So post your UMPC or shitty old hardware motherfucker. Lets get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_LPP2Dr-So&feature=youtu.be

http://m.wikihow.com/Recognize-Autism-Symptoms-in-Yourself

~Bumping my own thread god damn, what happened to /g obsession with UMPCs

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>>59194427
should add anime into the symptoms as well.

My eee 701 is in the mail, it should get here Friday. I bought it for $35 on ebay because it was the first computer I ever owned (I forgot what happened to my original one though...) and I want one just for nostalgia/as a collectors item. Hopefully it's one of the models with an upgradable SSD, the ebay listing said it was slow to boot but showed it working.

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>>59194437

>>59194451
I dont remember mine really I got it when i was really young had Dark Basic and wrote a 3d pong game though. First i probably used was some p4 dell optiplex though.

Also googled the specs is the 512mb ram upgradeable?

>>59194496
>Also googled the specs is the 512mb ram upgradeable?
Yes. I think up to 4gb. I bought a 2gb stick with it because for some reason, 2gb laptop ddr2 ram is like $15 while 4gb sticks are like $50.

>>59194510
2gb should be plently, what os were u planning to run on it? I understand if your going with XP cus nostalgia.

>>59194527
>I understand if your going with XP cus nostalgia.
Actually that's pretty much exactly what I was planning. I planned to install XP on the main SSD and try various Linux distros on an SD card. Also, I think Windows FLP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legacy_PCs), which is basically XP, would be better for the eee.

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>>59194567
Never new about that i think vivaldy still has xp support but im not sure

Win flp seems pretty chill.

>>59194451
>(I forgot what happened to my original one though...)
It was nowhere near the first for me, but same. I really thought that I still had it but nah, I moved recently and did not find it.

Its a pretty shitty device, frankly. If the keyboard was as good as on some better eeePC:s, it'd be a nice portable text editor and SSH machine or something.

>>59193575
Saw one of those Toughpads in one of those used laptop stores in Toyko, cost around 80,000円

>>59196132
So about 3 cents?

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>>59193575
UMPC yes, but no old shitty hardware sadly.

>>59194427
>stop liking what I don't like! reee

>>59193580
The face of /g/.

kek

>>59193575
aesthetic

>>59193575

Man I have such soft spot for everything rugged Panasonic.

>>59198496
fuck no, /g/ is full of fat autistic fucks who are still more men that that bitch, this is just a failed hipster attention whore

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Here you go op

>>59198496

Grandpa here.

Can't see anything wrong with him.

Post your pic and let me judge you.

>>59198617
Google fat autistic neckbeard and there I will be.

>>59194480
Oh man look at all those results!

>BBC NEWS

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>>59193575
http://comma.guide/vocative-comma/
http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/commas_with_vocative_case.htm
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Than-and-Then

>>59198599
hows runescape at 5fps?

>>59198778
>caring about grammar on a taiwanese knitting board

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>>59193580

>>59198778
kek, /g/ must be a pain as a english major

>>59193575
install htop-temperature

>>59194434
it became /v/ completely

>>59202413
what do you mean? why would /v/ care about underpowered mobile computers?

>>59202452
I mean this board has become /v/'s shopping cart and everyone that had a diverse interest in actual technology has mostly left

>>59202475
gotcha

>>59202475
/g/ personal electronics is in fullest force, but still UMPCs get me erect.

I bought in to the GPD Pocket scam already.

>>59202571
Don't get a early unit

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>>59202571
I like the UMPC models that were put out at the time when they had a peak opportunity to gain market interest.
Don't care much for whatever is put out today because I'm worried that support and dev community will be shit

>>59202699
>put out at the time when they had a peak opportunity
so, now? because now we actually have competitive hardware for such sizes

>>59193575
Install gen2 tbqfh desu sempaitachi

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>>59202737
>so, now?
too late
touch input smarthsit has taken the primary market by grip so there is no incentive to mass produce and spend money on proper design

UMPC will only be a niche
hopefully as prototyping hardware gets cheaper we will see good hardware but there is still the issue of getting a dev community interested in developing for whatever chipset and hardware will be there

>>59199168
runescape is 3 fps I think

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Samsung NC10 netbook.

