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>spend thousands of dollars on PC Hardware >sit in front

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>spend thousands of dollars on PC Hardware
>sit in front of a cheap < $150 monitor for hours

why are people this retarded? shouldnt the screen be one of your main concerns, right after the CPU and GPU?
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Agreed
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>>59274624
Screen hardware is on steroids at the moment so its hard to know when the right time to drop $1000+ on something really good will be
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Sorry for the hijack but since we're talking about monitors here, would a 27" one be too big considering I'm going to sit just tad over 2 feets away from it?
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>>59274624
>Not using a CRT you got at a yard sale for $5
Get off of my /g/
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>>59274767
depends on the resolution obviously
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>>59274624
>spend thousands of dollars on PC Hardware
>uses $1 power cables
>keyboard cost less than $25

Why live
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Anyone who does this is an idiot. I design a system around the screen. The resolution and refresh rate dictates the GPU based on the customers choice of games, and to a lesser extent also the CPU depending on whether the games they play are CPU intensive. This then dictates all other components in the build.

So for example someone wants a 3440x1440 75hz screen to play AAA titles on, I'm going to recommend a gtx1080 and a 6700K. 1080P gets a 1060 or 480. You get my drift.
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Too scared I'll end up with dead pixels on a really expensive monitor.
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>>59274767
It's fine
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>mfw the total cost of my monitors exceeds most /g/anoomen's total build
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>>59274822
Yeah I know that anything below 1440p is a really bad idea for that size, what I was talking about the sheer size of the monitor, mostly because I've been using a tiny 19" for years so I've no idea just how big 27" would be relative to even 24"
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>>59274624
Because I'm poor :^(
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>tfw using a $500 monitor with a $1100 PC
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>>59274624
No
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>>59274849
(( Prebuilt )) maker
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>>59274794
but CRT are only great during winter
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>>59274624

Agreed

My system is build to accommodate my 34" 1440p 100hz ultra wide
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>>59274624
>$400 1440p monitor plugged into $200 thinkpad

truly this is redpilled
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>>59274767
It's fine. My 27" 1080p syncmaster just kicked it. Have a Asus 31.5" 1440p coming in tomorrow.
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I don't understand this either, my monitor ends up lasting me about 2 to 3 new builds,.

I've been rocking a 4K IPS monitor for years now.
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>>59274734
When 4K 144 Hz monitors drop this summer. I'm planning ahead and saving up. Can't wait to play the quality control lottery.
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>>59274870
>>59274971
Thanks, I guess I'll go for it.
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>>59275010
What about HDR and g/free sync
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>>59274624
Joke's on you, I'm sitting in front of a 55 inches HDR/Dolby Vision OLED TV
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The screen is the single most important piece of hardware for me. I could use a laptop CPU from 2012 without any real issues. Discrete GPUs are a meme if you aren't playing video games. SSD is a concern, but thankfully I can read and write around 2GB/s. What more could I ask for?
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>>59274624

>speccy thread on /v/
>GTX1080 owners of 60Hz monitors
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>>59275361
a therapist
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>>59274624
The problem is that it's a terrible time to buy a monitor, and has been for a couple of years now. Manufacturers are still dragging their feet on OLED and HDR, so unless you want to play the IPS lottery and return ten monitors before you get one with "acceptable" backlight bleed and glow, you're fucked.
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>>59274624
I wish I was as smart as you OP
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>>59274877
1080p is fucking fine on a 27" monitor.
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>>59274624
It's not my fault that people sell the best quality monitors ever made for under 50€.
And even if i only get about 2000x1500 resolution on my 4:3 CRT the image quality is still the best on the market.
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>>59274624
does it count if the actual msrp of my monitor is over $150 but i paid less for it?
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>>59275010
but then OLED comes out
but then QLED comes out
but then something that doesn't have shitty blacks and contrast levels of IPS comes out
actually just fuck IPS.
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>>59275413
High refresh rates are a meme
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>>59275507
That's really mean.
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>>59275361
Please share wallpaper.
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I can trick mommy into buying components because she doesn't understand them but not an expensive televison
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>>59275840
Pedophile scum.
https://files.catbox.moe/3mx721.jpg
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>>59275307
how can monitors even compete with tvs nowadays?
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>>59274624
>shouldnt the screen be one of your main concerns

I kept saying this to the management at work.

We had engineers who worked on vital software and were paid close to $100k per year using a pair of old 19-inch monitors that aren't even HD. I told them that every engineer should be working with a pair of monitors that are each at least 24 inch HD.
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>actually spending money on your computer
>not just picking up random hardware you find laying in the street and buying essential items

It's almost like you like being poor.

Pic related, got of the hardware and peripherals for free.
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I have a U3014 and I all I do is browse 4chin
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>>59274624
Bought a $640 Samsung 32inch monitor that's at 1440p.
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Bought a samsung CF791 and returned it because I felt it wasn't worth $1k.

Now using a korean monitor 32" 1440p 10-bit SMVA+ panel /w freesync
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>>59276892
That's nice, but for specialized tasks a computer with better hardware may need to be utilized. It's not a detriment to have better hardware if you can afford it.
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Who /u2312hm/ here?

By far the best purchase I have ever made. Already been using it for 5 years and it's still as good as the day I took it out of the box.
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>>59274624
>$2800 pc
>$1200 monitor
i got so hecking sick of having an older TN display with a new pc. i loved it for a long time but there'd been better hardware for a long time by the time i bought the PG348Q, which is a fantastic monitor.

i save nothing for buying furniture however. i'm not looking at any of it most of the time so it doesn't matter.
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>Dell P2414h
Is there any reason to buy something other than Dell monitors
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>monitors

Looking to buy pic related later this year. Is there anything obviously wrong with this setup?
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>>59276372
>how can monitors even compete with tvs nowadays?

