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Every day until you stop memeing about Windows 10 telemetry.

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Every day until you stop memeing about Windows 10 telemetry.

https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/manage/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services
https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/manage/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization
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Poo2loo
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All this "spying" is literally a good thing. /g/ is just mad because it analyzes your photos for child pornography and /g/ is full of pedos.
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>>59151247

>there shouldn't be a problem if you have nothing to hide
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Every day until you get your brown ass out of /g/
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>>59151091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJgY2VSct0
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>>59151247
I have multiple legally obtained photos of naked minors of my computer as part of my educational course.

Should I be persecuted by Currysoft as well?
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>>59151091
>Operating system will reset any settings it wants during updates
>Operating system will *override the hosts file* to connect to Microshaft
>Can ONLY get the version of Windows where you can even try to turn these settings off by pirating it (fucking kek)
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>>59151366
>>Operating system will reset any settings it wants during updates
Literally happened only once by mistake.
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>>59151350
yes
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>>59151518
Good goy
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The Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display doesn't have this problem.
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>(((Mistake)))
The only mistake was proving they could it before having a way to exploit it for profit
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>>59151247
>because it analyzes your photos for child pornography
That only applies to onedrive.
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>>59151366
>>Operating system will *override the hosts file* to connect to Microshaft
hosts file isn't needed for direct IP connections, only for domain resolution requests.
And it can be bypassed by many things in the OS already, like nslookup.

You have to realize that using the hosts file as a blocking mechanism was never its intended purpose. That's what firewalls are for.
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>>59151091
P᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ I᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ T᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ L
O᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ N᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎H᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ O
O᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ E᠎ ᠎ ᠎ ᠎ O

Every day until you stop shitting in the street
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>>59152356
I actually see nothing wrong with this because for the majority of users this will be completely fine and it will reduce the number of PCs spreading malware.
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>>59152356
>nothing to do with telemetry
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>>59152356

You can disable updates idiot.
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>>59153731
You've got to be false-flagging.
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>>59153731
We are talking about the home version.
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This is microsoft's strategy:
- make tons of news which only show "positive" aspects of a new feature, also highlight a few times that it's optional/temporary in the beta
Most users buy it and think it's ok or they plan to just disable it
- a few months later, days before the introduction of said feature, make a small announcement where Microsoft states that it's going to be forced after all. No major news site will write an article about it.
- Some users realize that the "feature" does not work as expected, but are shown the small announcement and accept yet another inconvenience. Most users don't care since they are barely able to understand how their computer even works.

Examples where microsoft has already played this strategy:
- Telemetry
- Forced updates

next up:
- "Deprecation" of Win32 software
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>>59152356
Disabled by default, shit for brains.
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>>59153763
>Examples where microsoft has already played this strategy:
>- Telemetry
>- Forced updates

You didn't even read the titles of the links in OP.
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>>59153783
>trusting microsoft after this
How can you be so naive
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>>59153797
They are not going to remove functionality used by enterprise users, it's their biggest source of revenue.
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>>59153826
And the billions of home users should get fucked?
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>>59153850
Honestly, having billions of home users running the microsoft botnet is probably a lot better than billions of home users running a botnet that's used for spam and dos attacks.
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>>59151091

Obligatory
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>>59152137

>being this naive

You do know all your files are hashed either by indexing or the malware scanner and then sent to MS? This is how MS knows you have counterfeit software installed and can remove it.
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Even if you disable everything you can windows 10 still indexes all your files and sends that back to Microsoft too. A lot of people don't care about privacy and Windows 10 is a great operating system for them but for anyone who cares it is garbage.
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>>59153889
Obligatory reply explaining that the video is fake.
>sending screenshots over udp
>decrypting a file that's supposedly encrypted with rsa
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>>59153957
Obligatory reply to reply explaining that the video is not fake.

Go ask the guy himself on Twitter. The file that is decrypted is only the key. It points towards some other data stream with the images. Pic related.
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t. Microsoft
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>>59153938
>>59153942
>This is how MS knows you have counterfeit software installed and can remove it.
That's from the xbox eula. Nothing to do with Windows.

