blunder of the century confirmed https://www.youtube.com/wa

>>59264574
>he thinks benchmark matter when using windows that does not support the new cache

nice! can't wait to click on this you tube link about the new computer processor gaming performance :~) thanks for sharing OP

>>59264578
why would you start arguing about processors in this thread you unspeakable retard. there are like five other ryzen threads you could be posting in.

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>>59264578
>he thinks just waiting a little while longer will finally see amd on top

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>>59264578
>j-j-just w-wait g-guys, I swear it-it will be fixed

>>59264594
>he thinks tom "intel sucker " hardware matters

>>59264601
>what has the bulldozer fuck up?

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>>59264574
Kek

Ryzen is so fucking bad

>>59264620
kek indeed, friendo! EPIC gaming benchmarks btw

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>mfw my 7700k at 5GHz destroys any AMDead poocessor

>>59264601
>Using window 10
it already work on 7

>everything optimized for Intel

>>59264689
oh good. im glad to hear that while window 10 has problems with the new gaming processor, it work already on window 7. now i can play my video games

regardless of what the benchmarks say, intel lowered their prices in response to ryzen's release

intel feels that their position is being threatened, and that's quite a tell

>>59264712
you have aids

>>59264712
>intel lowered their prices in response to ryzen's release

They didn't, they didn't even lower them a cent.

>>59264768
you have aids

>>59264771
Thanks for the heads up

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>AMD is supposed to be "budget"
>i7 7700K costs less than the 1800X
>i7 7700K has more performance than the 1800X

>>59266463

Who said it's supposed to be "budget"?

Other than the chink mother board makers.

>>59264574

Neat, better than 6900, better than 7700k overclocked minimum frames, and only going to improve here on out all while consuming less power.

Major wins all around, thanks for sharing.

>>59264601
h-h-heh, mommy, I p-posted it again!

>>59264594
>single-threaded

>>59266463
It's fucking hilarious desu senpai

AMD made a CPU that is both slower and more expensive

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>>59266463
>>i7 7700K has more performance than the 1800X
you can't be this naive

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>>59267574

>>59267594
>gaming

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>>59267597

>>59267615
that's a legit benchmark you have there, if a 8c16t (granted, with a lower clock speed and IPC) is slower than 4c8t.

>>59267615
How does sysmark do its benchmarks?

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>>59264574
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN THIS TIME GUYS

>>59267644
"SYSmark® 2014 ver 1.5 is an application-based benchmark that reflects usage patterns of business users in the areas of office productivity, media creation, and data/financial analysis. SYSmark 2014 ver 1.5 features the latest and most popular applications from each of their respective fields."

It basically runs a bunch of apps and creates regular usage patterns to test them

>>59267658

Sysmark is not a legitimate benchmark.

>>59267615
> Sysmark
CInebench? H.264 placebo FPS? Audio software doesn't count since those don't usually use more than two threads.

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>>59264594
>all these shills posting single threaded benchmarks
Kek

>>59267654

More efficient then intels 4 core 8 threaded isn't a win?

>>59267658
Seems skewed towards low-powered office which does see improvement with better single-threaded performance but ultimately doesn't matter since you're shaving a few microseconds at best.

my next gentoo battlestation will be 100% AMD hopefully

>>59267676
>ADD MOAR COARS

>>59267705
>what is X99
>benchmarking CPUs with gaymez

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>>59267675
>it only counts if it's cinebench

AMDtards going full damage control.

The reality is the vast majority of software will never take advantage of all those useless cores due to the way it has to be programmed.

Photoshop for example, Ryzen is absolutely horrible at photoshop, beat by 30% by an Intel processor that costs $160 less.

>>59267714
Something nobody buys.

>>59267734
>AMDtards going full damage control.
>The reality is the vast majority of software will never take advantage of all those useless cores due to the way it has to be programmed.
By your logic the whole HEDT lineup of intel is also pointless.

