>Macbooks are overpriced >Ok, show me a similarly priced

>>59237651
reported for spam

>>59237651
Except no ecc ram or xenon processor

>>59237651
they're 'overpriced' because the average person buys a $300 piece of shit from Walmart

MBPR user here, really want an X1C
hold me /g/

I use a macbook for school and can easily say that it's better for normal casual use not programming gaming etc.

>>59237651
prepare to be assblasted by hispanic kids full of impotent rage

>>59237651
>light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, the best trackpads in existence, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs, and the best build quality and support in the business
All placebos. Can't believe you are paying $1300 for a fucking DUAL CORE! Are you still in 2005?

>>59237651

And then something breaks and you have to replace the whole unit instead of a single part.

>>59237651
>your laptop: Macbook
>your desktop: self-build PC
only right choice

>buying a laptop with a screen other than 14"
does apple even make a 14 incher? I mean it is objectively the best portability to comfort ratio out there.

>>59237651
Thinkpads are overpriced
/Thread.

dell xps 13
there, $250 cheaper

>>59237651
>the best trackpads in existence
the worst ones

>NVMe SSDs
not needed

>the best build quality
mactoddler myth

>and support in the business
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2013/08/29/local-man-burned-up-by-apples-response-to-iphone-fire/

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>>59237651
>2006-2015
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel admitted it's shit and trashed the design to go back to copying 90's laptops with solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats at the slightest task because abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz because of chronic overheating problems
>retina meme supposedly for "pros" have have <70% aRGB
>gloss mirror coating makes it impossible to use with overhead lighting
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>shitbook air is even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer
>systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade

>2016+
https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o

>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>ultra shit tier zero travel kb
>keyboard louder than WWII cricket
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>tamper tape on battery screws

http://www.howtogeek.com/198043/how-to-merge-folders-on-mac-os-x-without-losing-all-your-files-seriously
>it's 2016 and moving files around in finder will STILL cause massive data loss

>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?

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>>59237651
>Chick shit
>build quality

>>59237651
>applefag says they are overpriced
>still buys one to show he's not poor
They aren't overpriced its just not a good laptop in general. At 1k I expect more workstation specs not some consumer facebook machine with usb ports

>>59237739
Lol "xenon" it's Xeon

>>59238074
/thread

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MacBook owner here, there are a few alternatives but none of them are great

spectre x360:
>new models are more expensive than the Mac and have mixed reviews
>old models have a pentile display
>doesn't compete with build quality and trackpad

dell XPS 13:
>webcam points up nose
>really bad build quality
>bad trackpad

And let's not forget Windows scaling issues among other things. The main problem is that the two non-Mac offerings are going to be shitpiles about a year after purchase whereas the Mac will still be a sexy, sturdy little machine, trucking along and servings its purpose. In fact, our school district is still using ancient Macbook Airs, and despite what the kids put them through, they're still trucking along, serving their purpose.

Lots of bias and retardation in these threads. See also: >>59237657
>hurdur we can have muh chink cellphone threads and thinkpad thread 24-7 but if you talk about a Mac it's spam
This is why people post the "you can't afford it" meme, because it's true for about half of you and for the rest of you it's still a good troll. This board is full of unintelligent children who both hate themselves and have huge egos—it's really weird, honestly.

>>59237924
i have an xps 15 right now. (3 days in)

battery life is definitely not comparable to my rMBP 15. The keyboard and trackpad are better on the mbp too. The xps trackpad is total shit. The screens aren't super comparable, each good in their own way. I like having a touch screen for onenote which is why I got it in the first place. I'm still not sure if I'll keep this thing. Windows 10 is a steaming pile of shit. I bought this xps direct from Dell and it has a slight warp in the case and some bad sound interference from the headphone jack.

I really expected the xps to be a mbp killer but I'm not convinced anymore.

>>59238170
t. macshill

Fanless ultra light Macbook or bust, but you have to admit it's really fucking expensive.

>>59238187
that's the thing, i wanna get rid of my mbp but I haven't found a reasonable solution yet.

(also I'll only switch to something with touch screen)

how do I into adjustable window tiling on Macs?

Also I've tried mac computers and it seems like when you have multiple instances of the same program open, you can't easily switch between them with alt-tabbing.

>>59237875
i second this

>>59237875
agreed

>>59237875
>your laptop: chromebook or cheap used thinkpad/dell
>your desktop: self build pc running windows and linux in dualboot

fixed it for you

>>59238232
>you can't easily switch between them with alt-tabbing
winbabies and mactoddlers still can't fix their bugs themselves with simple scripts

>>59238232
Option 1: Hot corners and Exposé
Option 2: You can 4 finger swipe between virtual desktops and fullscreen apps

Mac OS 10.11 supports some sort of window tiling. Essentially side by side fullscreen apps. Haven't tried it yet

>>59237651
> overpriced
you will never know how it feels to program on xcode

>>59238302
lets say you have three instances of photoshop open, editing 3 different pictures. then you have after effects safari and a file manager open. are you telling me to get to switch between the 3 photoshop instances I need to fullscreen them all and swipe through them?

>>59237651
Asus ZenBook UX501
Double the Memory with a 4k touchscreen and a discrete GPU.
Get rekt macfag.

retina displays suck

only use the non-glossy screens

>>59238341
>battery life
>fit and finish
>longevity
>trackpad
>general build quality
>probably pentile shit

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>>59237651
They're not 'overpriced'. It's just that they're consumer products priced like professional hardware.
>2560x1600 retina display
Shit's glossy as fuck
>best trackpads in existence
Trackpads are the worst input devices in the business
Also they have really crappy chiclet keyboards with broken layouts.
>best build quality
When can that meme finally die? Macbooks have a long history of production errors.
>outstanding battery life
Why even bring that up with the recent 'scandal' about short battery life due to broken Apple software?

