver.

>>59316997
Plus bash on windows.

>>59316939
because it's free to deploy on multiple devices and most they need is a text editor and compiler

>>59316933
Windows
>made by huge and inefficient corporation
>literally house an NSA office in their building
>make you pay for being their product
>riddled with backdoors and other vulnerabilities that microsoft intentionally leaves in

Linux
>made by techies
>no privacy invading spyware
>Is free for anybody to use, modify and distribute as they please
>when a vulnerability is found is patched in a day

Hmmmmm. Which one of these would I a sane person, prefer?

FTFY pajeet

>>59317035
no its because developing on unix-like platforms is much faster and easier to get working and you dont have to deal with bloated IDEs, ported compilers, and an awful window manager that isnt good for organizing workflows

didnt windows just get workspaces in win10? and you cant even change the keybinds for any of the things its WM does

All Linus's DE are shit.

>>59317045
Why are you americans so damn concerned about NSA? Are you afraid they will find something that makes you go to jail?

>>59317045
>L-linux is more secure gaise

Vault 7 disagrees.

>>59316690
Nah, Richard, its just Linux

>>59317065
idiots use DEs

all you need is a WM, literally anything is better

>>59315794
>>59316067
Rajesh, this is your manager. You'll have to do better than that or you can forget about getting paid this week.

>>59317076
these communists are afraid being caught for pirating media and downloading child porn

Its 2017.
You shitpost from your mobile and work from your desktop.

>>59317006
>This is wrong both for complete computer illiterates and for somewhat savvy people.
Nope, it's easier to use for both techies and tech illiterates like my 58 year old mother. (Source: she says so)

Software center either oes not work, or is slow. There was problem installing this and that. Permissions and updates get fucked up.
This never happened, you're either very stupid for messing up the most noob friendly thing ubuntu has, or you're a liar who makes up problems about an OS they never actually used.

>Audio does not work properly out of the box.
lolwat? Yes it does.

>File managers are a mess.
Nope, there's a shitton of them available, so not sure which one you're having trouble with, somehow I have a feeling the problem is you, not the filemanager.

>windows control panel is godly
More opinions, as I said before, not worth going into.

>>59317088
lol
linux foundation comment about this is was basically like:

OH! SENPAI NOTICED US! WE GOT RECOGNITION! ITS HAPPENING!

>>59317076
Not a yank, thank god. I'm not afraid of them, I know they invade our privacy. Privacy is essential for a functioning democracy, NSA are enemies of freedom.

>>59317088
>I haven't read the leaks.
I'm not surprised.

My camwhore and gpu drivers only work in Windows. Fuuuck

cons of windows:
not perfect

pros of windows:
less autism

>>59317088
>vault 7

You can check linux fixing vault 7 bugs. You will never know about windows.

And such comparisons are irrelevant. Everyone writes malware for the popular system because there are more targets. That makes windows the best choice for malware attacks - especially as most computer illiterate people use windows and thus all the easy victims are there.

>>59317088
>90% windows vulns and backdoors
>9% OSX and mobile vulns
>3 outdated linux vulns

LEENUX IS JUST AS INSECURE GUISE!!!! HAHHAHA FINLAND BTFO!!!

>>59317118
>Nope, it's easier to use for both techies and tech illiterates like my 58 year old mother. (Source: she says so)
it's easy for her because you still live in her basement and help her deal with it in return for foo and shelter

>This never happened, you're either very stupid for messing up the most noob friendly thing ubuntu has

How could I mess up freshly installed 16.04 for example ? If I weren't that lazy I would go out of my way to find a link where they admit having some problems at the moment in the forums.

with solution being killing software manager task in taskview (turn off turn on again, how 2017) or apt-get in terminal because gui is for noobs

>>59316690
Fag/You*

>>59317221
compared to market share it checks out

also member when linux mint official iso was replaced with malware?
that shit was hella funny, senpai!

>>59317231
>basement
No I actually installed linux for her because I moved to another country, and I knew linux would give her much less problems, saving me the fixing trips. Nice projection though.

>How could I mess up freshly installed 16.04 for example?
Only you could answer that lad.