>>59267594
>6900K is slower than 7700K while costing over twice as much
>wow, the 6900K is fucking shit

if intel shills would apply their logic to CPUs other than ryzen

>>59267753
It's pointless for the vast majority of people

They're server CPUs repurposed

Just like Ryzen they only excel in server-like workloads

>>59267541
Is it slower and more expensive than the 6900k, which is the one that they wanted it to go against?

The 4c/8t competitors weren't release yet, in case you didn't notice.

also, kill yourself and spare us from your stupidity

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>>59267676
>synthetic Benchmarks
>meaning anything

>>59267753
The point is ryzen is bad cpu for average desktop usage especially when you can get a better performing chip in these tasks for less.

>>59267807
Ryzen is slower and more expensive than nearly all of Intel's lineup. Complete disaster.

>>59267825
>>59267615

>>59267828
Then by all means, don't get it if you don't need it.

>>59264601
>>59264574

>playing video games when you're older than 15

fucking butt rekt intel shils

>>59267877
Nobody should.

I would only recommend Ryzen for server workloads

>>59267748
>less people buy high end hardware
Such a surprise
>>59267795
>It's pointless for the vast majority of people
>high end parts aren't meant for the average user
No shit, it's not like an average user would get a 7700k/6700k anyway. Getting a quad core in this year isn't really logical(if you are building a high end system that is) with even more software taking advantage of MOAR COARZ. The same was said for quad cores back in 2008 and guess who was proven wrong after a little while.

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>>59264574
Does this mean if I use gentoo and compile everything for me, Ryzen is the best? No one here should be complaining about it then.

>>59267889
Or the hobbyist who likes to do HPC at home

>>59267906
Correct ban all /v/ babbies and Intel false flag shills

>>59267897
That's complete bullshit though

The 7700K kills Ryzen in basically everything and it's way cheaper too

>>59264574
>Ryzen losing to a i5 half its price
Absolutely hilarious, it's bulldozer all over again. Pretty much what I expected it to be. Hopefully AYYMD will finally go bankrupt now so we don't have to deal with their subpar products and false marketing anymore.

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>>59267828
>in these tasks
Gaymez? I mean it should've been pretty clear that game devs aren't particularly good at writing proper multithreaded hardware since we've had consumer >4 core CPUs for a couple of years now. Also the r7 CPUs are meant to compete with broadwell-e CPUs l, not with the quad and dual cores of intel, that's what the r5 and r3s are for.
>>59267825
>i-it doesn't count!!
pic related

>>59267897
>20% worse than a 7700k
Literally no reason to buy a piece of shit Ryzen CPU.

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>>59267956
I want to meet these people who spend all day compiling things in Linux

Actually on I don't, they are all autistic

Meanwhile, in the real world...(pic related)

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>>59267945
>basically everything
>you don't need more than 4 vores believe me guise
Fuck off shill
See
>>59267956
>>59267676

>>59267956
STOP THE PRESSES GUYS

WE CAN COMPILE GENTOO FASTER

get out

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>games

>>59267983

STOP THE PRESSES GUYS

IT WORKS WELL ON COMPLETELY NON-INTERACTIVE NON-DESKTOP DISTRIBUTED SUPERCOMPUTER-TYPE C-RAY BENCHMARKING

get out

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>>59267983
>muh cores
Will this meme ever die? It already failed for bulldozer, and it's failing for ryzen now too.

>>59267991

STOP THE PRESSES GUYS

GAMING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WORKSTATION COMPUTING. THERE IS ONLY GAMING + SUPERCOMPUTING-TYPE FULLY NON-INTERACTIVE MULTIPROCESSING WHERE WE NEVER HAVE TO TOUCH THE COMPUTER WHILE WE WAIT FOR IT TO COMPILE OR RENDER

get out

>>59267976
>office productivity
>mostly apps that don't need to scale with cores
>can scale with clocks but you're shaving off a few nanoseconds at best with that =SUM on your spreadsheet
Literally useless benchmark

>>59267983
You would have to be a fucking dumbass to buy Ryzen, especially if you intend to use it for gaming.