I would get one though if they came with matte screens and decent keyboards and of course after I gave early adopters six months to beta test for me.

>>59238379
Trackpad is great, don't use it all that much though because
>4k Touchscreen

Battery life is a good 6-7 hours or so, and the case is this tough as hell brushed aluminum.

Mac air $999

Display
13.3-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit glossy widescreen display with support for millions of colors
Supported resolutions: 1440 by 900 (native), 1280 by 800, 1152 by 720, and 1024 by 640 pixels at 16:10 aspect ratio and 1024 by 768 and 800 by 600 pixels at 4:3 aspect ratio
Storage1
128GB PCIe-based flash storage

Processor
1.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 (Turbo Boost up to 2.7GHz) with 3MB shared L3 cache
Configurable to 2.2GHz dual-core Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz) with 4MB shared L3 cache.

Memory
8GB of 1600MHz LPDDR3 onboard memory

Battery and Power2
Up to 12 hours wireless web
Up to 12 hours iTunes movie playback
Up to 30 days standby time
Built-in 54‑watt‑hour lithium‑polymer battery
45W MagSafe 2 Power Adapter with cable management; MagSafe 2 power port

Graphics and Video Support
Intel HD Graphics 6000

Dell xps 13 $799.99

Processor
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-7100U (3MB Cache, up to 2.4 GHz)

Memoryi
4GB LPDDR3 1866MHz

Display
13.3" FHD AG (1920 x 1080) InfinityEdge display

Video Card
Intel HD Graphics 5500

Hard Drive
128GB Solid State Drive

>>59237811
>not for programming

>>59237651
Paying $1300 for a laptop that is not workstation class is stupid. It's retarded. It's idiotic. It's moron.

I don't have a word for how poor of a choice this is. You are getting ripped off. You don't need it for what you're going to do with it.

Do not spend more than $300 on a laptop unless you can give a very specific reason why you need to. A specific usage scenario. And even then I bet you don't really need it.

>>59237875
>your laptop: Thinkpad from ebay
>your desktop: Dell/Lenovo/HP dual Xeon Workstation from ebay with GPU upgraded

This is the true /g/ way.

I don't get the Macbook hate. Yes, they are pretty expensive, but think of all the stuff you do on it. It's literally your entire life. That's a really small price to pay for all of that. Anyone working a normal job, even a minimum wage job, should be OK with shelling out that much money for a quality product like a Macbook.

>>59238799
t. poorfag

>>59238857
Most people are just childish, they don't even really hate Apple, they hate their customers, those smug scummy hipster fucks who think they have a grasp on technology and proudly tell you that the CPU in the iPhone is called A9 and have no fucking clue what a CPU even does.

>>59237651
>2011 MBP 17 inch
>same price
>1TB SATA 3 SSD
>16GB RAM that isn't soldered
>Core i7 4th gen

2011 MacBooks are best MacBooks.

>>59238799
literally me:
laptop: 2 thinkpads from ebay
desktops: HP for linux shitty shit + Dell for NetBSD shitty shit
proper desktop: assembled gayman rig from used parts from ebay + Windows 10

>>59238799
>tfw my thinkpad is everything
laptop: thinkpad
desktop: thinkpad on docking station with dual monitors

I've had my rMBP and it's ruined me. I never want another laptop that isn't an rMBP. It's too bad the new one is crap. Maybe I can get my hands on a nice 2015 one when it's time to upgrade.

>>59238102
your CPU doesn't emit xenon lighting?

I just replaced my 2011 13" with a 2015 13," and I love it. Worth every penny. There's more to life than hardware specs.

The 2016 MBPs are overpriced, though, especially when you consider you can't even get a 15" screen or 4 USB-C ports without paying for the gimmicky Touch Bar. That's just twisting the customer's arm, and I don't like it.

>>59238325
no. that's what Exposé is for.

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>>59238954
>Core i7 4th gen
>2011

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>>59237651
here's why every apple user is a fucking retard:
>sees apple ads in TV about how user friendly macs are ("computers for the rest of us", aka for idiots)
>friends recommend apple products because they are apple uses themselves
>"minimalistic" design appeals to the retard, he can't predict that the materials used are designed to be so flimsy to break, also ignores how other products are more ergonomic to use since those aren't just slabs of aluminium
>compares $2000 applel product to the only other laptops he's ever used: $300 walmart trash and is amazed how ""premium"" apple is
>begins to use mac OS and since it's a bit more user friendly he believes it's the greatest thing ever
>now stuck in the apple ecosystem, has to buy a new model every 3 years because some of the hardware broke (planned obsolescence)
>likely a dumb poorfag so he has to take a loan just to buy the fucking computers
>even recommends apple to friends and tries to justify his position with unrealistic claims ("muh special functions only apple has", "I have a higher status in society if people see my computer", "it just werks", "muh special application NEEDS mac OS")

>worst of all, he doesn't even notice how much he has been cucked


tl;dr macfags are fucking retarded

>>59237651
Xps 13
High end thinkpad
... maybe some Asus/Acer crap or system 76.

So basicly of ton a equivalent specs for the same price/ sometime cheaper

This exact thread with the same picture is posted regularly here, quit replying to it you faggots.

Sage/report/hide.

>>59237739
Which literally no laptop had until about 2016. I admit the new MacBook Pro is trash, but other mobile workstations didn't have much on the older ones.

>>59239660
You realize that people IRL talk behind your back about how autistic you are, do you?

>>59237875
Patrician non-NEET taste.

>>59238799
>he doesn't even build his own PC

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>>59237870
You send it to Apple and they fix it, no questions asked.

