>1km = 1000m >1kg = 1000g >1kl = 1000l >1kHz = 1000Hz

its just numbers

>1000 is 1111101000 in binary
>1024 is 10000000000 in binary
gee, I wonder

>>59219159
>We should use a decimal definition of unit to a binary unit.

>>59219159
can you delete yor thread?
Even the intel shills are doing a better job at trolling amd for broken benchmarks

>muh exploiting binury phenomena instead of 10 different voltage levels for base 10
computers were doomed from the start.

>>59219159
Are you baiting or genuinely retarded?
you know what a byte is don't you

>>59219277
Yeah, almost like we shouldn't use base 10 scientific notation to describe groups of bytes then.

>>59219296
That's exactly my point retard

>>59219449
8 bits, I don't see your point.

>>59219489
>Yeah, almost like we shouldn't use base 10 scientific notation to describe groups of bytes then.
Nobody does though.

>>59219159
But it's correct in macOS, it's only Windows that uses binary prefixes labeled as decimal.

>>59219489
>Yeah, almost like we shouldn't use base 10 scientific notation to describe groups of bytes then.

Haha what?

>>59219983
Huh, looks like they changed to the proper standard recently then, they used to use the wrong prefix too.

>>59219969
>>59220000 (checked)
What do you think Kilo is?

>>59219159
>1KB = 1000B
>1KiB = 1024B

>>59220033
>What do you think Kilo is?
context?

Honestly I'm really confused about what op is getting at here

>>59219437
>why worry about 2 things when we could worry about 10???

>>59220059
i've only seen this right in France

>>59220062
>Yeah, almost like we shouldn't use base 10 scientific notation to describe groups of bytes then.
>base 10 scientific notation
>Kilo

>>59220073
Windows won't adopt to standards which makes things confusing for everyone.
Kilo is a base 10 notation meaning x1000, but Windows uses it to mean x1024.
Pre 1998 everyone used Kilo to refer to x1024 even though it wasn't correct.
In 1998 the term kibibyte was created as a new standard to refer to x1024, and kilobyte was corrected to refer to x1000.

A lot of people switched but Microsoft is still holding out, displaying KiB as KB.

Hard drive manufacturers have it right though, and that's the reason everyone thinks they're getting ripped off because their 1TB drive is only 931.323 "GB" in windows.
In reality the size is exactly as advertised and windows is just using the wrong unit, because 1TB = 931.323 GiB.

Basically it now means that when someone writes "KB", "GB" etc. you have no idea what amount of bytes they actually mean, despite attempts to standardise it.

>>59220204

You really ought to delete this thread and try it again with what you wrote in that post since your original post made no sense compared to that one.

>>59220204
microsoft ruins everything yet again

Only boring fucktards with actual autism give a shit about this kinda pointless crap.

>>59220326
get the fuck off of /g/ then you retarded fucking faggot

>>59219159
>Winbabies and Macfags will defend this.
macOS uses proper units (whether they're binary or decimal I don't remember).

Only Currysoft products lag behind

>>59220271
I assumed people on a technology board, especially where everyone constantly switches OSes, would have encountered the GB / GiB issue at some point.
Perhaps not.

>>59220326
It's not just "muh autism", this is an actual issue because if I write "5 GB" you have no idea how many bytes I'm referring to.
Standards are extremely important.

>>59220204
Why'd they have to pick such stupid names for the binary units?

>>59220380
Probably because it's as close as possible to the base 10 units while still being different.
They only look stupid because you don't commonly see them.

>>59220204
I solved this autism by using plain K, M, G, and T, which is standardized across Unices to be powers of 1024.

The real autism is POSIX demanding disk sizes to be in 512 Byte blocks instead of 1K.

>>59220204
>Hard drive manufacturers have it right though
t. jew

>>59220422
he's right tho.

hard drive manufacturers follow proper standard that's widely available on iso/iec website

>>59220376
>It's not just "muh autism", this is an actual issue because if I write "5 GB" you have no idea how many bytes I'm referring to.
5120 Megs.
Otherwise you are an idiot.