By having drastically higher PPI.
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>>59274624
I'm actually looking to get a new monitor. Does this seem good, /g.?

https://www.amazon.com/VG248QE-1920x1080-144Hz-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B01DDR0FE2/ref=pd_sbs_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00B2HH7G0&pd_rd_r=3TWV9D7ATTNGAY3ET4NH&pd_rd_w=kEim8&pd_rd_wg=zESmf&refRID=3TWV9D7ATTNGAY3ET4NH&th=1

I don't want a huge monitor or resolution beyond 1080p.
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LCDs are all fucking garbage. It's not worth spending money on a "good LCD monitor" with motion blur and IPS glow out the ass.

I'm going to wait for OLED TVs to come down in price a bit and then never look at an LCD again for as long as I live hopefully.
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>>59278555
put a 55 inch TV 6 feet away from you and it might as well be a 27 inch monitor 3 feet away from you.
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This is why I like the Macbook Pro with Retina Display
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>>59278571
This, OLED looks amazing
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>>59278603

I'd rather just use a desk with a high PPI, color calibrated monitor sitting on it.
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>>59274877
It's a pretty big difference. I was using a 24" forever and switched to a 30" 16:10 monitor. Took a little while to get used to the size. So much screen real estate.
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>>59274876
Feel good?
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Thoughts on just buying a high end 4k TV as monitor on a workstation pc?
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>>59275267
They should have HDMI 2.1 which supports its own adaptive refresh rate tech anyway
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>>59278731
How high end? Because the only 4K TVs you should be considering are OLED.
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So do you guys use DisplayPort 1.2 or HDMI?
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My hundred dollar asus monitor is pretty good though, especially when calibrated and overclocked to 75hz
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>>59276372
Input lag is a pretty big deal with TVs. I'm not a twitch gamer so I don't really care that much about normal desktop monitor lag, but the vast majority of TVs have REALLY terrible lag, sometimes even in their supposed "game mode." So bad that it's annoying even when doing something as mundane as shitposting on /g/.

Also, cheap TVs are shit as monitors, so you're basically looking to either spend a lot of money on a really good monitor or spend lots of money on a really good TV.

Nothing below an LG UH8500 or Samsung KS8000 has 4:4:4 Chroma at 60 Hz, which is the bare minimum for desktop monitors since the early 2000's, and those are $1000 and up TVs (although I got a 55" one for $700 on black friday last year, but even then, $700 can go a long way in the monitor world). Even at 4k, 4:4:4 is a pretty big deal for desktop use.

>>59278571
>>59278634
The B6/C6 55" have dipped to $1400 occasionally in the past year, which is pretty fucking good. That's really no more expensive than a really big, really high end desktop monitor, which still looks like shit next to an OLED. But again, as stated above, input latency is not great, even by my watered down standards. This is especially true for the vast majority of OLED TVs.

Also, putting some TVs in game mode does come with an image quality cost. Why would there be a game mode that magically reduces latency if it didn't have some sort of penalty? If it did not have a trade-off, it wouldn't be called game mode, it would be just a standard feature in all of that TV's modes.

Still, if you got the money, I doubt you'd be displeased with an OLED.
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Why is 144Hz more common than 120Hz?
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>>59278781
Anyone who uses a good TV as a monitor is going to be using HDMI because TV manufacturers and the industry is retarded.
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>>59278881
It became a meme first just like 4k over 1440p
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>>59275735
>but then QLED comes out
QLED is a poor man's OLED. OLED was, is, and will continue to be superior to QLED.

QLED is basically Samsung's butthurt damage control marketing to try to convince retards that that they can finally compete against OLED after years of getting stomped in the high end (even though they're still not even in the same league).

It's kind of funny though, OLED is and will continue to be the king of super high end, but in the realm of non-OLED, Samsung destroys LG just as hard with their KS8000/KS9000 series vs. LG's mediocre UH8500/UH9500.
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>>59275821
Sorry.
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>$900 on pc
>$2300 on monitors
sounds about right
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>>59278881
divisible by 24

so in other words the ass backwards "cinema" industry is influencing bad standards, again
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My PC is worth probably like $2k if I had to buy everything new again. My monitor I got for $600. Was originally $800. 32" Samsung 1440p. Amazing stand and 4 port USB 3.0 hub. I don't plan on moving up from this until 4k is becoming as common as 1080p and/or 4k IPS 60hz over HDMI is standard enough to be sub $500 for a good IPS OLED panel.
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>>59278985
forgot the "and not by 30", cause they hate that shit
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>>59278985
But 120 is divisible by 24 as well, and has the added benefit of being divisible by 60
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>>59278985

Film looks retarded at 60fps
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What are some good 4k monitors?
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>>59274624
>plays games at 60fps on good ol 720p monitor
>gets le bigass monitor
>40fps
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I'm using a 24" Dell 1920x1080 TN panel I bought back in 2010 and a 23" Dell 1080p LED TN panel I bought a year later; debating retiring the former since it's getting old even if it still works beautifully.
Are there any major breakthroughs in monitor technology I can expect, or should I replace it now?

Also if you had to pick from this list what would you get; feel free to laugh at the prices:
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/category.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=dhs&cs=audhs1&category_id=7824&~ck=bt
Note: I could probably get (some of) that MR2416 medical unit's expense back in tax since I handle DICOM images at work but $1600 is still a shitload.
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>>59274624
Can confirm
screen > GPU > CPU > SSD > Mouse/keyboard > everything else
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>>59278985
>>59278998
>run 60Hz and 144Hz display
>60Hz is laggy as FUCK because the 144Hz are not divisible by 30
>have to put 144Hz monitor in 120Hz mode if I'm not playing games or the 60Hz becomes useless
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>spent $200 on PC Hardware
>paid $10 for used monitor w/ dead pixels, broken backlight and other issues
>less than $10 on both mouse and keyboard
>handcrafted all cables that weren't included
Is this an acceptable hardware:peripherals ratio?
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>>59274903
>tfw using a $1200 PC with 3 monitors, 2 of which are over 10 years old and one I picked up at a electronic recycling center for $50.

