Is there any fucking reason you guys care about desktop CPU performance

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>pro commie

I want to build a cute little ITX machine, but I have no real use for a desktop, I don't play PC games and my c2d thinkpad with 2GB ram and an SSD is never a problem.

Maybe I just want an excuse to buy a proper desk and a mechanical keyboard, but I'd probably just use the thinkpad more.

it's shills. nothing else. this board (and /v/ too in particular) is infested with shills. we're likely the only twos who aren't shills.

>>59204040
>>59204142
samefag

>>59204228
>being unable to read the IP count

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>>59204077
It's yet another episode of edgy fashy teenagers memeing "le gommunism is bad mmmkayy???" meme again

I love my 6950x + titan x(pascal) minecraft machine. I made some minecraft letsplays with bandicam

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>>59204393
Die commie die

>>59204040
The only real-world benefit they offer is less power consumption. Which may not be something you care about at all, and is an incremental benefit if it is.

If this was /o/ you'd be telling all the people talking about the latest 200-mph supercars "Why do you care! Talk about this econo-box that gets 45mpg instead, up from 41mpg in the last model!" That may be practical for some things but its neither a big upgrade over what everyone has nor is it exciting enough to talk about.

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>>59204040
> How are there so many video editors on /g/?
well everyone here needs to edit videos of fucking your mom. We need all the processing power we can get, you know since your mum takes up so many dam pixels on screen.

>video editing
>compiling
>heavy multitasking

And anyway, /g/ is an enthusiast board. "Just because" is a perfectly good reason for getting excited about advancements.

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tribalism
boredom
easy funposting

>>59204393
>defending the groups who butchered over 100 million people
looks like you're the edgy kid here

>>59204040
We don't care about desktop cpu performance.
We just get visited by a lot of shills who think we do.

CAD, rendering, multitasking.
Some people use computers as tools on top of entertainment.

I can use my i7 in my w541 to make drawings, render a video for a client in the background while typing up a proposal that sells a 100k job the same day.

Then at home my Xeon can service all my backend needs and can be used to work on more complex projects.

Stay poor.

>>59204040
I thought he was Jill Stein supporter or something

>>59206118
But I thought /o/'s favorite car was the Twingo?

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>>59207118
Capitalism has killed orders of magnitude more. Try reading a book any day.

>>59209219
>being against a free market

Ever notice that people who live in the more controlled markets are poorer in general than the people living in the free markets? Free markets: give the money to the people, Socialism: give the money to the government

You seriously want Trump managing your finances? RETARD!!!!

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Fuck, I just used the first /g/ related pictures in my folder. I didn't realize you spergs would start arguing over this bullshit.

>>59204040
I still use a Core2 Duo. Literally no reason to update and my freedoms are respected because Coreboot and disabled management engine.

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>>59209259
This is the logical fallacy you're committing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

Recommended read:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/15/neoliberalism-ideology-problem-george-monbiot

Also see pic related.

>>59209478
>norway is a socialist country
you must be 18 years or older to post on 4chan

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>>59209577
>what is Statoil?
>who was Trygve Bratteli?
>what is the A/Ap?
>how does Norway explore oil?
>what is the Statens pensjonsfond Utland?
>what are Telenor, DNB, Norsk Hydro, Statnett, Statkraft, TronderEnergi?
>what is public health and education in Norway?
You know jack shit about Norway, my friend.

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>is a Bernout
>appeared on Infowars
What did he mean by this?

>>59209835
iirc Immortal Technique (communist black nationalist rapper) appeared on Infowars as well.

>>59209777
see: >>59209577

>>59210048
Well, if all of that isn't socialism, then why are you attacking Stallman and Sanders by calling them commies for defending that kinda stuff? You're falling in contradiction.

>>59210763
I wasn't the guy attacking stallman or sanders I just joined into poke fun at you falling norway socialism

>>59211392
>into poke fun at you falling
in to poke fun at you calling*

>>59211392
>>59211409
If it's not socialism, what is it then?

