/dpt/ - Daily Programming Thread

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>>59163844
>dpt
>it's not an animuh

JK OP, you've done well.

epic meme! upvoted

python is useful for anything that doesn't need speed

>>59163844
"The most powerful programming language is Lisp. If you don't know Lisp (or its variant, Scheme), you don't know what it means for a programming language to be powerful and elegant. Once you learn Lisp, you will see what is lacking in most other languages." -Richard Stallman

>>59163879
>aka less then you'd think

>>59163879
>python is useful for
wrong.

>>> M = [[0]*5]*5 
>>> M
[[0, 0, 0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 0, 0, 0]]
>>> M[0][0]=666
>>> M
[[666, 0, 0, 0, 0], [666, 0, 0, 0, 0], [666, 0, 0, 0, 0], [666, 0, 0, 0, 0], [666, 0, 0, 0, 0]]
>>> wtf

>>59163900
>Richard Stallman
Stopped reading your leftist garbage right there.

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The language of the future.

>>59163904
A lot of programs are horribly coded even when not in Python. I took apart a official driver for some inductive touchscreen recently and it was horrible optimized even in C.

>>59163936
>stopped reading at the end of the sentence
Congratulations. You are now full of leftist propaganda, comrade.

>>59163972
Tell me how Bernie can still be president

>>59163942
What does it do better than other languages?

>>59163844
"While I love the power of Lisp, I am not a devotee of functional programming. I see nothing bad about side effects and I do not make efforts to avoid them unless there is a practical reason. There is code that is natural to write in a functional way, and code that are more natural with side effects, and I do not crusade about the question. I limit my crusades to issues of freedom and justice, such as to eliminate nonfree software from the world." -Richard Stallman

>>59163972
I read from right to left.

>>59164001
>Richard Stallman
Stopped reading your leftist bullshit right here.

>>59163926
Google "shallow copy"

>>59163999
Error handling without exceptions or stupid macros
Bare metal programming without B&D safety rules
Generics without inheritance
Compile time functions ("macros") that live in the same file as the rest of your code
Existing, unlike Jai

>>59163926
>j*vascript

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>>59163844
Writing a much faster Hydrus alternative in Go and C. It can already import and thumbnail files and fetch tags from Gelbooru. Currently writing tag indexing for the custom storage engine on top of BoltDB.

Would you guys be willing to look at my very simple github project without being a bully when its done?

Inb4 python Inb4 not super complex with maffs Inb4 not even a graduate Inb4 havent even had a real job Inb4 youre never going to make it Inb4 stop programming Inb4 HAHAHA Inb4 pajeet

>>59164046
>written in sepples
garbage. dropped.

>>59164088
What are you trying to do with your project?

>>59164088
Nope.

>>59164088
No, I wouldn't look at a redditor's project.

>>59164040
sure, it's just not what I expected

>>59164046
I just looked at it and it's fucking trash.
Never shill this garbage again.

Holy shit, it's so retarded.

>>59164002
>read from right to left
Even worse. You're a fucking chink or under the influence of their "culture".

>>59164125
You're too academic to appreciate what it's trying to do. Go back to your ivory tower, professor.

>>59164097
Just a simple password manager based on a cli

Also, is it ok to include other people packages in your own project? Couldn't be fucked reading through their licence (apache 2.0) to figure out if I'm allowed to use their shit as long as I give credits

kdevelop a good

>>59164140
It is weebs for sure. I am not sure how people associate reading right to left as chink.

>>59163942
>"""""""system programming language"""""""
>the compiler isn't written in the language itself
it's trash

>>59164061
do you think it will become anything more than just a side-project? having it faster than the current hydrus implementation and being able to retrieve tags from a hydrus tag repo would make it worth using

>>59164160
So long as it is an open source license and your software is open source it should be fine.

>>59164140
>You're a fucking chink
Wrong.
>under the influence of their """".culture"""".
Wrong.
I just had an accident in childhood and now I'm retarded like this.

>>59164163
>distinguishing between chink races

>>59164144
It's so fucking dumb, holy shit.
Its error handling is a step backwards.

and at what point did academic become a slur thrown by retards?

>>59164168
>>59164093
It's called bootstrapping, you commie fuckwits

>>59164194
>and at what point did academic become a slur thrown by retards?
as soon as retards became a thing.

>jewscript was a mistake

>>59164187
You are on a weeb board you retard

>>59164184
>I just had an accident in childhood and now I'm retarded like this.
yeah, sure, you mom accidentally with a chink

is programming and technology in general moving forward

>>59164204
HOSTED ON AN AMERICAN SOIL

>>59164180
One other thing, when people add (c) Name Here
in their projects what does that actually do? Or is it some type of meme. Because if the license says youre allowed to redistribute and use it freely what exactly does the copyright do?

How do I copyright something also? Do I literally just paste the symbol next to my name lmao?

Shits funny to me

>>59164210
are you sure you aren't a subhuman chink yourself? it sure does seem like it based on your butchering of English.

>>59164215
technology is

>>59164197
Why did you even consider posting this garbage language which doesn't have a non-garbage compiler yet?

>>59164239
You got to ask /biz/ about that. Copyright laws is the domain of (((them))). We do not stray there.

>>59164240
English is the language of subhuman englishmen. We speak American here, you chink.

>>59164244
rust got crated
that must mean programming is too, right

>>59164239
Just because you may redistribute it freely it doesn't mean you have the copyright - that still belongs to the original author.

>>59164272
eh

for every rust there's one of these >>59163942

>>59164254
Because it is the future. In five years we'll all be using this instead of C.

>>59164266
>calling english"""men""" englishmen
yup, found the chink.

>>59164258
>(((them)))
Copyright came about with the invention of the printing press and with wider literacy. As a legal concept, its origins in Britain were from a reaction to printers' monopolies at the beginning of the 18th century. [b]Charles II of England[/b] was concerned by the unregulated copying of books and passed the Licensing of the Press Act 1662 by Act of Parliament,[9] which established a register of licensed books and required a copy to be deposited with the Stationers' Company, essentially continuing the licensing of material that had long been in effect.

