>I almost sold my 5930K golden chip for Ryzen Thank god I

>>59201130
Honestly don't know how they still have a following at all
I understand the whole "muh jew" moral but come on seriously? AMD literally just jewed the fuck out of you

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>he uses i7 retarchip for retards
i7 has the same performance for gaymes as i5 yet costs more because it has hyper-threading and other professional usage features that are useless for gayming.

i7 is also useless for professional users since Xeon is made for them while i7 shits itself in comparison.

You are literally using the jack of all trades, master of none except shitting itself.
KEK

>>59201234
Are you underage?

>>59201130
>FALLING
>AMD
>MEME
>EVER

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>59201274
I know right

>>59201255
If you understand less than a perceived underage about CPU's,
you should take a break from the Internet and take up a book sunny jim.

>>59201130
>5930K
Why would you buy this over the 5820k unless you needed the extra PCIe lanes?
And if you were considering Ryzen you obviously WERENT needing the extra PCIe lanes.

Ryzen has 16
5820k has 28
5930k has 40


So sounds like you wasted money on a 5930k instead of getting the better 5820k for far less $.

>>59201234
The 5930k has 6 cores. There is no i5 version of a 6 core.

>>59201130
Intel shills out in force.

>>59201318
He doesn't have the basic understanding of the hardware he uses, but he convinces himself that he does because he is a gaymer, so explaining it to him is useless.

>>59201343
And it still has same performance at equal clock in benchmarks. Tally ho!

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>>59201130
A = ANOTHER

M = MAJOR

D = DISAPPOINTMENT
>>59201130

>>59201362
Wut

are you retarded?

Same performance as what?
a 4 core i5?

lol

>>59201346
Obviously, i've seen a half dozen 5930k posters in the past ~2 years who bought it cause it has a higher number and was more expensive.

Despite the fact the 5820k has identical performance for $200 less.

>>59201392
>games don't care about core amount but about clock rate you retard
>core support for over 4 is rare and barely has any relevant impact to justify price

>>59201428
>games
>>>/v/

When you said
>>59201362
>still has same performance

I thought you were being an adult and talking about actual performance, rendering, encoding, etc.


If you're cherry picking games that only use 1-4 cores, of course it will perform the same.

>>59201449
>>>/v/
That's where you should be going precisely,
since Xeon is for professional use and only retards use i7.
>you are retarded again

>>59201470
Yeah, better to spend 5x the cost for Xeon when i can get a 5820k for $280 with basically identical performance to the Xeon except without ECC support.

Oh and the 5820k has an unlocked multiplier unlike the Xeons so I can bring my single core performance up to 6700k levels.


Moron. Unless your work is paying for your Xeon, you're FAR better off with a HEDT chip such as the 5820k or 6800k.

>>59201502
Or, better spend a wee bit more on a vastly more energy efficient Xeon with extremely fast speed and professional use features out the wazoo,
which pays itself off in the long-term;
rather than be a retard who can't do basic financial calculations and calculate long-term comparisons in CPU usage irrespective of the original price (which includes the time = money ratio).

Stop posting anon.
You are a retard if you use i7 for gaming.
You are a retard if you use i7 for pro work.
You are a retard all the same. Your post just proved it.

>>59201526
What are these fancy features the Xeon has my 5820k doesnt? I'll wait for you to list them out.


Also, a wee bit more? $599.99 on newegg right now for a E5-1650 v3 (the equivalent Xeon to a 5820k). The 5820k is $320, and I paid $280 for mine.

How the fuck is literally 2x the cost "a wee bit more"

not to mention, you can't OC it. My 5820k sits comfortably at 4.4GHz, a full 1.1GHz over it's stock clock speed.

RYPOO, GARBAGE CPU FOR GARBAGE AYYMDPOORFAGS

>>59201599
You are still talking?
Retards should stop talking when they are outed as retards, so the surroundings don't get infected by their IQ-reducing posts.
You should go to Google, start searching, and start learning, to cure your retardation.
It's best when people Google before they randomly post jibberish on various sites.

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>>59201130
What a fucking mess.
Even in production work, the area Ryzen excels in, you're oftentimes leveraging the GPU, and the processor is relatively unimportant.

AMD tried to hide the sad reality by showing games at 4K so the frames were GPU limited. And they kept looking at the sky in Sniper Elite. That bit in particular was underhanded and scummy, imo.

They might be a good choice for rendering, but for gaming, the entire Ryzen line looks completely screwed.

This was our chance to push Intel to actually shift into high-gear and innovate. Ryzen isn't a complete flop in all respects, but it's definitely underwhelming.
Fuck you AMD. The hype was a lie.

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>>59201650
Lol good sources there, I asked for specifics on what an E5 V3 xeon has my 5820k doesn't.

I already mentioned the lack of ECC support which for me is fairly pointless. I'm not running some 24/7 memory intensive operations. I'm encoding a lot however, so more cores is going to help me.

So please enlighten me as to how exactly you think the increased cost of the Xeon would EVER pay off for me? It offers LESS performance, at 2x the cost.

