Redpill me on unsuccessful and obscure formats. (Betamax, LaserDisc,

>>59261867
https://www.youtube.com/techmoan

FLAC

>>59261867
LASERDISC WILL RISE AGAIN

>>59261867
A lot of those failed because of cost.

>>59261897
I can understand the high cost of LD as being a reason why it never took off, but Blu Ray had the same problem and succeeded over time.

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>>59261875
this.
beat me to it.

>>59261867
nonfree, license costs, patents, just general fuckery.

>>59261924
HD DVD was some poor, rushed attempt at copying Bluray

>>59261938
Is there any real advantage HD DVDs have over Blu Ray?

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minidisc is for lovers

>>59261867
VCD was popular commercially in Asia,
and in Western copyright infringement circles.

>>59261974
Why did VCDs never take off in the west? As far as I know, it took off in Asia because it resists humidity better than VHS.

I know quite a few people who had Laserdisc. VCD was somewhat popular in Asia too. VHS beat out Betamax, but that was really obscure. HD DVD was the only one of these which died a quick death.

>>59261867
betamax failed in the consumer market, but its professional contemporary betacam did very well. most broadcast television over the last 35 years was kept on some version of the betacam format

>>59261998
In Asia:
>This popularity is, in part, because most households did not already own VHS players when VCDs were introduced, the low price of the players, their tolerance of high humidity (a notable problem for VCRs), easy storage and maintenance, and the lower-cost media

In Europe, I personally encountered Video CD in the late 1990s, early 2000s, containing illicit copies of TV shows. DVD was not common yet, much less DVD burners. Video CD however could be copied on affordable CD burners. I never saw a legit commercial Video CD in my whole life however.

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>>59261875
>>59261926

>>59262041
I'm a SEAmonkey and I still see shelves full of this shit. Meanwhile, Blurays are still rare sight.

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>>59261867
Do software standards count as well?
If so: RDF, SPARQL

Does anyone remember Microsoft?

>>59261949
cost, maybe
other than that, Bluray is the objectively better format

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>>59261952
i will forever be in love with those fucking things. Don't forget UMDs.

>>59262041
>>59262056
I have some VCDs from Malaysia. It's basically 352x240/288 MPEG1 video. Really horrid when compared to Laserdisc, but insanely cheap to produce.

>>59262335
I still remember movies being split into two cds on VCDs. I've had this movie - 36th precinct and could not find the first CD for it so I could not watch it. I only watched it in 2015 and it was really good.

>>59262142
UMD was shit.

>>59261867
The karaoke firm I hired for my bar used exclusively Laserdiscs. I asked them why not move to digital media because the discs were older than shit and getting damaged. The owner said they tried to move to digital but their regular singers raised a stink about it because it didn't "sound right." Fyi their regulars were all 60+.

I don't think the fact they were digital made any difference, I think perhaps they liked the cheesy as fuck stock music video backgrounds that played with the lyrics.

Lovely people though, just a bit odd.

>>59262432
I have the first season of Futurama on VCD. There are two episodes per disc.

i always liked the theory that betamax died because it wouldnt license porn. it had advantages such as being more compact, having higher resolution, and betacam was used for a long time in proffessional settings over vhs. but betamax porn is really rare. fun urban myth

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>>59262537
>but their regular singers raised a stink about it because it didn't "sound right."

Analogue nerds are convinced that digital audio has "stair stepping"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM#t=3m36s

>>59262335
It wasn't competing with LD tho. How does it compare to VHS?

>>59262537
Laserdisc audio is digital PCM.

>>59262606
ffmpeg -i foo -target ntsc-vcd bar
Now blow it up fullscreen.

>>59262084
underrated.

>>59262537
a lot of laserdiscs did have digital audio paired with the analog video, but they probably wouldn't understand a difference like that

>>59262606
worse

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>>59261875
this

laserdisc is easily the most enjoyable

even more so if you speak a bit of moon

>>59261949
no BD+ drm
no shitty java menus
data layer is in the middle of the polycarb rather than on the surface with a super thin scratch resistant coating like blu-ray

sadly hollywood had different ideas

>>59262615
>Laserdisc audio is digital PCM.
>>59263174
>a lot of laserdiscs did have digital audio

They could have both. Especially in the case where there are multiple audio tracks for a movie.

>Sound could be stored in either analog or digital format and in a variety of surround sound formats; NTSC discs could carry two analog audio tracks, plus two uncompressed PCM digital audio tracks, which were (EFM, CIRC, 16-bit and 44.056 kHz sample rate).