Why are used thinkpads more recommended than Chromebooks on here?

>Palmrest
Glad my new Chromebook comes with a palmrest! I was a bit concerned it didn't, given the shit build quality of any off-the-shelf $200 machine. ThinkPad or bust, faggot. Reliability doesn't lie.

>>59210742

Plastic piece of trash

>>59210851
Chromebooks are the most reliable platforms to ever be released. They just work. Not much except for a few niche programs that probably only your (((employer))) has seats for on a desktop or the company's laptop.

If you want a computer for gaymen you should kys.

>>59210851
Chromebooks are designed for k-12 schools. They're designed to hold up to abuse from children.

>>59210889
Have you actually read any reviews for the CB13? It has flaws, but build quality is not one of them.

>>59210927
Chromebooks are bought by K-12 schools because they're literally the cheapest computer with a warranty to buy in bulk. I went at a K12 school two years ago where everyone was given out Chromebooks -- you wouldn't believe how many of these things broke or died (hint: so many that the supplier stopped shipping replacements after half the school year).

>>59210926
>ThinkPad = "computer for gaymen"
OK.

>>59210742
It doesn't have the ~Lenovo~ or ~IBM~ badge so it doesn't make me feel like an important scientist supercoder astronuclear physicist working at NASA.

>>59211000

I went to my dad's company (he works at Nintendo). You wouldn't believe how many thinkpads they blew through. His office building was like Auschwitz for thinkpads.

>>59210927
>They're designed to hold up to abuse from children.
I call bullshit. I work in retail and I check and restore chrome books daily. I've handled hundreds of chromebooks from various manufacturers I have to restore them and psychically clean them. They cut the biggest corners on chromebooks so the margin the manufacture makes is better.

>>59210742
>buying a walled garden iClone
lel.

>>59211094
And I'm a thinkpad repair technician. I've literally had dozens of t420s come in in a single day.

But seriously, compared to $200 Windows laptops that aren't designed for education, Chromebooks are typically designed to handle wear and tear better. My n22 has a matte plastic finish that is hard to scratch and a spill proof keyboard. It's also THICC because drop protection or whatever. I haven't tested that though.

Anyways, the CB13 is designed more for enterprise than education anyways, this is irrelevant.

Google should have sent me one

I owned an Acer 14 Chromebook for 5 months and it was mostly good, the battery life was GOAT, performance was great, build was good, but the OS restrictions were so shit.
I had to change back to W7 in order to keep my sanity.

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>>59211173
But it literally takes 3 seconds to disable OS verification and 5 minutes to install any other OS you want. It's hardly a walled garden, and Google's walled garden is pretty different from Apple's walled garden.

>all aluminum
>1080p or better IPS display
>some midrange ARM SoC would be fine
>maybe clone the Macbook Air form factor
>around $350 price point
Why is this so difficult for manufacturers? Seems like it would be a winning formula. Simple, cheap, fast enough, sturdy, good looking.

>>59211287
The Samsung Chromebook + meets all of that for $450, and I think Best Buy might still be doing their promoting where they'll give you $100 for bringing in an old laptop to trade in for the CB+.

>>59211324
seems like the HP Chromebook 13 is vastly superior

>>59211185

>i lost my argument vs thinkpads

>welp, time to shit on the easiest target: regular $200 Windows laptops.

You fucking retard shill kys yourself.

>>59211324
>>59211346
>terrible battery life in practice
Mehhh

>>59211324
I got my wife's 2016 Macbook Air new for $550, really hard to justify $450 on a random Samching Chongbook when I can have a PCIe SSD, macOS, more RAM, ... for not much more

I'm looking for the lower price point for these Chromebooks

>>59211347
>comparing Chromebooks in the context of their competition makes me a shill

>>59211376
The MBA starts at $999 new. If you're in some situation where you can get a new MBA for $550, thats great for you, but the vast majority of us can't.

>>59211023
Go to /tpg/ and ask if anyone uses their computer to do gaymen. I dare you.

>>59211415
>The MBA starts at $999 new. If you're in some situation where you can get a new MBA for $550, thats great for you, but the vast majority of us can't.
you can get them for less right off of the outlet a lot of the time, just fyi :)

even supposing that it does start at 1k and you can't get it for less (hypothetically), I still think that $450 is better put toward the $1k MBA than wasted on these landfill food computers with glaring flaws

I wish they'd do some innovation or rethink their paradigm
>they only ever put atom SoCs in really shitty plastic enclosures
ugh

>shit cpu
>shit battery life with non-chrome os
>shittiest keyboard

Yea sure kid, where do I sign up?