>You do know all your files are hashed either by indexing or the malware scanner and then sent to MS
>Even if you disable everything you can windows 10 still indexes all your files and sends that back to Microsoft too.
There's a setting that disables sharing of detected malware samples with microsoft.
The indexing thing is simply not true. Do share if you have any proof saying otherwise.
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I can't prove anything because it would give away my identity which would get me into A LOT of trouble. But I work in a certain three letter agency, and Microsoft has helped us catch A LOT of Islamic would be terrorists.
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>>59154003
>exported file is 6KB
>produces two png images which mostly consist of a background that has a shitton of gradients and are basically impossible to compress with png

>some other data stream that was never shown is magically involved
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>>59154199

Go ask the guy on Twitter he will explain it to you. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's fake.
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>>59154217
I don't need to understand it. It's obvious bullshit.
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>>59154227
>I don't need to understand it

LOL.

Spoken like a true closed-minded retard. Here, it's even in Microsoft's own privacy statement you dumbass.

https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/preview-privacy-statement#section_1
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>>59151247
Here's your reply you subhuman nigger shill
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>>59154003
Obligatory disclosure that you're choosing to believe the alternative facts of some kiddo living in an Eastern Bloc shithole, who makes a hobby out of stalking the community manager for the Windows Insider Program on Twitter.
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>>59154254
>Thank you for choosing to participate in a pre-release program for our next version of Windows!
That applies to the insider builds only.

There's definitely additional telemetry in those builds but that still doesn't explain how a 6kb file produces two full size png screenshots.
He's also using a program called "RSA Decryptor v.1.9.2". That was one hell of a development cycle if he reached version fucking 1.9.2.
He's passing a "type" argument that says "SS". Probably supposed to mean screenshot. As if that fucking matters to a program that's simply decrypting an rsa stream.
And then it spits out a .bin file even though it was already told that it's supposed a screenshot.

It's so much fucking bullshit that I don't understand how anyone could believe it.
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>>59151350
Pete Townsend pls.
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>>59153889
in this case the testing version is used, which is officially stated to have all manner of spying techniques, including screenshoting of your workspace
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any "criticism" of windows is null and void anyway because one word:
video games
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>>59154254

Not to make you worry or anything but I asked on /g/ three times already about that, if somebody would like to check it. One guy had especially funny time when he left his PC running for 12h and didnt spot anything this Russian guy was showing.

The sole fact of sending such files over udp was enough to make him laugh, not to mention that this video shows Preview version.
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>>59154310
>to believe the alternative facts

Wrong CNN. Btw, haha, Trump won.


>>59154347
>That applies to the insider builds only

No shit that's why I posted it. Now check the webm, bottom right corner.

Go ask the guy on Twitter. He'll explain it to make up for your lack of understanding.

>>59154373
Yeah that's why I posted the Privacy Statement for the insider preview >>59154254
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>>59152356
I think you can force disable updates with Ultimate Windows Tweaker
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>>59154413
If the update was already installed, you wont be able to run that. And normies don't know about it
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>>59154430
I am about to be forced to upgrade to Kaby Lake and Windows 10 because my dumb computer keeps crashing. I plan on using UWT and Blackbird. What else do I need?
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>>59154453
You need Win10 LTSB 2016, for starters
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>>59154407
>Go ask the guy on Twitter. He'll explain it to make up for your lack of understanding.
Let me list all the reasons why this is bullshit again, maybe you'll figure it out

>sending screenshots over udp
>sending the key with the encrypted data
>producing two screenshots from a 6kb file
>rsa decryptor v1.9.2
>renaming files for the grand finale
>assumption that wzor somehow figured out that the stream is an rsa key concatenated with the actual data with 0FAE69 inbetween.
>you are claiming that there's some other data outside the 6kb file but wzor claims that it's all in that single stream which brings us back to the 6kb thing
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>>59151091
configuring the botnet spyware shit for over minutes and hours to not fully disable it...
yadaaaaaa
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>>59154479

Go ask the guy on Twitter. He'll explain it to make up for your lack of understanding.
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>>59154413

>I think you can force disable updates with Ultimate Windows Tweaker

Why not with Group Policy? Or leaving GP intact, by adding value to registry? MS even tells you how.

Why people want t use third aprty software for everything?
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>>59151298
At least if you live in a democratic country and not in ex-sovietistan.
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>>59154511

Somebody poke the reset button for this guy, I think he froze.
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>>59154536
>Or leaving GP intact, by adding value to registry?
GP is just a nice frontend for modifying the registry.
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>>59154536
There's no Group policy editor on win10 home
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>>59154469
That version sounds amazing. But it looks like a hassle to get into.
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>>59154550

Last time I checked, they can still modify the registry.