>>59268015
>>>/v/

>>59268004
Physics

>>59268036
You are literally mentally challenged. You are in need of medical attention. Gaming has MORE to do with Workstation computing compared to pure rendering or pure encoding.

>>59267976
>I don't get the idea of benchmarks: the post
The point is to see how well the thing performs under heavy load, whether it's a real world or synthetic scenario doesn't matter since only the execution time matters when determining performance. That compilation benchmark shows that the 1800x beats the 6900k (which it's supposed to be competing with) in a multithreaded workload.

>office productivity
Top kek, look at that 6900k, what part of ">4 core CPUs perform usually worse at software that don't utilize them" do you not understand? The r7 parts are meant for multithreaded loads just like the X99 parts.

Oh but right, every multithreaded workload that shows your petty quad cores getting their asses handed to them were pointless, weren't they?

>>59268055
>Gaming has MORE to do with Workstation
>>>/v/

>>59268051

I FOUND ONE NICHE USE GUYZ

get out

Gaming is MORE related to Workstation computing compared to a niche use that a user is only waiting for something to render or he does some niche scientific simulation (without even considering the time he spends actually fucking creating that).

>>59267956
>Ryzen only excels at Linux-based applications
>an OS with less than 1% usage share
What a failure of a CPU.

>>59268055
>Workstation computing
My workstation computing mostly involves compiling, decompiling and virtual machines utilizing the Linux kernel with its excellent Ryzen support.

>>59268067

I HAVE NO ARGUMENT

LET'S LINK THEM /V/

get out

>>59268070
Physics is pretty much used in a lot of 3d games
>Gaming is MORE related to Workstation computing
>>>/v/

>>59268067
>>>/r/AMD
Piece of shit AMDrone.

>>59264594
>6900k sandwitched between bulldozers
oy vey shut it down

>>59268090
And what THE FUCK does that have to do with the OP video you autistic fuck?

>>59268091
You literally didn't argue why games are much more related to workstation than work in the first place
>>>/v/

>>59268055
>mentally challenged
retarded

>>59264594
>single threaded benchmark
>0.41 seconds off the 6900X that it's competing against

Kill yourself shilltel fecal matter.

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NOOOO PLZ DELET

>Intel has no competition for several years
>Focuses on energy savings over IPC
>Competition on IPC arrives
>Drop prices by $50 across the board
>Ryzen flops performance-wise anyway
>6 months later
>New batch of intel CPUs launched
>Completely stomps amd and make it irrelevant again for another 5 years
>Wow nothing happened
gg ayymd, at least you tried.

Thanks for the price drops though

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>>59268107

>>59268140
kek

>>59268004
>B-BUT ITS NOT A REAL WORLD BENCHMARK WAAH
>the benchmark only counts if it's a shitty gaymen one
As I said the point is to see how fast the thing can accomplish a demanding task (partially)regardless of what the task actually is. There's nothing wrong with using a cray ti get a glimpse of the multuthreaded performance, it's not like the result differs with other multi core benches.

>>59268006
>when will this meme die
Not soon considering intel even released new 8 core chips and even a 10core consumer chip and is also planning to release more >4 core parts with skylake-x.

>>59268031
>especially if you intend to use it for gaming.
I mean wasn't clear that lower clocks and more cores perform worse in software that don't scale properly with more threads than higher clocks and less cores?

>>59268076
>only excels at Linux-based applications
>shills are THIS desperate
No, shows that it excels at running multi threaded software just like it was supposed to be.

Only manchildren play games

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>AMD CEO Says 'Forward Thinking' Gamers Will Choose Ryzen Over Intel
> “We think Ryzen is a great gaming CPU, and you’ll test that for yourself – we’re not going to win every head-to-head, but if you think about gaming do you want theoretical performance or do you want the CPU to be good enough to showcase your GPU?”
AyyMD are completely losing the plot.