>>59211347
>regular $200 Windows laptops.
>the most recommended laptop by /g/

Original post:
>Why are used thinkpads more recommended than Chromebooks on here? For $210, you can get a new Chromebook...


I think we're done here.

>>59211438
Doesn't the MBA still have a 1440x900 TN panel? I can't believe /g/ is actually defending the throttlebook.

>>59211447
Did you even reply to the right person?

Chromebooks have way lower CPU, a bit more modern guess but PITA to get chrubuntu on it etc

>>59211462
>Doesn't the MBA still have a 1440x900 TN panel? I can't believe /g/ is actually defending the throttlebook.
Yeah, it's the weakest point of the machine. I have an x220 with its shitty IPS display and the MBA is definitely superior to it. Neither are great.

My wife (and most normies in general) doesn't really care, she'll get my rMBP once I upgrade anyway.

>>59211324

>$450

lmao I just got a haswell Latitude for $400, there's no way i would spend roughly the same amount for this "laptop".

You should really go back to /Chink Shit General/

>>59211478
You can get Chromebooks with i3s and i5s. All this "Chromebooks are bad because so many of them are cheap" is a pretty shit argument, it's the same argument normies use to justify over spending on Macbooks.

>>59211438
k dad sure

>>59211529
>uses a latitude
>condescendingly tells someone else to go back to csg
o i am laffin

>>59211546
cringe

>>59211529
I highly doubt your Latitude has a 1440p IPS screen and can be converted into a tablet for $400.

>>59211474
Yes.

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>>59210742
Hijaking this thread

Who is the person who should buy a chromebook/netbook besides children learning how to use computers?

I was just thinking that since my current laptop is dying and I dont game ever on it, would it be worth it to not go the usual route and aim for a budget gaming laptop at around or below $900. and instead go for something like a chrombook? If all I want is a good CPU, an SSD, and good build quality that is a bit light, wouldnt I fit this demographic and save money by going into it?

>>59211598
I bought a Chromebook because I have a gaming desktop, but I wanted something for comfier shitposting/media consumption.

>>59210927
kek. omfg. i almost pissed myself laughing.

you gotta be fucking kidding me. dude, my wife is a high school math teacher and her school is currently in a lawsuit with a supplier that stopped fulfilling warranty requests three months into the school year because high school kids were wrecking them without even fucking trying. if you gave them to anyone younger, holy shit they'd be even worse.

>>59211625
My dad is also suing ebay for selling his company (Nintendo) so many faulty used t420s.

>>59211447

>hurr thinkpads suck chingchongbook is better

>'but you're wrong you dumb fuck'

>no i swear, the $450 one is way better you can get it at $350 i'm not a shill chromebooks are way more durable, right guise? so we settled this right, chromebooks are better right?


Yea i think we're done.

Chuwi hi13 Chuwi Hi13 has a 13.5 in 10 point multi-touch screen with a 3,000x2, 000 ice, so is chuwi 14. Still sketchy over old Thinkpad tho

>>59211543

Let's see the prices for i3 and i5

>>59211651
A new piece of shit is more durable than a 5 year old piece of shit, why is this controversial?

>>59211649
that was almost funny. if you tried adding more dank to the memes, you might have something next time faggot.

>>59211598
Solid for note taking for cheap. In the same position as you and considering cb path too.

I have a Toshiba Chromebook 2 2015 model and for the $280 I spent, it's fucking great. ChromeOS only fault really is terrible file manager

>>59211675
Around $400-$500.

>>59211686

A new $300 chinktop is more durable than a 1,500 laptop from 2012 ?

Sure, shill, chomebook rules!

Where's the referal link, I want to order a couple right now.

>>59210742
I can't find a Chromebook 13 7310 for anywhere near that price.

>decent processor
It has a Broadwell i3-5005U. It's power efficient, but definitely not as powerful as an i5-2520M you would find in an X220 or T420.

You can also get an IPS version of the X220 too.