>>59237651
>>Macbooks are overpriced
wait for it....
...
...
>>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop

Everybody ITT can be shot.

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>>59239660
>>now stuck in the apple ecosystem, has to buy a new model every 3 years because some of the hardware broke (planned obsolescence)


You do realize Apple has some of the best customer support in the world, right? And that MacBooks are known to last (and retain their value) for 5+ years?

But say something does break in 3 years. That situation is likely to play out as:

>Hey Apple, my MacBook is broken, and my AppleCare expired last year

>Really, Anon? That's no problem, we'll go ahead and fix it free of charge, because you are such a loyal customer


And that's not to mention the people that have gotten free replacements for their machines.

>inb4 some butthurt anti-Apple faggot starts bitching and claiming Apple is actually terrible

>>59244002
>Apple is sorry to inform you your breath popped one of the 100,000 moisture sensors and now your warranty is void

it may not be 'overpriced' looking at the features and the fact that it has an amazing apple logo, but if you consider the fact that I use a U$ 30,00 thinkpad to very probably do the same thing you do with your U$ 1300,00 notebook, yes, it is overpriced as fuck

>>59237811

>not programming
>UNIX, Bash
>comes with python, c compiler out of the box etc

thanks Windows Call Center ... you did it again!

wtf i love windows for programming now

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>>59244081
Can confirm they don't give a flying fuck if you don't have Apple Care/ Not a recall.

pic unrelated

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General use: Linux > Mac OS > Windows
Technical use: Linux > Windows > Mac OS
Not getting royally fucked by a consumer cult:
Linux >

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>>59244518
>most important things for user experience.

>t. mactoddler

>>59244513

>Technical use: Linux > Windows > Mac OS

t. wintoddler who never used macOS

How fucking stupid are you fucking faggots?! Stop coming to this board.

macOS us literally Unix Based and has a terminal and for the right user its nothing but another Linux Distro ... but you fucking gaymer shits come here and pretend its less technical because it also happens to be easy to use

>>59244539
>its nothing but another Linux Distro

Yeah, good luck changing the DE/theme and using a PM that isn't shit

>>59244642

>being that retarded

educate yourself ... embarassing tbqh

>>59244674

Good argument

>>59244711

not my fault you unironically believe an unix based OS with terminal, bash is less customizable than windows 10 kek

i just stop talking to ebin gaymer youtube comment shill microsoft call center shills on /g/

>>59237651
Thinkpad Carbon? I know mine has better specs and looks better. Not sure on price but in U.S. In Australia I picked the Thinkpad up for same price with better specs.

>>59237651
I am also a Macfag, but you gotta admit Macbooks are overpriced, specially the new ones.

With the XPS 15 you're getting a much better deal, a Kaby quad i7 + GTX 1050ti for what, 1899? The 15 inch retina starts at $2399 (lmao) and gives you a Radeon 450, Skylake quad i7 and only 256GB of storage.

With that said, I would still get the Mac because I really enjoy MacOS and superior build quality. Also I'm not a poorfag.

>>59242233
>he derives pride and worth from electronic lego

I mean I built mine, but it's nothing to be proud of.

>>59237864
I bought my rMBP back in early 2014. From around may 2015 to late 2016 I left it plugged 24/7 and the battery got swollen. Got it replaced along with mobo for free. So I basically got a new laptop for free. Best service is best service

>>59238232
Install spectacle or bettertouchtool.

>>59244721
I don't think that, I specifically responded to "nothing but another Linux Distro" which it clearly is not

>>59239660
>everyone who uses a product is an idiot who can't form his own opinions
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fVrQdz_x9hs

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>>59244770
>i nearly got my face burned off by applel chinktrash b-b-b-but i luv apel!!!!

>>59245002
>I'm gonna pull whatever shit comes out of my ass and post it
>that'll show those macfags
But, anon, that's not what I said.

If you have multiple windows of an application open, the hotkey to flip through them is Command-`

>>59238150
Surface Book is the obvious way forward here.

>>59237651
You forgot the part where it forces you to use a shitty buggy as fuck operating system with terrible drivers.

>>59245002
Why don't they use toughbooks or something similar for these missions? The newer Lenovo models are trash.

>>59237651
Upper level P or X series ThinkPads with 4k, not some shitty 2k mene at the same price. Kys OP

>>59244432
>Literally any warranty service ever

>>59238074
/thread

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>>59246238
>t. mactoddler

>>59237651
Remember the retina! You can't get retina with anything else because retina is best retina, desu.

>>59238074
/thread

>>59238150
The Spectre build quality is basically the same aluminum unibody as the MacBook, like many ultrabooks nowadays
Build quality used to be an argument for macs, now it's just normal and expected

>>59238063
>http://www.siliconbeat.com/2013/08/29/local-man-burned-up-by-apples-response-to-iphone-fire/

>>Guy demands upgrade to newer model phone rather than free replacement of current model

>>"Bad service"

>tfw my 5yo MBA is starting to fail
Literally the best computer I've ever had: light, good battery life, Trackpad is perfect, It just werks.

Honestly I wouldn't be buying an apple computer again since the new MBA are basically tablets and a mbp is too expensive, for not talking about the latest system upgrades (siri and other bloat for the normie)
I'm considering buying a new battery and a new sdd so I can use it for at least 3 years more, when it dies I'll go for the thibkpad meme

>>59248024
Would you recommend getting a 2015 12" MB or a 2013 13" MBPr?
Both are around $900 refurbished.

>>59237875
This is true patrician

>>59238475
>Battery life is a good 6-7 hours or so

LMFAO

>>59244513
>Technical use: Windows > Mac OS

Macfags removed "great keyboards" from the OP's copypasta after the flaming trash that is the 2016 version's keyboard.