>>59164258
I actually use to visit /biz/ quite a bit, only check up on it every now and then and I can assure you thats the last place I'd want to go for any type of advice

90% of the posts there are literal bots that shill the next cryptoshit and 10% are underaged asking what they should major in

>>59164274
Oh. So that means someone could get sued if they claim its their works when it isn't even if its open source?

>>59164281
NO U

>>59164292
>Oh. So that means someone could get sued if they claim its their works when it isn't even if its open source?
Yes.

>>59164279
Why did you post it now and not in 5 years then? I couldn't care less about a language which doesn't use a self-hosting compiler.

>>59164287
>[b]

>>59164287
Yes. Now it is the domain of the jews. You think the Jews invented war as well?

Golang is basically python if it were faster than java.

>>59164301
Self-hosting is overrated during a language's early development. It encourages the language authors to make it a better language for writing compilers and a worse language for doing literally anything else.

>>59164311
>Shit is basically trash if it were runnier than poo

>>59164298
Oh ok thanks. On a random note, how do people even find out they copyright their shit? Do whiteknight consumers of the original product usually email or somehow tell the original creator?

Also isn't copyright useless outside the jurisdiction of your own country? You see china breaking a lot of copyright laws Im guessing

>>59164179
For now I want to implement all the features I need, so I can replace Hydrus. Interop with Hydrus can be added later. It should not be too hard. Do you happen to know, if the protocol is documented?

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/pol/ pls go

To CS majors, did you ever feel completely stumped and like you didn't even like programming anymore? I just did really poorly on a test and project in my second programming course and I feel like I don't even like CS anymore.

>>59164326
>using buzzwords like "overrated"
Your post is already worthless.
>during a language's early development
As I said previously, why did you post it now when it's still in early development?

>>59164334
holy shit game over
stupid game has only 1 life

>>59164335
>>>/r/ibbit

>>59164353
just like real life

>>59163942
Eh, I'd rather use Lisp.

>>59164335
You are going to do CS for majority of your life. Switch majors now or you are just going to hate yourself for the rest of your life.

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>>59164328
holy shit nearly woke my parents. lost.

>>59164335
Currently a last year cs major here, personally I realize that programming is a grunt job unless its for something very specific (analysis, physics, biological computation, chemistry computation etc), so it kinda turns me off now, what really interests me is the abstract thinker who comes up with solutions, dealing with clients and designing the software and how it looks which is probably more important than the implementation grunt work left to new grads

How far in uni are you? Its just one semester man how bad can it be.

>>59164306
I don't know the markup language for posting here except the code tag.

The idea is that copyright as a legal concept is created in Britain after Charles II of England was concerned by the unregulated copying.

The deprived western society created lgbt faggot rights, copyrights and other shit and now you're blaming Jews. Jews as talented people are making good money, if a society likes that shit, they will make that shit for a society.

>>59164393
fuck off, redditor.

>>59164378
I'm 59 hours in right now. I've completed all core course including calculus, chemistry and Chem labs, etc.

>>59164335
i dropped out because i couldn't handle the math and physics you have to take
switched to pure-programming related bachelor and never looked back

>>59164393
i'm not >>59164258

>>59164335
>>59164377
The truth is that you probably don't have a passion like the majority of people, your goal should be to get a good degree and a good job. It's very likely that you'll get bored of any other degree too, and much more likely than CS which I'm guessing you've enjoyed since long ago.

I know major-hoppers, they switch for ego and other reasons and I felt compelled to do it too, but in the end you're just fooling yourself.

Unless you want to quit uni, I'd advise you to stick with it.

>>59164308
The domain of the Jews is economics, maths and science, they have loads of Nobel prizes. Your domain is to scapegoat and to witch hunt smart people.

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>>59164397
What does 59 hours in mean? Im not american.

Well firstly you've got to calm yourself down and think critically not emotionally, do you actually hate programming? Or do you only hate programming because of this one event (shitty test/project mark) => Why did you get a shitty mark? Low motivation ? Dindu nuffin ?

Gotta truly find out why you feel a certain way

>>59164396
Fuck off subhuman goy, you don't deserve shekels, you're too stupid and lazy.

>>59164432
Copyright, patents and trademarks are the tools of the jews to maintain their stranglehold on Economics. Just look at Disney. Or any record company for that matter.

>>59164335
Some things stumped me for awhile, but I kept working at those things and I understand them now. Just giving up is the worst thing you could do.

>>59164428
I just don't know if I'm really made for this kind of work though. I'm the kind of person who can watch someone do something and completely understand what they're doing and how they're doing it, but when I'm asked to do something similar -- I'm completely lost.

>>59164432
Witch hunts are a Jewish lie

>>59164454
True.

>>59164428
The truth is also that there are better majors that offer a better degree and better jobs. If he is switching for those reasons then why not?

>>59164446
>I'm 12 days into this project
Means I've been working on this project for 12 days.

>How long have you been masturbating?
>I'm 30 minutes in, mate.
Means I've been stroking my cock for 30 minutes.

>>59164432
I
Q

man, imagine where we would be if ww2 never happened

>>59164454
Since no body answered Ill reask the question:

Isn't copyright useless for things outside your jurisdiction? Look a china they copy everything and no one can touch them, how are you even going to try fuk someone in another country?

Seems like a useless thing

>>59164446
Not that guy, but around 2 years worth of classes.

>>59164454
Disney made America great again. Disney doesn't have to make content for you for free.

I want something like the MIT license but which doesn't require a copyright notice to be distributed with the software. The WTFPL is profane and doesn't include a warranty disclaimer. I don't want to actually commit it to the public domain, so I don't want CC0.

I came up with this

AnythingGoes License

You may use this software in any way and for any purpose, without restriction.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE X CONSORTIUM BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

It's a reworded WTFPL with the warranty disclaimer from MIT. Are there any issues I'm overlooking?