>>59211686
>implying a 2017 ferrari is more durable than a 1990 F150

age does not imply a lack of durability. chromebooks have shit build quality. it's a fact. you're not going to get excellent build quality for less than $400 in something *brand new*. if it's that cheap, it's either old, or a shitload of corners were cut in the production of it so that it can be sold at such a low price point.

$200 thinkpads today were likely $1000 thinkpads when they were new. $200 chromebooks today are $20 at goodwill next month. just fuck off already.

>>59211746

>$500 chromebook

this joke has gone too far.

>>59210742
They are too addicted to their 1280x800 TN 11000K screens on their chinkpads.

>>59211721
It's just weird because I was getting excited considering buying a new laptop since my current one has always been shit, but then I just never considered getting a laptop that cant game.

I would spend 99% of my time just going on the internet or writing essays, but it would be nice to know that the CPU and SSD are going to last a long while and chromebooks just dont scream quality. Or to even play Dark Souls, that would be nice too

>>59211563

So this is a shittier x230t ?

>>59211748
How the fuck am I a shill? I haven't told you to buy any specific brand of Chromebook, so I'm clearly not being paid by any manufacturer. I'm also advocating removing Chrome OS and installing a different OS, which removes Google's main source of profit on Chrome OS. You have no evidence that I'm a shill, it doesn't logically hold up. The t420 came out 5 years ago, even the most high quality laptops from 5 years ago are falling apart today.

>>59211762
The picture I posted is literally from the Dell outlet a few minutes ago, but I'm not going to post a link because apparently I'm a shill.

>>59211807

>a T420 falls apart

Top kek no it doesn't, shill.

Fuck off with your forced subparbook made specifically for 3rd world children and Xanax soccer moms.

>>59211773
How? This is /g/, are you afraid of installing another Linux distribution to get more features? A $500 Chromebook is a better deal than a $500 Windows laptop for the technologically literate because the Windows laptop has to sacrifice some hardware to pay for the Windows license at that price, while Chromebooks don't. Unless you are a retard who is afraid to press escape + refresh + power and follow the on screen prompts to install a Linux distribution, there's very little reason to buy a Windows laptop at that price.

>>59210926
>They just work.

kys

>>59211859
YOU are the shill. You are advocating for purchasing hardware from a specific brand. I haven't advocated giving any specific company money. How much is lenovo paying you?

>>59211287
2013 Pixel. Downside being poor battery life.

>>59211807
>even the most high quality laptops from 5 years ago are falling apart today
>falling apart today

kek. you do know that you can, right now, go to mac of all trades and buy a 2007 intel macbook with a 2 year warranty, right? and that's twice as old. why would a company offer a warranty on something that's falling apart? that'd be one shit business model. and we're talking plastic unibody shitty macbooks, not even the decent aluminum ones.

a shitload of thinkpads being sold today sat in an IT department storage room in a government building totally unused after their initial audit and are still in brand new condition. you can easily get a thinkpad that's near-mint from 5+ years ago.

i think chinkpads and shillbooks are both shit, but you act like 5 years is some kind of huge long time when there are parts that were manufactured 5+ years ago being put in brand new laptops right now.

>>59211287
You can get a Surface pro 3 for $400.

>>59211877

>underpowered shit tier U series cpu for $500

>b-but windows laptops are the shit ones


my body cant handle this amount of lmaoing

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can't buy these fucking things, been trying since the pixel was annouced

>>59211923
Shitposting from a 2008 Macbook. But I've used it since then. I also have a few 2008 to 2013 Thinkpads, but I think the a Macbook of a given vintage is generally better than a Thinkpad to be honest.

>>59211923
What the fuck has happened to /g/? I advocate buying a cheap laptop and installing Linux on it, and at least two people have told me that Macs are better now.

>but you act like 5 years is some kind of huge long time
My macbook that I received as a gift barely lasted 3 years and I rarely took it out of my room.

i was thinking about buying t430 thinkpad

what chromebooks are in that range and what's the difference?

this thinkpad is i5, 8gig ram, intel hd 4000 and 180gb ssd

chromebook=wannabe macbook

>>59211950
Yes, Windows laptops at or under $500 have mobile processors too.

Why do you want to pay for a Windows license that you'll never use?

>>59211923
>>59211768

Stop using logic and common sense please.


Thank you.