This thread reeks of monitor manufacturing shills.
One of my monitors quality is kinda annoying, the light bleed reaches like an inch along all 4 edges.
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>>59274767
I sit just one arm length away from my monitor. When I got the 27" it feels too big, so I went for a 23" instead.
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>>59276347
whats ur discord
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>>59280240
>handcrafted all cables that weren't included
How do you handcraft cables? Did you take copper and then create cables?
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>>59280223
>have 144hz monitor and 60hz monitor
>superior ulmb mode is only available for 120hz so i set it to that
>never have a problem and enjoy crisper images
heh
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>>59280333
I do that too, but not in this case.
Here it's just connecting plugs to cords to get the cables.
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>>59275735
>something that doesn't have shitty blacks and contrast levels of IPS
AMVA
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>buying an expensive rig and cheaping out to save less than 50$ with an ancient 144hz monitor like the GN246HL or VG248QE

Just asking for it

>Buying a DVI only 144hz monitor and cry foul when you can't run it with your HDMI laptop.

Remember to breathe so you don't die

>"GTX 1060 / RX480 can't run 1440p 144hz, you should NOT buy this monitor, REEEEEEE"

Because some cards can run ALL games at 1440p at a full 144fps. Retard

>"I'll buy GN246HL, not XG2401 like you suggest, because I have a GTX 1080 and this monitor is Freesync and Nvidia can't use Freesync".

Why do I even bother to live on this gay earth anymore?
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>>59274928
Yes, I make prebuilt systems for people who don't have the skills, knowledge or time to build their own.
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>>59280345
Luckily I have buttons on the screen to switch to configurable modes
>button 1 normal 120Hz
>button 2 Freesync 144Hz, strobing, 120% sRGB
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>>59274767
I went from a 24" to a 27" and it took a little while to get used to by after adjusting i'd say that i couldn't go back to anything smaller.
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would there be any downside to getting a 24" 1440p monitor instead of a 27"
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Tbh your Monitor should cost just as much if not more than your GPU.
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>>59280594
Smaller text and might need to scale. Tbh it would probably be fine though
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While we're on the topic of sitting in front of a PC monitor for hours

How do I combat eye strain? Are those computer sunglasses things useful or a scam?
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>>59280610

Sensible brightness levels, F.Lux, and a flicker / PWM free backlight
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What's the best upgrade from a 27" 1440p@60HZ IPS monitor?

The backlight bleed has started to give me cancer on any screen wtih anything supposedly black.

Ultrameme? I also have an nvidia card so I guess I need to pay up for goysync
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>>59274624
Let me know when OLED monitors happen since this was supposed to be the year of them or something.
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>>59280697
Dell was supposed release one last year but it's not happening

OLED's will go to shit in a year or two
Way more quickly on a monitor than on a TV
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>>59280705
What are screensavers?
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>>59280691

1440p 144hz or 4k 60hz. Gsync if you want to pay the tax.

Asus is supposed to be releasing a 4k 144hz monitor though.
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>>59280728
Where are good monitors from NEC and other proper manufacturers? Is the market now dominated by asus and acer and shit like that?
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>>59280728
Do any modern games run well enough to exploit 144hz at anything above 1080p anyways? Like this is a huge internal debate for me, I understand that a higher refresh rate as a whole is better, but I hate the idea of paying extra money for a panel when current, and likely next generation hardware can't even push it. And then features like free-sync and g-sync just piss me off even more because they're not perfect solutions and they commit you to one GPU mfg or the other to some extent. And with resolution I've dicked around with high ppi monitors and frankly they don't impress me, especially at smaller scales and the content is sorely lacking anyways so you end up making compromises with your scaling which isn't the worst thing ever, but it's certainly not a great thing and this applies to videogames and video media alike. And now it seems like there's a certain heat kicking up with aspect ratios where people are declaring 16:9, 16:10, and 21:9 are all the new kings while some oddballs are still content with their 4:3 panels. This will surely foster more neglect from the film industry, especially for what is my favorite, the 21:9 ratio. Basically, /g/ents, my heart is breaking and that's why I'm still using a laggy ass TV for literally everything.
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Is Freesync/G-sync worth the price? I don't think I ever noticed tearing unless pointed out in a video.
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What /g/ considers a good monitor:
>muh inches
>muh resolution
>muh pixel size
>muh Hz
>muh low response times

What actually constitutes a good monitor:
>color reproduction, stability and uniformity
>backlight uniformity
>individual factory calibration
>high bit LUT (preferably writeable for custom hardware calibration)
>wide gamut
>GBr backlight
>high PWM at low brightness levels
>high quality electronics (stable power circuits, overdrive circuits, uniformity compensation circuits etc.)

That's the reason why Eizo or NEC entry-level office models cost 3 times the price of your average battlestation thread meme display at half the resolution. And why their professional models cost an arm and a leg.
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>>59274876
Which monitor do you have?
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>>59274624
>Shouldn't the screen be one of your main concerns, right after the CPU and GPU?
No, because it doesn't improve performance in any way. RAM and storage is more important. But to each it's own. Personally I place great importance on RAM because I always have lots of shit open at once. Everyone is entitled to make their own choices.
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>>59281319
Also, GPU could be the last concern of someone who doesn't need it. Could be just as irrelevant as a sound card.
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Would 1080p be fine for 27" if I actually want things to be a little bigger? My glasses are heavily minus, so they make things slightly smaller.
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>>59280325
MisakaImouto#6140
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>>59280920
Varies from title to title. For example games like DOOM were very easy to cap fps on. But depending on your hardware, even getting to 100 fps is noticibally different, and that's when adaptive sync does it's part. Adaptive sync is awesome, but you're right Nvidia should just use Freesync instead of using their own proprietary modules.
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>>59274624
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You don't need to spend too much n a good monitor, I have some 250€ ultrasharp (the tfcentral reccomended one) and its fucking godlike
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I just went 3x 27" screens. Going to get the asus 4k 144hz when its out
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I have two $130 monitors currently. Sometime in the future when I have more income I would like two 1440p or 4K monitors.
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>>59284023

Does adaptative sync smooth out the stuttering when framerate drops or is its effect limited to screen tearing?
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>>59287025

It smooths it out. Especially on 60hz monitors this is really nice.