>>59164485
I dont understand

>>59164496
like >>59164428
mentioned, its probably best to either drop out or stay in uni, I advise you to stay in uni since youre already almost done. Try find the good in what youre doing and realize what value you can bring to other things with the knowledge you will learn

>>59164523
I just said I wasn't that guy, fag!

>>59164446
I've done every core class I need to do for most all STEM courses. I'm done with general education pre-requisites. I'm practically going to school for an associates degree now. I no longer have the humanity and pre-req science/math classes required for a bachelors of science.

Well, I struggle a lot in these courses. I find it hard to study for, and I find it hard to actually find knowledge out of studying. I think I'm an average programmer for the experience that I have, but I'm terrible at doing assignments correctly and by the end of deadlines. I'm able to grasp most concepts but poorly implement them. I know these courses will continue to get harder and harder though so I'm not sure if I'm made for this stuff

>>59164519 (Me)
That's the wrong warranty clause, sorry- it references the X consortium. Ignore that detail.

>>59164501
Oy vey.

>>59164493
Which is why America pushed for TPP so hard. If it is one thing the Jews hate the most, it is people trampling over them. That is why all the media didn't want Trump to win, cause they knew he would gut the TPP. Do you think a company should have the right to sue a country because they have a "trademark" or a "copyright". The jews wanted it.

>>59164482
Well, my other option is pharmaceuticals.

>>59164331
it's certainly not
afaik it's http requests and some ssl/tls (not https but on top of http?)

>>59164551
>Do you think a company should have the right to sue a country because they have a "trademark" or a "copyright".
No, (((intellectual """"property""""))) is non-legitimate.

>>59164543
Just go into business and be done with it.

>>59164567
Oh. That is a good job. And good degree. But even more soul crushing then the average programmer.

Once you graduate it is either
1. Work as a pharmacist at a dead end career at a hospital or pharmacy till you retire
2. Sell you soul to the devil and work in pharma

>>59164493
>Isn't copyright useless for things outside your jurisdiction?
yes, that's why there are trade deals and multinational corporations whose jurisdictions effectively surpass those of national governments

>>59164598
Exactly. IP is maintained with tools like trademark, copyright and patents.

>>59164551
I've got your understanding of the world. The Jews are mastermind, they are to blame for all bad things. Ok. If Obama is nigger then all Americans are niggers.

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>>59164543
I have mixed feelings reading this sentence, I feel as if you're a competent person but you let yourself down by not doing shit during the school year and cramming/last minute doing assignments/exams, the reason maybe that you've genuinely lost your interest in programming/compsci in general, or maybe you look to far ahead in the future and youre a defeatist.

I can't say for sure because im likely projecting here, but what I can say is that no matter what path you take you're always going to face hard times, it will never be easy, if you truly *know* you are unhappy with the path you're taking then drop out and pursue something you enjoy in life whether it involves uni or not. If thats not the case then realize that you need to overcome hardships in anything to be proficient at it (that includes failing a few times if thats whats necessary)

vid related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6LovY_DdEE

>>59164618
I have no problem with actually having a boring job. As long as I'm not working an absurd amount of hours, I'm ok. My problem is the actual coursework involved in computer science. I'm not good at it.

>>59164612
I've thought about it before

>>59164576
Fuck that clusterfuck then. I'll simply add more online databases with sane APIs, like boorus.

>>59164652
No. Jews just want to consolidate their wealth and they use the laws to their advantage. You would do the same if you were in their position. It just so happens that majority of the rich people running those shitshows are jews.

>>59164625
>>59164551
fugg, how do we stop the joos?

>>59164662
Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to go into business honestly. Either that, or a trade school once/if you get your associates.

I just finished Learning Perl. What meme should I make with it now

>>59164711
make unreadable code
that's what every perl faggot does

>>59164711
>meme
make some reddit thing with it since you seem to be from there.

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I forgot to ask, what is an "Associates degree"? Im not american

>>59164598
As long as that property which was copied is not yours, in that case lawyers are not conniving Jews, they defend your rights.

>>59164662
>As long as I'm not working an absurd amount of hours, I'm ok.

Lmao. Almost all entry level jobs will have you working absurd amount of hours. That is just the truth. SpaceX one of the most prestigious companies that people want to work in work like 60-80 hours a week. It is that fucked. If you want to work normal hours, look into shift jobs or jobs that pay by the hour.

>>59164737
It's a degree you get after you complete 60 hours/2 years.

>>59164519
the warranty disclaimer doesnt even matter unless you are selling software, wtfpl covers you, in fact you dont even need a "license" just place into a file named "legal" "this software is unrestricted, free, and without warranty"

if you are selling it, you probably want to protect your rights as the owner of the product and copyright it instead of giving it away free for someone to change the name of and sell it in your place

>>59164743
>Patent trolls
>Defending your "rights"

>>59164760
Thats pretty neat actually, so its basically a tangible thing saying "I've finished half a degree"? I'm assuming you can further/continue that degree into a proper one if you decide to leave school early or whatever

>>59164700
What about Bill Gates or Apple, they are not Jews. They're good guys, who don't consolidate their wealth, aren't they?

>>59164754
That's not what I mean. I understand working absurd hours at entry level. I'm just saying that I don't want to work myself dry for the rest of my life. I don't want to have hours similar to a Japanese salaryman or something forever.

>>59164737
Technical degree. Usually a two year diploma showing skill and competency in some area of study.

>>59164736
Are you saying there are no memes on /g/?

>>59164781
It's actually sort of like you take all of the upper division courses for a major and make that your entire degree, bypassing all of the pointless humanities and social sciences that aren't really necessary for your degree.

>>59164781
Yeah, pretty much.

>>59164785
>Apple
>Not the jews
You know this is /g/ right?

>>59164772
So if you create a software and then Google will copy that, you'll say that copyright is a patent trolling and Jews, fuck that.

>>59164787
>I don't want to have hours similar to a Japanese salaryman or something forever.

Unless you start your own business and become successful this is the life you are looking at till you retire. That or you work in some highly stressful job that pays a lot like investment banking, spend your 30s working from 8am till 11pm, 6 days a week and retire by 40.