>>59201714
>asked for specifics on what an E5 V3 xeon has my 5820k doesn't.
Basically nothing besides the lack of ECC support. They're identical silicon. They come from the same wafers.

>>59201502
E5-2670 v1
$50-80 for one
$200 for a good 2x CPU motherboard

>>59201660
will there ever be another 2500k?
best CPU purchase ever

So glad the press is exposing AYYMD for what the scummy company they are

>>59201880
more like $300-400 for a decent one. The only $200 ones are dell or HP OEM boards.

I'd MUCH rather go supermicro if i'm doing a dual CPU build

BUT even with that said, your single core performance will tank compared to a 5820k, and I doubt even with 16 cores it would be significantly faster in rendering or similar tasks, though I admit, it would be faster. Just not by a lot.

>>59201763
>Basically nothing besides the lack of ECC support. They're identical silicon. They come from the same wafers.
Stop trying to educate people on /g/

>>59201937
>more like $300-400 for a decent one. The only $200 ones are dell or HP OEM boards.
...wut? You can get a decent Supermicro board for $200-250. Check eBay and use the Sold Items feature, use a price filter, check them out. Plenty of excellent boards in tested working condition. eBay has good buyer protection nowadays.

>>59201937
>I doubt even with 16 cores it would be significantly faster in rendering or similar tasks, though I admit, it would be faster. Just not by a lot.
>8/12 vs 16/32 similar architecture
> it would be faster. Just not by a lot.
dumbest shit I've read on /g/ in a long time, and that's ignoring the feature differences between the chips

>>59201984
When talking about 2.6Ghz vs 4.4GHz?


Yeah it would be faster, but not by a lot.

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>>59201346
What in the name of God are you babbling about?
Please tell me how can you assert this with my Original Post >>59201130 .

You just went out of your to not only insult me but also spout inanities out of thin air.

With the way you write I guess you are also the author of this post >>59201307 .

I said I might have sold my 5930K had AMD released a promising CPU ( >>59201130
) and you go out of your way to post >>59201307
and >>59201346

Now as for >>59201318 I bought my 5930K during a flash sale €330. It proved to be useful when I had my R9 Fury crossfire and Intel 750 SSD.
As far as I know Ryzen and x370 have 32 PCIe lanes and since I don't have that crossfire setup anymore I would still be fine with a Ryzen CPU, bandwidth wise.


tl;dr Fuck you both.

>>59201130
>only play games on my pc for the most part
>ryzen 1700x looked p.good
>wanted to wait for results
>turn on hardware unboxed review
>watch barely 4 mins in and see that my 4690k has better single core perf than both the 1700x AND 1800x

fucking dropped

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>>59201130
I want to cuddle and kiss that cutie pie so bad. :(

https://www.shutterstock.com/search?models=230908

>>59202099
You're underestimating the significance of more physical cores and ovestimating the significance of clockspeed here, especially given that they are similar architectures. It'll be a lot. Even if performance scaled so well with clockspeed that the performance result scaled to extra cores/threads, we're talking 50% more performance out of the 2x xeons at half the price.
>inb4 goalposts move and this becomes a debate about muh video games or something

>>59202190
and you're completely ignoring the importance of single core performance.

Hey, you're like AMD :D

>>59202190
>the discussion can only go into this particular direction I want because it fits my narrative

>>59202202
>and you're completely ignoring the importance of single core performance.
Please explain how for the purposes of virtualization, encoding, compression, ... the extra single threaded performance will provide a meaningful difference? It'll be imperceptible at most. I think you have no argument here because I already called you out on your video game bullshit. :D

>>59201130
NO you didn't you just know now is the perfect time to make a thread and it'll get responses because your threads in the past suck.

>>59202228
>my narrative
more like the use case for 32 threads?
confirmed triggered and retarded

enjoy your video games

>>59201130
Why would you sell a golden chip?

>>59202234
Its my primary computer, I would fully be behind you if it was a work computer only being used for work. But on a personal computer I plan to keep for 4+ years?

Come on, why the fuck would you gimp yourself with old xeons with terrible single core?

Single core performance is always going to be important, unless we see a massive shift in programming paradigm at some point.

>>59201130
>>59202270
>>59202294

wtf is a golden chip, that makes you sound like a golden cuck.

Is it cherry picked? Just overclocked higher at lower voltages right?

>>59202294
>Single core performance is always going to be important

For video games, which you're desperately trying to pretend that you don't care about. For productivity applications it's a distant secondary concern. Just admit you want to play the latest Ubisoft open world game instead of getting defensive about it.

>>59202294
>terrible
You got all angry and started being vulgar for no reason but here you are pretending that there's a meaningful single-core difference for the end user between even a Pentium-branded chip from two generations ago and the most expensive chip on the market. Can you name a single thing this is actually true for? Your only answer is video games, which is why you started memeing when I said this earlier.

Are you 15 years old?

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>I almost waited 9 months for Ryzen + Vega to build my computer
>I got impatient, sold my shitty laptop, built an i5 + gtx 1070 rig, and hoped AMD wouldn't make me regret it
>mfw I made the right choice

>>59202239
And enjoy your autism bucks.