Tearing is easy to prevent, even without the usual V-Sync lag and framedrops. Just use Fast Sync with Nvidia, or force tripple buffering with d3doverrider with AMD. However, doing this will make the lack of smoothness even more pronounced when you fall below your refresh rate.
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>>59274847
You mean you don't make your cables out of sexy custom wire and to the length you need? Scum
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>>59284115
1080p will be a thing for years to come. It's sort of like the earlier days of 720p and 1080p. 4k, like 1080p in the past, is too expensive right now for the average consumer. So they go with the cheaper and more common option, before it was 720p and now that option is 1080p
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>>59278756
HDMI will use Adaptive Sync aka Freesync.
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>>59274876
Did you get that $4000 Eizo monitor?
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Monitor gods

is this a meme?

am I making a mistake?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C83BE6U/ref=psdc_1292115011_t1_B01LW5CGIS
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>>59291389
>that 1kg snail
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>>59291530
I can't have one in hawaii ;( The snail that is.
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>>59291530
Achatina achatina
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>>59280184
Anyone?
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Jokes on you I have a p2214h and a mid range computer that would not cost you $1000 to build.
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>>59280247
this post reeks of poor
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>>59274624
as long as it presents information acceptably for me to read and process with enough screen real estate and the color reproduction is within acceptable boundaries I really don't give a fuck

my computing is about the content and the work I'm doing, not jerking off to big numbers on my setup
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>>59274624
1080p 144hz is all I need for my X99 workstation anon. Multimonitor and 4k resolution are memes.
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>>59275785
They're nice, though. Especially with adaptive sync.
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>>59274624
>spend $1000 on a monitor that looks just as good as the $150 one the other guy bought
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U2715H and all I do is watch mongolian finger paintings, browse 4chins and League.
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>>59296283
feels good man
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Is 4k a meme for a 24" monitor?
Trying to decide between 1440p 144Hz and 4K60

I'll go with the 144 if it won't make a difference at that size.
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>>59275307

>The more ™ it has, the better!

™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™
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>>59275625
I said the same thing until I bought a 32 4k monitor , multitasking on it is so much better .
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>>59274624
I have a $400 LG IPS 4k monitor and a $300 NUC.
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>>59274624
This is the very reason why I bought my Dell UltraSharp U3415W PXF79. I haven't regretted it for a second.
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>>59274624
>spend 100k on a good monitor
>it looks the same as 150$ one because you're still giving it a shit input
Go away dell shills
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Help me out here /g/. I'm planning on buying parts to make a new build, but I know very little about monitors specifically. Can you me what is important, and how these impact my experience?
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>>59274876
>mfw the Microphone I use exceeds the cost of most /g/anoomen's builds
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Shopping for monitors is pretty difficult, its like, almost all of them have a flaw, and it's trying to find the one with the features you want and the flaw you can live with.
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>>59300222
the flaw that upsets me the most is that anything worth half a fuck costs $900
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>>59280711
>What are screensavers?
Things that aren't written any more for modern desktop environments. Try finding one in kde or gnome.
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>>59274624
My monitor ismore expensive than any other part of my PC with the exception of the graphics card which cost 600 EUR.
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>>59276892
>spending $1000 makes you poor so you feel superior for picking things up off the street?
How does it feel being ACTUALLY poor?
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>>59275010
>4K 144 Hz
>this summer
yeah not happening

or it is happening and costs ~$2000
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>>59275625
no it's not what the fuck

~23 is the sweet spot for 1920x1080, 27 is just too much. maybe ok if you're sitting 1.5 m away from your screen
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>>59280196
screen > mouse (because fuck RSI) > chair (because fuck back pain) > SSD > CPU > GPU > keyboard > everything else

for me
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>>59294499
You got a sauce on the image?

Google and iqdb just give me cartoon as a result
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>>59300570
Oh but it is. and its $1000
http://edgeup.asus.com/2017/01/04/rog-pg27uq-intro/
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>>59300559
>>spending $1000 makes you poor so you feel superior for picking things up off the street?
>How does it feel being ACTUALLY poor?
The act of spending money actually (literally) makes you poorer. There really is no simpler way to explain this.
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>>59274624

I spent $700 on a 42" 60hz LG IPS UHD display. It's nice :D
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When are OLED monitors coming out??
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>>59275785
>He's too poor to afford it
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>>59274624
i don't get what the big deal is. i use a 1080p tv that i got for 80 bucks as a monitor. works absolutely fine and i can switch inputs to play console games. as long as the image is clear, why waste a bunch of money on something that looks marginally better?
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>>59274767

I use 27' at work and 24' at home in those same conditions. Given the choice I'd go 24, 27 feels too large for me.
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https://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR49X800D-49-Inch-Ultra-Model/dp/B01FWIEO6A that thing used to be on sale, the 49" IPS one. The 43" is VA tho; both only 60 Hz think but some game on them.
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>>59300588
Not him, but Ai Mai Mi

Also someone recommend me a monitor:
Preferably no more than 1500AUD.
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>>59274624
Feels so pointless buying technology right now.

Anyone else feel that 2020 will be when technology will be worth it?

8K broadcasting in Japan is stated to be mainstream by 2020 so yeah.