>>59207118
Movements in both the extreme left and right have killed hundreds of millions. You're a fool to conflate Bernie with communism just as you'd be a fool to conflate Trump with Nazism.

>>59204040
>Even ARM based machines can play back 4k video smoothly and power a shitposting machine all day.

That's because of Soc DSP decoding (which uses nonfree software) :'(


If you want to try to use a completely free setup you have to use x86

>>59211519
It is socialism, can't you tell when you're being trolled?

>>59211519
it's a mixed economy just like the usa is. in general that means private ownership of the means of production

>>59211639
Ah, I see. So you must've missed the part where I just named half a dozen dominant Norwegian state companies. Right here >>59209777

>>59211639
also to make it clear: that means the economy runs of private ownership/capital accumulation/free markets and the like

>>59211671
pointing to one example of public ownership doesn't change the fact that it's in the minority compared to private ownership running the economy

>>59211693
>runs of
runs on*

>>59211693
>one example
>in the minority
I see you're very devoted to prove what I said here >>59209777, namely that you know jack shit about Norway.

Please do continue, it will be entertaining to lecture you about it.

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>>59211727
My response is the same as I said here: >>59211693
Norway's economy runs on accumulating capital.

>>59211727
btw I think only like 30% of companies in norway are state controlled, that's another indicator it's a mixed economy

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>>59207437
Because it's cute and practically engineered, not because it's fast. Same thing for the Miata.

>>59206118
There used to be some faggot named Honky Kong who would do exactly that and post his shitty blue Honda Fit everywhere while demanding people explain to him why they feel the need to exceed the speed limit.

>>59204040
I need the horsepower for my extremely complicated video games with tire deformation, chassis flex, and soft body physics that actually require fast multicore processing, not to mention being able to record gameplay, run VOIP, music playback, and shitposting all at the same time without any delay switching from task to task.

I don't waste time at work, I sure as fuck don't waste time when it's time for vidya, and neither should you.

>>59211775
Interesting, so you also missed the part about the Statens pensjonsfond Utland. The market value of that sovereign state fund is over 7 trillion krones. The entire Norwegian stock market barely reaches 3 trillion krones, as shown by the very graph you posted. That's less than a 1/3rd of the country's sovereign state fund.

Also it's obvious how you have no clue about how that came to be: in the 70's the labour party (which I also mentioned here >>59209777) created Statoil and ruled that 50% of the Norwegian oil can only be explored exclusively by the state. It also ruled that parties interested in exploring the remainder are obligated to reinvest at least 50% in Norwegian public research.

The more you know...

>>59211893
The state controls the top 5 Norwegian mixed-capital businesses by market value.

Keep trying, I love to lecture people about this subject.

>>59211912
Which GTA game is that from?

>>59211913
You literally just gave a ratio of the current market value of a state fund to the 2001 levels in my chart.

>>59211913
BTW even if you didn't get your numbers wrong what you said would still be considered a mixed economy

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>>59211942
The one from the alternate universe where Rockstar is a tiny indie dev with half a game made out of a tech demo originally supposed to be an add-on for Cryengine supported almost entirely by user-made content.

BeamNG Drive.

>>59211982
I gave you a recent value. December 2016, to be exact. Your graph points to the value decreasing towards the end.

>>59211996
>even if you didn't get your numbers wrong
I didn't, you're just confused because I mentioned the chart. I shouldn't have mentioned it, your brain can't pay attention at more than 1 thing at the same time.

>what you said would still be considered a mixed economy
You must be confused, I'm not arguing for full blown communism here, just regular socialism.

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>>59212064
>I gave you a recent value. December 2016, to be exact. Your graph points to the value decreasing towards the end.
in other words you didn't bother to look up the current numbers to see if the trend continued, which it doesn't.