So slow but good battery for a power outage.

>>59194427
>>59194437

>In extreme cases, autistic people cannot comprehend that people have ideas that differ from theirs.

>>59193575
I want one of those Toughbooks for ham radio type activities in the field.

How's the battery life?

>>59203023
Horrible, the military carries a bag of extra batteries.

>>59202851
>>59202737
we're getting into shit like x86 tablet territory, which has all the software you could ever want. Touch is hopefully optional cause of how shit it is.

>>59203259
x86 tablets are proof it can be done in the desired size, now it just needs to be done on more devices with form factors that aren't utter shit

>>59203336
>x86 tablets are proof it can be done in the desired size
>what is gpd win
the Pocket will be probably the formfactor you are looking for

>>59203353
No shit. I never said modern UMPCs don't exist, I said more need to.

>>59203377
>more need to
but muh market
>protip, there isn't any
gpd even exist only because the device are also great for emulation/gayming, far bigger market

>>59203395
I never said it was economically viable, nor are you in any place to claim it is or isn't. You're just blindly spewing speculation.

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>>59194427
There is a good bunch of bullshit in there.
Ok, which one of you made this?

>>59203423
>nor are you in any place to claim it is or isn't. You're just blindly spewing speculation.
Literary a deaf and dumb kid can see how many of them are on the market, how ridiculously overpriced they are and how badly they sell, you're just in a dream bubble

>>59203395
well as a complete product, maybe. Lots of the components are just repurposed phoneshit so it's not like it's some rare one off production thing.

>>59203499
>can see how many of them are on the market, how ridiculously overpriced they are and how badly they sell
Literally the logic of a deaf dumb kid.
>few companies try
>economy of scale causes higher prices
>higher prices cause people who would buy to hold on to their dough

>>59203578
literary means, there is no market for them, except neets who can't afford it
apple sells niche expensive products as well, but they are doing fine, because there's actual demand for their niche shit

>>59203612
Again, you're basing this on nothing but blind speculation. Come back when you've got market studies backing your claims.

>>59203578
So you think that actual competition and cheap prices would benefit it? You think the userbase for them is that big that there will be people buying new ones all the time and that it would in the end actually be profitable for the companies?

Lurk these threads more, you would have a better image of the whole thing.

>>59203662
So you think what a few retards spew on some obscure mongolian cave painting forum is somehow relevant in any way whatsoever?

>>59203698
The people here are the only ones who would actually buy it, other people just take a laptop or a tablet over it anytime. You won't fit a whole UMPC market between those.

>>59203720
Still waiting on that marketing research you must be basing all of this on. Surely you don't expect me to take the word of some random dumbass on the Internet.

>>59203720
The people here certainly don't have the kind of money showing up on their crowdfunding campaigns, but it is a limited market.

Probably less limited than the previous UMPC market pre-blackberry and pre-phone dumbing. People believe portable devices can be powerful and also have use cases for them.

>>59203743
No market research, just plain old logic, having been in the UMPC scene for over 10 years already.
So yeah, not basing those speculations of blindsight but actual experience.

You will understand once you start actually lurking the market for them.

>Surely you don't expect me to take the word of some random dumbass on the Internet.
Taking anything as true from this board/site would be autistic. I don't expect you to.

>>59202699
What's that device's model?

>>59203800
I've been lurking for years, I'm full aware of how things currently are. You need to realize that many people don't know that UMPCs ever existed. I've never encountered anyone that actually knew of them. Everyone who's seen mine is mystified by the fact that I have a Game Boy sized machine running Windows. If modern ones started hitting the market and they were well advertised, I could see them doing well. Hell even GPD seems to be doing great on the Win and I don't even know if it was advertised other than shills. I expect the Pocket to do well too, I don't see why others couldn't.