>>59154547

Actually, it takes priority now. If GP is left as "not configured", the registry changes will take place. If GP is configured, registry values will be ignored. MS points that out.
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>>59154583
>Last time I checked, they can still modify the registry.
Good thing Windows cloud won't allow that in the future
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>>59154565

Education can be modified for same results. Normal Enterprise too, if you know how. If you dont, MS will tell you, all you need is to check their Technet.
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>>59154544
Somebody take this retard back to his special ed. class. I think he's lost.
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>>59154610

Good thing that you wont have to use Windows Cloud.
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>>59154630
If most developers would switch to the windows store this would happen: less software would be compatible with windows 7 or any version without the store
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>>59154621

Oh, look, he stopped repeating the same mantra! Thats some progress.

Would you like a hug, while we are at it? Come on, gets closer to monitor and receive that hug I just send you, you got too mad over those things and that will surely help you.
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>needing to actually configure your operating system

too complicated for linuxcucks, they want it to just werk out of the box.
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>>59154658

>If most developers would switch to the windows store this would happen

Just like they did so far, right?

Windows Phone is mostly forgotten now and Store was there since Windows 8 and never got popular. Hell, every try from MS side to push it too hard was met with negative reaction from everyone around.

They might do stupid things from time to time, but they are not THAT stupid.
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>>59154673

He's not me. You really need to step out of your box and ask the guy on Twitter to expand you mind, man.
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>>59154407
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>>59154702
>They might do stupid things from time to time, but they are not THAT stupid.
I wouldn't be so sure of that
They are literally selling an eternal beta version of windows right now, which is also extremely stupid
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>>59154710
He >>59154673 is not me >>59154479 >>59154347
Why don't you do that for me and report back?
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>>59154734

After you follow >>59154511 's and >>59154710 's advice and go ask the guy. Just do it man. You'll expand your understanding and become a little less ignorant in the interim. Ladies first and all.
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>>59154717
>i'll flash a montage of screenshots of some guy's twitter which probably has thousands of posts but cherry pic the most unrelated shit just to have no point what-so-ever

Uhm, yes. And? Does that mean the dude has no understanding of whatever it is you don't understand? It's like you're a creationist. You cannot fathom the process of evolution so you just insert God into your belief system to compensate. SMHtbhfamalam
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>>59154782

What about ancient aliens? Does he expand minds so wide that they can comperhand those ideas as well?
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>>59151091
>Windows
Found your problem
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I swear every post in this thread that has an empty line between the quote and the text is made by the same person.
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>>59154829
I think people have a right to know who you're getting your facts from.
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>>59154854
What the fuck
So only one guy has been arguing with me all the time
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>>59154854

You are already us, anon. Your mind is not expanded enough yet.
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>>59154871

Another human being that has interests and digressions in day to day interaction with other human beings? I fail to see your point, if there is any.
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>>59154158
NSA? CIA? FBI? ICE? Say it cunt, there are so many people in each agency nobody could find you for just saying that
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>>59151091
>>59151247
>shill your OS daily for years
>quote literal Nazi with the "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" thing
>label people who don't use it pedophiles
>no one fucking uses your shitware as a main OS
>even gaymur faggots are using Linux as the host OS
Sucks to suck.

>>59151350
You should be punished to the fullest extent of the law of your land.

>>59151578
Actually it does. Spotlight sends your searches back to Apple.
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>>59154158
>I work in a certain three letter agency
>Microsoft has helped us catch A LOT of Islamic would be terrorists.

Fed. Btw, can I have a job? I love the feds. No homo.
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>>59155021
>>quote literal Nazi with the "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" thing
OP here, I linked to articles that explain how to disable the "spying"
Your reading comprehension is lacking.
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>>59155056
>he thinks he can disable the spying

Oh anon
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>>59155056
>thinks that the placebo app he runs can disable the spying built into the kernel itself
I'm guessing you don't know how a kernel works.
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>>59155069
>line taken from the microsoft services section related to onedrive
>that line has been changed to explicitly mention onedrive shortly after
>the entire privacy statement has since been rewritten and divided into sections so you can tell what actually applies to windows as opposed to their online services
https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement

>>59155116
>official documentation
>placebo app
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>>59155140
>so fucking naive that he thinks Microsoft would tell him how to disable the spying that earns them so much money
Lmao, faggot
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>>59155160
>so fucking stubborn that he thinks that microsoft would fuck over their enterprise users which are regularly paying license fees
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>>59155140
>https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement
>Usage data. We collect data about how you and your device interact with Microsoft and our products. For example, we collect:
>Product use data. We collect data about the features you use, the items you purchase, and the web pages you visit. This data includes your voice and text search queries or commands to Bing, Cortana, and our chat bots.
>Device data. We collect data about your device and the network you use to connect to our products. It includes data about the operating systems and other software installed on your device, including product keys. It also includes IP address, device identifiers (such as the IMEI number for phones), regional and language settings.

This is just from the start of the policy. It is already so egregious I don't need to continue. Trying to defend it is laughable.

Oh yeah and before you ask if I use a smart phone - no I don't. I'm not as stupid as Windows 10 users.
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>>59155140
what does onedrive have to do with my email contents and conversations?
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>>59155183
>he thinks that microsoft would fuck over their enterprise users which are regularly paying license fees
I do, so your argument is invalid. Microsoft is the real world equivalent of Skynet.
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>>59151091
Is the problem that MS told you or the fact that they are doing the same thing Apple,Google, your CC company, banks and insurance co's do?
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>>59155140
>official documentation
>of the telemetry which could be literally hidden anywhere in the compiled files
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I can't wait for Microsoft to introduce monthly charges and watch both the spergs and apologists go at it. kek, windows users.
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>>59155259
>pay money or your computer won't boot

HAHAHAHAHAH
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>>59155259
Droves of people will switch to GNU/Linux. Within a year Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, and OpenSUSE will be household names.
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>>59155259
I like it how if you torrent it, this doesn't affect you
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>>59151091

i don't even think you understand what telemetry is if you can't use a word other than 'meme'.
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>>59155303
people don't know that linux exists. They don't even know how their computer works or what windows is
When the $300 walmart laptop breaks, they just buy a new one
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>>59155259

You know that said sub was introduced quite time ago as alternative option for companies instead of buying?
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>>59155330
>When the $300 walmart laptop breaks, they just buy a new one
and the complain how shit windows is and how much better their $2,000 macbook is.
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>>59155340
>he can't imagine that microsoft could expand it to home users
>even though the possibility is literally in the text
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>>59155210
People are usually quoting that line because it mentions "files in private folders" and they assume it's files from your own computer.
If law enforcement asks Microsoft to share contents of anything they are hosting for you, including emails, conversations and files, of course they are going to comply.

>>59155207
You quoted the part that refers to the entire document as a whole. All of that either doesn't apply to windows but to some of their services or is something you can disable by following the docs.

>>59155220
I guess we can do nothing but wait and see if they'll actually do that then.

>>59155258
I bet you're one of those people who compile and read all of the source code for the programs they are using.
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>>59155355

I know you dont like MS but try to think clearly for a while.
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>>59155379
That article is at least 1 year old now. It mentions "for now".
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>>59155314
No retard, once you install it you'll have to activate it with a key/pay the subscription, or be forced to infect your system with SuperWin10ChinkLoader9000.exe

>>59155330
>laptops ship with ubuntu
>normie sees that one costs 7 dollary doos a month
>the other one is free
Which one are they going to buy?

>>59155363
>I guess we can do nothing but wait and see if they'll actually do that then.
Do what? They're already evil and buttfucking all users.
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>>59155363
>People are usually quoting that line because it mentions "files in private folders" and they assume it's files from your own computer.
Well that doesn't answer my question as to the EULA specifically saying my email contents, contacts and conversations
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>>59155363
>I bet you're one of those people who compile and read all of the source code for the programs they are using.
Not an argument. While you can't read the M source, you are able to read the linux one
>>59155398
>implying normies realize that it will cost a monthly fee
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>>59155398
>No retard, once you install it you'll have to activate it with a key/pay the subscription, or be forced to infect your system with SuperWin10ChinkLoader9000.exe
Oh wow a fucking securom bullshit product key we've been getting by for years
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>>59155412
>Well that doesn't answer my question
But the next line does. If you're sending cp using hotmail they will give it over to the feds. I don't see a problem with that.
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>>59155442
No it doesn't You said the line in the EULA only pertains to OneDrive but the line specifically says EMAIL

and I asked what does Onedrive exclusivity have to do with my email as a statement to how are you correct in that supposedly only being apart of ONEDRIVE
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>>59155469
Onedrive has nothing to do with your email.
Onedrive has everything to do with "files in private folders"
When they say email they mean hotmail, not email you send using other services, check the updated statement.
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>>59155430
>>implying normies realize that it will cost a monthly fee
They bitch about Netflix upping the prices, they'll notice this for sure.