>>59317252
>also member when linux mint official iso was replaced with malware?
I do, member how that has absolutely nothing to to with linux itself? Try harder child.

>>59317231
i gave my mother a shitty $300 netbook years ago with xubuntu installed and the only maintenance ive done is upgrade to latest LTS when i visited once and noticed she was running an old version and it still works flawlessly

and shes dumb as bricks she literally thinks evolution isnt real

>>59317318
>saving me the fixing trips
>fixing trips
Mang it's 2017 out there. Ever heard about vnc or shit?

>>59317326
you are a bad son

>>59317356
im a bad son for giving her an OS that fulfills her needs and doesnt break or have a chance of catching dumb mulware from bad browsing habits?

just admit youre fucking incompetent lmao, its alright we all had to start somewhere

>>59315661
it's not linux
i would change my os but there is nothing that i could use as a good windows alternative, linux likes to fuck shit up at random and i've had really bad experiences working on osx

>>59317356
You don't know my mom, trust me it's easier to come over and fox things than doing it remotely. Anyway, since I installed linux all has been good, literally 0 problems. She even managed to install something from the software center all by herself.

>>59317390
linux does not fuck shit up without user intervention, and all major distributions are pretty much idiot proof

unlike windows where you can literally lose progress through forced restarts while youre away from your pc

>>59317390
>linux likes to fuck shit up at random
No. Linux is famous for not doing that. The only way to fuck up linux is by doing it yourself.

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what are dependencies?

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s o f t w a r e s u p p o r t b o y
Literally the only reason why I use it
Isn't that after all the core principle of using a computer in the first place?

>>59317452
>doing it yourself
well you're right but who doesn't want to install firefox on his pc?
a couple years ago i had opensuse and i installed firefox on it, i don't even know what happened but a day after every single program that i installed was gone, it looked like installing firefox totally destroyed the package manager for no good reason
i had many other problems with linux too like screen tearing/flickering, no audio, huge lags, no drivers for my wifi, no drivers for my fingerprint scanner, random black screens for a couple seconds, something not working for no reason at all, some programs having no gui even if the windows version had one

>>59317567
and yes i've tried multiple gpu drivers, open source and closed source ones, nothing helped

>>59316690
GNU is just userland software, commonly used in operating systems such as Linux.

>>59317567
>who doesn't want to install firefox on his pc?
Firefox comes preinstalled in most distros, including openSUSE, in other words, you're full of shit. You're making up problems that you never had about an OS you never tried. GG pajeet, keep it up and you'll get a promotion soon.

>>59315661
actually very great os for a Live USB.

>>59315661
>Spyware

Did you miss the news? The CIA can comprimise literally any machine connected to the internet. EVERYTHING is a botnet. The war is already over. You lost. No point is using a placebo security timesink OS.

>>59317733
>Did you miss the news?
No, but you clearly did.

Funny how microshills call themselves techies but when actual technical details come out they avoid them like the plague.

>>59317789
>Doesn't cite any evidence
(You)

>>59317872
>Is the one making claims
>Blames others for not citing evidence

I guess you avoid logic too.

>>59317420
speaking about moms, linux preinstalled firecucks does not have flash support for facebook games

>>59318052
>support for facebook
My mom is tech illiterate, she's not a fucking pleb.

>>59318052
>linux preinstalled firecucks does not have flash support
It does if you tick the box when installing.

>>59318052
i set my mom up with chrome and made her put in her google account so everything she had on her old windows machine was synced

hassle free

>>59316067
Telemetry is software that spies on you.