>>59203423
>implying a big company who does market researches all the time to expand their market would not have already came out with a viable cheap mass produced unit and not those expensive devices that we have gotten over the years (their research would have obviously showed them how many people would actually buy it if it was cheaper so they wouldn't have to limit the production and have a high price)

>>59203964
yeah but everyone knows what a blackberry could do, before it was android.

>>59203964
They will do well, I agree, but it's still not as viable market that it would be feasible for several companies to produce them profitably
The Win is also seeked after by the /v/ and /vr/ market and the Pocket will be the product for the /tpg/ like of.

But having several models from different companies, will just make them more expensive again, because people would buy even less of them from one single company for them to profitable.

>>59203970
>implying they want to bother when they can just keep churning out giant cellphones called tablets

>>59203980
What's BlackBerry got to do with this?

>>59204008
Different companies on the market would also push them to make the devices better

>>59204055
blackberry was effectively doing the work that was predicted the UMPC market would get in the late 90s/early00's. PDAs and them were trying to up power and UMPC was basically an attempt to expand it. Blackberry did the 'good enough' on a phone and conquered the market of both.

Now I'm not sure if the phones have just killed the market generally or moved in a different direction but that's all dead.

>>59204055
>Different companies on the market would also push them to make the devices better
Look at the tablet market, nobody is giving a fuck, they are just as good as they have to be.

Even if there was more market, you won't get better SoC from Intel, they are already as good as x86 in their power class and there would be nowhere as good as a market for them that there is for tablets right now.

>>59204055
that would imply that they could sell those better devices for cheap and profit in the first place

>>59204120
You've got to keep in mind though, those devices were shit even when they were new. Now, with modern Atoms, we're talking high end Core2 Duo performance in the palm of your hand.

>>59204128
SoC may be the same but it'd be in a usable form factor.

>>59204169
What makes you think they couldn't? I mean right now GPD has a handheld PC for sale that's cheaper than cellphones some people itt own.

>>59204225
nobody pays for cellphones.
they get them on contract so the price is abstracted away.
it is insane to ask 700$ for something with the processing power of a galaxy S3

>>59204225
And everybody who actually wants one in a usable factor will buy the GPD Pocket and be happy.
If there where two companies coming out with something like the Pocket, then they would just share the userbase, not gain more of it.

>>59204225
I know what we have available now, I'm not sure the cooling engineering and battery tech can keep up on anything remotely useful. I plan to downclock the shit out of my gpd pocket, I just want the fucking HD screen on ANY x86 portable right now. I bet if you had a VR or something on separate power you'd get enough battery life between them to be okay though.

Laptops are still pushing 1366x768 shit on anything <15".

>>59204249
>idiots buy them on contract
FTFY

>>59204249
>he thinks paying 99¢ upfront is the same as paying 99¢ total
And Galaxy S3? There's no way 4 year old ARM CPU is on par with a modern Atom.

>>59204260
I'll be getting the Pocket but won't be happy. Content, sure. But someone needs to copy the VAIO UX before I'm happy with a modern UMPC.

>>59204279
If it can work in a tablet there's no reason it can't work in a passively or especially actively cooled UMPC.

>>59204280
it literally costs less that way.
>>59204332
there's also no way that piece of shit is worth 600 or 700$

>>59204279
My GPD Win won't go over 75C even on maximum load for long periods, doing something like emulation with Dolphin, it goes into the mid/high 60's, battery lasts using Dolphin for around 5-6 hours , no mods, rev 2 unit, the thermal limit is at 85C, it never throttles.

So I don't know what remotely useful would be for you, browsing the web with Chrome and 10 tabs, playing youtube videos and chatting at the same time, memory scales fine, no performance or heat issues, doing just as fine temperature and battery wise.

So I don't think the Pocket would be any worse.

>>59204332
>I'll be getting the Pocket but won't be happy. Content, sure. But someone needs to copy the VAIO UX before I'm happy with a modern UMPC.
that's the point, if there was something like a VAIO UX clone on the market at the same time as the Pocket, you would just buy that, like probably many other people, and both the companies would profit less than GPD would being the only one

>>59204279
>Laptops are still pushing 1366x768 shit on anything <15".
How about MacBooks? They don't push that shit anymore for 5 years.