>>59155433
>securom
You're confirmed for tech illiterate.

>we've been getting by for years
With shady third party activator applications that you'll now have to run once a month, or however often MS decides you need to pay. Also there is no "we" here, only you're getting cucked.
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>>59155529
>they'll notice this for sure.
Sure, when they already have bought the laptop and are setting it up at home.
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This just makes me never want to update my copy of win 10. people say that you can't turn off updates, but I haven't turned mine on in about 2 months.
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>>59155545
>word gets around that you have to pay for it
>all of the normies start returning laptops or installing Ubuntu
The subscription based thing is not going to work.
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>>59155504
>When they say email they mean hotmail, not email you send using other services, check the updated statement.
So not Outlook?
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>>59155607
Not outlook if you mean the program.
Just the things you yourself decided to put on their servers.
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>>59155529
>With shady third party activator applications that you'll now have to run once a month,
>pay a sub!
>double click.exe
>sub paid!

wow a single double click once a month to save 84 dollars a uear is great!

Hows their shit gonna be enforced if I never connect a server to the internet? Like a private server that never does anything but act as a NAS
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>>59155529
Oh man are you saying I'm gonna have to double click once a month to avoid a 7 dollar charge? jeeze with THAT much work into double clicking a bypass I might have to consider the 7 dollars
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wtf I hate windows now
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wtf i love windows now
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>>59155628
You'll be forced to connect to the internet as part of the setup, sort of like how iPhones won't allow you to get through setup without activating on a cellular network.
>using windows for a server
ISHYDDT

>>59155661
>I'm ok with having malware
Typical Windows user.
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This thread is gold for watching people rationalize their (shaky) belief system.

You have masses of evidence by Microsoft's own Privacy Statements saying they will snoop on this and snoop at that, yet here we have Microsoft apologists arguing everyone else is wrong, or, something Microsoft said doesn't apply to [x].

It just goes to show that the more you try to persuade the 'faithful', the more they double down on their belief system. Incredible.

PS. I'm betting one of the Microsoft Avengers uses a tu quoque fallacy as a reply.
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>>59156026
Hi I use windows because I like gamz and it just werks.

I am somewhat willing to accept that I'm prone to being watched, I don't really have anything to hide.

At the same time, do you have any suggestions how to make windows a more private environment?
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>>59156051
>At the same time, do you have any suggestions how to make windows a more private environment?

Yes. Run it in a virtual machine without network access.
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>>59156026
It puts the genuine and legally purchased product key in the basket.
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>>59156064
How then, would one play online games?
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>>59156064
>>59156110
sorry for double post.
But to add to this... What kind of performance drops would I see from running windows in a VM?
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Poo in the loo mang
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>>59156124
Depends on what you're doing in the VM. If you give the VM at least two cores, 8-10GB of RAM, and do a GPU passthrough (this means the iGPU runs the host OS and the dedicated one play the games), then you should be ok with most games on medium settings. Again, this really depends on how good or bad your hardware is.
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>>59156124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI
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>>59156180
interesting. I'm a complete shittard at linux. Used guides and like 4 hours of my time to turn my raspberry pi with rasbian into a kodi box. Sounds like a fun project though. bookmarkd the vid for future project idea.
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>>59156275
Good luck anon.
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itt: more excuses from india for a product nobody asked for

>Just apply the registry edit it modifies W
>Just download this patch it disables X
>Just configure this group policy it fixes Y
>Just disable these settings it stops Z

>"I do not have time to configure my computer for hours anon, I have a life and werk to do anon" :^)
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>>59156462
>Not noticing the "Just run this shady tool" post spammed in every windows thread for weeks
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>>59151247
This.