>>59202323
it means that OP used his piss as thermal paste

>>59202327
>Just admit you want to play the latest Ubisoft open world game instead of getting defensive about it.
Lol, this

>>59202270
For maximum eBay resell value and actually making a profit from it since I got the CPU for fairly cheap.
I won't do it anymore though.

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Wait, are you telling me that yet once again the next amd's product that all their shills here were overhyping has failed to deliver once again?!

Oh my god, I am shocked!

I

am

S H O C K E D
H
O
C
K
E
D

>>59202327
You sound extremely autistic. And I am not the person you've been "arguing" with.

>>59202449
AMD A DUD
M
D
U
D

>>59202327
>>59202329
Yeah how I dare I want a chip that can do gaming AND high performance rendering/encoding.


Face it, it's the best of both worlds and the only reason you faggots don't also have one is like your personal finances don't allow for it.

Why the fuck would you WANT a CPU that can only perform well when the programmer has accounted for 16+ cores? (which is a handful of professional apps and thats mostly it)

Yeah no thanks, i'll take 6 core 12 threads that can hit 4.5GHz+ for single core. I've got enough threads to be at least competitive with almost any xeon on the market, and the clock speed is high enough to match stock 7700k single core performance.

Also, the idea that ONLY gaming uses single threaded performance is laughable.

>>59202457
>You sound extremely autistic. And I am not the person you've been "arguing" with.
That person is also someone else, although I suspect you're lying

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>>59202494
nope, this is me >>59202492
not this >>59202457

>>59202492
>Yeah how I dare I want a chip that can do gaming AND high performance rendering/encoding.
lol, thought so.

I'm not a man-child and therefore I'm happier with 50% more performance with all else equal for less than half of the price in total. Enjoy your video games.

>>59202492
>how I dare I want a chip that can do gaming

You quite literally claimed that wasn't what you wanted, but have now backpeddled because it suits your argument.

>>59202513
Well, that's someone else, but there's nothing wrong with what he's saying.
>the autistic meme
Present an argument pls

can't wait for Ryzen 5 1500

>>59202543
>You quite literally claimed that wasn't what you wanted, but have now backpeddled because it suits your argument.
that's all these dumb kids ever do

>>59202534
enjoy ur animey

>>59202534
>50% more performance with all else equal for less than half of the price in total
you're dreaming kid.

$80*2 is $160+$200-250= ~$400

I spent $280 on my 5820k and got a motherboard for $150. That's what $50 more?


Not to mention, it's not 50% more performance, it's maybe 30-40% in the BEST case scenario.

And in anything that doesn't fully utilize all of your cores (and by the way, not all professional applications play nice with dual CPUs) will perform better on mine simply because of my much better single core performance.

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>>59202494
>you're lying

>>59201903
The new pentium g4560

>>59202585
>I spent $280 on my 5820k and got a motherboard for $150. That's what $50 more?
So this is one giant bout of post-purchase rationalization. Got it. And where'd you get the 5820k for $280? Are you sure you're not embellishing at all? :^) The current going price is about $350.

I just checked for you; 2x E5-2670, a SuperMicro X9DRD-EF, 128GB ECC DDR3 will run you $500 shipped, and that is *today*. But of course you're not interested in this because you're a manchild, and you already made the purchase, so why concede?

Enjoy your video games.

>>59202704
>And where'd you get the 5820k for $280?
Microcenter, you're the one calling out fucking ebay prices and i'm not allowed to use a brick and mortar store KNOWN for it's CPU/motherboard bundles?


The 5820k has regularly been $280-320 at microcenter. With an extra $20-50 off a motherboard (depending on sale)

I got a 5820k, and a $200 motherboard for under $500, even after taxes.


keep pretending you xeons are better, we've had this same argument half a dozen times over the past year anyway.

>>59202345

You did good. I still remember a few occasions in the last months when the AMD cultists from this board were shitting on me because I told some fags to buy an i5 right then and there and be done with it, then they started saying how ryzen would be a miracle and all that load of fucking BULLSHIT that amd and their shills ALWAYS say. I bet those guys are really happy now because despite all the amd shilling, they took my advice and went through with their builds.

Anyone waiting for AMD anything is a fucking retard. This company hasn't produced a single worthy product since the bulldozer. It's been a stellar streak of massive failures since 2011. 6 fucking years already and people STILL haven't gotten the message already. I thought it would finally be over with the "Overclocker's dream", which turned out to be flat out lie or when the RX 480 was being hyped up to compete with the goddamn 1070, but hey, le ebin underdog meme from amd shill protects them from any blame whatsoever and remember folks, amd dindu nuffin, it's all intel/nvidia's fault and don't forget to wait another decade for a vague promise.

>>59202753
>I got a 5820k, and a $200 motherboard for under $500, even after taxes.
And how much RAM? lol. You said yourself that you paid $430, presumably plus tax. For $70 more you can get what I outlined above—two processors that objectively outperform your single processor for everything but video games—as well as 128GB RAM.

What do you do for a living? Do you even use this thing as an actual workstation?

>keep pretending you xeons are better, we've had this same argument half a dozen times over the past year anyway.
So are we adding schizophrenia to the deck?