>>59244081
>best customer support
Can you point me to Apple's version of 24/7 on-site support that Dell offers please?

They're more expensive because they have their own custom operating system, on top of all those nice little things. The point is, nobody offers a total package solution for a laptop, or even PC. This fact seems to escape everyone all the fucking time and its getting pretty stupid. They are NOT more expensive because of 'premium' hardware shit even though they do make very good machines.

Its all about the operating system.

>>59237811

Its good for programming, video editing, graphic design, etc.

It's terrible for gaming.

>>59248084

Do you understand what patrician means? It might be against popular opinion on here but not popular culture internationally.

>>59248225

Which is why anyone who's not poor and dumb has a MacBook as a laptop and a custom built PC. Any other laptop is total dogshit. Old TwinkPads are also shit. They're more like repair projects than reliable things you can use every day. Any laptop that doesn't have a a tailored OS is dogshit.

>>59248166
Demonstrably false

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>best trackpads in existence
lmfao

>>59248659
What gestures are possible on that?

>>59248659

Trackpoints are fucking shit.

It goes like this Apple trackpad > external mouse > Windows trackpad > track ball >smartphone app for controlling mouse and > GUI navigation with keyboard > using your scrotum against a touchscreen laptop > shouting at your keyboard > prayer to 4th century pagan deity asking for cursor movement > Trackpoint

>>59248718
Mouse >Apple trackpad > Trackpoint >any other trackpad

>>59248732
>Mouse >Apple trackpad

False for anything but gaming

>>59238074
/thread

>>59248718
im sorry but digitizers are better than all those shit

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>>59248178
>going to your mom's basement
pic related

>>59238074
Thread should've stopped here.

>>59237875
Did this for a while, but sold MacBook for X1 carbon

>>59237651
>OS somehow worse than Botnet
>everything is tied to it in firmware
>you look like a twat
>apple ecosystem
>lol whutisagpu?
>dongles
>laptop

You shouldn't be using this for work. Writing and programming are the only exceptions. Good luck testing your code, though.

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>>59237651
Thinkpad W530.

>Clit mouse which is miles ahead of a trackpad
>Has 4 or 8 GB ram, can support up to 32
>Can actually replace battery and thus get infinite battery life as long as you have enough batteries
>Lenovo support, you can always just buy spare parts on your own if they give you the finger
>Space for 2 HDD/SSDs
>Actually has ports
>Discrete graphics card

>Found on used market for around 500 USD

>>59244081
More like
>hey my macbook broke and I'm 1 month out of warranty, thanks to apple somehow ignoring the usual 2 years of EU mandatory warranty, just like they ignore many other EU laws
>well that's unfortunate, here, 150€ for 15 minutes repair and 10€ of components

My friends macbook charger blew up last week and it was 90€ ffs, they usually twice the price for everything.
He's lucky I like messing with PCs but usually every time I help with software/hardware problems I spend 5 times what I would be spending with my thinkpad.

>>59244456
You don't want to use built in python.

>>59237779
Not even /tpg/ wants a new X1C. Just get a
T420 bro. Literally nothing you can't do with a T420 that you can with a new X1C.

>>59250138
Clitmice give you RSI

>>59248321
This. I will never buy an Apple desktop, but I will also never use any other laptop than a rMBP.

>>59237811
>not programming

>>59250138
Advice from a man who lives with his mother.

>>59238224

then why didn't you buy the xps developer edition with the touch screen???

>>59250446
>Buying costlier stuff for nothing makes me richer

>>59250138
It's kinda heavy.
Batteries are expensive, and you can't even swap them without plugging the laptop into a power source or turning it off first.
The display isn't terrible, but it's not that good either.

>>59250538
Does she buy your food too? That's sweet.

>>59250560
What's the use of a light laptop if you're working on a desk? Plus, 6 lb isn't that heavy to drag around.

As for the display, 1080p is pretty decent imo.

>>59250594
You're really trying to deny your poorfaggotry aren't you?

>>59250138

>used laptop

Enjoy months of meticulous research, searching, back and forth with sellers when you receive shit that doesn't work, etc. Nobody with a life has any time for that shit.

>>59237651
>cheapest MBP on Apple's website is $1500
>Dual-core i5
>8gb 1866mhz
Okay, delusional mactoddler. System76 has the Lemur, which has double the RAM, double the NVMe storage, and a superior CPU, costs $150 less. That, and you can hackintosh it easily.

>>59250708
Price was wrong, put 1500 instead of 1300.

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>>59250730
Pics related.

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>>59250763
Versus this

>>59250676
You're really trying to project your poor social and economic standing, aren't you?

>>59237886
>buying a laptop with a screen smaller than 15"
14-inches is too small. Once you experience the glory of a 15-inch screen, there is no going back. It is very portable (I carry around my 2010 15-inch Macbook Pro everyday).

>>59250699
>This is what reddit actually believes

>>59250780
No, this is like buying Red Bull vs Venom/Rip It/other cheap energy drinks
One is a premium one that gets you social standing, the other one is for people who would buy a metal can with just the word Caffeine printed on it if it was cheaper.

>>59250864
Living with you mom is like using energy drinks as analogies. It's sad if you are doing either over age of 18.

You must be 18 to post here.

>>59250960
What's even sadder is when you spend 500$ for a shit laptop and then add another 1500$ to convince yourself that you're not poor.

>>59238232
There's a $1 thing on the App Store that does tiling.

>>59251018
>having to pay for features included on other systems
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59251040
But windows costs $120 :/

>>59237651
Reported for spam
>Can we finally put an end to this meme?
Yes. I'm tired of the macshit meme-posting here. We don't like applel here.

>>59251018
It's called magnet, second top seller on charts.

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>>59251065
Who do you think you're speaking for, retard?