>>59204428
if I want a vaio UX clone and 5 people want a GPD pocket, GPD will only make 5 sales regardless of whether or not a vaio ux clone exists

>>59204464
But they won't make 6 sales like they would now, because you are buying a Pocket and not UX clone. Get it?

>>59204394
what emulation with dolphin?

>>59204760
In this case, playing GameCube games.

>>59193580
KEK

Currently I use a netbook and tablet for whenever travelling. Also PSP and PSVita.
Most of my netbooks use is actually as a portable router and media server for the other 3.
It's kinda neat because I have it set up in such a way where if I want to have the netbook on standard wifi mode, I turn it on, and if I want it to an adhoc network when travelling, I turn it off. (using the Fn key toggle for Wifi)
If I ever want to actually disable, I right-click->disable on its system tray icon.
I found this out entirely by accident because the Wifi toggle actually just disconnects rather than disables the card. Dodgy as FUCK, but really handy in my case since I regularly switch between the 2 states.

I would prefer a UMPC though.
If I were to get one, I would replace the portable router+server functionality with a Raspberry Pi instead, then use the UMPC more often than I currently do with the netbook.
Not sure what one I would go with though.
Any good list of old, current and upcoming UMPCs?
Even something at specs good as or better than peak-netbook-performance days would be golden.
I could play Dwarf Fortress pretty well on my Samdung NC10 on a 2x2 world <100 dorfs (more fun limit anyway), also Minecraft back at the start. (before lazy-Notch happened)

>>59204697
I'm not that guy. I think most people won't settle for something they don't really want just because it's the closest thing. Nobody "needs" a UMPC. Just wait until a good one is out instead of wasting money lads.

>>59204370
Of course there is.

>>59204428
no

>>59205025
I wouldn't really call getting the Pocket settling, I've wanted a VAIO P for years and the Pocket's not too much more than picking up a used one. I would definitely prefer a UX clone though.

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anyone planning to get this?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/

>>59205135
>ARM
no thanks

>>59193580
I would fuck the ass of this trap

>>59205135
>arm
>qhd

>>59204370
>doesn't understand resource cost != only cost.
What is construction, R&D, software dev, feature dev, advertising, etc.

Retards like you are the ones that whine at a restaurants prices being 2-10x the price of the food.
No fucking shit it does. They need to pay for every un-used seat as well as you, your food, the staff, the heating and so on.
Same shit applies to hardware.

Don't think I am justifying them though, I don't and never will have one. Certainly not with current shit that is going on in those markets. (removing every feature ever, vendor / service / OS lock-in, hardware removal, forced touchscreen everywhere, etc.)
I'll wait for the smartphone meme to die before going near it, then they'll actually need to make decent shit again. Only a matter of time. It already hit saturation point, now it's just replacements from here on.

>>59193580
Is this regular 4chan member?
If so then I'm leaving this playground...

>>59205220
No, that's a degenerate, usually most of use are just autistic

>>59193580
>not installing Temple OS
wow, fage.
How else are you going to rape your ears at the OS sounds?

>>59205243
Thank god.
Thought I'm in a wrong place.

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I got a GPD Win because it satisfies my manchild needs too and I'm pretty darn glad I did, far better than you faggots made me think it was.

>>59205217
I didn't mention the resource cost. I said that as a whole, it is not worth 6 or 7 hundred dollars. Including the R&D. Look at that retarded keyboard. If it had an IBM-style keyboard that'd already be much better.

>>59205144
>>59205155

so /g/ likes umpcs with ancient pentiums rather than brand new 10-core ARM?

>>59205380
once you've got arm you've got locked down drivers and bullshit proprietary operating systems that are allowed to use them.

>>59205320
Oh, you're talking of the UMPC, I was referring to the Smartphones.

UMPC, it's even MORE relevant for them.
UMPCs are considerably more niche than a niche-interest eatery is.
They need to pay out the ass for the fact their hardware is less worth than even a shit old smartphone is, with respect to the overall hardware market. (hence the high price)

Same applies to, say, a Tiny Home.
The price of building those yourself can easily be in the $15k range and be incredibly decent.
A pre-made one of similar quality? $40-100k.