Don't bother responding, the only reason to stay in this thread is to give you attention and you clearly don't deserve any. I hope you grow up a bit. If you were an adult we would have simply discussed hardware and talked pros/cons, especially given how similar our setups are, but instead you're defensive and oppositional because for whatever reason you just need to rationalize your slightly inferior purchase and you don't want to admit that it's about muh video games. Have a nice life, bud.

>>59202704
>you're [insert demeaning comment]
>universal truths and permanent present
>multiple comments about video games

It seems like you're projecting something onto that anon for some reason.

Enjoy your lack of employment, I guess?
Enjoy your lack of job, I guess?

>>59202871
>For $70 more you can get what I outlined above—two processors that objectively outperform your single processor for everything but video games
Lol you're actually retarded if you believe this.


Have fun kid

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Jesus christ this thread went full autistico

>>59202895
>my cpu is better because i overclocked it which is totally what adults do anyway right, i mean it has 6 cores that's obviously better than 16 cores because muh overclock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXJkUTMCvm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJtMEg93LN8

>>59202887
>you're projecting by referencing something which the other party is concerned with
>it's projecting
>that's why I made up these things about employment for no apparent reason

>>59203017
>you're projecting by referencing something which the other party is concerned with

Fallacy.

>>59203017
Are you ACTUALLY retarded?

I fucking told you my 5820k would be ~30-40% worse in the best case scenario and WOULD YOU FUCKING LOOK AT THAT.

In Cinebench (IE the best case scenario since it's not a real world situation) the 5820k gets ~1300

The dual 2670 gets 2000

WHAT DO YOU KNOW, 35% less performance from my 5820k than your dual 2670.

Unless you're literally rendering ALL fucking day long 24/7 and never use your computer for anything else, it'd be retarded to get dual xeons.


If you want a rendering farm, sure go right the fuck ahead. But for my daily use computer? Come the fuck on. Just because YOU use it for daily use, doesn't make it a GOOD choice.

>>59203091
?

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>>59203122
It's interesting how you choose to round these numbers out and flat-out lie. This is a 50% difference, by the way. Either you're too stupid for basic math or you're simply lying and misrepresenting the facts to suit your agenda—I suspect that it's both. Maybe if you stopped spamming in caps lock and spent some time researching your purchase you wouldn't have ended up spending more on a shitty 6-core and some low amount of RAM than you could have spent on two proper 8/16 chips and 128GB, you silly manchild.

>all of this nonsense I already addressed above

And let's not forget:
> My 5820k sits comfortably at 4.4GHz, a full 1.1GHz over it's stock clock speed
CPU in the video: 4.7 GHz
So I guess the disparity between the two setups is actually even worse than 50% because your clock speed is lower than that of the example chip... ouch, that's got to sting...

Enjoy you video games. :^)

>>59203241
It's a 35% decrease, or a 50% increase. Learn to percentage you fucking retard.

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>>59203241
>CPU in the video: 4.7 GHz
>So I guess the disparity between the two setups is actually even worse than 50% because your clock speed is lower than that of the example chip... ouch, that's got to sting...
Just because i dont run mine at 4.7GHz doesn't mean it cant you literal faggot moron.

>>59201234
>other professional usage features that are useless for gayming.
fuck off /v/, not everyone here is a gamer idiot like you

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>>59203241
You kept mention post purchase rationalization earlier, but it REALLY seems like you have to defend your dual xeon setup.

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2xcost no faster

>>59203260
>>59203254
ayyo what percentage of 1300 is 700? bout fiddy tree :^) in other words muh setup gets fiddy tree puh cent mo performance
u got da cookie i got 1.5 cookies dawg, word. 2 bad u paid mo fo yo cookie LOL

>>59203260
>Just because i dont run mine at 4.7GHz doesn't mean it cant you literal faggot moron.
wew boi he's gettin desperate now

>>59203309
kek

>there's retards on /g/ who can't calculate energy cost into a product's base cost when comparing CPU's

Ayyyyyy, so many illiterate retards.

>>59203328
>calls him out for not running at 4.7GHz
>he proves he can easily run at 4.7GHz
>he's gettin desperate now

Wew, this argument is obviously not going anywhere, you're defending your shitty single core performance like your life depends on it, probably because you wasted mommies money on a dual socket meme because it makes you wet to think about it, despite the fact i can pretty much guarantee, you don't actually put that setup to work.


Have fun bud, i'm off to eat lunch

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>I enjoy engaging in homosexual intercourse
>...I think you might be a homosexual
>Stop projecting!

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There's too many retards in this thread.
I am thus forced to post this image.

>>59203356
>"he"
top kek

Why don't you then? Hm... ;)
> you're defending your shitty single core performance like your life depends on it,
This boils down to: muh video games

You're defending your shitty overall performance like your life depends on it. I'm sorry you spent more for objectively worse hardware and have a shitty computer.

>>59203356
>h-hey I can overclock to 4.7 just fine! I only run at 4.2 b-because I feel like it! It's n-not unstable or a-anything...!

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>there's idiots on /g/ who actually bought into the i7 meme
It's true what they say. /g/ has turned into /v/.