>"Ryzen is terrible at games"
>Still gets over 100 fps

Am I the only one that thinks anything over 60 fps is fine?

Also, does anyone remember when i7's were considered a waste of money for gaming when the i5's were enough for less money?

>>59268148
The huge majority of PC users mostly stick to gaming and tasks that that rely a more on single thread performance than anything else you retard. Which means Ryzen is fucking useless for 95% of all users out there. They're much better off getting an i5 or the 7700k than a piece of shit AMD CPU.

>>59268234
>Am I the only one that thinks anything over 60 fps is fine?
>implying 4K/60FPS / 2K/144FPS isn't the true way to play vidya
If you are a poorfag Pajeet who can only afford low-end hardware, sure. Might not even call yourself a gamer at this point.

>>59268051
Nobody uses cpus for physics. There's tegra for that.

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>>59268241

>>59267676
I, too, purchase CPUs to run Cinebench all day long.

>>59268111

I STILL DIDN'T SAY WHY I LINK /V/ LIKE A RETARD

LET'S RELINK /V/ LIKE A RETARD EVEN IF THE FUCKING OP ITSELF IS GAMING BENCHMARKS BUT I'M TOO FUCKING RETARDED TO EVEN NOTICE THAT

get the fuck out little child

>>59268270

Well, I'm not a gamer, so...

>>59268241
>Which means Ryzen is fucking useless for 95% of all users out there
Yes, just like the HEDT parts of intel which amd'd 8 cores are supposed to be competing with.
>They're much better off getting an i5 or the 7700k
You do realize that they still haven't released the hexa, quad and dual core parts, right? The octa cores are not meant for single threaded uses which is why intel doesn't advertise X99 parts as quad core i7 replacements. They are for different segments. It's amusing how people suddenly started to act surprised over how octa core parts have worse single core performance than quad cores even though we've had HEDT parts for years now.

ITT: faildozer v2 buyer's remorse

>>59268315
>acting as if it won't perform also well in real world multi threaded uses
Oh wait the bench only counts if it shows your favorite brand winning, right?

>>59268340

And no one who knows what they are talking about says that.

>>59268348
>Oh wait the bench only counts if it shows your favorite brand winning, right?
virtually all of the real-world benchmarks paint a picture of the 7700K dominating the Ryzen lineup for anything other than maybe a poorfag workstation setup. This may change when the Opteron line is launched—we'll have to wait and see.

>>59268276
Isn't Tegra a SoC for mobile devices?
If you want GPU Physics, you either have to use proprietary shit like PhysX that locks out anyone else that's not using a certain GPU brand. Otherwise, it's the CPU's job.

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>mfw a "Ryzen patch" comes out like the Athlon patch back in the day and the result obliterates Jewtel

>>59268374
>if u disagree u don't know what ur talking about

>>59268318
You're focusing too much on the vidya gayyyms. I think >>>/v/ would be an appropriate place for you.

>>59268192

An MIT doctorate in electrical engineering, who has turned around three companies, Texas Instruments, IBM, and now AMD doesn't know what she is talking about?

I've been waiting to upgrade for a bit here, 3570k user. I'm really hoping Ryzen turns out like the 7970, becomes god tier over time with advancements in optimzation and drivers. I'll wait for a few more months, if not then 7770k for me. :3

>>59268321
The r5s have even less clock speed than the 1800x which gets obliterated by even the 7600k. See >>59264620

That should tell you enough about how well the 4/6 cores Ryzen will do against a similarly priced i5. AMD needs to go bankrupt for this yet-another blunder.

>>59268379

95% of IPC performance of Kaby Lake, 120 multithreaded performance of Kaby Lake.

If that's faildozer 2.0 then no, you have no fucking clue.