Is /g/ able to be patient for 3 more years?
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>>59300867
Half of /g/ are poor,unemployed,mentally ill & still living with their parents so in theory they will and never have been in the equation of buying the expensive stuff
Personally Im not waiting, im buying the new 4k stuff coming soon then when and if better comes out I will get that.
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>>59274624
Waiting for an inexpensive and not huge QHD or 4K monitor.
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Find me the best 1080p 60fps monitor and ill switch OP
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>>59300733
not anytime soon
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>>59278934
Samsung has over 90% market share for OLED screens.
OLED you find on LG TV's aren't even real OLED as they are backlit.
"real" high end OLED panels are the ones commonly found on phones where as the ones you see on LG tvs are half assed imitation of the real technology.
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>>59274624
I didnt spend thousands on PC hardware and my ThinkVision which I bought as used for under 150$ is absolutely fine
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What's happened to all those cheap 120hz ips korean monitors that were around a while ago?
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>>59300222
What's worse is that there aren't any good monitor review sites. TFTCentral is probably the best one but they review 4 monitors per year so it's not that helpful.
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>>59274624
Most important is SSD!!
It replaces your RAM.
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>>59274624
screens don´t improve much with increased costs
especially if you have specific usecases that are not 4kips144hzmemesync
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I spent 800 quid on my monitor

It's the most expensive part of my system
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>>59275413
>picking 1440p instead of 4k just for the hz
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>spends $600 on a budget rig
>buys a marginally better CPU at the expense of a significantly better GPU
>buys anything other than a decent cheap Rosewill case
>tops it all off with a $120 mechanical keyboard and a $150 monitor
nuke us from orbit already
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>>59291389
you'll need to get used to fucking about before you play a game to get the ultra wide resolutions to work properly
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>>59291389
Spending that much on a monitor right now is a meme. If you want to try out ultrawide then get something cheaper.
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>>59280594
No downsides, 24" is the perfect monitor size and 1440p@24" is perfect, not too small at all, high DPI
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>>59280711
>what is actually using your computer and getting taskbar burned in
>or menu bar
>or bookmarks toolbar
>or anything else that just doesn't fucking move
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>>59275413
I want that setup.
60fps for years
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>>59301752
>picking 4k
which means
>picking oversized monitor
>or using scaling
I'm laughing at you
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Most important component is the PSU in a PC. Monitor is never important. 1080p will last for another five to ten years easy as 90% of the market.
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>>59274624
Got a used Eizo Foris FG2421 with 3 years of warranty for around 170$. It's the best purchase I've ever made.
I've went through 3 1440p IPS meme monitors before the Eizo but could never get used to the shitty response times, subpar blacks and minor ghosting/backlight bleeding.
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>>59301861
>Thing that you spend 100% of your time looking at isn't important.
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>>59274624
Ha, I got the same looking monitor. Factory color calibration ftw. The only drawback is 60 hz.

But for reading, programming, design work, I'd get something like 21 inch retina iMac or maybe macbook pro. Once you get used to reading text on high dpi screen, it's hard to go back.
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>>59301817
>24"
>perfect monitor size

Strongly disagree. 40" is the best monitor size.
You haven't had a good desktop experience until you've sat in front of a 40" 2160p@60hz PC monitor.
More companies need to embrace large format displays.
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>>59300980

Not OP, but I'm rocking 2 Dell U2417H, don't really care for high resolution or refresh rates, got lucky on a sale and snatched them for 220€ each. Breddy gud, would buy again. Go for it if you value color accuracy and adjustability above all else.
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>>59302039
>PC monitor
>sitting 2 feet away
>have to move entire body to see the screen
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>still no OLED pc screens
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>>59302070
I sit about arms length away, I don't have to turn to see the whole screen anymore than I'd have to turn to see all of a two monitor setup.
Its actually slightly narrower than two twenty inch 1080p displays side by side because there's no bezel separating them.
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>>59274849
Lol
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>>59296738
Are you inplying thats a bad tv m8?
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There are too many fucking screens and most of them are overpriced or have disappointing flaws. A lot of people have been holding out for a fairly priced 1440p 100Hz IPS(without atrocious) 4ms response Freesync monitor with good uniformity for quite a while. Now with disasters in the world economy throwing pricing so unstably, they're less accessible and less feasible for companies to profit from.
Also hello /v/. On the topic of your video games, RTS don't benefit nearly as much from visual fidelity as shooters.
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>Rig cost $250-ish dollars, bought complete computer off Ebay and slapped in a GTX 750ti
>Still using a 16:10 Dell monitor from 2006
Who poorfag here?
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I use this.......
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>>59278934
Has there been any improvements to the oled red colour burnout?
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>>59296113
Yeah but now you can tell people on 4chan that your monitor is big and shiny
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>>59301752
>picking 1440p 144hz gsync with 1080s in sli whilst waiting for the 4k 144hz.
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>>59296113
>1440p or 2160p looks the same as a 1080p or god forbid lower resolutions
>120 and higher refresh rate looks the same as 60
>IPS looks the same as TN
>colour reproduction is the same as no colour reproduction
Damn I envy people who don't strive for anything better in their life, ignorance is bliss
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>tfw 60hrz 1440p monitor with a gtx 1080
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>>59303952
ignorance is bliss for certain
as long as you don´t know anything better than tn you will never need the better thing
but once you go better you will never be able to downgrade making upgrades in future fare more costly
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I just want a gud 27in 1440p for around 300 but that's not going to happen.
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>buy new monitor
>find out I need a decent Displayport 1.2 cable just to run it properly
>all the cables available here are garbage
>recommended brand is only available on Amazon from the US
>have to wait two weeks to use my monitor correctly
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can looking at a pc monitor all the time cause bad eyesight?
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>>59305761
looking at light sources of all kinds can cause bad eyesight
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>>59274624
I use a 27" adobe rgb wide gamut monitor tyvm
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>>59305663
>cable
>brand
what does it matter as long as it works it´ll work it´s a digital signal and you probably won´t route the cable over 100 m
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I use a nice sPVA display that cost a lot of money when new, bought it used back in 2011 and it's now 10 years old.
Honestly I have no idea what I'm going to change it with when it dies, IPS is so underwhelming,
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>>59274767
I have a 43" in front of me
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>>59305761
desu using your eyes in general can cause bad eyesight
fuck, not using them also can do that
Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't
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>>59305761
>>59306065
Just be born with good genes, problem solved.
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>>59305863
>what does it matter