Btw you get a $30 discount if you use my promo code DpQ38zPoo2Loo when purchasing a Samsumg Chromebook.

>>59212003
Whats the price of the t430? Prices vary a lot depending on the condition of used laptops.

>>59212022
Now this is shitposting.

>>59212048
for the one i mentioned, 290 euro

supposed to be in very good condition

>>59211995

>why do people shit on me for telling them to buy a shitty laptop?

>>59211995
oh, i'm not saying macbooks are good. i'm just saying that if you can buy a 10 year old macbook with a 2 year warranty (making it 12 years old when it's out of warranty) then obviously a 5 year old durable as shit (but fucking hideous) laptop isn't going to be falling apart.

i would rather have a recent System76 machine, personally... i'm not overly fond of any of the thinkpad, macbook, or chromebook models out there. though i will probably end up buying a chromebook anyway just because they're cheap as fuck.

T430 just not much of an upgrade from t420, and big keyboard change if that matters. Like most cases, if I find good deal on it tho...

>>59210742
>16gb storage

>>59212108

B-but it's upgradable

>>59212076
I am done with this board.

>>59212066
5 year old laptops with 1366x768 TN panels and shitty battery life somehow aren't shitty laptops now?

>>59212062
The 2013 Pixel is probably the closest in specs and price to what you're looking at.

>>59212224
>5 year old laptops with 1366x768 TN panels and shitty battery life somehow aren't shitty laptops now?
Spit out that redpill right now, mister!

Where would you go to learn about the basic differences between desktop and server hardware ? I don't think I actually would do it but I want to entertain the idea of building a desktop from used server parts and to put a theoretical build together I would need to know how it actually works.

>>59212224

Not really, I got 6 hours battery life, a decent 900p display, a 128GB msata ssd and two 1TB hard drives on my five year old "windows laptop" that is suppose to "fall apart". Still in mint condition because you know, it was a $1500 piece of high end magnesium rollcage with a 10/10 keyboard and an objectively better cpu than your flimsy Gookbook.


Now fuck off stop bumping this thread with this samefagging horseshit.

>>59211563

I guess you're right, it cant be converted into a celeron powered 10 inch tablet with 2 GB DDR3 and 16GB eMMC storage.

fuck, you got me, I give up.

>>59212467
ARM processors these days are good enough that you can use an ARM powered convertible with a 2400x1600 screen and 4gb ram to do 99% of what people do with laptops. I know you're probably going to call me retarded for this, but the screen is the most important part of a device intended for media consumption. So far, the only laptops that I know of that have 1440p (give or take for different aspect ratios), IPS screens for under $500 are Chromebooks.

>>59212341
900p TNs are still garbage in 2017. Your laptop is also a lot thicker and heavier than mine to get the same battery life because it uses an older, more power hungry processor. Laptops are supposed to be portable and good for media consumption. Heavy laptops with TN screens are bad for that.

Keyboards are subjective, I don't like thinkpad keyboards.

>>59210742
>Why are used thinkpads more recommended than Chromebooks on here?
Why buy a new low end laptop that boots into a web browser when you can buy a high end used device that works like a normal computer?

>>59212341
Hahaha, he lists off the shelf hard drives as a boon to his shitty laptop! Is that where you keep your Chinese cartoons!? hahahahaha

I've never actually understood the obsession with thinkpads here. I hated using them in high school.

>>59212651
Because you have to press three buttons on the keyboard and insert a USB stick to install a Linux distribution to use it like a normal computer.

Why would you buy a used device when it already has wear and tear, no warranty, and there's the risk that some pedo stored CP on it and you'll get arrested for possessing it?

>shit keyboards
>shit screens
>locked down OS
>botnet in hardware
i could go on

>>59212555
>ARM processors these days are good enough

kek

>>59212758
>>shit keyboards
subjective

>>shit screens
Most models can be easily upgraded, a lot do come with IPS screens, and used thinkpads have TN screens with lower pixel densities.

>>locked down OS
Again, you have to press three button to remove it. This should also be used against Thinkpads since they come with Windows pre installed.

>>botnet in hardware
What hardware that's connected to the internet isn't a part of the "botnet"?

>>59212793

>I'm not a shill I swear

>>59212793
>subjective
no pretty much everybody agrees that chicklet boards are shit

>upgraded
who is going to upgrade the screen in a $200 chinkbook?