>>59164800
Are humanities and social sciences actually required for degrees in america? How many SJW classes are ACTUALLY required (no exaggeration or memes). Here in NZ we only need 2 general education courses (I chose economics and international bidness) so Im guessing we have it pretty well off here with no stupid genderpronoun required courses

What job do I get to become patrick bateman?

>>59164812
Actually that has happened in real life before. A individual invents something and copyrights it. A huge company comes along and copies it but doesn't pay the inventor his due. Inventor sues but due to copyright laws, the company is able to sink the individual in the courts with fees because hey they are a multi million dollar company and if the product is making them millions, they can afford to throw a million into court fees to sink you while you can't.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/02/24/big-businesses-are-filing-frivolous-patent-lawsuits-to-stifle-innovative-small-competitors/#3a34a5fe1c2f

https://www.wired.com/2014/01/internet-companies-care-fair-use/

It is a fact. You might cite copyright laws but if Google wants to copy your software they will have the lawyers, fees and money to fucking sink you in court.

>>59164838
In Alberta we had General Liberal Education Requirements, which required several non STEM courses of various levels.

However, that included histories classes, civil infrastructure planning, media production related courses, etc. Many things that were objectively useful.

Radfem stuff also counted but my point is that you could still spend time learning useful things even if they had to be unrelated to maths and comp sci.

>>59164838
Here are the general education requirements at my uni

http://www.bulletin.uga.edu/GenEdCoreBulletin.aspx

>>59164800
No, an associate's is commonly gen-ed and intro to intermediate division courses for a given major. It's often referred to as the first two years of a 4-year college/university. One benefit of NY is that we have the SUNY system which means you can hop around from college to college because despite the variations in classes from college to college, there are agreed-upon equivalencies for most classes. The state had to tighten it up so you have to graduate from a community college before transferring around, but you can still transfer out from a CC to a SUNY school and get the benefits.

>>59164838
>Are humanities and social sciences actually required for degrees in america?
Yes, but not many for STEM undergrad.
>SJW classes
If you go to a non-meme school (aka anything not UC Berkley, NYU, anything religiously affiliated like a Christian college in the south or Yeshiva University here in NY, etc), MAYBE one if your college ended up hiring someone who seemed normal at first but turned out to be a crackpot they can't get rid of yet. Huge maybe. Libarts at non-meme schools end up taking at most two or three over 4 years, and these are generally given as much respect as you'd assume (if you need it spelled out for you, zero). Despite what you read on 4chan, SocJus/RadFem garbage exists but is given nowhere NEAR as much attention as the media and 4chan want you to believe.

There's always gonna be a few (5-10) who end up drinking the kool-aid and making a ruckus somewhere along the line, but it ends quickly.

>>59164914
>>59164933
Do you have to pay for these classes?

Also wtf is 3-4 hours, does that just mean one class on your schedule? Jesus christ thats a lot of general education, at least you gon' get educated about tyrones hard struggle and shieeet

>>59164966
thats pretty good to hear

>>59164899
I would prefer to get at least some minimal understanding about copyrights and the open source licenses before I'll start copyright my files for github.

I don't think that every complicated thing that requires some efforts to understand is a scary Jew invention to deceive goyim.

>>59164760
>60 hours/2 years
what?

>>59165032
>I don't think that every complicated thing that requires some efforts to understand is a scary Jew invention to deceive goyim.

See this is the part where you are wrong. Copyright was a good thing, till the jews came along and perverted it to a what it is.

>>59164899
Thats literally whats happening to h3h3 productions on youtube right now on a lesser scale

God damn, when did google become so fucking evil, why the fuck can't jews harmonize with the rest of humanity, WHY THE FUCK ARE JEWS SO EVIL

>>59165043
What he probably means is 60 credit hours or 2 years, whichever comes first. My community college had 64 credit hours or 2 years.

>>59165067
DMCA is another tool of Jew.
The fact that companies can send DMCA that hold no water to individuals is fucking insane. The only reason why these hold up is because the only one troubled by DMCA claims is the individual, companies can and will spend 5000 to prove a point while individuals can't.

>>59165083
Can you explain to me what the difference between a community college, college, and university is in america? Im not american so I keep hearing this shit but I don't get what anyone is talking about

>>59164899
That's why this exists:
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/overview/azure-ip-advantage/

>>59165097
http://www.educationcorner.com/community-college-vs-university.html

University is what the rest of the world calls college.

>>59163936
>he's into tech
>he's not a leftist
That's like being a doctor and a Jehova's Witness at the same time.

>>59165094
So basically you cant win against the jews? Im getting too many truth bombs tonight by /g/ I can't take it, how the fuck do you even in make it irl with all the jews stacked up against you

>>59165111
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a jew behind this, I bet there is trickery involved in this

>>59165111
The only way to fight the Jews is with other Jews. Fact.

Thoughts on code.mil? Not sure what to make of this...

>#Welcome to Code.mil - an experiment in open source at the Department of Defense!
>The U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) faces unique challenges in open sourcing its code. Unlike most software projects, code written by U.S. Federal government employees typically doesn’t have copyright protections under U.S. and some international laws. This can make it hard to attach an open source license to our code, and our team here at Defense Digital Service wants to find a solution.

>So, we’re trying something a little different.

[. . .]

>##Connect with us.
>Meet with developers across the DoD who have been tasked with America’s highest priority missions and help build upon their work. We believe that software created by the government should be shared with the public, and we want to collaborate with civic minded peers to make this happen.

>##Make us better.
>We’ve drafted [`CONTRIBUTING.md`](/Proposal/CONTRIBUTING.md) so the DoD can participate in communities that use widely adopted licenses, even where we may not have copyright. This lets us harness the depth and breadth of talent in the open source and free software communities to improve our software and make our code available for public use.

>**We want your help to make the open source strategy.** We encourage everybody to [open an issue](https://github.com/deptofdefense/code.mil/issues/new) (or a pull request!) with your suggestions before we finalize [`CONTRIBUTING.md`](/Proposal/CONTRIBUTING.md) by the end of March and open source our projects!