Unless you live in a tyrannical country, there's nothing you need to worry about.
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>>59156584
Yeah. if you're a good normie, not an autist on an imageboard.
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>>59156503
a few years ago the same people would've been saying
>just run this shady iso to install windows
>just download DazLoader from this rapidshare to activate it
windows 10 just attracted more pirates and BRs now who will tolerate this garbage because it's free
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>>59156026
>You have masses of evidence by Microsoft's own Privacy Statements saying they will snoop on this and snoop at that
Mostly applies to your microsoft account activity, e.g. e-mail, onedrive, skype etc.
The privacy statement will be pretty much the same for any other similar service.

>yet here we have Microsoft apologists arguing everyone else is wrong, or, something Microsoft said doesn't apply to [x].
Because people keep taking random lines from the privacy statement out of context.
People will see that windows can optionally send back data about how you use the word prediction functionality in the on-screen keyboard and say that windows has a keylogger.
When microsoft mentions that they will share your emails (hotmail) and files (onedrive) with law enforcement, people assume that windows will upload files from their harddrive.

And then there are people who keep spamming some variation of "b-but windows 10 does x too and even though you can disable i-it's not actually disabled!"
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>>59151091
>links from microsoft
Well if they say their os is fine it must be true right? :^)
Seriously, OP, it's time to give up. I'm not even against telemetry but a serious OS should have the option to opt-out.
All this commercial telemetry and advertising ID's are just bullshit that belong in a shady freeware app you download from google playstore. Windows 10 is supposed to be a serious OS. People pay a lot of money for it. They are good customers who may expect good service. Not to spend hours disabling ads and memory consuming telemetry to avoid being used. It's like selling a house but refusing to leave and following the buyers around the house trying to sell them a fridge for the rest of their life.
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All these goddamn nigger Indians shilling for microsoft. When is trump going to ban them from the internet with a big beautiful firewall.
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>>59158331
>thread literally about options to opt-out
>serious OS should have the option to opt-out.
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>>59151091
Pajeet please
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>>59158361
But you can't opt-out, Anon. And some of the things you can opt-out on litterally turn themselfs on again. If you quit talking about how awesome the fridge is after people ask it 24 times but still follow them around the house silently you're still trying to sell your fridge.
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>>59158453
>But you can't opt-out, Anon. And some of the things you can opt-out on litterally turn themselfs on again.

>give someone instructions on how to do _something_
>but anon you can't do _something_
>but anon if you did _something_ it would be magically undone

It's impossible to reason with people like you.
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>>59158471
>magically
Windows defender reenables itself again after a time even if you dont want it to
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>>59158484
How does it feel to be technologically inept?
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>>59158471
>shows how some things can be turned off
>thinks everything is turned off
have you ever read anything else about this than the microsoft "how to make us spy a little less" page?
And like i said, they made it really hard even to do that. I don't want to have to call the cops to avoid having to buy a fridge. I allready payed for the house.
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>>59158535
fun fact: i made the image that appears when you google image search "windows 10 botnet"
I probably prevented millions of windows 10 botnet installs
I'm also OP of one of the other threads about botnet 10
How does THIS make you feel, pajeet?
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>>59158556
>How does THIS make you feel, pajeet?
Makes me feel glad that someone compiled all the settings into a single image. Infographics generally seem a lot more approachable to the masses.
Personally I find using the group policy editor a lot easier than wading through the settings app but you do you.

>>59158555
>b-but there's this other thing that really can't be turned off i swear!!!!
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>>59158614
Yeah, the group policy editor is so intuitively to use when compared to the settings app/control panel
Oh wait

Anyway you seem a bit shaken.
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>>59158639
>Yeah, the group policy editor is so intuitively to use when compared to the settings app/control panel
It's organized better.
It's searchable.
The options are very well documented (makes it even easier to search).
It has options that are not available in settings/control panel.

>Oh wait
You were saying?
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>>59158614
>out of arguments
>uses the "greentext other anon as if he's a kid"-methode
I really hope you're just succesfully trolling me cus this is just too pathetic
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>>59158704
I am sorry but since your post contained no actual arguments all I could do is rephrase it hoping that you would understand how silly it sounds.
There's really not much I can do if you believe that disabling some settings isn't actually disabling it.
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Remember that """bug""" which reset the privacy settings?
People really fell for that
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Why does everyone keep saying that you can't disable automatic updates? I just went directly to services and disabled it from there, and it's yet to turn back on.