>>59220440
G (and not Gi) suggests 5000.

>>59220440
>Megs
Is that MB or MiB? :^)

Also it should be 5000MB

Which does 4chan use?

>>59220456
>>59220462
As excepted, you're idiots.

>>59220484

4chan is not a person, you double brainlet.

>>59220491
solid argument bub.

>>59220501
I'm talking about the sizes of images that the website displays, you mongoloid

>>59220507

You can see what it uses in top right corner of every image you triple brainlet.

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>>59220484
>>59220507
This image is 509,850 bytes on my computer so lets find out.

>>59220491
kill yourself

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>>59220484
>>59220507
This image is 128949 bytes

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>>59220557
>>59220560
MOOOOOT WHY

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>>59219159
>1kl = 1000l

never in my life i've seen kiloliters being used

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>>59220501
t. triple brainlet

>>59220612
Are any prefixes actually used for liters besides mL?

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>>59220572
Clover uses KiB

Mobilefags win yet again

>>59220642
Is phoneposting the only true way to use /g/ after all?

>>59220638
deciliters
centiliters

>>59220638
I think that most common is hl.

I've seen dal used in milk jugs that the local Dairy Cooperative purchases from my uncle's farm for God knows what reason.


In medicine we don't even use ml anymore, just cubic centimetres.

>>59219159
>school
>teacher asks how many bits in 32 "kB" are on a paper worksheet
>I ask him if he means whether a "kB" was 1000 or 1024 bytes
>he looks at me like I'm retarded and asks why I would ever think it's 1000
>say kilo is an SI prefix which means 1000, while there are "kiB" which mean 1024
>he asks me where I heard that from
>show him wikipedia page on kibi- prefixes
>"huh, I guess some people use it, but it's not the standard."
>point out the part of the wiki page where it says it's the standard
>he says he'll read up on it later, but meant 1024
From that day on I always hated this topic.

>i don't know how binary and base 2 work

>>59220899
Your teacher is right. No serious developer use kilo for 1000 except Americans, but they never understand units.

Actually, 1 kB is 1000 B, it's 1 KiB that is 1024 B. Many get this wrong, which is unfortunate.

>>59220941
>how many bytes are in 128kB?
>131,072
makes perfect sense

>>59220821
>>59220832
Why the hell would you use those? Everything's much easier when you only use multiples of 1000.

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>>59220988
Many bar glasses and receipts are written in centiliters. You probably noticed.
Why? Because it gives easy whole numbers you can calculate easily.

>>59220968
There are exactly 128kB in 128kB (ie 128*2^10). Is it that hard?

There are exactly 1kg in 1kg (ie 10^3). Why do you think we use mutliplicator suffix?

>>59221034
How is 4 cl easier to use than 40 ml?

>>59221046
big numbers confuse the bartenders
Either that, or because it is easier to visualize 4 cl than to visualize 40ml. Not for you since you never use the system, but it probably is for people that do it for a living.

>>59220439
Technically they deliver what the say so 1TB is 1 trillion bytes. But the man on the street buying will see 1TB and expects it to show up as 1TiB on his system.

Do HDD manufacturers really save a lot by chopping off the last 92.67GiB?

>>59221034
So nobody asks for fucking 32 ml.

>>59221240
nah, most drinks are standardized to whole number of cl, the big drinks are often to liters, like 0.5L.
There are some rules, like "shots" are always 2cl, "big shots" are 4cl, then there are markings on the glass as shown in that picture >>59221034
I doubt there are any drink that need to be so precise that you deal in ml, but I'm not a bartender.

>>59219159
computer storage is talked about in terms of binary numbers; 1024 is 2^10, 1048576 is 2^20, 1073741824 is 2^30. The clean, simple powers and the lack of having to convert back and forth between binary and decimal make them the best choice for standardized units.