It's been trending up so your argument isn't supported.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/norway/gross-fixed-capital-formation

>>59212064
>You must be confused, I'm not arguing for full blown communism here, just regular socialism.
I don't know why you brought up communism. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Being a mixed economy just means elements of capitalism and socialism are in the economy. However, it's still considered capitalist because the capitalist elements of the economy is the driving force of it.

>>59212149
>It's been trending up so your argument isn't supported.
My argument doesn't rely on trends, it relies on ratios. Don't be dumb.

>the capitalist elements of the economy is [sic] the driving force of it
I just showed you it's the state element the driving force behind the Norwegian economy. How much in denial can you possibly be?

>>59212203
>My argument doesn't rely on trends, it relies on ratios. Don't be dumb.
Your argument relies on how large the ratio is. It is considerably smaller with the current numbers in that graph.

>>59212203
>I just showed you it's the state element the driving force behind the Norwegian economy.
No, actually you haven't. You've told which rank the gov controlled companies are but not much much they outstrip the rest of the companies. I've claimed that only about 30% of the companies in Norway are state owned and you haven't disputed that so I guess you're okay with that figure too. Listing off some state controlled companies doesn't say whether or not they run the majority.

>>59212244
>Your argument relies on how large the ratio is. It is considerably smaller with the current numbers in that graph.
Do you even know what the Statens pensjonsfond Utland is?

>No, actually you haven't. I've claimed that only about 30% of the companies in Norway are state owned and you haven't disputed that
That number is absolutely irrelevant when confronted with the capital ratios. A million $1 businesses don't move the economy as much as one big $1billion company. The state controls most capital in the Norwegian economy, that's a fact and even you admitted it. You're literally grasping at straws at this point.

>>59212313

You're arguing with a literal wikifag, he keeps posting charts straight from Wikipedia. He doesn't know anything, just ignore him.

>>59212313
>A million $1 businesses don't move the economy as much as one big $1billion company.
Obviously not but those aren't the real numbers.
>The state controls most capital in the Norwegian economy, that's a fact
You haven't posted anything which has supported that.
>and even you admitted it.
Never once did I admit to that. You literally responded to me saying the opposite here on the bottom: >>59212203

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

>>59212314
>keeps posting charts from wikipedia.
umm? I even posted my own source >>59212149

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Moderator, please delete my thread. I didn't intend for this to happen.

>>59212362
>You haven't posted anything which has supported that.
Yes, I have.

>Never once did I admit to that.
You said the ratio is "considerably smaller" now here >>59212244. So the government doesn't control over approx. 70% of the economy anymore, maybe a bit less, but still most of it.

Btw, before you say "70% isn't a real number", the math is simple. 7 trillion krones + 3 trillion krones = 10 trillion krones. 7 / 10 = 0.7 => 70%

Anyway, stop overfocusing on the economy, you obviously have no grasp of it. Try instead to look into Norway's social welfare state, high tax rates or even equality indicators. By any neoliberal's standards, Norway has a sufficiently "unfree" (so to speak) market to be qualified as a socialist state. Other countries are called socialist for less than that. The only problem about it is having to admit that a very successful and wealthy country with high-standards of living is socialist, which they obviously could never do.

>>59204393
Communism can't work yet. I want to imagine that someday we'll make it to that Star Trek utopia where money has no value since you can replicate any material item or food that you want, but that certainly isn't today. Would you even consider that communism? I'm sure that's the intended end goal that every commie wants.

20th century communism is bullshit though, it's slavery and you get no incentive for being better at your job.

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>>59212473
>So the government doesn't control over approx. 70% of the economy anymore, maybe a bit less, but still most of it.
Again you're doing what you did before when you guessed that the trend on my first graph would continue down. I said it's lower than 70 so you take that as proof that I mean it's still above 50. No, that's not how it works. The other remarks I've made saying that capitalism is the driving force of norway's economy should have led you to believe meant that it is lower than 50.