>you have to press three button to remove it
on every chromebook? lots are totally locked down, and you never know when they will change this feature

>accepting the botnet
lel

>>59212803
>shilling for used products

>>59212779
>I've never used one
I can watch 1440p videos and have several tabs open and everything works smoothly.

>>59211238
>Google's walled garden is pretty different from Apple's walled garden.
This is no longer true since Android 7 and even earlier.

>>59212793
>easily upgraded

lmao

also tell us more about the cloud storage and 2GB of ram.

>>59212793
>Again, you have to press three button to remove it
Depends on your model. On mine you had to take the case off to stop it from shorting a BIOS write protect switch on the motherboard then flash the BIOS with the case off (or just put tape over the write protect contacts) then put it back together and install your OS.

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>>59212814
Nobody shills for used Thinkpads. We're enthusiasts. Lenovo got wind of our little club here and decided that we'd all be better off just throwing away perfectly good highest-end laptops which are still perfectly good and then they started shilling on /g/.

Herro Chang.

>>59212834
you can reserve extra virtual memory partitions in the cloud and swapon them for a low monthly fee

>>59212803
Again, I haven't told you to give your money to one company over another. You on the other hand want me to support Lenovo.

>>59212813
>no pretty much everybody agrees that chicklet boards are shit
>I spend so much time on /g/ that it's warped my perception of consumer opinions

>who is going to upgrade the screen in a $200 chinkbook?
I did. Several other people have. Are you too much of a pussy to take out a few screws?

>on every chromebook? lots are totally locked down, and you never know when they will change this feature
So look up this information before you buy. Again, I haven't told you to buy one model over another. Buy the one that suits you needs or don't buy one at all, I don't care.

>>accepting the botnet
>lel
You are posting on a closed source website that sells your information and ties your posts to your google account via the captchas. YOU are already a part of the "botnet".

>>59212837

>On mine you had to take the case off to stop it from shorting a BIOS write protect switch on the motherboard then flash the BIOS with the case off

>>59212827
>This is no longer true since Android 7 and even earlier.

>>59212813
>lots are totally locked down


ladies and gentlemen: the objectively superior Chromebook™ technology that makes Thinkpad owners shit themselves.

>>59212834
4gb ram models are cheap, a lot of chromebooks have SD card slots, and some even have upgradable hard drives. I actually rarely use google drive on mine, and never at all on the one I installed Gallium OS on.

>>59212861
>too much of a pussy
no i'm too smart to buy a botnet chromebook

botnet fags btfo

>>59212896
But Thinkpads come with Windows pre installed, how is that any better?

>>59212842

I am actually interning at Lenovo's Marketing department right now. I've showed them /g/, they laughed for a bit and carried on there way. They are trying hard to push away that enthusiast/corporate use only image and pushing the Yoga series hardcore. There is no Lenovo shills on /g/, unless you count me as one?

Think I can still get the free 100MB/mo 3G that came with my Cr-48? I couldn't activate it at the time because the site claimed Verizon didn't have 3G service in my area

>>59211185

>I'm a thinkpad repair technician

>I have repaired thinkpads

Really activates my almonds

>>59212886
>anon says 2gb of ram is nothing
>fine just get the 4gb ram one
>2017
>4gb ram

>anon says that cloud storage is shit
>but it has an sd card slot
really

>>59212945
>>anon says 2gb of ram is nothing
I didn't say that.

>>anon says that cloud storage is shit
>>but it has an sd card slot
>really
Yes. I'm clearly not saying chromebooks (in lower case because I'm not a shill) are for everyone. But for people who only use their computers to watch anime, shitpost on 4chan, and rice out their desktop (so 90% of /g/), I don't see why you'd buy a thick, heavy laptop with a TN panel. You don't need much hard drive space to stream crunchyroll.

>>59212886
>some even have upgradable hard drives

oh my god here's my credit card, pls send me one asap.


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>>59212916
>There is no Lenovo shills on /g/
nice try chang

>>59213005
>stream
what a pleb

i bet you use spotify and have a google account too lmao

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>>59212929
they're making english-conversant lenovo employees shill after hours

probably locked into a suicide proof building and everything

>The HP Chromebook 13 G1’s internal storage across all configurations is 32 GB of eMMC storage, with usable storage capacity out of the box coming in at several gigabytes less. Like most eMMC storage, it’s soldered to the board, non-replaceable and therefore unable to be upgraded.