>>59221375
>make them the best choice for standardized units.
says fucking who

>best choice for standarization is something nonstandard
ebun

>>59221375
Which is why they are standard units. Just not the ones you're thinking of.

>>59219159
Congratulations, you have made the the most profoundly retarded post in the history of /g/. I'm sure your parents must be proud.

>>59221408
You don't count in computers in decimal.

>>59221743
Not really difficult when "the history of /g/" to you is probably the last 2 days.

1 b = 2^0
1 Kb = 2^10
1 Mb = 2^20
1 Gb = 2^30

>>59222752
I've never heard of anyone measuring bits using powers of 2

>>59219159
Because of hex, thus binary.

e.g. my virtual page is 4096 bytes = 0x1000 bytes,1000000000000 bits, 1 page.

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>>59219159

>>59219159
>>1kB = 1024B
Incorrect. 1KB = 1024B
It is a different unit.

>>59219159
wrong. macfags are shown the appropriate sizes as in SI prefixes.

>>59220832
1ml is cubic centimeter, it's just more applicable to solid volumes also

>>59221035
The Kilo-prefix starts with a capital K bro

>>59221408
Says the computer you dipshit

>>59220941
>No serious developer use kilo for 1000

what the fuck is a "serious dev?"

some winbabby professor that teaches other winbabby shitlords like you?
or some unix beard faggot who still thinks shit like LSB SysV > systemd and has literally no argument other than "muh bloat"

>>59224410
No. You can do what you want.

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>>59224421
?????

>>59219159
it's base 2 you fucking faggot

>>59224569
how does that explain >>59224547 ?

>>59223580
Kek, saved.

Just found this

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20090611-00/?p=17933

>If Explorer were to switch to the term kibibyte, it would merely be showing users information in a form they cannot understand, and for what purpose? So you can feel superior because you know what that term means and other people don't.

Wew lads, didn't realise this was the reason people used correct standards. /g/ BTFO once again.

>>59224462
>serious dev
Skilled ones.

Reminder that Americans are irrelevant when its about units. So even if I respect Knuth his advice about kilo is irrelevant.

I never met skilled coders who don't use kilo = 2^10 when about bits. And I never met skilled coders who don't use 2 spaces indentation.

No you don't know what a skilled coder is.

>>59220059
>>59220899
>>59220948
This is the real answer.

>>59224766
ok child

except binary prefixes are standardized by yuro organizations as well.

>>59224687
wow M$ is so cool.

it's more like Explorer and improperly using standards, is so ingrained into kernel and userspace windows code that it's virtually infeasible to fix it so instead this pleb faggot deflects using childish insults because most people are too stupid to appreciate the lack of ambiguity in using proper standards that don't overlap with SI metric prefixes.

>>59225182
Kek, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was the actual reason.

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4chan
Adobe
Google
MS

tons of tech companies use 1KB = 1024 bytes.. Not KiB shit.

Apple isn't consistent either.

See pic related.

8GB of RAM? That should technically be called 8GiB...

People who complain about this are retarded though. If they think base 10 is better, then why use base 2 units on their OS instead of base 10?

This is what Apple does which is why their OS shows the full 256GB or whatever HD space they have, whereas other OS's don't. Why don't freetards use the same system as HD makers?

>>59220000
Quads confirm OP is a fucking retard

>>59219159
Your picture literally shows that
1kB = 1000B

I fully recognize this. Kilo denominates 1,000. Mega denominates 1,000,000.

It makes no sense to call something a kilobyte when it's not 1000 bytes.

1024 being. Referenced as a kibibyte is more than okay with me.

>>59224398
>1 ml is equal to 1 cubic centimeter
>not equal to 1 cubic millimeter

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>59220642
> Dashchan uses KB
Based Russians.

>>59225200
I'm all for standards but these gibi mebi kibi names sound like shitty bird chirps. Horrible unit names.

If you want to change the current ones, at least come up with something that doesn't make you look like a retard pronouncing them.

Keebee, beebee, meemee, weenie. Infantile crap.