Actually getting cheap Displayport cables can do quite a bit of damage to your GPU.
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>>59306409
care to explain ?
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>>59306501

https://www.displayport.org/cables/how-to-choose-a-displayport-cable-and-not-get-a-bad-one/
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getting weird distortion on image when I scroll up for down

what is this
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>>59306559
>when I asked if there are DP cable versions I was told yes
>now this shit comes up
ah for fucks sake
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>>59305863
>what does it matter

low quality cables give you shit quality imaging and can even throttle your framerate
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>>59306684
>what is digital signals
>is hdmi analogue

retard
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>>59306739

Do you even know what the fuck you're saying?
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>>59305863
>>59306739

>being this ignorant
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>>59306765
>>59307063
you guys are fucking retards
go buy silver plated hdmi cables on amazon for 2000$ then
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>>59307146
El cheapo USB cables can explode or have hideously poor connections if they're improperly shielded or made from shitty wire. And those things are digital.
Below a certain level of quality assurance, yes digital cables can be crap and lead to equipment damage, but beyond that point its all the same; its insane to spend thousands of dollars on cables but by the same token you're retarded to buy a $3 display port cable off aliexpress.
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>having monitors and graphics cards the price of a used car
autism
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>>59274624
~400€ computer with 190€ screens free mouse and 1€ keyboard
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>>59275625
No, anon. 1080p on anything larger than 23" or 24" is an abomination.
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>>59274624
You can pick

>IPS
>1440P
>120/144Hz

Which do you choose and why
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>>59307220
Nigger, I am talking about normal shit, not some special snowflake hdmi cable that was cobbled together in some chinese granny's backyard
If they are damaged/not working properly just return it and get a non-shit one

You are literally talking about something that is not a problem
Normal HDMI cables you can buy at walmart/bestbuy are fine (albeit overpriced af, but that's something entirely different)

Recently saw a 15m cat5e cable being sold at a major German electronics retailer for 30$ r8
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>>59306590
disable smooth scrolling.
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>>59307439
4K
60HZ
VA
Fuck your IPS and gaymen shit
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>>59274624
Your assumptions about my computing are incorrect.

The only primary market component in my current computer is a 1060 because I wanted to play with some machine learning algorithms. I am otherwise running a used dualcore Pentium 4 with 8GB of RAM.

That said, I am planning a major upgrade this summer, because while my system is currently sufficient for my needs, but I would like to play Witcher 3 sometime this summer, and I want to set up a virtual machine with GPU passthrough Unsurprisingly, W3 didn't run well on my old dualcore. I game on a simple 32 inch HDTV that I picked up for slightly over $150 on Black Friday last year, because I like to kick back comfy af in my recliner with a gamepad. I actually use a thinkpad clitmouse as my only keyboard/mouse. So, currently my monitor is at least a third of the cost of my system, if not closer to half depending on how you would depreciate the still-working P4 box that I've gotten seven years of good working use out of so far prior to upgrading to the 1060 last fall.

Part of my upgrade at that point should be a VR headset for some other games that I'm into right now, which should cost about 50% of the cost of the box that I'll transplant the 1060 into.

I think that the reason why many people spend on their box and skimp on the monitor is that the box is what gives them the ability to conspicuously consume for the customary electronic penis measuring contests that many "computer enthusiasts" engage in. A good monitor only gives them immediate hedonic enjoyment, which among circuit 3 and 4 activated larval humanity is much less important than the struggle to jockey for social status within their chosen groups.
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>>59276372
Can someone tell me source on this guy please
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>>59274624

All screens are the fucking same. As long as you can read the letters and distinguish about 100 colors you don't really need anything else.
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>>59274624

>he doesn't stream the output of his computer directly into his brain
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>>59307439
>not picking 1440p and IPS for <250$
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>>59307547
what monitor is this
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>>59307555
BenQ BL2420PT, this is the one I recently bought
I'm sure as hell there's numerous more like this
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I'm using a double solution.
Eizo CG246 for work (€2000) and Asus PG248Q for gaming (€500)
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I didn't spend a fortune on my monitors, but I didn't skimp out particularly either.

Dual 25" 1440p 60Hz IPS panels.
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>not using an old Q6600 machine + 1920x1200 S-PVA monitor for shitposting
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>>59274624
< not using a 5k screen
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>>59307697
>DPI so high you can't even see which <> symbol you type
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>>59307670
>that IPS GLOW
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>>59307764
It's at full brightness just for the picture so it can be more easily seen by my phone camera.

I don't actually use it anywhere near that level of brightness (generally 5-15%)
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I love how it's twenty fucking seventeen and we don't have flat screens with a contrast ratio and black levels of a 90s CRT, where dark film and game scenes are actually dark and not bright grey blue
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>>59307810
We do, just not in the computer monitor space.

OLED TVs with HDR are the current best, i'd expect computer monitors within 2-3 years of similar spec.
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>>59307810
well plasmas were the best thing
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>>59307736
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I dont understand OP. At all.

I still use Acer P203w monitor that is more than 7-8 years old, I cant recall anymore, with native 1680x1050. It served me well all this time, on three different PCs, current one using RX480 GPU.

I dont see ANY reason I should change it for new one. I have 1080p monitor at work and its too wide for my taste and everything is too small anyway. My home desk wont fit anything bigger either.

Display is nice and sharp, everything works without problems, so why should I change it? Especialyl since I probably wouldnt be able to find another 1050p monitor?

Go ahead, explain.
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>>59307874
So you don't want accurate colors and good contrast/black blacks? And being able to look att he monitor with the colors not turning to shit if you look from the sides?
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>>59307874
>Acer P203w
That has a PPI of ~99

This means that with the SAME viewing distance any other monitor with similar PPI will look identical in regards to text size and GUI elements.

For reference
>1680x1050 at 20" is 99.06 PPI
>1920x1080 at 22" is 100.13 PPI
>1920x1080 at 24" is 91.8 PPI
>2560x1440 at 27" is 108.79 PPI
>3840x2160 at 43" is 102.46 PPI


All of these resolutions and screen sizes are within ~10 pixels per inch of your current monitor and would look ever so slightly sharper, or very slightly duller than your current monitor while keeping text and GUI elements roughly the same size.