You could probably make a better one yourself with a Raspberry Pi with FPGAs, learning and writing your own drivers to offload processing to said FPGAs, and still be cheaper and more rewarding and worthy.
But sometimes, sometimes people just want something now. People will pay out the ass for niche interests, regardless of price. (see sex dolls)

>>59205380
dunno, the latest Atoms perform extremely good, only being surpassed in graphics on high end ARM SoCs like Tegra

>>59205394

the most open computers currently on the market are ARM based. Take the Novena for example

All of the arm umpc's I've seen so far have open U-Boot firmware, like the Pyra.

Many of the windows umpcs, like the GPD win, have x86 but are too locked down to support proper linux.

>>59205459
>have x86 but are too locked down to support proper linux.
Not for long, after the Pocket comes out the Win will have proper Linux support too.

>>59205459
>too locked down
nothing to do with being locked down, the win is as open as any other x86 computer, it's just that the drivers aren't mature enough yet to be actually fully usable

>a device that even lets you into the efi shell and no write restrictions on the firmware/bios is considered locked down now
kek, nice one

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>>59203866
I still want one. I had another image but I can't find it at the moment

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>>59202699
>>59203866
Oh wait, found it. Thats the model number

>>59205611
nice lab

>>59205649
It's not mine sadly. I saved those 2 images in 2011 off of some board here, it may have been /g/ or /a/

>>59204279
define "useful"

>>59205682
I dunno, something that takes more than a few hours with some processor and network load. Games are an obvious thing, I guess.

>>59205506

>implying the pocket won't be ubuntu-only due to shitty custom kernel and binary blobs everywhere.

from plebbit:
The device itself sounds fantastic, but I'm a little concerned about how good the Linux support will be. There's a big difference between being able to boot a custom Ubuntu remix and having mainline kernel support.
In particular:
The Wifi chipset isn't mentioned in the specs
The GPD Win seems to have limited Linux support
The following comment from the developer is troubling: "Actually for Ubuntu version ... we need to develop customization driver for it."
Edit:
Several people are now asking for clarification on the level of Linux support in the IGG comments. There seems to be a bit of a language barrier but as far as I can gather ...
The device will require custom drivers. The drivers will be binary only. They claim, installing some distros will be impossible as a result (RHEL and Fedora are mentioned).
Honestly I'm not sure the people making this device are very famiar with the GNU/Linux ecosystem. My gut tells me their Ubuntu remix will be running on an Android franken-kernel.
Given that the project is already well funded, I'd recommend waiting until the first devices to ship, before spending any money. Perhaps someone will figure out how to get this thing running on a proper distro.

>>59205871
Then it literally couldn't be ubuntu, thats how the licenses work.

>>59193575
very cool, but 3000 service hours isn't too bad,
My E7270 Latitude I got in May of last year has nearly 5000 hours (according to SSD Life)

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>>59193580
hoo boy...

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>>59198246
>win10
>16.04
:')

>>59203230
Havent tested it batteries are hotswappable which is pretty cool.
I remember it being pretty reasonable like at least a few hours though.

>>59207415
>16.04
as said, no shitty old hardware, it doesn't have to rape itself with linux, it can actually run windows

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>>59206520
Yeah it just freaked me out a bit man. I know ssds have limited right/read times, but im really surprised the battery still holds a pretty good charge.

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>>59193580
>>59193580

LOOK AT THIS FUCKING KID AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Has anybody ever used these to do some light programming? I end up SSH'ing into remote servers or mainframes to do 98% of my work so having something this portable would be great.
But the keyboards seem shit

>>59194427
>http://m.wikihow.com/
>m
Fucking phoneposters

>>59207795
Keyboard is pretty terrible, desu. I did use it on a flight to Korea when i was younger and did a bit of c++ programming on the trip. Touch screen isn't terrible though so maybe you could use it for remote desktop. I use xdrp on my server so i might try it out later.