No idea why you tried to explain the idea of percentages to me. Earlier I said the percentage is lower than you thought it was and now for some reason you're turning that into me not accepting the idea of a percentage in general.

>Anyway, stop overfocusing on the economy, you obviously have no grasp of it.
lol, the economy is literally what determines if it's socialism or capitalism. those are economic systems. Having a high tax rate and that kind of stuff doesn't equal socialism.

>By any neoliberal's standards, Norway has a sufficiently "unfree" (so to speak) market to be qualified as a socialist state.
Totally untrue. http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Norway is considered mostly free by all the kind of agencies who rank counties by economy freedom. It's actually comparable to the usa in terms of economic freedom. After all, they are both considered mixed economies.

>>59212572
>counties
countries*

>>59212572
>heritage ranking
By mises.org's very definition, Norway's economy is a completely non-free market, since it's full of government regulations and taxes. If the Heritage index ranks Norway pretty high on market freedom, it goes to show how socialism is more efficient at producing freedom than capitalism is. No surprise there at all: on capitalism, you often become slaves to big corporations.

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>>59204040
I'm a video editor. I use muh CPU to make cool weebms to post on 4chan

>>59212630
Mises literally refutes the idea of a mixed economy. They think that only capitalist or socialist systems can exist, not a mix between the two. Of course they'd dispute that. Do you think that mixed economies exist or no? If you do then why the hell are you citing Mises? If you don't then why have you waited this long until bringing that up to me?

>>59212654

did that guy die

>>59212753
You've been calling Norway a mixed economy all along, now you're saying it's a free market economy. You contradicting yourself (again).

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>>59212783
No and that guy is actually a very cute grill

>>59212884
no, I've consistently said it's a mixed economy that is majority capitalist. People usually just call that capitalist in the same way that we call the usa capitalist even though it's mixed too. You're the one that seems to have changed your position now. Are you saying Norway is not mixed and it is strictly socialist now? Also you didn't answer my question, do you believe that mixed economies exist or not?

>>59204040
>Is there any fucking reason you guys care about desktop CPU performance so much?
F.E.A. and large scale mathematical models in in GPU accelerated applications. I have some that take two days or more to run at work. Just because you don't have a job don't think the rest of us don't.

>>59211912
/o/ only likes the miata because /o/ is full of gay men.

I will flat out admit that I won't be fully utilizing the hardware even close to 100% of the time, but the point is that it will be there when I need it.

>>59213026
I do have a job. 99% of people aren't like you. Hell, 99% of /g/ doesn't even have your computing demands. I wasn't attacking people like you, I'm attacking the autists who shitpost about Ryzen vs Intel despite Ryzen or Intel's competition offering no benefits to them over like a 2500k.

For most people, we've reached the point where ARM processors have more of an appreciable impact on our lives when they get more powerful than desktop processors do.

>Games have stagnated so much in terms of their demands
>meanwhile, my i7 4790k is the bottleneck of my performance in Planteside 2

>>59204040
rpi is legit, chip is also legit

>>59207437
honhonhon
>>59213058
>wishes he knew about cars so he could play too ;}

>>59213026
>i represent the absolute edge case of any home computer user in terms of power, at least, so I claim
>therefore i am the only employed person here
you're a neet faggot is what you are

Hearts of Iron 4 will slay your CPU, so will Minecraft

>>59212934
Except you didn't. You said it's free market here >>59212572.

>Also you didn't answer my question, do you believe that mixed economies exist or not?
I do. The US is a mixed economy. But if the US is a mixed economy, then much more liberal Norway can't be one also. It must be socialist.

>>59212149
>capitalist
That's as dumb as claiming they are socialist. Capitalism FIGHTS against most principles that states like Norway are built upon, like limited work weeks, mandated days off/vacations, minimum wages, social security, etc.
It is not capitalist. It's a social market economy.