>The bottom cover appears to be constructed of a thin piece of magnesium alloy; the internal frame hidden between the two metals, meanwhile, is actually merely plastic.

>pressure in the center of the base unit above the keyboard does easily bend the frame. The display lid is also thin, and thus, it is more susceptible than average to twisting and pressure from behind.

>The internal brackets are constructed of metal, though again, they are secured to a plastic frame.

>In our Wi-Fi Surfing v1.3 simulation, we measured 6 hours and 44 minutes of total runtime

>Intel Pentium 4405Y CPU

>4 GB LPDDR3-1866 RAM


>$500

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I've read every post in this thread and I still don't know what the fuck to buy.
I just need something cheap, portable, durable, and capable of basic shit like photoshop and fl studio.

>>59213176
t420 and t430 cover all of these

the portable part depends if you're a numale or not tho, if not then it'll be fine.

>>59213176
Thinkpad T60.

>>59213176
Sounds like a used thinkpad would be perfect.

>>59211598
if your going to spend 900 dollars or near that dude, get a damn samsung laptop get luxury dont get trash like chrome books.

>>59213176
If you need photoshop then a chromebook isn't for you.

X series nice and small 12.5 screen, for others 14" good compromise

>>59213176

>4GB of ram and a smartphone cpu + google storage

>photoshop

>fl studio

>>59213186
>>59213201
I might get one of these, just gotta get over how fucking autistic they look.
>>59213226
why not?
are they that shit?

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>>59210742
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59213267
>how fucking autistic they look
function > form

or get that carbon fiber skin, makes it look less "old"

>>59213267
No, they're just not intended for content creation. The cheapest chromebooks have 11" TN screens, so you'll be editing photos with inaccurate colors on a small screen, and only 16gb storage. If you're just using photoshop to create 4chan memes, you'll be able to get by, but that's it.

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>>59213251
>ARM Chromebooks exist therefore all Chromebooks have cellphone processors
Got some bad news about your gaymen rig's processor, bud.

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>>59213267
>I might get one of these, just gotta get over how fucking autistic they look.
Built like a tank, can be upgraded, and it will certainly handle your image processing tasks just fine.

You'll love it.

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>>59213224
Is this not shit for the price and I what I need/want (solid daily with some gaming like DS3)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=1TS-001A-00382

>>59212555

kek

>but but but if you only watch anime 24 hours a day all day everyday then a chromebook might b gud

>>59212555
>Keyboards are subjective
Listen chang, I know they don't let non-Party officials use real keyboards over there in Communist China but it's not 'subjective' at all. People fucking hate chicklet keys, especially here on /g/, and ESPECIALLY Thinkpad fans.

Just get back onto Reddit with your shit-tier moral relativism.

>>59213438
>3GB memory maximum

Or just get a MacBook 2.4Ghz C2D that can be upgraded to 6GB on eBay for ~$50 and be done with it

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it's all about the nipple baby

>>59210742
>cant fully install linux have to keep chrome os on it

I just bought the new Samsung arm Chromebook, had it for a few days now. The display is incredible. The keyboard isn't great, but it's serviceable. The battery life is astounding, easily 8+ hours.

I don't have crouton or an archlinux arm install at this point, frankly I don't think I'll even bother. It has a very decent xterm compatible SSH client on the chrome app store that is developed by google, and it has OpenVPN support baked in. So I can access my development machine from anywhere and do work on a significantly faster box than any laptop. I pay for a VPN service that makes this possible, but a vultr box for the same purpose would run you a massive $2.50/mo.

The problem I haven't solved so far is what I'm gonna do when I need to do work in some kind of graphics program, eg: Android Studio or KICAD or Kdenlive or Gimp or inkscape. I rarely actually open those programs up, but every so often I'll spend 5-6 hours in one of them. I found a spice client for chromeos online, I'll have to give it a shot. Not sure how spice is going to behave with a lot of latency, though.

The big thing for me is that chromeos is secure. Seccomp-bpf. Tomoyo. Grsec. Signed firmware and bootloader using Coreboot. That's perfect for me. I do want to have a secure laptop, but all it needs to do is give me a shell to access computers where I actually do my work, and a browser too. Not having to do any maintenance on a device that is effectively just a peripheral input to my main PC is a big bonus for me.