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>>59198599
Hi

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>>59202893
>tfw sold my netbook

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>>59205611
I have one. But I can't seem to get the Japanese Windows 98 working. Also the current gen Linux kernel doesn't work, you'd have to use legacy Linux.

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>>59208169
>>59208194
>>59208209

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>>59208209
You might have some luck with tinycore. I had it running on a pentium MMX. I gave up on installing it with the toughbook because it wouldnt save some config files for xorg on reboot and i didnt want to manually configure the wifi for a public network. They have a wifi utility but it is pretty limited.

Pentium MMX i installed tinycore on.

>>59208238
>that faggy buster cyl

>>59198686
Big Black Cock news

>>59208359
It's a pretty cool Buster CYL actually
https://youtu.be/0zeRB45Bxn0?t=12

>>59208305
I'll look into that. The PCG-C1 uses a Transmeta Crusoe.

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>>59193575
Interesting....time to show my UMPC collection because why not.

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>>59208717
I want a sony vaio

>>59193575
What do you guys use UMPCs for (or think about using the for if you don't own one)? Only uses I can think of are games and applications requiring internet connectivity, and I honestly think society always being connected at all times has shown itself to be a bad thing. I personally don't bother with any general purpose device that isn't large enough to support a regular keyboard anymore.

Very small laptops like >>59202699 and >>59202851 still turn me on though.

>>59193580
>autistic lisp
Why am I not surprised. Cool machine though

>>59209173
gayming

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>ok

>>59193580
You can clearly see hes on HRT

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>>59209691
It's not working

Jesus Christ CAPTCHA sentience

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Is there a modern version of this??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHD7Paiz5s
Samsung's SPH-P9000

>>59209950
Might not meet your needs, but maybe the KingJim XMC10

>>59202571
How's the GPD Pocket? It looks cool.

>>59210130
It is vapor as of now. No prototype yet and they start shipping in june! Their mockups are all super bad shoops too. I'm probly going to regret backing it eventually.

>>59210130
>>59210156
It will have the same SoC then the Win and they have refined the Win quite well, I can't think of it going to be a failure.

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>>59209691
Still on thread not on hrt

>>59206520
>>59207752
My E7270 SSD is still showing 100% health on SSD life and 99% health via SanDisk SSD suite

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262873605625

Should I?

>>59210287
I had one awhile back it's not a great product.
You can overclock the CPU to about 1100 mhz

>>59210283
Yeah its probably fine then, it only has a 16gb ssd though, idk if size affects ssd life.
>>59210287
What are u going to do with it?

>>59210281
Well, you should be, because I can't imagine it going to be any worse the now

>>59210315
The bigger the size the more it has free cells to use and not reuse the same ones all the time

>>59210335
Yeah maybe i should run somesort of testing utility worse comes to worse I think the ssds on thses units are upgradeable.

>>59209950
>>59209965
Is there a name for this form factor? I recall seeing other devices with folding keyboards to cut down in size in the past.

>>59193580
p cute i think
just fix your voice train it idk make it sound feminine also stop dressing like a hipster.

>>59193580
A Asus EEE netbook with arch/parabola would be a better choice IMO.
Either that or the waterprooof thinkpad.

I own a tf100(atom 3736, 2gb ram)
Acer ao522(and c-50, 4gb ram)
Lenovo 11e(Celeron something, 8gb ram)

Used to have an Asus Eeepc 1000he(1.6ghz atom, 4gb) but sold it when I "upgraded" to the Acer.(it actually was a nice upgrade. It's still my most used netbook, 5 years after buying it)

Iv grown so accustomed to the small keyboard and 10" screen that anything bigger seems unwieldy.

>>59210731
I've been trying to find that out for a while. I often see small foldable bluetooth keyboards on ebay/amazon but don't feel like taking the 40$ risk to see if its worth using. Bluetooth for typing = kind of sketchy imo; GIMME A CABLE

>>59208717

aesthetic as fuck senpai

>>59208717
How's the OQO? Still usable? Battery still holding up?