>>59316183
This. Its pretty good and simple desu
Never seemed to have a problem with it
Upgraded from anniversary and didn't like the way it looked so I downgraded back

>>59315669
this

Microsoft is epitome of communism, everything people had to go through in soviet times you can relate to Windows features. Just for example:
1.People limited to costomizing their interface without 3rd party hacks - People in soviet times were limited to 2 types of wall paper and 3 types of rugs that looked very similar, expensive non toilet paper quality wallpaper from East Germany was a rarity.
2.Zero privacy, except if you never connect to the internet - People in soviet times only had some sort of privacy because lack of technology back then, but all international calls were recorded, patrol with dogs on beaches at night, you would get a visit from a slight suspision of activism.
3.Windows marketshare abuse, Microsoft knows it has upper hand on some consumer software compaired to linux up until now, so they force people to upgrade to windows10, ending support on security updates for w7 and other versions early, knowing exactly some people rely on stuff like photoshop and sony vegas - Same way the soviet union only provided you with shitty TV's that you had to smack from time to time just to make it work again, knowing exactly that people have no other choice.
4.Security holes. Microsoft has so many security holes due to their poor structure and closed source code - Just like in soviet times, despite obvious corruption and people stealing meat and clothes from the workplace, nothing was done because the issue was so big it was accepted.

>>59315782
>great filemanager
>no tab support
try again

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>>59315661
wideogaymes,,sir
lotsanlots of wideogaymes
wideogaymes are grate use of tiem,,sir
learn to stuff wif wideogaymes and buttons like x, square, y, shoulder buttans,,,sir
wif wideogaymes you can spend you're hole life doing nuffin just sit front of screen and scream and mash all buttons,,,sir

>>59315782
>Thumbnails in file picker
>Great file manager

Are those memes still active?

>>59316367
>meanwhile literally everything just werks on GNU

M8

>>59319058
Yep, winshills are still using decade old arguments.

>>59316888

ADMIT IT paheet
you like Windows only because it comes preinstalled

>>59316888
ADMIT IT poojeet
you like windows only because you're too dumb to install linux

>>59319084
>trips vs singels
your a looser

>>59317014
I'm using xfwm and intel, no tearing here lad. Maybe 5 years ago.

>>59315661
You can run anything on it. If a program doesn't have a Windows version it doesn't exist.

Power management is better than any other OS on 95% of hardware.

It's ugly but less ugly than any L*nux DE.

Ridiculously stable. You have to actually try to fuck things up for your Windows install to break (unlike L*nux).

>>59320061
I meant reliable instead of stable.
W10 is still pretty stable.

>>59315700
RESPECT PAID

>>59315661
>What are the pros
The fact that it's not on my machine.

>>59315721
>great experience
How not to shill, people. No real human would claim that running Windows 10 is a "great experience."

>>59315669
Windows 7 exists.

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So is there a way to actually stop MS spying on you on windows 10?

>>59318387
This is what you would call a monopoly in capitalism.

>>59321663
No, don't be stupid.

>>59321780
So absolutely no way for privacy without dual booting?

>>59321835
Just stop playing games anon. Then you will be allowed privacy.

>>59321872
I just can't anon. The world is such a boring place without gaymes.

>>59321883
Linux supports 33% desktop PC games, not counting ones accessible via WINE/PlayOnLinux. Just abandon the remaining 70%.

>>59316789
>https://firedrop.com/30a7fc12a4abe092

Not him, but if you want to work on software to prove it work in GNU/Linux, try this out. It is a game from 1998 with DirectDraw being required in a lot of places. The version I linked is version 1.14 European, which has a painting at the beginning of the training level that the patched version does not have. Using third party patches like NewDark also eliminates this. My question is if you can get 1.14 working without needing to change the game files. You can use DirectDraw wrappers, but you may not modify the resource files so it has modern stuff like 32 bit.

If you can pull this off, I will replace my Windows system and gladly bash Windows users. /g/ood luck and /g/odspeed my /g/nu linux warriors!

>>59317160
You expected him NOT to read the TOS of Windows but read the leaks? You give Windows users too much credit.

>>59315661
You need it because the monopoly forces you to. Otherwise fuck that huge steaming piece of crap.

>>59315782
>Fast
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

>>59317045
>Hmmmmm. Which one of these would I a sane person, prefer?


The one with actual software?

>>59322160
>actual software?
kek, you just mean gaymes don't you anon? You just want to play your anime gaymes and call it 'actual software' to not be ridiculed.