Yes, Google is getting some of your information and showing you ads. So fucking what? I carry a Google phone around every day, too. My email is on Gmail. It's not the end of the world.

>>59215397

I want to add:

1. Bestbuy is currently running a deal where you can trade in any working laptop for $100 credit towards this device. I ended up paying only $350 + tax for mine. It's a good deal.

2. Android apps run very smoothly. I run Kodi this way, and have been watching movies on it. Works perfect. DirecTV app works, too. VLC works, too. Termux works, too, if you absolutely need some program available offline.

>>59215458

Bump.

>>59210742
Because you'll throw away the Chromebook in 2 years while the Chinkpad will still be running

ThinkPad's are for betas, enjoy never getting a white wife.

>>59215397
>>59215458
>$350+tax
>ARM
lol

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>>59216413
>3d whores

>>59216431
What's wrong with ARM? It is more than enough for browsing the web and and an SSH client.

How else are you going to realistically get 10 hours of battery life out of a device with a 400nit 2400x1600 display?

This is the first device I've ever owned that feels about as well made as my MacBooks, and it's less than a quarter of the price.

>>59211000
Nice trips

>>59215060
But that's wrong you fucking retard.

I built a nice gaming rig and I'm thinking of picking up a cheaper laptop just for internet browsing and shitposting, basically.

Should I go with a chromebook or a budget windows laptop? Probably gonna throw Ubuntu on it either way

>>59219632
If you budget is $400-$500
I'd go with the Asus c302 or the Samsung Chromebook Plus.

If your budget is below that, the Dell CB13 in the OP is a hell of a steal.

>>59213710
>what is T61

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>>59210851
This. I don't think that chrome book could handle my autistic fits of rage as well.

I did what OP said and my chromebook's screen broke within 5 months of purchase.

>>59215458

(Bumping again, above poster is me.)

Something else I want to mention is that I've owned ThinkPads, Inspirons, and MacBooks. I understand where people come from, but the numbers simply don't add up anymore. 5 years ago you absolutely needed to get a laptop with some power, because the bare minimum was simply incapable of running a browser and a word processor simultaneously.

Not the case anymore. Cheap ARM devices can do all of this without a hiccup, and you're rewarded with significantly better battery life than an amd64 machine would get.

Embrace the idea of a thin client. You will be rewarded by a great experience.

>>59213306
they can run windows now? at least the older models used a bios/bootloader that could only load linux

>>59222133
Yes, most of the intel ones can at least.

>>59221523
What major Linux programs can't run on ARM? What's the biggest disadvantage to having ARM over x86?

Could I do hobbiest development say with only ARM?

>>59222211
> What major Linux programs can't run on ARM?

Anything proprietary will probably lack arm packages. Eg: steam.

> What's the biggest disadvantage to having ARM over x86?

It's slower, but you don't need a blazing fast CPU these days-- this is the same argument that is used around here to convince people to buy used ThinkPads. And it's true, but what people rarely consider is that your 22nm CPU uses a lot more energy than new laptops.

> Could I do hobbiest development say with only ARM?
Any kind of open source tool will run fine on an arm device.

>>59211877
>Windows laptop has to sacrifice some hardware to pay for the Windows license at that price, while Chromebooks don't.

>implying Google isn't jewish
>implying Google doesn't want 80% profit on everything they sell

>>59211287
Xiaomi air

>>59210742
because they're durable as fuck, spillproof, the clitmouse is great, the keyboard is comfy and It Just Werks™ with loonix. If you're a clumsy spaz like I am you'll want to get one, I've had mine fall 4ft onto concrete a few times and still works perfectly fine 3 years later.

>I don't like the clickpads on the new ones though, they're annoying

>>59211877
> Implying Microsoft isn't subsidizing the cost of those licenses to avoid losing marketshare to Android tablets, iPads, and Chromebooks

I'm the guy here that's shilling for the new Chromebook but even I have to call BS on this. Not only are those licenses probably gratis, I'd bet that Microsoft is actually paying manufacturers to make windows devices instead of shipping them with chromeos or Android.

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>>59219988
competitive desu

>>59221523
We like the idea, we just hate the shitty implementations.

>>59225773

Play around with one of the new ones. The implementation kicks ass this time around.