If you want a larger monitor, a 27" 1440p monitor would be a bit sharper (at 108 PPI instead of 99 PPI) but still close enough to have text be just as legible assuming you use the same viewing distance as your current monitor. This would give you much more desktop space to work with and provide a larger screen to watch media content on.
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>>59307969

Colors are fine, I have to get to look at it from weird angle to actually see colors change.

Again, if everything works fine, then why change?

>>59307974

I dont actually want larger screen. I still consider elements on this 1680x1050 to be rather small and tiny on 1080p I have at work.
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>>59308030
>I dont actually want larger screen. I still consider elements on this 1680x1050 to be rather small and tiny on 1080p I have at work.


What do you mean by this?

If you get a monitor with a smaller PPI, text and GUI elements are going to be larger, if you get a monitor with more PPI GUI and text elements will be smaller.

Your current PPI is 99.

Meaning ANYTHING under 99 PPI will look larger at the SAME viewing distance.

Anything OVER 99 PPI will look smaller at the SAME viewing distance.


If 99 PPI is too small for you, get something with a smaller PPI to make things look bigger.
A 32" 2560x1440p monitor will have a PPI of 91.


It's as simple as that, larger screen has NOTHING to do with how big or small text is.
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>24" 4K monitor
On a scale from "1" to "looking at the Ark of the Covenant" how badly would this strain my eyes?
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>>59308094
you know about the secrets of scaling?
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>>59308094
You can GUI scale to 150% and make it look like 1440p @ 24", or scale to 200% and make it 1080p @ 24".

Without GUI scaling however you wont be reading text without hurting your eyes.
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>>59308079

Lets assume I get bigger screen but with same PPI.

Why.

Thats the same question from the start - why should I change it. Why should I get some monster 32'' monitor and squeeze it at my desk, which would probably require new desk anyway, because that 20'' barely fits.

Why.
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>>59274794
>he didn't dumpster dive his 21' CRT and carry it up 3 flights of stairs

>>>/reddit/
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>>59274794
>graphics card only has digital outputs
looks like you got cucked
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>>59308128
Because in MOST work flows being able to have more content on the same panel without having to switch back and forth between virtual workspaces is going to be much faster.


I'm not sure what you do for a living, but many people on here are coding, or working with multiple software tools at once, or editing files, or doing network stuff that would benefit from having monitor tools open while also having a bash console open, etc, etc.


If you don't see the use in having more resolution I have to imagine you're really not doing that much with your computer to begin with anyway and could probably get by with a laptop or tablet.
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>>59274767
I'm currently using a chink 27 inch 1440p monitor, and selling it for two smaller 23 inch 1080p monitors, I find it 27 inches just a bit too big for me at that resolution
>>
How are Windows 10 and general 3rd part applications in terms of scaling for 1440p?

Should I just get a 1920x1080 or 1920x1200?
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>>59308203
>Should I just get a 1920x1080 or 1920x1200?
why is this even a question
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>>59308098
>>59308112
Cool. Thanks.
May as well post the model then:
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&cs=audhs1&l=en&sku=391-BBYW

Do you think this be a good upgrade for someone presently using a 1080p TN panel? I've truthfully never seen an IPS display before.
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>>59308094

4k 28" is bad enough unscaled, 4k 24" will require scaling and it will still look tiny

on the plus side you'll be able to drop to 1080p in games if you're getting fps drop and it'll look very, very close to a 1080p 24" monitor
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>>59308230
For that price i'd rather get two 1440p 25" or similar.

4k at that size simply isn't going to be all that amazing.


For me personally, I wouldn't bother with 4k without GUI scaling, which means a minimum screen size of ~36". And my preference would be 40-43"
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>>59307824
Do OLED's have a longer lifespan yet? I burned two S4s and won't use OLED for video display panels until they increase the lifespan to LCD-tier. It's okay for minor displays that don't run for long periods of time (like my vape) and overpriced fancy shit for people who need luxury, but for real men who need gear that works through adversity and heavy use, it is insufficient technology.
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>>59308251
>>59308236
Shit. Guess I'll keep looking then.
Thanks again for the input.
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>>59308348
Yes OLED has longer life span now, but it still wont match what LCDs can do in terms of longevity.


Current OLEDs have issues with static burn in, but it is easily correctable using automatic tools built into the device, or manual "cleaning" modes.

Similar to where plasma was, PERMANENT burn-in isn't particularly an issue anymore unless you are really trying to damage your panel (leaving a VERY bright static image with max brightness for 10+ hours for example), it's going to be fine for easily 5 years. The issue is longevity. Current OLED panels will over time lose brightness, and in 5-10 years may become noticeably darker compared to when you first bought it.
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>>59274624
>$150
>cheap

that's a rip off. paying over $100 for a monitor is fucking retarded. I bet you spent over $500 on your rig, too. kek.
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>>59308417
>being poor

wew, at least you're enjoying it.
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>>59291389
thats a cute rabbit
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>>59308440
>poor

I'm not poor, I'm just not going to throw money at shit that doesnt require it. It's the same idea as buying a gaymig laptop when a normal laptop with swapped parts is cheaper and functions better depending on specs.
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>>59308175

I never had problems with samller screen before when writing simple software, so I dont know.

As for living, Im currently during phd in solid state physics.

>If you don't see the use in having more resolution I have to imagine you're really not doing that much with your computer to begin with anyway and could probably get by with a laptop or tablet.

Hey, I was being nice, no point in insulting me now.

Not to mention that laptop with proper specs would cost me fortune and I like to play some video games too.
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>>59308498
>I'm not poor
sure :^)
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>>59308499
>I never had problems with samller screen before when writing simple software, so I dont know.


Look, no one is saying you can't use a smaller monitor just fine. But it's objectively better to be able to have more shit on the screen at the same time, and assuming you have identical pixel density, it will look the same, just give you more space to work with.