>>59203382
>shitty overall performance
Yeah it beats out literally every single 1155 CPU and every single AM3+ CPU in mutli core AND will at least come within ~10% in single core (against an OC'd 6700k).

How is that
>shitty overall performance
?


It's one of the most powerful overall performance single CPUs you can buy that is under $500. Period, fact. No matter how you spin it, it will never have
>shitty overall performance

Even compared to your dual xeon setup which NEW would have cost you what, $3700? Sure it's cheaper on ebay, but that's hardly the same shit. Not many people want to buy used CPUs on top of a used motherboard that would be next to impossible to replace in a few years if something fucks up.


Also, you keep meming that single core performance ONLY matters for gaming, which is just blatantly false. That happens to be one of the easiest examples to show because games are very prevalent in today's computing. But to pretend single core performance doesn't matter at ALL outside of gaming is just laughable.

>>59203406
It's not unstable, it's just 80C under load and I prefer keeping mine under 70C during full load, which I can do with 4.2-4.3GHz.

I have my 2nd BIOS setup with my 4.7GHz OC, all i have to do is turn off my computer, flip a switch, and turn it back on.

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>team red for as long as I can remember
>at the edge
>we still got a change with Polaris
>falling for Poolaris benchmarks
>Maybe Zen can retake the CPU market
>falling for Ryzen benchmarks

I'm tired of this shit /g/uys

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>>59203439
>spending his lunch writing up this wall of text
>not gonna fix his shitty computer that he overspent for
yo how much ram do you have bud?

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>>59203406
>4.2

>>59203466
32GB because like I already said an hour+ ago, i'm not doing memory intensive operations that require tons of RAM 24/7 and ECC.


>different people do different things with their computers and these different things require different hardware to run most efficiently

>he does something different than I do, he's wrong for doing something I dont do.

kay.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA

>>59203438
>paying more and getting less

t-that will show those hook nosed kikes!

>but its got objectively better performance!

in only a handful of specific use cases, most times it's slower or only slighty faster than intels 4 core.

all that for only 500 bucks. whew

>>59203438
what non i7 would you recommend with 6 cores?

>>59203453
lol you have to reboot to kick things up a notch?

>>59201130
Oh look. Another
>intel desperately scrambles to defame AMD before they reveal their quad cores

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>>59203492
>32GB because
LOL
So
hol' up
so you sayin'

lol ayo
so you sayin' you spent the same amount
but you got
check this
this other guy got 50% more CPU and 4x RAM
so you sayin'

you did that for video games?

>>59203524
I COULD OC form inside the OS, but it's not as stable from my experience. It's much better to set your OC in the BIOS with hard voltage settings. And since I have two BIOS's why wouldnt I utilize that?

It's literally 45-60 seconds to reboot, wew so much production lost.

>>59203539
Yeah, better buy legacy hardware that has shit single core performance to PROVE I'm not a gaymer :^)


dumb fuck, are you REALLY so retarded to think I can't have a nice job, a nice computer AND enjoy gaming?

Not to mention, my HTC vive would be garbage with your setup. and GUESS what VR is more than just gaming, VR and AR are going to define high end creative professional work for the next several decades, good luck doing any of that with your dual xeons you dumb cunt.

>>59203542
>tfw this guy has this shitty computer and has to worry about stability of all things
damn it's like 2005 in this thread
how's your voodoo graphics card? lmao
oh wait you actually probably have today's equivalent
because you're a manchild who plays video games heh

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>>59201130
nigger how fucking retarded are you? that would be like updating from i5 6500 to i5 7500. learn to wait for reviews you stupid cunt, but i guess that doesnt matter since you're a shitposting kike shill and logic doesnt matter for you.

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>>59203576
>Not to mention, my HTC vive would be garbage with your setup
ok enjoy your video games

>>59203595
>AR and VR are gaming only

better tell microsoft and adobe.

>>59203576
Why are you so defensive about playing vidya? Fuck that guy. Just own it. There's nothing wrong with playing video games. Everyone I know plays video games.

>>59201660
I don't really mind losing a few fps when it's already more than 120fps average. 6frames isn't big when you're already that high. They had to show their processor in a good light, it's not bad by any means. Considering it's right there with a Skylake 6600k and I'm on a 3570k, I can consider upgrading to Ryzen since I want more cores.

>>59203516
I wouldn't recommend 6 cores at all because only retards buy hexacore CPU's.

>>59203542
>overclocking
>production

lol

>>59203602
Yeah, I'm sure you're worried about using adobe products with your vive—that's totally why you got the vive and why you care so much about "muh single thread performance". Even if I want to ignore the fact that the difference is negligible in 98% of titles on the market because they are primarily GPU limited with today's CPUs, that's still such a weaksauce excuse.

>>59203604
this

>>59203604
Because to be honest, I dont game. I play counter strike occasionally, but I'm not playing AAA games, i'm mainly doing VR social stuff, and trying to work on a virtual desktop application (either for personal use or if it gets decent, I might try and release it as an actual free to use application)

>>59203576
hey how's lunch bud

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>>59203582
Not that guy but reading this thread has proven that you are indeed a manchild whether you play vidya or not. Show your fucking pay stubs of stfu faggot. You have an over expensive setup that you meme on 4chan. The literal definition of a manchild. kys.