>>59250960
Energy drinks are just a caffeine delivery method that doesn't taste like shit. Unlike coffee, including the $5 starbucks mochaccino with toffee syrup found commonly with apple users.

Its like you like paying a premium for a name brand with little to no quality increase. Do you buy Gucci clothes and drive a Cadillac too? Do you use beats too? Because I buy generic clothes, drive a Ford, and use a pair of M50X's.

>>59251058
search macos tiling wm or amethyst

>>59251058
>paying full price for pro wangblows
Windows is $80 for the cheap license. Also:
>Windows at all
>Not Ubuntu while ReactOS goes x64

>>59250785

What does reddit have to do with not being bothered for the eBay ThinkPad experience? Are you retarded, or just saying 'reddit' for no reason?

>>59251241
There are reputable dealers on Ebay. You buy from them. Since they are a business, it's easy to contact them and then sue them if something does go wrong.

Reddit probably thinks that 90% of thinkpads being sold on Ebay are broken, stolen or a scam.

>>59238074
rekt

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>>59248670
>gestures

>>59237651
>I goofed and bought a mac
>/g/ should stop bullying me for being a sheep

JUST

I was certain that I was blocking ads on this site

>>59250982
You must be 18 to post here.

>>59251137
>Do you buy Gucci clothes and drive a Cadillac too?
I wear Versace and Prada, but I'm not shy of Gucci. I drive a Mercedes.

I don't care about headphones, but if I did, I wouldn't get them from a department store.


It's very quaint of you to have settled for so much in your life.

Help me complete this list /g/, I'm looking for a new laptop to replace my Macbook Pro. Style, weight, noise, heat production are my criteria, *not* performance or operating system (will install GNU/Linux anyway).

Dell XPS 13 (camera looks up my nose wtf)
Lenovo Thinkpad X1 carbon (dat nip mouse tho)
HP Spectre (meh style)
System76 Galago Pro (all the others are ugly)
Purism Librem 13 (not well known, CA geeks)
Schenker Slim 14 (not well known, DE company, style could be better)

(Links for the last two, for your information:
https://puri.sm/
https://www.mysn.de/slim-laptops/schenker-slim14)

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>>59237651
hp 2570p or thinkpad's
>8GB RAM
16gb ram
>NVMe SSDs
even my corpo db cluster don't use it, becouse you don't need that meany iops and there is literally no need for that.
>outstanding battery life
9-12h with 9cell and guess what i can switch to my 6 cell for comfy 6-9 hours.
>best build quality
durability aproved.

only thing that it lacks is display, but i watch movies on 4k anyway.
And about cpu i have 3 virual machines right now on this tiny laptop.

>>59251659
and i have ofcourse 2 tb hdd and 256gb of ssd instead of dvd

>>59251620
>Mercedes
>saying I settled for much
Sorry, I find my truck even more useful than some benz coupe/sedan. It hauls a lot more and can haul that over fairly rough terrain.
M50x is the top-tier of headphones at the price I'm willing to pay for headphones (no more than $200)

Ive been wearing the same style (neutral color t-shirts or button-up shirts, jeans or black slacks, boots or dress shoes) for 5 years and the last time I bought any clothes it was a pair of Deer Stag loafers and a couple of no-name carpenter jeans. That was September 2016.

>>59251620
So your objective in life is solely to show off?

That's like saying you're working to get rich. It's fun for you, but it's really sad.

>>59251735
How do you find time to blog with all of the hauling you do?

>>59251761
My objective is to enjoy the only life I have and to improve networking throughout the globe. If you think that applying yourself and appreciating attention to detail is sad, and that life is meant to be lived with what is put on the shelf for you at Wal-Mart, I would kill myself if I were you.

>>59251807
I manage and do maintenance for a lawn-care company. I mostly get to kick back and relax while the Irish people and Mexicans do all the work, when I'm not fixing one of the weed whackers, mowers or leaf blowers.

>obvious shill thread
>164 replies
Consider suicide, retards.

>>59251883
Well, if you consider enjoying life as buying objects, then I would also kill myself if I had aspirations so small as yours.

I spend my money on flying planes, not buying useless clothes. Getting a few hours of flight in a glider or a Cessna is much more satisfying than wearing a piece of tissue.

>>59245969
because not everyone upgrades hardware every gen like a consumertard

>>59250699
Or you just go on ebay and select one of the dozens of W530s for sale. Is this bait?

>>59251890
I did this after I graduated high school. It was only a 3 truck and trailer operation, 4 eXmarks and a bunch of stihl weed eaters and blowers the employed would always find a way to break.

I pushed for contracts for 3 years straight and eventually sold it, when the market is right, you should too.

>>59251946
Toughbooks have been around since '96. The picture said that the ThinkPads have been launched in over 50 missions due to a deal with Lenovo, so I assumed that means new missions and new ThinkPads as well. Does Lenovo supply them wil old models?

>>59251934
I bet you would kill yourself if you had aspirations. Instead you will die a slow cowards death, or if you're lucky, you'll hit the side of an off-brand mountain. I wouldn't want you to lay aside your virtue signaling to be caught in desirable ranges.

>>59252070
>so I assumed that means new missions and new ThinkPads as well.
It's called reading facts not assuming stupid pseudo facts you make up yourself regarding a subject you don't know anything about

Like I said, space missions don't have the fashion accessory update standards of comsumertards.