Does microsoft turn it on, then turn it off again without me knowing?
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>>59158860
The point is that the average user has not turned it off
Of course we won't have a large problem even if they really upgrade home users to "cloud" because we actually know how to use our computers. But the average person won't be able to reinstall another windows version
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>>59158897

Ah. So it's a normie problem. It sucks, but hopefully they get their crap together. The steam fanbase actively revolted against Valve with their paid mods, I just hope MS's supporters are willing to do the same.
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>>59158911
It will affect even us if all the software is only available from the shitty windows store and is only compatible with win10
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>>59158860

Wouldn't be surprised if the service re-enabled itself in a few days
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>>59158974
shhhh, it that is just a bug :^)
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What are my options as a gamer? I'm still on 7 because I like my privacy.

Install Linux and fuck around (possibly forever) to get vt-d working on a virtual machine?

Install Windows 10, VM Linux and use windows for nothing but gaming?

Install Windows 10 and firewall literally everything I don't need?

The fact that all the next gen CPUs wont work on 7 has me perturbed.
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>people arguing about being compromised here and disable telemetry while using hardware not supported by libreboot/coreboot
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>>59158781
(((bug)))
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>>59159093
If this shit really lands, more companies might move gaming to linux
Because they are threatened by microsoft and don't want to pay 30% revenue for every fucking sale through their store

A "gaming" distro like steamOS but for desktops, too would be great
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>>59159093
Win7
macOS + Win7 in Parallels
Win10 LTSB
macOS + Win10LTSB in Parallels
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>>59159095
All of my hardware is supported by Libreboot or Coreboot and I've used ME Cleaner to disable the Intel Management Engine.
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>>59159093
I use linux simply because I like it more, the fact there's already 3000+ games already is just a plus for me. However the fact is that the bigger the linux marketshare is it will be harder for game developers to ignore it, they'll be obligated to both support it and optimize their games for it same as Windows. If you are worried about what Microsoft may do you should give linux a change and support the developers who support your it. At the end Microsoft keeps locked a lot of people in their products using anti competitive tactics rather than making better products and keeping happy their customers. Companies affected by Microsoft tactics are already starting to bet for common open technologies, you can help to accelerate the process and earn a future where no company can push bullshit on you.
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>>59151350
I guess since the hashes of said photos are linked to legal sources, you won't have any trouble. "Just another doctor."
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>>59154469
I don't like, for example, the Metro style UAC dialog in LTSB 2016. 2015 has one like Win7.
But then, I'm a fag who skins Win10 to make it look like Seven.
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>>59156026
You only use Windows virtualized for legacy software. Even as you main OS for work, say with AutoCAD, Adobe, and friends, you should maintain it with the WSUS Offline Update, disconnected from the network, and running virtualized. The penalty for this is small, say, 4GB, one ir two cores and maybe 5% of speed loss.

Several things can be done to minimize speed loss. Fast scratch disks for some software are good. Abuse SSDs. Always get 64GiB of RAM. If you can afford it, server boards with more memory and/or as many HyperDrive 5 units as you can buy. Here more cores will shine.

For games, you can use passthrough with a dedicated video card or cards.

A host level firewall will enable you to block all annoyances inside the Windows guest.

If you use a FreeBSD host, you can have the added benefit of ZFS for data storage. Use it on Windows as shared folders.

And keep your personal data out of Windows.
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>>59159124
Some OpenGL extensions arw proprietary and they cannot be implemented in free as in freedom drivers, only in free as in beer ones. Just a small problem, but still.

And last time I checked, Linux does not support bandwidth control by process, like Windows. So, Internet access control in a Linux system, if everyone migrates to it, will tend to be worse.
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>>59159234
I have enough games for life with a NES emulator.

And then there is the Super Nintendo. WinUAE seems to work properly on Wine. What else would I need?
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>>59159093
>Install Linux and fuck around (possibly forever) to get vt-d working on a virtual machine?
Yes. Virtualization will hide the newer chipsets from Windows 7, thus allowing you to keep using it until update support ends.
However, some new games will require capabilities enabled only by the latest DirectX, a problem that will get worse over time. You can't escape Skynet for gaming, so, virtualize it.
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>>59162093
The "new chipsets wont get any windows updates" thing was pure FUD anyway.
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>>59158556

So you prevented millions of idiots who cant think for themselves from installing certain OS.