>>59203639
Not bad, eating pizza. Yours?

>>59203636
>Because to be honest, I dont game. I play counter strike occasionally, but I'm not playing AAA games, i'm mainly doing VR social stuff, and trying to work on a virtual desktop application (either for personal use or if it gets decent, I might try and release it as an actual free to use application)
oh then you really have no excuse to red herring the single-thread performance, interesting
so you only implied that you care a lot about gaming earlier to throw us off of the fact that you're asspained about your lower total cpu power

Sad!

>>59203645
>You have an over expensive setup that you meme on 4chan
from Zimbabwe or something? That setup can be purchased with about a week at McDonald's.

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>>59203649
>projecting

alright

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

AMDTARDS REKT YET AGAIN

BAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>59203646
too bad paying more for a slower computer left a bad taste in your mouth, probably ruining the pizza

>>59203666
stop projecting

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>>59203673
For someone who claims to not need to rationalize his purchase this is actually hilarious. Please tell me more about your higher performance.

>>59203685
stop projecting

This thread has devolved into actual autism

>>59203649
Wait, how doesn't he need single core performance? Vive sucks dick unless you have decent single core performance, none of those applications are particularly well threaded unless they're Vulkan.

>>59201660
>buying a $500 cpu
>just for gaymen
ishygddt

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>>59203665
1. You need less than that setup because you most likely just shitpost and download memes
2. You most likely did buy it with money you accumulated working at McDonalds in your 3rd world shithole of Zimbabwe.
3. A child kicks a screams "Stop liking what I don't like" just like what you're doing.

>>59203725
Nah, he's obviously a superior human, what he likes is what everyone should like.

>>59203725
#rekt, nice one

>>59203748

>>59203685
Look, I don't want to argue about this anymore. But here's the difference between you and I: If I ask you how many hours a week you play video games, would you have to lie on the Internet effort to downplay it? Because I wouldn't.

>here's the difference between you and I
Oh, and the +50% processing power and +96 GB RAM. :^)

>>59203772
>Look, I don't want to argue about this anymore. But here's the difference between you and I: If I ask you how many hours a week you play video games, would you have to lie on the Internet effort to downplay it? Because I wouldn't.
In the past two weeks I have 20 hours of Rocket league and 10 hours of counter strike.

Most of rocket league was with a friend on Friday night and Saturday. Counter strike is spread out, maybe 30-45 minutes a day, but i skip days occasionally.

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>>59203798
>In the past two weeks I have 20 hours of Rocket league and 10 hours of counter strike.

>>59203772
What kind of work do you do that you need that?

>>59203803
Yes, how dare I spend 10% of my time doing things I enjoy.

just kys neckbeard, you think gaming is for kids and think you're superior for having more multicore performance despite the fact you've never made a single dime off your computer.

>>59203772
haha the ram meme

cool!

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>>59203828

>>59203649
>Because to be honest, I dont game
>>59203798
>In the past two weeks I have 20 hours of Rocket league and 10 hours of counter strike.

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>They have been at it for the past 2 hours

Might consider getting a life because it's a fucking shameful display, sad!

>>59203828
>>59203843
oh god, I'm going to archive this thread and post a link to it any time I see this idiot posting here

he's probably one of those people who posts his little grey speccy box every hour on the hour

>>59203843
You consider counter strike and rocket league
>gaming

Both of those games will run on a 5 year old computer with EASE.

I specifically said, which you happened to not quote :^)
> I'm not playing AAA games

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>>59203865
>You consider counter strike and rocket league
>>gaming

This is like saying it's not gay if he's wearing a dress. You are an endless source of keks.

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>>59203798
>In the past two weeks I have 20 hours of Rocket league and 10 hours of counter strike.

>>59203885
Kek, I like how you keep ignoring the fact you've never made money from your computer and you literally bought it because you liked the idea of a dual socket system, and has NOTHING to do with your actual needs.

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>>59203887

>>59203897
>b-b-but the higher performance is more than you!

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>>59203897
>>59203909
>I need the performance because I play 30 hours of games in two weeks, I basically don't game though bro so I don't really need it.. meh..
why not spend that 30 hours with your wife and kids
oh wait you're a manchild you plays video games and resorts to silly logical fallacies in an effort to avoid addressing the actual discussion or making a real argument

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>adults playing video games
>on my /g/

>>59203942
I have a job though

>>59203932
>he never makes time for his own interests

Also
>i'm mainly doing VR social stuff, and trying to work on a virtual desktop application

Yeah, 100% need it for gaming, you got me.


moron, you are using shitty /pol/ tactics for your arguments.

>>59203909
>but muh single thread and video games

>>59203956
>and trying to work on a virtual desktop application
so you're tinkering? got it.