>>59165097
>community college
Local, low-cost higher education. Typically vocational skills, 2 year degrees, and some 4-year degrees

>University
Typically 4-year undergrad bachelor's degrees, with graduate programs for Master's and Doctorate's for ~6-8 year programs.

>>59165134
>So basically you cant win against the jews?
You can't win against money. It just happens that Jews have the most money. I mean if you switch Google with say Samsung, they are still going to fucking cripple you. It just happens that large companies are surprisingly run by a lot of jewish people.

>>59165124
If what I read was true, why the fuck would anyone go to """"university"""" in the states?

>>59165184
see
>>59165152

>>59165155
Theres got to be a point where people say fuck it this is enough, because right now it seems to me that intellectual property laws and the justice system are absolutely fucking retarded

>>59165097
Community College gives students an Associate's degree, which is half of a normal 4-year degree program. What happens at a CC is a student will get the college experience on the cheap but will generally be able to stay close to home. Students can either transfer out to a 4-year institution or graduate with an Associates. Most of the time, the plan for students going to a CC is to complete their gen ed courses and lower-division courses at a community college on the cheap and finish at a 4 year institution. That's what I and a bunch of my classmates did. You get more Tyrones there but the professors give more of a shit about you if you flex hard academically.

For College/University:
https://blog.udemy.com/college-vs-university/
tl;dr - US colleges are more focused on a specific track, US universities are more widespread in subject coverage. Everything else is pretty typical to the rest of the world.

>>59165184
They were fed baby boomer lies.
>Go to college
>Get a loan for college
>Get a good degree
>Yada yada yada

Guess who profits the most from those insane college tuition fees. The (((banks))).

Reposting from previous thread.

Okay, I have a followup question to my previous ideas about sorting algorhitms in C# console.

How would you actually draw them to the console? I'm thinking bars, looking through the array, assigning the biggest bar to the biggest number, with each lower number representing a bar one step lower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECg [Embed]

Video related is what I want to do in console, only if you get an array of integers, lets say 3,7,20; you would only get three bars of height 1,2 and 3.

Like an anon suggested, horizontal bars would be easier, but how would I make them increment in length by 1? Should I find the value of the highest element in the array first, then make it go by length of the array and increment by -1?

>>59165201
1.It doesn't affect enough people to make it a concern
2.The rich are invested in making themselves richer
3.People like us have more immediate stuff to be concerned about

>>59165219
The roulette game would way easier to implement, and fun.

This sorting algorithm thing is autistic, you've also got to make sure you're using an in-place algorithm which for some algorithms can be a huge pain in the asshole.

Tldr if youre using a console its going to turn out like ass because youre so limited to the number of pixels you have in a tiny console screen.

>>59165219
SDL

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>>59165230

>>59165268
Forgot to mention
>but how would I make them increment in length by 1?

All you do is map the smallest elements to the smallest numbers, so before you do the algorithm loop through the list and record how many of each element there is, dont see the big problem in this

>>59165282
Oh and if you are working in a programming job, do remember to NEVER bring your laptop to work. NEVER release any project while you are working there. Some contracts are so fucked that your projects might be considered company property due to IP laws.

>spend all day solving a project euler problem
>write huge program
>pajeet does it 10 lines

I'm not gonna make it.

>>59165351
Git gud at mathematics.

Fuck sakes guys yesterday I layed down a chocolate log and I think I squeezed too hard and my ass ripped and there was quite a bit of blood, just layed another log 30 seconds ago and there was still a bit of blood from my freshly torn asshole. For some reason I feel fucking depressed as shit when I see blood in the toilet bowl. Anyone know how to heal this bitch real fast?

>>59165351
Sides, what problem was it? I did the first 5 problems like a month ago and got bored.

>>59165133

This, don't people notice the contradiction between being a tech-geek and thinking like a goddamn fascist?

This is for everyone, here goes.

How do you people have the patience and ability to work on large projects, with multiple facets like a c++ (or any language) program using multiple libraries, dealing with multiple classes, headers etc. Basically what I'm saying is, my patience runs pretty thin the larger a project gets, and I often lose the motivation to finish what I was doing, it's an ADD sort of feel. It feels absolutely inextricable and exhausting to me, I have a lot of ideas (probably all shit) but once I get to the stage of actually developing them they come out half-baked. Does anyone else have any experience with this? How do you deal with it? Am I just a brainlet?

>>59165441
I know that feel, whenever I want to do a project I want to make sure it can be done within the time frame of my fucks given (within 2 days).

/adhd-add-autism/ crew here.

>Large scale project
Its fucking trash desu, the whole point of a large scale project is that it its supposed to be very cutting edge and neat, which is usually done in the environment of a dev group

>>59165414
Because there isn't a contradiction.

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How do I stop googling snippets of code and start programming myself?

>>59165441
>Am I just a brainlet?
Yeah. You are.

>>59165587
how long do you work as a programmer?

>>59165133
>>59165414
>>>/r/ibbit

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>>59165587
Programming is a meme. Nowadays programming is just gluing shit libraries together and praying it werks

>>59165323
My current job is like this, though only applied to things I produce that could be used to compete with my employer.

So unless I write the next killer insurance app I think I'm probably safe.

>>59165587
What language do you use

>>59165414
>>59165626
>>59165629
nice reddit posts.

>>59165645
But its true, what can you do nowadays without you integrating your meme.sln with some fuckwad libraries.

Programming = duct tape and prayers4jesus

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>59165645

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>>59165626

>>/wdg/

>>59165615
3 years.
>>59165630
Python, Go.

>>59165536
>>59165620
>>59165645
>>>/pol/

>>59165723
>complaining about /pol/
You just confirmed my suspicion that you along with most of this thread are straight from reddit. I wasn't even stating a /pol/ opinion, you have to go back.

>>59165718
I think you are fine at this point.
Work more, learn everything, etc.

>>59165723
OUT OUT OUT!!