>>59238465
yeah work bought me the 2015 MBP and 2016 MBP. Neither have long battery life. I don't have experience with any of their other laptops so can't speak for them

>>59250699
Decided I had enough money for a laptop, went on eBay for an x230, second result is 10km for me, call the guy and meet in one hour (it was Sunday), see the laptop, perfect but with broken battery, manage to pay it 60€ less than the 300 asked, great deal.
It would have take much more to just go to the mall and buy something new

>>59252056
Our op is 6 truck/trailer with 8 scags and an assortment of other landscaping equipment.
Unfortunately, I am not the sole owner. Ownership runs in the family, and partial ownership of it has been consistently a part of each passing father's will, passing on ownership usually to their great-grandson. Same shit happened with me, and I can't convince my granddad to sell. Any advice?

>>59252117
Apparently they use HP ZBooks now, so you were just a retard for no reason, I guess. Thanks for the information.

>>59252096

Again, if your aspirations consist of buying branded products, kys

>>59244456
How does any of that make it better for programming? My windows computer also has Python and c compiling through a terminal.

>>59248741
You're right, it should be mouse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the best trackpad in existence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>apple's trackpad.

>>59252233
Thinkpad is the only laptop certified for ISS use but thanks for proving you can't even read simple facts
http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/thinkpad-laptop-nasa-youtube-spacelab

>>59252347
An article from 2012. Wow, you showed me.

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/workstations/missionz.html
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nasa-ships-hp-zbook-workstations-international-space-jari-h%C3%A4m%C3%A4l%C3%A4inen

MBP is the way to go for laptops, hands down
Everything else Mac is overpriced trash.

>>59252142
You guys are fucking retarded buying these used thinkpads. Some sellers were caught advertising their eBay pages of the think pads here on/g/ a few years ago.

Chromebook is a good option for a laptop. A few chromebooks, you can expand the internal storage and it is very Linux friendly.

I bought a Surface Pro 3, i5 4300u 256gb storage and 8gb RAM, for $449 on Amazon. It was even cheaper on newegg. These were refurbished models. The Surface Pro I received was in perfect condition except it came with a designer sticker cover that I easily pulled off.

>>59252233
>Thanks for the information.
>thanks for not spoonfeeding me
fuck off

I'm waiting to see how the review of the X1C is and then waiting for the WQHD version to come out in June. The specs and price on the Spectre seem nice, and the design is pretty nice too, but aesthetically I really only like Thinkpads of MBPs. If the MBP didn't have such a crappy keyboard now, I probably would have gone with it.

My 2008 MBP was stolen a few years ago and I never replaced it, so I've just stuck with my desktop and then used the computers at work, but I'm missing having a laptop recently.

get this faggotry out of here

>>59252190
What's the cap table look like right now?

>>59238063
>nvme ssds
>not needed
you must enjoy waiting the os to come up, head crashes and clicks of death

>>59238280
>cheap used thinkpad/dell
>not a new one with 3yr warranty

>>59252438
Half your price for better specs and a product actually usable as a laptop on the go (it can stand by itself) wow yeah I'm retarded

>>59252253
Have you ever bought a branded product? There's nothing about brand. If wal-mart made jeans that wore as well as Versace, I would get them there.

What's your point? Why do other people's preferences upset you?

>>59238562
>i3 vs i5
>HD graphics 5500 vs 6000

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Let's get a nice Apple hate thread going so we can remind these faggots where they belong.....fucking Reddit you stupid Macfags.

Macfags GTFO this board is for people who actually know shit about computers.....not silly little Macfaggots like you

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>Le it's worth it!


>Le Daddy's credit card Le XDDDDD


>Le I voted for Hillary Le XD

>>59250763
>not even iris pro graphics

>>59252860
This


Macfags don't even realize how small their little fan club is. Normal people realize there's a reason every other sane human being on the fucking planet uses Windows and Android instead of a stupid overpriced shitty product that loses support after 3 or so years and gets slower and shittier everyday. But instead they come up with shit like "you're just jealous cus you can't afford it haha" Oh yeah I'm really impressed with your Jamal and Jose Nigger tier financing plan for your shitty little iDevice so you can look Nigger rich


How can some people be this stupid?

>>59238762
I work side by side with professionals with 2700€ macbooks with my 200€ thinkpad but hell, given you have the money to spend why not

What i don't understand is people who buy 800€ phones and 1200€ laptops and can't afford basic things

>>59252469
not that anon, but if you're arguing with someone then just present no evidence it looks pretty bad

>>59237651
>opinions, memes and feelings are "Specs" now

>>59251271

>Reddit probably thinks that 90% of thinkpads being sold on Ebay are broken, stolen or a scam.

I've bought from 'reputable dealers', they're far from perfect, especially in product description. You seem to know more about Reddit than me, I can't even navigate that weird fucking site on the occasion people here have linked something.

>>59253145
So I have to dignify retarded assumptions from someone that is incapable of simple fact checks?
Sorry, not in the mood

Mission crit doesn't swap hardware every gen like you would swap consumer trash That was my only point

>>59252839
Wait, weren't you the guy who started?

>>59250446

>>59248624
What? That it's a terrible keyboard? Please do.

>>59249111
Not an argument.

>>59238074
Thank you. I might save this post for future reference

>>59252438
Cuck.

You can get a W530 with the same ram, an i7, 500 GB storage and an iGPU for the same price.

>>59253243
FHD IPS display?

>>59244484
fuck, niggers are so stupid.

>>59253251
Done

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-W530-i7-3630QM-16gb-RAM500-Nvidia-k2000m-lcd-1920x1080-smart-card/122367993915

Or buy it yourself and do an upgrade.

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-6-034-B156HW01-V-4-IPS-HD-Screen-for-ThinkPad-T510-T520-T530-E530-W510-W520-W530-/171508398044

the only people complaining about mac are manchildren who can't manage without their video games

>>59238150
Maybe people can afford them but don't buy them because they suck. And the thinkpad threads tend to be people talking about them because they like them. Any of those people know there are laptops that beat an old thinkpad though they may have a decent argument when talking price/performance/longevity if you buy an old workhorse from ebay. Mainly because price can go so low. But they don't think they're wonder laptops. I get the opposite impression from mac threads where people usually claim no other laptops of similar price compare which has been proven false repeatedly. But if you want some problems with macs >>59238074 seems to be a good place to start.