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>>59268375
>there aren't any real world multi threaded use case scenarios
I won't even bother linking the other multi threaded benchmarks poster here.

>maybe a poorfag workstation setup
Well, the HEDT parts of both intel and AMD are aimed at this niche segment between the consumer and workstation segments, isn't it? I don't get people being mad that an 8 core getting beaten in single threaded uses. As I said, that's what the r5 and r3 CPUs are for. Perhaps ayymd should have advertised/released them first.

>>59268378
>j-just give it time guys pls trust AMD they're the best
Pajeet's favorite line.

>>59268439
considering that the 8c/16t CPU is literally half the price of Intel's thousand dollar offerings, I don't see why the 4c/8t r5's shouldn't be much lower in price compared to the i7

>>59268444
top kek
I, too, run 7-zip 8 hours/day at work

>>59268439
>The r5s have even less clock speed than the 1800x which gets obliterated by even the 7600k
These really are rebranded server parts then. We'll see how they overclock though. They might be competitive if they are good at that. It's not like I have a reason to care about single threaded uses though, bad for gaymurs I guess.

>>59268419

Legit stance.

A few things to watch for that will improve Ryzen performance though while you wait:

A windows 10 patch to help with Ryzens SMT.

Better motherboards, and RAM.

And Ryzen Master overclocking utility with windows 10 HEPT enabled.

It may never beat a 7700k.

>>59268467
>every non game benchmark/use case is not valid 1!1!1!!1!1!1
Getting desperate, eh?

>>59268495
So far, 4.1 seems to be the absolute solid wall for these chips without using some exotic cooling solution.

>>59268498
>It may never beat a 7700k.
That was never the point of the R7 series.

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>>59268439
Wrong the 1600x has the same clock as the 1800x

>>59268516
Is there a review where 4 cores are disabled prior to the OC you know of? I guess that could give us a rough estimate.

>>59268377
fuck I mean tesla

>>59268534

I am managing expectations.

Something AMD is obviously terrible at.

>>59268419
>thinks a CPU can be improved over time like a GPU
You're in for a surprise son. At best it will close the gap with intel's current and past 3 generations but still will lose badly. Coffe Lake will simply be the final nail in Ryzen's coffin.

>>59268550

Not yet, because Ryzen Master needs updating.

It will probably around the time of R5 and R3.

>>59268535
>same clock as the 1800x
So at its best the r5 be will be just as bad as the 1800x. Thanks AMD.

>>59268579
They have advertised it as a 6900k competitor from the beginning.

>>59268593

And then six months after that we get Zen+.

Ain't competition great?

>>59268606
Yet it can't even beat a 6800k.

>>59268606

Tell that to the reviewers who are putting it against the 7700k.

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>>59268621

>>59268621

It absolutely curb stomps the 6900, and 6950x in performance per dollar and performance per watt.

It even slays the 7700k in performance per watt.

>>59268625
Wish I could, but to be fair they don't have a way of pleasing their 12 year old fanbase without gaymez.

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>>59267989
no, you need to get out

this is the board for people who compile gentoo

there is a board for people who play video games
>>>/v/

fucking normies

compiling software on gentoo is the most important task a processor can perform

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>>59268653
>It even slays the 7700k in performance per watt.

Lmao no it doesn't

7700K kills it

AMD completely lied about their TDP

>>59268782

You'll have to lie better than that.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-11.html

>>59268782
>per watt

>>59268827
Lol how is that a lie, it's straight from this review: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-Review-Now-and-Zen/Power-Consumption-and-Conclusions

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wew

>>59268829
7700k is both faster and uses less power than the 1800x

>>59269088
>Simulated

AMDtards are so desperate they are literally making benchmarks up now

>>59269093

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-11.html

Wrong.

>>59269115

That chip it's simulating?

100 dollars less then the 7700k.

I don't understand this thread. Why are there so many kiddos here talking about video games. Did I fuck up and end up on /v/?