>>59165732
You sound frustrated, why don't you do us all a favour and start using a tripcode so we can all ignore you, okay sweetheart? ;)

No comments on >>59165151 yet, lol. I'm honestly surprised. I would have thought that the Adafags would pour out of the woodwork looking to contribute.

>>59165743

Why? This wouldn't happen to be your SAFE SPACE, would it dear? ;^)

>>59165744
>that mongrel version of English
That explains everything. I should have noticed earlier.

>>59165744
>>59165749
S A V A G E
A
V
A
G
E

>>59165151
>>59165745
>Open source software
>Department of defense
Fucking commies man

>>59165762
You say "mongrel" as if it was a bad thing, newfriend.

>>59165776
Wow, this girl has some serious self-esteem issues.

>>59165790
I'm not the one trying to look "tough" in front of my friends, honey. Keep deluding yourself =*

>>59165587
Learn D. It's a recent language so there aren't many snippets of code to copy from lying around anyway.

>>59165826
Not him but already got it installed but forgot to learn it properly, how good is the documents? I've only read through that 20 click slideshow thing about how basic objects werk and shit

>>59165807
That's alright, dude. I didn't insult you or anything.

>>59165847
>dude

>>59165843
The reference is pretty rich and the tutorials are okay. Install dub, it makes setting up everything so much easier. If you wanna do some web shit, might wanna try vibe.d:
http://vibed.org/blog/posts/a-scalable-chat-room-service-in-d

For GUI apps, I recommend dlangui:
https://github.com/buggins/dlangui/wiki/Getting-Started

Have fun!

>>59165853
Is that a question?

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>>59165879
>it's another episode of "he's such a newfag he doesn't even know what meme arrows are"

>>59165889
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

>>59165961
I get the feeling your life must have been very hard so I wont argue with you.

>>59165268
>>59165308
Well, of course it's easier, but if I'm to have a menu, I need something more, since it's graded.
Quick question, how would you go with making some accounts in console without a database but with a txt file?
Can it be done? I would like to have several accounts or users to play the roulette, each one would have a different username and password, and each would have different starting money and limit.

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I don't think I'm cut out for programming. I've been learning Python for about a month now. The book I'm using at the end of every chapter there's 10-20 exercises. I'm only able to do about 2 or so of the exercises without googling or looking back through the chapter. If I end up googling often I'll get the full solution so it's just a matter of copying it. Or copying stuff until I find something that works.

A lot of these exercises I don't even know where to begin to solve them. It was fun and games when I was doing basic stuff like printing and basic syntax. But now I'm like getting real problems that are convoluted and require me to come up with formulas and algorithms. And I'm scared. It's not fun anymore. I spent 8 hours stuck on a few exercises on the last chapter.

>>59165985
Cheer up. I'm sure tomorrow will be a better day.

>>59166012
>I've been learning Python
Bad choice. Learn some other language and just do stuff you like instead of exercises.

>>59166012
Dumb animuposter.

>>59166037
How can I do stuff I like that's relevant to what I learned in a chapter?

>>59166059
Why does it have to be relevant to the chapter? Or are you just that naive and think everything in the world should conform to the order you learn things in?

>>59165323
I heard you can get out of this if you keep a log of the hours you worked on the project to prove you didn't make it during company hours.

>>59166059
Maybe you should do it the other way around. Start by reading the exercises, find one that you think "there is no way I can do this, but it would be cool to do" and then read the chapter.
Maybe you start with the problem and get all the basic stuff ready and then read some more.
Now you have context and you are looking for solutions while you read.

>>59166122
I have never heard a more retarded suggestion in my life.

>>59166000
Sure it can be done, I'm working on a password manager that can store many users personal passwords and such (family friendly usage)

What you basically do is write the details of the user to a text file and save their data there, then you do a system call to loop through all files in the current directory and filter for .txt files then name those players in the console as their names (bob, john etc).

>>59166797
As for the password access, there are a billions of ways you could do this, the most simple but contrived example would be having their password stored in the same textfile on the first line lets say, then if the password they enter in the console is the same as the first line in the txtfile then you let them login.

I don't think you'd be marked down because the password is in plain sight, else you're just entering encryption territories, heck just to be safe encrypt it in base64 or something simple so it makes you look competent

>>59166012
What type of problems are these? I main python so I can help >inb4 I cant end up helping kek

Guys, is C, C++ and derivatives essential to every programer worth his pay?

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webassembly/2017Feb/0002.html

>>59166797
Do you just store it in a plain .txt file, unencrypted? I know it doesn't matter if it's for home use, but still.

Also, how do you associate each name to each password and details? Separate files?

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>>59166875
Here's some of them. I figured all of these out but they weren't easy for me.

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>>59163942
Probably still better than golang, when it comes to system programming.

>>59163951
>Existing, unlike Jai
With only one dev to back it up that's a moot point.

>>59166797
That's one of the dumbest ways you can do that, but whatever.

>>59165876
>dlangui
Can it into non-polling events, though? I'm worried, because it uses SDL...

>>59166984
For the thing im working on? No definitely not, for you base64 should be more than enough.

Every person should have their own .txt file with their settings, you could do it in 1 file if you want but thats not very good from an organizing perspective

>>59167036
whats better? I don't want it bound to my machine, hence the textfile where I can just put the textfile on the usb, decode the details somewhere else, or even a phone. I was aiming for transportability.

>>59167006
Why are you showing me the ones you have completed rather than the ones you find hard... In any case you may be struggling because you're not familiar with pythons powerful standard library, there are so many insanely powerful inbuilt functions that make any sort of string manipulation easy as cake.

What exactly are you finding difficult in the problems, coming up with a solution and logically/procedurally thinking through it or the implementation?

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>>59167016

>>59163951
wrong number, meant >>59164046

That's it for Haskell, I'm going with Scheme. I feel like Scheme is more practical to work with.
Is SICP and Gambit a good start?

>>59167154
I made one too. It's dumb because why are you using multiple files? Use the program to order and filter for you. That's what it's for. Also at least have them encoded so that not every retard can read them if they find your drive on the ground.