>>59253351
>t. mactoddler

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You're doing a great job, $0.01 has been deposited to your iTunes account.

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>>59252860
>>59252983

>mfw almost every computer science professor I had owned at least one Mac
>mfw windows fans are STILL acting like you are computer illiterate for using anything other windows

>>59253578
>t. technology illiterate mactoddler

I just really like using OSX...
spilled an entire glass of water on my 2011 MBP when i was fucked up, wouldnt have been a big deal with a thinkpad, but windows 10 is just fucking garbage in comparisson.
using it right now on the desktop

>>59253632
Avatarfagging is against board rules mactoddler.

>>59253672
so sue me

>>59238074
/thread

>>59250385
to be fair, I think you meant mac built in python

my linux came with 3.4 I think, not the latest, but very useable

>>59238102
>Not having xenon plasma tubes as case lighting

>>59253990
Enjoy your toy.

>>59251646
some other guy said XPS Developer Edition
start with that

>>59251646
I had a Dell Inspiron 3451 before getting my Thinkpad. Battery life is good, and its performance is still decent considering its small weight and size. Heat production and fan noise are minimal. It's an old laptop with a 1366 screen though, so it might not be what you want.

>>59253205
Except you were wrong in making a baseless assumption, so good job making a fool of yourself.

>>59250784
>Once you experience the glory of a 15-inch screen

Most laptops are 15inchers anon. Everyone has 'experienced' them.

>>59255283
no I was right
ISS never updated the Thinkpad every model
Not even close

It's funny how you're assuming I'm the other reply as well on an anonymous gook toon board

>>59255413
can't wait russian pwn them via thinkpwn

>>59253990
Congratulations, now look up how long you have until Applel cuts you off from security updates, access to Le app store, installing the latest versions of whatever faggy hipster software you use, oh and of course, THE LATEST FUCKING OS that your machine can definitely run but Applel won't let you because you're a stupid fucking Millennial faggot who will use it as an excuse to go and buy the latest shitty overpriced product because you're a good little cuck and "like OMG I just gotta have it ya know?"


But yeah congrats anon, I'm sure it's great being that fucking stupid and shallow that you allow one of the worst companies in the world to do your thinking for you.....congrats

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>>59256038

>>59253578
That's funny....because every computer science professor I had owned a superior PC such as a Thinkpad running their preferred flavor of Linux. Gee it's almost as if your professors were faggy little "free thinkers" who felt they were required to get a Mac so they could fit in with all the other "free thinkers" ie. dipshit Libcuck professors who can't think for themselves.

>Daily reminder that college is a wonderful place where you can learn a lot, but don't think your professors are somehow spouting the fucking word of God because unfortunately a lot of them are borderline retards who can only make in the Academic world because they can't survive in the real world.......and yeah, Macs are the perfect tools for those kind of people....people who are complete and total fucking tools

>>59237651
>2017
>8gb RAM
>feeling no shame

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>>59253990
>touchscreen on the WRONG HALF of the laptop
lmao tim cuck

>not useful to people who actually want a touchscreen
>greasy smudges for people who don't like touchscreens

it's like the best of both worlds

>>59256038
Thanks Timmy. Don't forget to clean out your piss bottles before bedtime.

>>59238170
>>59237924

I did the same exact thing last year. Found the closest thing to a Windows rMBP replacement I could. I tried to like the XPS 15. I really tried. 3 months in, I sold it and bought a 2015 rMBP. Windows 10 is the fucking WORST. Battery life sucks a dick, the trackpad sucks and entire bag of dicks. Although I don't think there's anything remotely close to a MacBook Pro trackpad in existence. The rest of the features were alright I suppose. Build quality was mediocre. Not as bad as a Walmart special but definitely not what I expected for MacBook-level prices.

Comfy-Level 10,000 of MacBook Pro's is absolutely not just a meme. There just isn't anything like it. I wish there was.

>>59253990
The 2016 design refresh is the bee's knee's. I'm waiting until the next update to get one. Apple is seriously lagging in their dedicated graphics offering. Supposedly that's coming this year along with Skylake but who the fuck knows.

>>59257705
>t. mactoddler shill

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The only laptops worth owning have underside docking ports

>>59257868
One of the best and most overlooked perks of MacBooks is how unbelievably well they retain their value. You can buy now and most likely recoup 75% of the price next year even with a new model out. Try doing that with any other laptop on the market.

but not have the red pad of the godness.

Actually Macbooks are just and edc for starbucks clients

Endgame hipster

>>59253990
Fucking beautiful. Congrats dude.

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>>59257705
2 rupees have been deposited in your streetshitting Applel account Pajeet.

>>59257338
>He thinks someone trying to help him understand basic logic must automatically be a neckbeard.

KEK

The funny thing is even the dumbest neckbeard is 10x smarter than your dumb faggot ass.

Oh and good luck coping with the unspeakable buyer's remorse you'll have pretty soon.....that is if there's even a shred of intelligence left in your tiny brain. If not, then you'll keep sucking Applel cock like a good little faggot cuck boy.

Have fun faggot

>>59257930
>>59258138
>>59258144

With arguments this strong, it's amazing Apple has any market share at all.

>>59257971
I wish this shitty meme would fucking die already. It's absolute bullshit and you know it.

Faggots like you just tell yourself this to make your buyer's remorse a little more bearable

>>59258199
>>59258214
>>59258178


Lmfao linux babbys btfo'd

>>59258178
Nice selfie you got there

my mac still looks nicer than your windows
faggot

>>59258289
Wait, now I'm confused....is this you?