As Windows user, I consider it good - less idiots among userbase, less complains about things they dont understand.
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>>59161999
It's not like it would only contain open source software
The important thing would be that the system won't be in hands of a shitty corporation
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>>59162143
Have fun with your spying OS.
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>>59151091
poo into some loo, ramesh
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>>59151091
>he thinks telemetry is the only problem W10 has
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>>59151091
>https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/manage/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization
i can install Gentoo 5 times before I go through all those setting
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>>59162162

Have fun with your paranoia.

I would suggest trying to cure it tho.
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>>59151247
Not entirely true: It only analyses images that you upload to/through their services (onedrive, outlook) which you have to do by your own choice.

Fun fact: MS came up with the photoDNA software and it is also used by all google services, twitter, facebook, etc because it's useful for hunting out pedos/lincucks.
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>>59158535

>only available in Enterprise
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>>59162385
>paranoia
>even though they literally are stating what data they collect

You can't be this deluded
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>>59162511

Yes, paranoia because they state what kind of data they are collecting, why and why you shouldnt worry about it.

Yet, /g/ sperg about that ANY data is being collected or even sent. Worse, I frequently hear about how I shouldnt believe ANYTHING they say because /g/ dogma states that every corporate product is evil, because its not open source.

It IS paranoia. Or Asperger. Or both.
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>>59162866
>you shouldnt worry about it.
So you don't worry about it because they told you not to.
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>>59162409
That specific setting is also available in Pro.
But some others are Enterprise only, so I would not recommend using Pro.
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>>59151424
happens all the time..
does that mean that every update is a mistake?
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>>59161925
Debian host here.
You can compile ZFS 0.7 RC3 as a kmod and get the latest checksums/ performance on Linux.
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>>59162883

I dont worry because I checked what they collect and how they use it, instead of riding on /g/ memes and believing that everytime something connect with outside word it MUST be for user harm.

People suffering from paranoia, however, wont accept any explanations, instead trying to find "hidden motives" in everything and assuming that everybody around only wants their harm. Nothing to laugh about.
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What do they mean by this /g/?

http://slated.org/windows_by_stealth_the_updates_you_dont_want
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>>59163029
>10 years ago
what the fuck
Another great example that MS does everything they can get away with
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>>59151091
>t-there is nothing in there despite proof days after windows 10 release, check our website microsoftware dot com, NSAkey doesn't do anything either you can't prove it :^)
bitch pls.
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baka desu senpai
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>>59163438
>being retarded
The post isn't saying that there's nothing there, it's saying how it can be disabled.
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>>59162966
Is there still a separate Debian for kFreeBSD?
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>>59156462
>>59158331
>>59158984
>>59163438
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>59164483
How can you be sure that you've disabled every part?
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>>59165769
I am about as sure about that as I am sure about there being no backdoor in the kernel image I get from canonical for my ubuntu server.
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>>59165809
If you can't trust compiled binaries, then compile them yourself.
You cannot do that with windows. This argument make no sense.
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>>59165829
I am saying that I do trust the compiled binaries. Microsoft isn't hiding telemetry (from enterprise users at least).
That would be retarded because it's easily detected.
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>>59165851
>That would be retarded because it's easily detected.
How so? Have you checked all the compiled windows components by reverse engineering the bytecode?
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>>59165862
I don't need to reverse engineer anything to monitor network traffic.
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>>59151247
You have no idea what the word 'literally' means.
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>>59154537
>>59156584
>democracies should keep dictators' tools lying around
Go away CIA.
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>>59165878
And when you see some encrypted data being sent, what do you do?
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>>59165904
>when you see some encrypted data being sent
I don't.
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>>59165909
Are you telling me that windows doesn't send ANYTHING encrypted when you think that you have turned off telemetry?
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>>59165880
You're literally a faggot and a retard.
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>>59165923
Here's a complete list of things my installation of Windows does automatically and involves network:
- Checks internet connectivity using http://www.msftconnecttest.com/connecttest.txt when I connect to a network
- Updates the certificate list
- Downloads updates and installs them if they don't require a restart
- Downloads drivers and any related files when I plug in a new device
- Periodically synchronizes the system clock

I could disable all of that if I wanted to.
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>>59166011
What if windows update is used to transmit the telemetry?
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>>59166018
Depends on what you call telemetry. Telemetry about the update process, failed updates and similar is governed by the global telemetry level setting.
It's still sending data required for the actual update process such as your version of Windows.
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