>>59167135
Don't worry, Linux is only a tiny irrelevant share of the entire market. Most people will use your app on platforms where SDL is not necessary.

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>be programming in android because I'm a fucking moron
>need to set an internal alarm to run a function later
>find "Alarm Manager", tailored made for this goal
>except 11 months after its creation google released the Kitkat skd and fucked it
>now it's "not exact" but they have no replacement
>find out that I can use a method to make it exact
>except it doesn't work
>method literally called "set exact" doesn't actually make it exact
>function calls could be delayed anywhere from miliseconds to seconds to hours
>also if the user reset the phone all saved alarms get wiped because reasons
>also phone might go randomly back to sleep before calling the function
>reasons are up to chaos theory
>having to search online through the bowels of stack overflow to see how I can hold the motherboard's sleep signal

WHO THE FUCK DID THEY PUT IN CHARGE OF ANDROID DEVELOPMENT? IS IT LITERALLY FUCKING SATAN?

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>>59167225
Why stop halfway? Go for CL instead of unnecessary minimalism and halfassed implementations.

>>59167260
>It's dumb because why are you using multiple files?
Because a household can have more than one user?

> Also at least have them encoded so that not every retard can read them if they find your drive on the ground.
Obviously...

>>59167263
>he thinks SDL is only used at linux

>>59166955
>C
Probably.
>C++
Fuck no.

>>59167286
What's the difference between CL and Scheme?

>>59167321
Dlangui can use native Win32 on Windows and work is well in progress to support native Cocoa on Mac.

>>59167335
CL is the successor. Minimalismfags sometimes pretend it's not.

>>59167280
android hasn't had exact alarms since kitkat which was in 2013

leave while you can

>>59167399
We just don't know if it's for input or rendering.

>>59167402
K, I'll give CL a try then. Any suggestions for a good book?
Are you the Australian Chinese that hides in Switzerland because you made fun of the CCP?

>>59167296
I forgot that websites have an individual databases for each user...

Then why specify .txt if it's "obvious"

>>59167489
>K, I'll give CL a try then. Any suggestions for a good book?
Nope, no idea, sorry.
>Are you the Australian Chinese that hides in Switzerland because you made fun of the CCP?
No. Story?

>>59167402
How is that an argument?

>>59167503
Wtf are you talking about?

Are you saying because my passwords are stored in a .txt file its somehow easy to crack or something?

gAAAAABYtbDqEQOYMaUp2dT4zewAS3C9V-ef73qWV5k9CQKpHAzyeiaTX60TXujVqlfvElquOtobBc3eCVNH3wirbSB035uwmJ5yVCqZdqScDIlilmHQw8A=

Please do tell me what the message behind that string of characters decodes to

>>59167559
You don't need a txt file if you're encoding, is the point

>>59167538
You mean, pro CL?
a. minimalismfags are idealists and therefore always wrong
b. When creating programming languages, hindsight is 90%. CL was created almost ten years after Scheme and newer Scheme standards didn't improve things that much.

>>59167615
Like I said, I want the contents of my data to be portable hence the text file. Why would I want my valuable information statically bound to 1 machine which could die any moment from a hdd crash or be bashed by a hammer?

The data is mobile and are useless without me.

>>59167538
>>59167627
For example, it took them until 2013 to standardize an import statement.

>>59167698
Any other file is just as mobile

>>59167535
>Nope, no idea, sorry.
This looks quite good http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/
>No. Story?
Some anon is writing a book on Lisp (cannot recall if it's Scheme or CL). I asked him to send me the draft, but he suggested to meet in person. He currently resides in Switzerland because the International Criminal Court doesn't go there. He's originally from Australia, but the way he told it doesn't give me the impression that he was also born there.

>>59167732
>He currently resides in Switzerland because the International Criminal Court doesn't go there.
weird

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>>59167829
I thought so too. Too bad he didn't want to come to The Netherlands so we could meet up.

>>59163844
Will someone explain C++17's new optional operator to me? I'm just learning programming and I see people hyped for it but I don't understand why.

>>59167280
that's what you get when everyone keeps complaining about battery drain while phone is inactive

>>59167732
>He's originally from Australia, but the way he told it doesn't give me the impression that he was also born there.
Let's say I know him. He isn't a subhuman as you suggested in an earlier post.

>>59167225

Most guys go from LISP to HAskell, not the other way arround.
Just saying.

Also checkout Clojure.


>>59167402

>CL is the successor. Minimalismfags sometimes pretend it's not.

I just love how CL guys claim that Scheme is "old and idealistic" while being so butthurt about Clojure - which in fact deprecates CL in every single way: cleaner syntax, more/better libraries, better package manager, faster execution speed...

>>59168059
good post, real subtle

>>59167280
It's caused by doze mode, only the user can allow an app to be exempt.

>>59168059
>Clojure
What are the downsides compared to both Scheme and CL?

>>59168037
>He isn't a subhuman as you suggested in an earlier post.
>subhuman
What do you mean? I don't consider Chinese subhuman.

>>59168059
>I just love how CL guys claim that Scheme is "old and idealistic" while being so butthurt about Clojure - which in fact deprecates CL in every single way: cleaner syntax, more/better libraries, better package manager, faster execution speed...
I would almost believe you, but it reality it seems you are lying about the last part. Even stout Clojurefags told me it's typically slow for a JVM language.
And the fact that its community is a mixture of hipster webdevs and a handful of hipster indie devs raises concerns about the ecosystem.

>>59168172
It doesn't have a native compiler.

>>59168180
Well, I do. Especially when there was no information given that could lead me to believe that "Chinese" here excludes mainlanders.

>>59168059
>Also checkout Clojure.
As a full time Java dev, I try to steer away from the ecosystem.

>>59163844
It is funny because that's a female cattle specimen. It is literally interracial lesbian sex.

>>59168246
I agree that Taiwanese are on a different level, but that doesn't make mainland Chinese subhuman. The city generation mainlanders are quite OK.

>>59168059
Can I use it if I despise Java? Is there anything at all from Java in it aside from the JVM, which I don't mind that much?