>>59322218
go to
>>59317481


Some people actually use the computer to work instead of living to shitpost on windows threads about stuff they can't have

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I just installed in in a VM, bretty comfy

>>59315782
>>59315794
>>59316067
>>59316662

ITT: Winbabbys that are so butthurt that they can't use linux or afford a mac that they feel the need to justify which OS they use.

>>59316933
>>Made by some faggot who was butthurt about Windows costing too much at the time
>>Like ten guys (most of them shitskins) that are too poor to afford a real OS fucking around on a github repository and then expect other people to use what they shit out
>>USE LE TERMINAL XDD WE CAN'T PROGRAM FRONT-END BECAUSE WE ARE RETARDED

Literally not a single one of these is true. Your points about MS are valid, so why didn't you just stop before you proved yourself to be an ignorant shill?

>>59319071
I'm a linfag but tbf if decade old arguments are still relevant then why not? Light a fire under the F(L)OSS devs.

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>>59315661
Muh Gaming.

>>59323972
>if decade old arguments are still relevant
>if
Right, but they're not.

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>>59317481

Other then the glaring piracy issues windows 10 is a good OS

>>59315782
>Just werks
After ten hours of registry hacks to disable it's bullshit, and even then you can only disable it partially

>Fast
Slower than Windows 7

>muh thumbnails
what is any Windows after ME, what is Mac OS, etc etc

>Great file manager
Objectively wrong

>Looks nice
Subjectively wrong

>>59324111
On most Linux distros you'll need to use the terminal to unfuck dependencies at some point, and that's not something granny can do.

>>59324946
>On most Linux distros you'll need to use the terminal to unfuck dependencies at some point

Only if you fucked with it in the first place, something granny doesn't do. I've never even had to do that, except on arch, what a shitshow.

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>>59315661
>pros
>windows10

>>59316114
no lag, but the rip and tear gets me assblasted. Hopefully Wayland turns out far better.

>>59316367
>meanwhile literally everything my 3 wireless cards just werks on GNU
>meanwhile literally everything my GPU not tearing just werks on GNU
>meanwhile literally everything my volume control just werks on GNU
>meanwhile literally everything my mechanical keyboard just werks on GNU
fuck windows I'd take shit breaking on me any day over Microsoft's heavy handed bullshit, but let us be reasonable here.

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>>59316083
ok

>>59325352
>cpu utilization 97%

>>59325370
that's all hardware accellerated

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>>59315661
Gaming and compatibility. Nothing else though unless you like OS integrated ads, two separate UI paradigms, and the worse update system I've ever seen.

Also """"enhanced telemetry"""" from a company known for NSA Key and for being one of the first to join PRISM. Good luck with that.

I pretty much assume anyone defending windows 10 is either a shill or completely inept at this point. Windows 7 will be my last microsoft OS.

>>59321663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI

You could try going for a headless GPU rig if you have hardware that supports it (CPU+Motherboard with Vt-x and Vt-d support, check if your integrated GPU and dedicated GPU don't conflict and support Vt-d). It won't stop the spying but at least help mitigate it.

Took me a few days to figure it out, found this guide quite helpful in setting up QEMU+KVM. https://www.evonide.com/non-root-gpu-passthrough-setup/

You could use Virt-manager GUI frontend (similar to dealing with virtual box) instead of scripting if that scares you but you have to at least follow the guide until the dedicated GPU gets blacklisted first otherwise you won't be able to pass it through to the VM.

Managed to get it up and running with an i7 4790 and GTX980, but I've read of people managing with even lower end hardware.

Then you can run windows in a VM assign it a GPU to play your vidya and piss off back to linux host when done. The performance is pretty damned close if you set it up properly, haven't stress tested my setup, haven't encountered any issues so far. If anything EDF4.1 does not lag at the lobby anymore for some reason.

If you want your dedicated GPU on host then Nvidia would not be the way to go, I've heard of some people managing to unbind and rebind their GPUs back to host with AMD. You could just install another linux virtual machine and assign it the dGPU.

Generally you set the integrated GPU to the host, black list the dedicated GPU and pass it to whatever VM you want to open. Most games are GPU intensive so you won't notice any performance loss unless you've done something horribly wrong.

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I'm okay with this botnet.