If you can't fit it in your desk, or you're constrained in some other manner, that's different.
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>>59307146

you're a fucking moron
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>>59307445

We're not talking about hdmi cables, we were discussing displayport 1.2 cables.
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>>59299714
t. AT 2020 user
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>>59274925
Yes, you liar
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>>59306590

Found the fix for this btw, I just turned off Trace Free off on my monitor and it resolved it.
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>>59303812
This, except for the sli
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My Qnix QX2710 died (MOSFET burnt the board)

I'm thinking of getting the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q

Thoughts ?
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>>59275010
Legit question: why do people fall for the 4k meme? Sure it's gorgeous, but most of the web isn't optimized for it yet so while games and some vids might look gorgeous, regular browsing can be a pain (tiiiiiny font)
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>>59311460

Because they just fell for it.

the largest 4k panel aimed at PC's is the same pixel density as a 27" 1440p display, which is what intelligent people go for, 4k makes no sense unless your screen is huge.
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>>59281049
Gamut and calibration are definitely really important if you're into anything visual/artistic. Having a display with larger gamut is also necessary at the professional stage. It's amazing what a difference it can make.
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>>59311480
This. I mean yeah it's the top end of viable options right now but it seems hardly ideal for desktop use. 1440p seems like a significantly more practical choice for the time being. Maybe as things move towards 4k it will be a little more accessible but for now it just feels more like a novelty or extreme luxury.
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>>59311460
I was going to pull the trigger on 2k 144hz but if I play a 4k video in the future (on YouTube or something) or view a 4k image I don't want to have to downscale it, I want to be able to view it in its original glory. 4k seems to be the new meme so I want to be prepared for it and not regret my purchase in 3 years (monitors retain their value a long time).
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>>59311480
This.

27", 1440p, 144hz, 100% sRGB, IPS is the best screen on the market right now, and will continue to be the best screen for several more years.
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>>59311750

Yeah, like the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q

If only AUO didn't have shit quality control.
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>>59311304

People who buy these monitors at those insane prices are so fucking dumb.
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>>59311750
Are there any screens like this but 24 or 25"?
27" is too big for my desk space.
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>>59311893
Not currently that I am aware of.
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>>59274624
I spent $330 on my DELL U2515H, great panel.
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>>59311750
So if I were buying a monitor today I should buy this?
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&cs=audhs1&l=en&s=dhs&sku=210-AGPC&redirect=1
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>>59274624
>Have $1200 PC
>Have $149 28" 1080p 120hz HP Monitor I got on sale

What's the problem you dumb faggot? It works just fine
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>>59311882

More like smart, you have no idea how amazing it looks. The Korean A- fad is over and is the only reason the usual brands offer these displays now.
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>>59311929

> He probably owns a TN LCD TV too
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>>59311923

No, for that you're paying for no screen uniformity issues, no BLB, and mostly for it to come calibrated.

It probably has fucktons of input lag.
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>>59311959
Well can you recommend me any manufacturers that offer panels that meet your standards?
Because I can't find anything that has all of them; eg. If it's 100% color space then usually it won't be 144Hz.
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>>59311945
Strictly Samsung TVs
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>>59311945
Are modern TN's really that bad?
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I spent 500 or so on 3 1080p tn monitors. I'd like to buy a 27inch 1440p 60hz ips monitor. You guys have any suggestions?
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>buying anything other than an IPS HP monitor

Go to bed kids you have school in the morning
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>>59312157
Ultrasharps have a more consistent track record than HPs in recent years. Not to mention having a wider selection.
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Guys, I am looking for a 5:4 or 4:3 or similar monitor that is 24 inches or larger and DOESN'T cost four-figures

Can I buy such a monitor without shady craigslist dealings?
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>>59312071
sell your other monitors to pay for it
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anyone use both VA and IPS before? Is the black level on VA worth it compared to the color on IPS?
I can't stand TN due to the viewing angles
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Why do people keep saying 4k monitors are too expensive? I picked up a Samsung 4k refurb for $220.
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>>59312338
Why don't you sit directly in front of your monitor?
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>>59312338
Gamma shifting on VA is pretty annoying.
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>>59312403
Do that and
- TN will be darker at the top
- VA will gamma shift and shimmer in the middle
- IPS will have glow in the corners

Welcome to LCDs, time to educate yourself.
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>>59312697
How long will it take for OLED to be mainstream outside of phones?
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>>59312720

OLED's are not worth it due to blues fading into obscurity within 4 years.
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>>5931272
oled has major flaws
like slow black to gray response times
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>>59312697

IPS glow is severely overrated, just don't expect horror games to be amazingly black, and don't watch movies on them if you care about black level.
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>>59312755

by overrated I mean exaggerated, derp.
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>>59312740
LCDs have much more major flaws than that.
The only real major flaw for OLED is the burn in
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>>59312784

and blues mostly fading within 4-5 years.
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>>59274767
>a 27" one

I use a 27" monitor —
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DDR0FE2/?tag=pcpapi-20

I think it is a great monitor. Games and movies look great on it. I have this monitor for ten months now. But I have a story to tell.

In December, while I was laying in bed in a pitch black room with my eyes closed trying to fall asleep, I saw a bright light that moved across my face as though someone with a flashlight scanned my room. I immediately opened my eyes and saw nothing but the darkness. I leaned over and turned on my bedside lamp and saw no one. I got out of bed and looked around my apartment, and even went outside to look around the yard that I can see from my bedroom window. I found nothing unusual.

Several days later, again in bed near the moment of sleep, I saw the same flashlight effect move across my eyes. I gave a quick look around. Nothing again. The light happened almost every night for days. I dismissed it as some kind of pre-dream state anomaly. I went away on vacation for two weeks. The light effect stopped almost immediately. It came back within days of my return to my home and my monitor. I realize now that staring at this 27" monitor might be over-stimulating the light receptors in my eyes.
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>>59312825
>what is a burn in
fuckin autist
>>
> Using a samsung syncmaster 2450L
> GTX770
> Is this worth a change ?
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>>59312755
No, it's not.
But you can avoid the glow if you go for IPS with A-TW.
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>>59312872

> burn in

That was an issue with first gen plasmas before pixel shift was added, OLED's have it too.

fucking autist
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>>59307974
so i would need a 3840x2160 27" screen to get good ppi?
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