>>59203956
>moron, you are using shitty /pol/ tactics for your arguments.
you departed from coherent and reasonable discussion like three posts in, spare me your nonsense, silly manchild

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>>59202753
>keep pretending you xeons are better, we've had this same argument half a dozen times over the past year anyway.
>mfw more than one person has given this guy a hard time about his shitty computer and it has clearly triggered him each time

it didn't have to be this way

>>59203969
kek, yeah, better to pull things out of context and "forget" to mention things that refute the exact thing you're trying to call me out on.

Honestly, it makes it seem like you can't support your own argument without having to resort to taking my own comments out of context.

>>59203995
stop acting like you're a paragon of logic when you're the one who derailed what should have been a casual discussion about similar hardware between two people with (what I would have thought were) similar interests, sperglord

>>59204010
>i only became an asshole because you wouldn't admit i'm right

lol kay

Reading the posts of this angry i7 autist with buyers remorse,
is like watching a rhino in heat after it couldn't find a female specimen for 3 months and going out of control.
I'm liking it.

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>>59204000
if I have 1300 cookies and someone gives me 700 cookies, how much has my cookie portfolio grown?

hard mode: what cookie tax bracket am i now in and what is the corresponding capital gains tax?

>>59204016
>resorting to just saying random nonsense that doesn't even follow from the post to which you're replying
it all started here >>59201937 when you got assmad that I disagreed with you about the performance boost and further upset (?) after I pointed out that you were probably talking about gaming

you could have just conceded and said "yeah, man, I play about 15 hours of games per week and the extra single-thread perf helps with that" and I would have said oh that's nice, here's what I do

but no, you couldn't handle that

>>59204000
>>>59203241(You)
>>This is a 50% difference
>>1300 * 2 = 2000
kek

>>59204034
anyone who honestly thinks a dual socket xeon setup that is several years old is better for a DAILY USE computer than a 6800k/5820k is literally retarded.

I've already said several times, if you're rendering or encoding FULL time, by all means go for it.
But you've gotta be stupid to think it's good for general use (IE good for any use case)


>>59204068
I take exception with your bullshit argument that gaming is the ONLY use case for single core performance. You're literally living in fantasy land if you believe that.

>>59204068
1300*1.5=1950 != 2000 :^)

>>59204089

>anyone who honestly thinks a dual socket xeon setup that is several years old is better for a DAILY USE computer than a 6800k/5820k is literally retarded.
>I take exception with your bullshit argument that gaming is the ONLY use case for single core performance. You're literally living in fantasy land if you believe that.
One after the other like that? Really? See, this is your problem—you seem to have no self-awareness or something. You take issue with my argument (but don't really address it), and anyone who does x is a fucking retard hurdhurduhr. Okay, bud. You're clearly not an adult—at least not mentally. Plays video games, gets emotional over minor disagreements, etc.

Also, I addressed muh single thread helps with other things above, but you never really replied. (In fact, that's when you got assmad.)

>>59202329
>You got all angry and started being vulgar for no reason but here you are pretending that there's a meaningful single-core difference for the end user between even a Pentium-branded chip from two generations ago and the most expensive chip on the market. Can you name a single thing this is actually true for? Your only answer is video games, which is why you started memeing when I said this earlier.

>>59204208
>One after the other like that? Really?
What the fuck is the problem? Both of those are 100% true and don't contradict each other in the slightest....

>>59204208
Also, as I already mentioned, anything regarding the Vive and my work there is going to rely on single core performance being a hell of a lot better than 2.6GHz

>>59203984
>more than 1 person

By the looks of it you're samefagging like a mofo because when I last checked the number of posters 30 minutes and 50 replies ago it was 32. It's now 33. You should kys in all honesty.

>>59201234
oh god, underage

>>59204229
>What the fuck is the problem? Both of those are 100% true and don't contradict each other in the slightest....
They make you look like a dipshit. You don't approach this reasonably
>ur argument about video games is bullshit
>anyone who does [completely reasonable thing] is a "retard"!
I remember being 16 and acting like a dipshit, too, but at least I had a basic grasp on logic and knew enough not to make myself look so foolish

Not to mention that it's just nonsense from the outset
> anyone who honestly thinks a dual socket xeon setup that is several years old is better
>he says as he defends a similarly old processor

>>59204270
>anything regarding the Vive and my work there
Ah, right, the virtual desktop project you have on github, got it.

>>59204282
>By the looks of it you're samefagging like a mofo because when I last checked the number of posters 30 minutes and 50 replies ago it was 32. It's now 33. You should kys in all honesty.
There are multiple people having a lengthy shitpost contest, it's not hard to understand. Lurk moar newfag.

>>59204290
I'm convinced everyone on this board is either underage or mentally ill. There's no other way to explain the behavior of the people here.

>>59204307
Whats even more likely is the same faggot is giving this guy a hard time because hes a neckbeard virgin samefagging to make himself feel better for buying a shitty dual xeon setup and has nothing to use it on.

>>59204296
>[completely reasonable thing]
In what world is buying a several year old motherboard on ebay, and old used Xeon CPUs that were probably run 24/7 for the past 5 years, a
>[completely reasonable thing]

sorry, but unless you NEED that multicore performance, it is not at ALL a reasonable thing to do in 2017. I specifically said FOR A DAILY USE COMPUTER. As in, a home computer you're going to use for any and everything you might need to do for the next several years, that can be encoding, rendering, gaming, video playback, AR/VR, etc etc.

