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So /g/ here is what we know about ryzen so far
1) It can/will match or exceed a 6900 at stock
2) we have one benchmark that was rushed as fuck and seemingly made before the press conference and they thought nda lifted that day so they posted it, it gave an interesting look at gta5
3) we got a second benchmark that had gta5 ingame with ryzen beating it
4) everyone who has the chip in hands are talking about how this is the end for manual overclocking
5) ryzen master, apparently an oc tool lets you oc per core, or disable up to 6 cores entirely.
6) there may be an issue with ram at launch, but due to my knowledge the way the info was presented, and the hyperbole of tech sites, /g/ included doesnt allow me to confirm how bit an issue or how far reaching it is
Basically so far, we know nothing but interesting shit keeps getting posted.
Looking at xfr, here is what we know, it self overclocks and has something along the lines of 20-30 sensors per cpu core to help this
Gta5 benchmark showed lower min and max frame rate but near equal average, which again is interesting, makes it seem that the 7700k at 5ghz has an average higher bounce from max to minimum and stays lower longer then amd
The ingame bench mark that claimed to be a 1700x showed 100+ fps as an average for in game.
Now here is some conjecture, that first review did not oc or really even test at all, knowing there is an oc tool along with xfr, we can assume that was base, the second one is showing us what most people who have it and are under nda are alluding to which likely had xfr or the oc tool.
So going off that, what if xfr sees the load, and clocks up the cores you use, and down clocks the ones you aren't as needed?
Possibly, you set up a profile for games/programs where you tell it how many cores this thing uses, and it shuts the unused off when that is in the foreground, again, with xfr, overclocking the 2-6 cores still in use higher then 8 core?
This honestly seems like how it works best of both worlds
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OP is not a faggot
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That's a pretty solid rundown.
About the only thing I would add is Ryzen looks like its going to be quite picky about latency/memory timings, possibly more so than bandwidth. This is also mostly speculation though, we mostly see leaks with absolute shit speed and timings (2133, CAS 16+ is most commonly spotted).
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>we got a second benchmark that had gta5 ingame with ryzen beating it
lol sure
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That benchmark is completely up in the air but is at least within the realm of reality IF what I said in op is true, it assumes these
1) xfr is actually really good
2) cutting cores is easy, no restart required, or even just all done for you
3) if amd is as low a tdp as it says, possibly more efficient than kaby, and in this scenario, also soldered, that gives it a fuck load more headroom for the oc on fewer cores than kaby lake, as it has 6 processors worth of turned off heat sync, along with a soldered lid.
and just as a fourth possibility, there is a chance that it has higher ipc then kaby, this is yet to be proven as no official bench came out that downclocked an i7 to ryzen levels, ,my guess is this, ryzen is about equal, but potentially ocs better on average due to needing to delid a kaby for 5+ oc.
The benchmark that showed ryzen being bad, used the in game benchmark, which as many of us can attest, is not real game performance.
We at the very least have something interesting coming to us soon.
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that was point 6, I have no real insight to that at all as my understandings about the issues are hindered by not understanding the way it was presented, and everyone who may not either calling it a non issue, or amd's dead.
If the ram issue is real, It makes my choice for me, ill get 32gb of shit ram for cheaper, and down the road when ram prices go down, ill get better and possibly 64gb for about the same price I mean even on that absolute dog shit ram, Its still several times better then my pc with the only possible issue being the latency.
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