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The best feature of Windows 10 is that you can use it to download Ubuntu

>>59325643
out now!
>bloated OS
>adware
>botnet
>integrated bloated distro

WASTE YOUR HDD SPACE IN THE NEXT 10 MINUTES AND GET A FREE BLUESCREEN FOR FREE!

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>>59321598
getting proper Windows 7 soon got a free copy from a friend

I dont plan on ever migrating to windows 10 unless its on a laptop I buy later or something

What are the pros over 7 exactly? I'm pretty comfortable navigating 7, it feels smooth and pretty much does everything I need it to, playing games and stuff like that

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Oh, look - de/g/enerates are at it again.
Where are my ads?

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>>59315782
>great file manager
kek

>>59325752
I'm late as all fuck but I'll answer this.

In general games run better on Windows 10 than on Windows 7. By better I mean games on Windows 10 get 1-5 more FPS on average than those on 7.

The cons are the spyware and adware shit. Stuff like Candy Crush is automatically downloaded and installed when you install Windows 10, and the Xbox app has a recording feature that has to be disabled in the registry since it can fuck up the FPS of many games. There are many cons. If you cut out all the bloat you can and just use the OS for gaming it's okay. If you plan on doing more stick with 7, or hell, even 8.1.

>>59325352
That's not dragging a window around you fucking retard.

>>59328553
did that terminal just move on its own, then?

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>>59328570
He's not used to moving windows around without having to click and hold on the titlebar.

I can resell my pc with windows on it.

>>59325558
>no more dual booting

Instead you need a computer with 2 GPUs

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

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>>59316933

>>59325352
what ur proving his point? look how far that window is behind the mouse

now resize ur browser lol

>>59315782
windows 10 lags like hell

>>59321944
>Just abandon
Or use fucking WINE?

>>59315661
>What are the pros?
windows api

>>59329567
>30fps

LOL

>>59315661
>null customization/control over your O.S
ever heard of UltraUXThemePatcher?

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>>59315661
>ugly
it's the best looking windows yet. It looked its best at launch before the start menu update that forces the programs list to always be shown. Microsoft you piece of shit let me turn it off, I just use search to find programs i dont scroll through them

>>59316888
The trips have spoken
hit the painful spot as well

>>59331162
100% agreed.

>>59324906
>derp derp
>After ten hours of registry hacks to disable it's bullshit

download a readable reg file and deal with bullshit in 1 or 2 clicks

>slower than 7
highly debatable, maybe out of the box? aero is not helping either

>file manager/thumbnails
highly subjective, but out of the box it's the most decent experience yet

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>>59315782
>Great file manager
Cuckdows Explorer is lightyears behind Nemo. And Nemo isn't even the best one.

>>59331234
>lightyears
>completely copies design of an xp era explorer
>literally same names

yeah right

sudo nemo gel temp

>>59331234
>copies design
>xp era explorer
gr8 b8 m8

Try mounting a SSHFS mount point with WIndows Explorer in W10.
Try mounting any virtual file systems.
Try creating files with a leading dot.
Try creating files that contain a colon character.
Try viewing your files without embedded ads (even on W10 "Enterprise").
>Thumbs.db
>File name extensions hidden by default

I can go on with this till the end of time

>>59331162
Join Insider, leave a suggestion - if people like it, they'll upvote it and MS might implement the option.

>>59331575
I dont think the average schmuck will pay much attention to aesthetic suggestions. In my experience those types of inquiries always have some faggots in the comments saying "Why?" "It works fine as is" or some other stupid shit

>>59331624
Transparent start menu and taskbar were implemented due to people asking for them - that's purely aesthetics.

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>>59315805
fuck, now I sprayed my screen with coffee.

>>59315661
None.
Dualboot Gentoo and XP

>>59331000
Inferior performance.

>>59331506
Are you autistic? Serious question.

>>59315661
Cheap, gaymin and productive.

What more do you need from a computer?
Start fucking girls

>>59315661
You can resize two side to side windows and they will both resize automatically.
That's about it

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>>59325752
Of you really want dx12. Most games can't even use it right now. Stick to 7.