And as I said, if you have a specific use for those cores, go ahead and buy it, but don't pretend it's something EVERYONE should do.

>>59204296
>similarly old processor
>Q4 '14 is the same as Q2 '12

hmmm really makes you think

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>>59203604
>all my neckbeard friends play gaymes!
I believe you

>>59204351
Sorry that you spent money on a shitty 6-core system and get mad when someone casually mentions that another configuration is superior. This emotional investment you have is just ridiculous. And look at these hilarious rapidfire posts, lol.
>>59204342
>>59204351
Just pathetic.

>In what world is buying a several year old motherboard on ebay, and old used Xeon CPUs that were probably run 24/7 for the past 5 years, a
So do you have an actual argument or...? You do realize just stating facts and then implying that they're somehow wrong or bad isn't an argument, right?

I'm sorry about your shitty computer and whatever mental illness compels you to respond to people who accidentally step on your autistic toes by mentioning a superior setup. :( I hope you find peace or get on medication some day.

>>59204359
>"similarly" means "the same as"
Memes aside, you are mentally deficient. Like, you are actually unintelligent. I don't know how you're even posting without forgetting to breathe and passing out from all the retard brain overload.

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>>59204395
>buys burned out shit on ebay
>calls others setup shitty

Someone please nuke this board.

>>59204395
>casually mentions that another configuration is superior
In things that can use all your cores, in pretty much everything else? Nope.

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>>59204432
>tfw I got "burned out shit" which has 50% better performance and 4x the RAM and is rock solid
>meanwhile you paid more for less and you're th only one concerned with muh stability
>I even roasted you for this earlier >>59203582
top kek this guy

Anyway my loving wife (the thing you'll likely never have) just walked in so I'm going to go spend time with her instead of paying you the attention you so desperately crave, hope your chapped ass can recover from the fact that your computer sucks

enjoy your video games :^)

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>>59201660
how is it screwed?

1700
>cheaper
>same performance as a 7700k
>much better multithreaded performance

Why would you not get one?

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>>59204481
wasn't me retard

>>59201660
AMD is scummy as fuck, they always do this with their marketing.

Fuck AMD, I hope you AMDtards learned your lesson.

They are the scum of the earth.

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>>59204395
not him but another X99 user.

Get fucked retard, your old platform can't support NVMe M.2 drives.

>>59201660
Wait, so the stock 1800X is about the same in multithreaded workloads as the 6900K while delivering 95% of the gaming performance at 46% of the price?

Can someone explain to me how this is a bad thing?

>>59204495
Jesus fucking christ you're fagging with that one shit picture on every thread.
Ryzen is shit
You can't change that

>>59204660
Because the 7700k is identical performance for basically the same price.

What the chart really shows is how shit games are at using more cores.

>>59204660
If you're looking at the 6900K from a perspective where money matters, you're doing it wrong.
1800X at $500 is as fast as an i5-4690K from 2014 that cost $250 on release.
It's a disaster, gaming-wise.

>>59204736
>basically the same price.
7700K is faster, at $150 less. Complete knockout.

>>59204736
If you needed 8 cores why would you buy an 8-core CPU? I'm having trouble think of someone who was seriously looking at the 6900K vs. 1800X, and then said "But muh games. May as well buy the 7700K." they're two completely different audiences.

>>59204926
Excuse me, I meant 4-core CPU. My point is the 7700K is a completely different type of CPu then the 6900K and 1800X, I don't know why people are even bringing it up.

>>59204736
>for basically the same price.
It's cheaper tho.

>>59201158
>poor people
>cheering for the the underdog
>people think they're friendly, when they're actually just as bad as intel/nvidia, they're just more desperate than those companies

various combinations of those.


I can't imagine they still have any of the fans they got from the athlon II stuff that people liked.

>>59204736
Dude the 7700k is $160 less

This looks really really bad for AMD when they are getting beat by a Intel processor that costs over a hundred dollars less.

>>59205949
The 6900K gets beats by the 7700K despite being $700 more. Somehow Intel survived.

>>59206448
So Intel beat themselves? That's the whole point, the 7700k is just a great CPU

>>59206448
Actually the 6990K is 1000$ because it can do both 8 cores and 5GHz. Is it priced properly ... well, the AMD 500$ CPU does 4GHz and is around 30% less powerful in single core performance so... yeah, maybe it is.

AMD released an OK product priced around where it should be priced. But it's definitely not an INTEL KILLER OMG!1111!.

It's just an OK cpu. That's great for AMD I suppose now they have CPUs which are a somewhat valid purchase. As long as you stick to the 300$ and bellow ones that is.

>>59206745
>it can do both 8 cores and 5GHz
maybe on LN2, but not on any normal consumer cooling.

4.2-4.6GHz is about where it maxes out on most consumer coolers.


It's even worse for the 10 core, max you can get is generally 3.9-4.2GHz Some people have gotten up to around 4.5GHz, but with temps I wouldn't be okay with even when using huge custom loops.

>>59206745
$1,000 reasonable gtfo here