I thought the first pic was you but ya know most Macfags are Libcucks as well and this image definitely fits your personality much better

>I got BTFO, better start dumping my ugly people folder
Hilarious

>>59237651
I got a 6month old mac air for £500. does everythign i need of it, boots into nix/windows if i desire. Main points are it's lightness and portability, for going through airports/hotels.
Suck it.

>>59258348
This is the equivalent of a libtard screaming "YOU'RE A RIGHT WINGED RACIST" after losing an argument

>>59238074
nothing you posted is an actual drawback though
give me 1 (one) viable alternative to a macbook

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>>59258435
>le ur wrong maymay

>>59248225
they're just fine for gaming.
sure they don't have a gtx 1080800808080ti turbo edition in them, but even my 2012's 650m still plays most games just fine.
>>59248659
that's not a trackpad
and I'd take the mac's trackpad over the keyboard nipple any day

>>59238102
Maybe he wants a laptop with the Xbox 360's CPU.

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>>59258384
>t. mactoddler

>>59253369
>Maybe people can afford them but don't buy them because they suck.
Or because they're contrarian hipsters trying to live vicariously through their plastic consumer toys, since most people who can afford them do buy them and obviously have no problem with them.

>And the thinkpad threads tend to be people talking about them because they like them.
And what, everything else is just shills? Could you not say the same of ThinkPad threads since there are lots of resellers who would love nothing more than to convince a bunch of middle-income hipsters to move their inventory of ancient shit nobody else wants?

Thinkshitters are fucking annoying, and this is coming from a guy who likes and collects them with a 6ft bookshelf's worth of them.

>>59237875
pin this post please.

>>59245002

>he thinks the ISS is in space

>>59258812
(He is.)

>>59258812
I actually owned an early 2015 rMBP and sold it only 4 months later.

Yeah I can afford your "le rich people only" computer shit.

Luckily I sold it to some dumb cunt on Amazon for only fifty bucks less than what I paid for the piece of shit. But no I'm the absolute fucking opposite of jealous, I consider myself lucky to have woken the fuck up before it was too late and become an Appledrone cuck like yourself

>>59259186
But tell us again about how their value holding is a myth.

>>59259186
people like this exist

HAHAHAHAHA The Macfag deleted his post.

Maybe it had too much Aids even for his faggot ass?

>>59258445
>gets wrcked
>yeah but that doesnt matter
>macfags

>>59259555


>Macfags confirmed for not being able to fucking read


You must have missed the part where I said "some dumb cunt" you seriously think a sane person would pay near msrp for a 4 month old CuckBook Pro? Oh wait, I forgot I was talking to an Apple cuck, of course people like you think that's a great deal kek

Anyways I'm done arguing with you faggots.

Just remember when you're walking through a library, successful business, grade school, college, government building etc.really anywhere REAL WORK gets done and notice which OS they're running and see it's either Windows or Linux, remember that you're the outsider, you're the special little snowflake faggot who thinks they're "too good" or too much of a "free thinker" to use the operating systems and true practical hardware that was designed not with faggotry and planned obsolescence in mind, but true innovation in mind, and then ask yourself if you really made the right choice whilst crying about how much money you've wasted on your Macfaggotry.............faggot

>>59260166
>a bunch of subjective blathering, trivial bullshit nobody cares about, cherrypicked tech support, nostalgic appeals, general autism and all kinds of other things with like two actual links to an issue
Not really wrecked.

>>59260246
He was referring to you and your extreme autism, faggot.

>>59237875
>desktop
27-inch retina iMacs are pretty cool and the displays are stunning. They're also not bad creative studio workstations, depending on what CPU/GPU you go for

>>59238222
I think performance was upgraded well enough on the 2016 model to the point where the m3 option is actually viable for casual use now, but $1299 for m3 model is just too much. $1099 would be more reasonable

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>>59261790
>stunning
The only stunning about it is how fucking shit it is and how gullible mactoddlers can be.

>>59237875
this is correct.

some day the thinkpad meme will end

>>59253243
Price is $640 and the laptop is much bigger than the Surface Pro 3 you God damned retard.

>>59238074
>literally shilling razer and msi

>>59258670
> Random people on the internet go on /g/ to shill old thinkpads hoping someone falls for it and goes on ebay to buy their particular thinkpad.

K dude
But the point of the post is that the "thinkshitters" know an old thinkpad has serious limitations and take those into account. Not so much coming from the macfags. And the "people just like them" line was poorly stated but it just means their attachment to thinkpads becomes taste at a point and most know this. One can attack taste but its a hard thing to do because taste isn't really logical. And that's ok. If a macfag just goes "fuck it, i like it!" there really isn't much to be said. But they usually don't do that. They say there isn't anything on the market which beats a mac pro for its price. That isn't taste, its just wrong.

>>59261849
show the price too you fucking 7agg0t. 5k dell monitor is more expensive than an all-in-one computer with 5k screen which is imac.

>>59264111
>mactoddler can't afford real professional equipment so he settles for mediocre "prosumer" hipster trash

Not even surprised.

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>>59237651
>Razer are overpriced
>Ok, show me a laptop with 3 screens
>...

Can we finally put an end to this meme?

>>59250763
owo what's this

Mac laptops are great if you have the money. Any other laptops are cancer. That said, I'm staying away from the new ones because i hate the touchscreen memebar and because I always use Linux on them.

>>59264427
lol that's fucking ridiculous

>>59237651
Reddit still doesn't know how to use greentext.

>>59237895
You can't thread yourself, fucking faggot.

>>59237870
Or fix it yourself. I do.

Upgrades are shit though.