>>59168246
Are you a nippon or did you read the "don't learn chinese" post?

>Can't use scanf() for reading in strings because newline character fucks shit up
>Can't use gets() because of risk of buffer overflow
>fflush(stdin) only works on Windows
>Have to resort to fgets() which is literally only supposed to be used on files yet still reads in newline character

Why is C fucked?

>>59168370
I didn't say they were genetically subhuman, they just lost their humanity after a certain incident. I don't think it's possible to recover at this point though (for most of them), so that's just how it is.
>>59168379
No, my ancestors were from Western Europe, but I don't like to talk about it.

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>>59168499
C is obsolete garbage, don't use it for any new code and actively replace deprecated C code with code written in a more modern language.

>>59168506
>I didn't say they were genetically subhuman, they just lost their humanity after a certain incident. I don't think it's possible to recover at this point though (for most of them), so that's just how it is.
I'm no China expert, but I do believe that the Chinese Revolution misshaped the population. They lost their pride in being who they are, that's something the Taiwanese still have.

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>>59168499
>Can't use scanf() for reading in strings because newline character fucks shit up
Wrong.
>Can't use gets() because of risk of buffer overflow
Wrong.
>fflush(stdin) only works on Windows
Wrong.
>Have to resort to fgets() which is literally only supposed to be used on files yet still reads in newline character
Correct.

>>59168499

>Can't use scanf() for reading in strings because newline character fucks shit up
Honestly, scanf is a hack.

>Can't use gets() because of risk of buffer overflow
gets_s

>fflush(stdin) only works on Windows
fflush on an input stream is undefined behavior. Its not C's fault that you are trying to use a function outside of its intended use.

>Have to resort to fgets() which is literally only supposed to be used on files yet still reads in newline character
stdin is a file, so this is a moot point.

has anyone here done backed with Java?
I want to try but I can't find any good resources or learning materials whatsoever.

I already am good with Java 8 and frontend clientside stuff.

>>59168586

>>Can't use gets() because of risk of buffer overflow
>Wrong.
That point is fairly spot on. You should not use the gets() function for any reason.

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How do you implement event driven programming without spawning threads consisting of polling loops with some mutexes to ensure blocking I/O?

>>59168822
wrote one backend with sparkjava the microframework.
It supports some templating engines but I generated the html with html2java or something like that, problem was that I had to recompile every time I wanted to change the html.

But the javaspark is very easy to get working, run it trough nginx tunnel.

Not sure about learing material, I looked at the official document and some example code and I already know jdbc for database stuff so making the backend wasn't hard.

>>59168878

You use asynchronous I/O. You never poll the OS. The OS alerts you when it's finished an operation, and executes a callback.

>>59168893
Alright senpai but I just don't know at all how to start in practice.

I download what? I set up a project how exactly? I create classes that do what?
This shit is like chineese to me

>>59168928
>>59168878
An assumption that SDL violates for muh gaymen and joystick support, so make sure to use GLFW for non-game GUIs instead.

Currently learning Java and Assembly (mfw) in school.

Java class is awful. We aren't being taught so that we will understand and use the language, but rather so that we can pass tests and then say "fuck it we know java lul". Half my class is mentally fucking challenged and don't understand what methods and objects are, pretty sure half of them don't even know how to use variables that aren't integers or floats/doubles work. I always try and advance on my own but honestly I have no motivation to do it considering I'm never gonna use it for a project at school & it'll probably take months before we get to those parts.


Assembly is a joke, we're only studying it for one year so that we can make a very small project (Around 200 lines of code to pass). I think it's kind of stupid considering no one is ever going to use the language, but hey it's at least kind of fun trying to program snake in it (About half way there right now).

Next year we'll start python as a replacement for assembly, not sure if I should be excited but hey better start more useful language late than never.

>>59168831
>>59168793
Reminder that Pelles is the only decent C compiler out there.

>>59169006
>How to use variables that aren't integers or floats/doubles work.

Woops kinda mixed 2 sentences into one

>>59169006
>Assembly is a joke
You are a joke.

>>59169046
Didn't mean it in a bad way. Just the fact that we're wasting an entire year of potentially advancing in a different more useful and modern language makes me think my school is memeing us hardcore.

>>59168942
>already good with java8
Apparently you are not?

>I download what?
You download maven or some other java package manager.
The libaries you need usually have some kind of easily pastable line for your preferred dependency manager, alternatively you find the libraries you want and and compile them yourself.

The fun thing with javaspark was it had inbuild server that you could just run.
http://sparkjava.com/

>>59168962
player input is pretty important, I think I can live with that

>>59169107
In depth knowledge of assembly is invaluable.
Learning Python and Java is a waste of time.

>>59169107
>memeing us hardcore.
Fuck off back to your shitty subreddit.

>>59169107
>school
>advancing
>especially in j*va and p*thon
nice one.

>>59169170
In depth knowledge of Python and Java is invaluable.
Learning assembly is a waste of time.

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>>59169208
Depends on what you're doing, webdev.

>>59169170
>>59169208

Gonna go with the guy who is in favor of the newer languages

>>59169197
indeed.

>>59169245
explain this heathen act

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Employed Haskell programmer reporting in

>>59169287
I'm writing a faster Hydrus.

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>>59169302
How does it feel to be unemployed?

>>59169247
I develop ERP software. Never needed assembly. Stay buttmad.

>>59169247
>implying I'm not doing webdev in assembly

Quick, teach me C++!

>>59169373
It's basically C, but handles more shit for you.

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>>59169395

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>>59169313
kek

>>59169313
Wew

>tfw /sci/ was right about CS being a low-tier degree
>should have done math and taken CS-courses on the side
>probably going to switch after next semester.

>>59169146
>player input
>in normal software
Spotted the emacs user.

Hey /dpt/. I'm hoping someone could help me with this. I'm looking for a language that can run in the windows console, has C like syntax and is relatively lightweight. Something that you could use to make small, throwaway scripts for fun.
I am currently using C# but it feels a bit bloated relative to the complexity of the programs i'm making.