Are unsalted AES encrypted data less or more secure than a salted counterpart for the purpose of simply protecting against being read?
I understand why CBC is used instead of ECB, but the "vector" of an attacker sending the same encrypted message to sort of pose as someone else is not a factor here. This data is decrypted from storage by a client, then sent over SSL/TLS to a service.
you read too much wikipedia son
>>59164559
Who knows! Max does:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt56RMbpq_0
>>59164559
Can someone give me a quick rundown on who Max Headroom was and how did he take over the transmission frequency?
>>59164559
By salted,do you mean the random data that's hashed together with a password to get a key?
A salt is known data,so I don't think it provides any extra protection for modes other than ecb.
>>59164559
I might've read your shit wrong, but....
Last I checked, the very purpose of salting passwords (by which I think you're referring to AES keys) is to prevent the insecurities the associated with identical passwords.
>>59165237
George Soros bows to Max Headroom
>>59165288
Encrypted, not hashed. Otherwise, yeah, you get the concept.
>>59165423
Yep, that's the purpose of salting hashes. The reason why you hash passwords instead of encrypting them is that when a system is compromised, you can presume that the encryption key for those passwords would be compromised too. That's why you hash instead; making it prohibitively expensive to crack every password.
>>59164559
You don't salt encrypted data. The fuck are you talking about?
>>59165986
You might, to prevent the kind of attack that I described, which CBC exists to prevent.
Well, I guess I misspoke, but if you understand the purpose of CBC you get what I mean. Salted data that is encrypted with AES, rather than encrypted data being salted.
>>59164559
CBC is fine as long as you have good quality entropy in your initialization vector. How is a salt going to have any effect on the outcome of the AES cipher?
>>59167000
It might prevent an attacker from sending the same message twice claiming to be someone else, depending on the salt.
What I'm worried about is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_cipher_mode_of_operation#Electronic_Codebook_.28ECB.29
this. I'm encrypting UTF-8 encoded text.
>>59164559
what the fuck is the p word? pepsi?
>>59168105
Don't say it.
>>59164559
I have no idea what the fuck you're asking
>>59170325
Neither does he. Most of his "question" is just word soup, the rest of it is concepts he doesn't grasp.